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Serious [OPEN-MINDEDCELS ONLY] It's Time We as Incels Discard Antisemitism as a Barbarous Relic

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GoffSystemQB said:
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Very interesting, will check out. I am not saying there isn't any arguments to be made for the other side.
 
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Jews do not have a higher IQ, that is total bullshit. The reason the jews are so successful is because they are very well organized and they will are all loyal to members of their race. Jews put other jews in positions of power, and once they are in they spread like wildfire. And I fully believe there is an organized attempt to make white, european races extinct. Those in authority have a unprecedented amount of control over the people nowadays, and they are the reason why the anti-white narative is so strong nowadays. We have them to blame for pushing the narative for women to be disgusting whores and for men to be weak. They allowed society to become this hypergamous shithole
 
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When it comes to the “Jewish Question” everything becomes so complicated. No wonder! It was made to be so on purpose. The higher the confusion the easier it is for the crook to cheat the victim. Everything is mixed with legends, myts, half-truths, and often with outright lies.

Think about the very term “Antisemitism”. Anti + Semitic. But Semites are a huge group and the biggest semitic ethnic subgroup there are Arabs - just like the Palestinians. But let's focus on the Jews...

The fascist ADL defines Antisemitism as “hating Jews” - as if all jews are Semites and other semtis don't exist. This is in fact a good example of the new slender form of Fascism we see today. It takes possession of hate and claim that “only us” suffer from hate and therefore as victims, we can do EVERYTHING.

By doing this fascism is achieving at least two goals simultaneously:
  1. It can defiant what is hate AND who is hating. It has the power to shame and victims every once it decides in order to achieve its goals. A good example is simply shaming people that they are nazis only if they oppose horrendous crimes of Israel or the support the US gives to Israel.
  2. They hijack a whole little nation. Now if you are a jew and you oppose Zionism you will be shamed into submission and suffer from very harsh consequences. I would say that Jewish people are victims of Zionism.

For more on this please look at what glorious writers like Finkelstein and Chomsky said.

In fact, this is what MENSA doesn't understand. He fails to distinguish between Jews and Zionists. It is as if I would say that all Arabs are Jihadists, or all Germans are nazis. In fact, Zionism contradicts the very basic principles of Judaism and most, if not all, religious jews are either anti or non-zionist.

In addition, the juxtaposition of Zionists and the Third Reich is quite silly. Surprisingly (or not) the Zionists collaborated with the Nazis at some point. Many Zionists were highly sympathetic of the Fascists, for example the Betar movement. Betar was the movement out of which the Likud party was created, the same party Netaniahu is heading and ruling Israel. I am not saying Netaniahu is a nazi but the connections are no trivial as you think.

Needless to say that not all Zionists are Jews and not all Jews are Zionists. Christian (especial British) Zionists were around for a lot of time and we might see Islamic zionist in the future.

Anyways… MENSAS post is a profound case of intellectual masturbation. It is impossible to discuss the “Jewish Question” without referring to Bruno Bauer, Moshe Hess, Marx, Weininger, and the aforementioned Finkelshtein.

But I will write some criticism and I hope MENSA will answer.

The British, as any other colonial power, has prosecuted and brutally repressed everyone in its former colonies. I am not aware of any evidence that the Jewish population in Palestine was more oppressed than for instance the Indians who’s culture and economy was literally ruined by the Brits. In fact, the Zionist criminals and the British imperialists were quite good allies. No surprise! Criminals are gravitating to each other naturally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism_in_the_United_Kingdom

You have not to justify the right of the modern jews for the land of Israel. You cannot leave a land for 2000 years and expect that no one would come and settle there. And then to come back and demand it.

During the 2000 years of living in the diaspora (in Europe, Asia and Africa) Jews mingled and breed with locals (Arabs, Germans, Slavs, Ethiopians) how a genetic link can be established with the Land of Israel? Does a brown-haired green-eyed Russian Jew belong to Russia or to the middle east? Does a black-skinned Ethiopian Jew belong to Africa or to the middle east? These are rhetorical questions the answer to which is simple: they can live anywhere but not to oppress anyone.

As Chomsky said in one of his interviews that Israel is not struggling for its existence, instead it struggles to get a PRIVILEGED status among nations. And Israel’s strive for this privileged status corresponds with the imperialist goals of the USA and its hegemonic aspirations.

