Opinion on Planned Parenthood?

[Norky]

For US-cels, should Planned Parenthood be defunded?

On the one hand, if you're an antinatalist, not defunding Planned Parenthood means femoids can go to a clinic and receive a subsidized abortion, killing off potential incels.

On the other hand, it also means that femoids are encouraged to continue fucking freely with disregard for any consequences because big daddy govt. will provide birth control and abortions.

Thoughts?

 

[StormlitAqua]

I don’t care what they’re doing but they should not get be getting a cent of government money.

Only in America we kill the unborn to make ends meet.

 

[Gardencel]

I know planned parenthood is very heavily associated with abortion, but they do a lot more than that. Planned Parenthood is really important to a lot of people who are low income. They offer a lot of services to people who need it, like checkups and shots. Doctor visits are really expensive in the US and a lot of people avoid going to see a medical professional because of the bills.

Not saying I agree or disagree with abortion, but I feel like a lot of people just assume anyone going to planned parenthood is a irresponsible sex addicted femoid who wants to get their unborn child murdered. Hell I don't even think every planned parenthood clinic offers abortion.

 

[Deleted member 5861]

Pro
- Kills humans like nothing else

Con
- Promotes degeneracy to a higher degree than alot of things

I don't what to think of them

 

[TheNEET]

abortion should be outlawed asap (with exceptions like danger to the mother's health and fatal deformities/disorders of the foetus; abortion in case of rape can also be permitable, but it's a more complex ethical issue)

 

[KvltWarrior98]

Abortion should be illegal except for specific circumstances. It only promotes degenerate behaviour.

If you fuck outside of marriage, you should not be allowed to receive the right to abort the child; that wouldn't mean that a degenerate like you will raise that child, kiss him/her goodbye for the state will take the baby form you and give it to a loving, traditional family.

 

[Deleted member 5712]

PP is a double edged sword. There are definitely pros and cons but overall I feel they hurt more than they help.
A lot of people point out that they help low income families. While this is true why should we care? If men are not entitled to sex or love I fail to see how people are entitled to wellness checks. If we created our own problems then so did they. Fuck them. Maybe they shouldn't be poor.

 

[Zamasu]

I don't believe there is anything wrong with abortion per se, but the problem is the message it bears.
Abortion, even more than contraceptions, perpetuate the idea sex is an act without consequences, it encourages people to go and whore themselves out.
Sex isn't meant to be like this: it is psychologically embedded to be a spiritual act of expressing trust into your partner of which the final outcome would of course be a child.
In a moderate and functional society, where people would not think about having intercourses left and right, abortion would be a rare act to prevent children who would overpopulate the world, and wouldn't live a good life since their parents couldn't afford them, however in these times it should be abolished to educate the population on having responsible and healthy sentimental and sexual lives.

Not to mention how much resources get wasted due to these people irresponsibility

 

[i_a_m_i]

Abortion is a good thing. All low-income women should have free access to abortion; it would improve society.

 

[Cuckservative]

Abortion is plain unethical and just encourages promiscuous behavior. It's perhaps one of the reasons that people aren't settling down and having babies. They can just fornicate freely and have an abortion if they make a mistake. So basically abortion is encouraging degeneracy and is one of the many rungs that has killed traditional families.

Abortion is a good thing. All low-income women should have free access to abortion; it would improve society.

Less single Mothers might actually be a good thing.

 

[i_a_m_i]

Abortion is plain unethical and just encourages promiscuous behavior. It's perhaps one of the reasons that people aren't settling down and having babies. They can just fornicate freely and have an abortion if they make a mistake. So basically abortion is encouraging degeneracy and is one of the many rungs that has killed traditional families.



Less single Mothers might actually be a good thing.

Abortion is anti-degeneracy. It encourages degenerate women to have fewer children. Degeneracy, irresponsibility, etc., are related to intelligence, which is highly heritable. Would a smart, responsible women ever have the need for an abortion, except in the case of rape? No.
If abortion were banned I don't imagine the fertility of responsible women would change much- they would be more proactive in using birth control, or maybe they would get an implant instead of relying on pills. Irresponsible women would go on being whores as usual and get pregnant - the only difference being that they have no legal way to curtail their own fertility, resulting in the creation of the next generation of irresponsible degenerates.

 

[Cuckservative]

Abortion is anti-degeneracy. It encourages degenerate women to have fewer children. Degeneracy, irresponsibility, etc., are related to intelligence, which is highly heritable. Would a smart, responsible women ever have the need for an abortion, except in the case of rape? No.
If abortion were banned I don't imagine the fertility of responsible women would change much- they would be more proactive in using birth control, or maybe they would get an implant instead of relying on pills. Irresponsible women would go on being whores as usual and get pregnant - the only difference being that they have no legal way to curtail their own fertility, resulting in the creation of the next generation of irresponsible degenerates.

Responsibility is one of the key issues here. I have thought about sterilisation of lower iq individuals in order to increase the iq rate in society. Because iq has a genetic first cause. Abortion used in this manner might actually have the same sort of effect. So all the degenerates can have abortions and their low iq babies are out of the gene pool. While all the smart and educated people are having babies in a responsible manner.

 

[i_a_m_i]

So all the degenerates can have abortions and their low iq babies are out of the gene pool. While all the smart and educated people are having babies in a responsible manner.

That is pretty much my argument for abortion. In the current society, intelligent and educated people generally do not need abortions, because they are responsible enough not to get knocked up. The opposite is true for unintelligent, uneducated women.

My argument for planned parenthood is that generally smart and educated women have health insurance and easy access to abortion should they need it, whereas less intelligent poor women often don't have health insurance and rely on charity and subsidy for access to abortions, which is why Planned Parenthood is important. Abortion is eugenic, and has the advantage of being politically feasible unlike many other forms of eugenics. In fact, one of the founding members of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, was a eugenicist.

As far as responsibility, I don't think banning abortion would make irresponsible women become responsible; irresponsible women would still make the same mistakes - they would still use birth control improperly, or have casual unprotected sex. The main difference is that, if abortion were banned, in the event of pregnancy, they would have no way of correcting that mistake via abortion.

 

[VisVoi]

It is one of many factors that holds up our hookup culture. Abortion is degenerate, as is promoting promiscuity so that you can get more funding by giving moe abortions (yes, they do this).

 

[Cuckservative]

That is pretty much my argument for abortion. In the current society, intelligent and educated people generally do not need abortions, because they are responsible enough not to get knocked up. The opposite is true for unintelligent, uneducated women.

My argument for planned parenthood is that generally smart and educated women have health insurance and easy access to abortion should they need it, whereas less intelligent poor women often don't have health insurance and rely on charity and subsidy for access to abortions, which is why Planned Parenthood is important. Abortion is eugenic, and has the advantage of being politically feasible unlike many other forms of eugenics. In fact, one of the founding members of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, was a eugenicist.

As far as responsibility, I don't think banning abortion would make irresponsible women become responsible; irresponsible women would still make the same mistakes - they would still use birth control improperly, or have casual unprotected sex. The main difference is that, if abortion were banned, in the event of pregnancy, they would have no way of correcting that mistake via abortion.

From the eugenics angle I can agree with abortion.

 

[superighteous]

abortion should be outlawed asap (with exceptions like danger to the mother's health and fatal deformities/disorders of the foetus; abortion in case of rape can also be permitable, but it's a more complex ethical issue)