It also relates to non-white immigration to the EU. The international capital (concentrated in core countries - EU and US) wants to take control over natural resources that it needs for its production. For that goal, the US and its criminal allies invade peripheral resource-rich countries (Iraq, Libya) and sanction regimes that do not align with the “free trade” agenda of global capital (Russia, Iran, Cuba, North Korea). It allows global capital to take control of resources. At the same time, it ruins the regimes of the invaded countries and makes their population look for a better life and escape the hell that was thrown upon them by global capital. They often, but not always, immigrate to the west. Even here the capitalist and the western bourgeoisie win since they get cheap labor for precarious work and the European worker suffers from decreasing wages and harsher exploitation.

Israel resides in a strategic location and its role in the aforementioned process is pivotal. It is a local policeman of global capital, a powerhouse for weapon development and experimentation. Moreover, it is easy to allow Israel to do crimes no other nation would do otherwise and dismiss the severity of these crimes by recalling the horrors of the Holocaust - which is a horrendous disgrace! All in all, after ww2 Jews are in a leveraged position - they gain a lot but also suffer and are at great risks.

In addition, MENSA forgets to mention the crimes committed on the Palestinian people:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus

That's it for now...

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MENSA_IQcel said:
When Tsar Nicholas II is sending police to your ghettos to brutalize, humiliate, and rob you

Thats some top BS I ever read. Probably your knowledge of real Russian Empire history is poor and mostly fueled by rewritten history.
 
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Are you on uppers man? Only explanation I can think of for your walls of text.
 
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BenBerger said:
When it comes to the “Jewish Question” everything becomes so complicated. No wonder! It was made to be so on purpose. The higher the confusion the easier it is for the crook to cheat the victim. Everything is mixed with legends, myts, half-truths, and often with outright lies.

Think about the very term “Antisemitism”. Anti + Semitic. But Semites are a huge group and the biggest semitic ethnic subgroup there are Arabs - just like the Palestinians. But let's focus on the Jews...

The fascist ADL defines Antisemitism as “hating Jews” - as if all jews are Semites and other semtis don't exist. This is in fact a good example of the new slender form of Fascism we see today. It takes possession of hate and claim that “only us” suffer from hate and therefore as victims, we can do EVERYTHING.

By doing this fascism is achieving at least two goals simultaneously:
  1. It can defiant what is hate AND who is hating. It has the power to shame and victims every once it decides in order to achieve its goals. A good example is simply shaming people that they are nazis only if they oppose horrendous crimes of Israel or the support the US gives to Israel.
  2. They hijack a whole little nation. Now if you are a jew and you oppose Zionism you will be shamed into submission and suffer from very harsh consequences. I would say that Jewish people are victims of Zionism.

For more on this please look at what glorious writers like Finkelstein and Chomsky said.

In fact, this is what MENSA doesn't understand. He fails to distinguish between Jews and Zionists. It is as if I would say that all Arabs are Jihadists, or all Germans are nazis. In fact, Zionism contradicts the very basic principles of Judaism and most, if not all, religious jews are either anti or non-zionist.

In addition, the juxtaposition of Zionists and the Third Reich is quite silly. Surprisingly (or not) the Zionists collaborated with the Nazis at some point. Many Zionists were highly sympathetic of the Fascists, for example the Betar movement. Betar was the movement out of which the Likud party was created, the same party Netaniahu is heading and ruling Israel. I am not saying Netaniahu is a nazi but the connections are no trivial as you think.

Needless to say that not all Zionists are Jews and not all Jews are Zionists. Christian (especial British) Zionists were around for a lot of time and we might see Islamic zionist in the future.

Anyways… MENSAS post is a profound case of intellectual masturbation. It is impossible to discuss the “Jewish Question” without referring to Bruno Bauer, Moshe Hess, Marx, Weininger, and the aforementioned Finkelshtein.

But I will write some criticism and I hope MENSA will answer.

The British, as any other colonial power, has prosecuted and brutally repressed everyone in its former colonies. I am not aware of any evidence that the Jewish population in Palestine was more oppressed than for instance the Indians who’s culture and economy was literally ruined by the Brits. In fact, the Zionist criminals and the British imperialists were quite good allies. No surprise! Criminals are gravitating to each other naturally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism_in_the_United_Kingdom

You have not to justify the right of the modern jews for the land of Israel. You cannot leave a land for 2000 years and expect that no one would come and settle there. And then to come back and demand it.

During the 2000 years of living in the diaspora (in Europe, Asia and Africa) Jews mingled and breed with locals (Arabs, Germans, Slavs, Ethiopians) how a genetic link can be established with the Land of Israel? Does a brown-haired green-eyed Russian Jew belong to Russia or to the middle east? Does a black-skinned Ethiopian Jew belong to Africa or to the middle east? These are rhetorical questions the answer to which is simple: they can live anywhere but not to oppress anyone.

As Chomsky said in one of his interviews that Israel is not struggling for its existence, instead it struggles to get a PRIVILEGED status among nations. And Israel’s strive for this privileged status corresponds with the imperialist goals of the USA and its hegemonic aspirations.

It also relates to non-white immigration to the EU. The international capital (concentrated in core countries - EU and US) wants to take control over natural resources that it needs for its production. For that goal, the US and its criminal allies invade peripheral resource-rich countries (Iraq, Libya) and sanction regimes that do not align with the “free trade” agenda of global capital (Russia, Iran, Cuba, North Korea). It allows global capital to take control of resources. At the same time, it ruins the regimes of the invaded countries and makes their population look for a better life and escape the hell that was thrown upon them by global capital. They often, but not always, immigrate to the west. Even here the capitalist and the western bourgeoisie win since they get cheap labor for precarious work and the European worker suffers from decreasing wages and harsher exploitation.

Israel resides in a strategic location and its role in the aforementioned process is pivotal. It is a local policeman of global capital, a powerhouse for weapon development and experimentation. Moreover, it is easy to allow Israel to do crimes no other nation would do otherwise and dismiss the severity of these crimes by recalling the horrors of the Holocaust - which is a horrendous disgrace! All in all, after ww2 Jews are in a leveraged position - they gain a lot but also suffer and are at great risks.

In addition, MENSA forgets to mention the crimes committed on the Palestinian people:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus

That's it for now...

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High IQ.

Read every letter.
 
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AlarmedSign said:
Jews do not have a higher IQ, that is total bullshit. The reason the jews are so successful is because they are very well organized and they will are all loyal to members of their race. Jews put other jews in positions of power, and once they are in they spread like wildfire. And I fully believe there is an organized attempt to make white, european races extinct. Those in authority have a unprecedented amount of control over the people nowadays, and they are the reason why the anti-white narative is so strong nowadays. We have them to blame for pushing the narative for women to be disgusting whores and for men to be weak. They allowed society to become this hypergamous shithole
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Judaism brought monotheism into the world, and with it the slave morality.

 
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BenBerger said:
When it comes to the “Jewish Question” everything becomes so complicated. No wonder! It was made to be so on purpose. The higher the confusion the easier it is for the crook to cheat the victim. Everything is mixed with legends, myts, half-truths, and often with outright lies.

Think about the very term “Antisemitism”. Anti + Semitic. But Semites are a huge group and the biggest semitic ethnic subgroup there are Arabs - just like the Palestinians. But let's focus on the Jews...

The fascist ADL defines Antisemitism as “hating Jews” - as if all jews are Semites and other semtis don't exist. This is in fact a good example of the new slender form of Fascism we see today. It takes possession of hate and claim that “only us” suffer from hate and therefore as victims, we can do EVERYTHING.

By doing this fascism is achieving at least two goals simultaneously:
  1. It can defiant what is hate AND who is hating. It has the power to shame and victims every once it decides in order to achieve its goals. A good example is simply shaming people that they are nazis only if they oppose horrendous crimes of Israel or the support the US gives to Israel.
  2. They hijack a whole little nation. Now if you are a jew and you oppose Zionism you will be shamed into submission and suffer from very harsh consequences. I would say that Jewish people are victims of Zionism.

For more on this please look at what glorious writers like Finkelstein and Chomsky said.

In fact, this is what MENSA doesn't understand. He fails to distinguish between Jews and Zionists. It is as if I would say that all Arabs are Jihadists, or all Germans are nazis. In fact, Zionism contradicts the very basic principles of Judaism and most, if not all, religious jews are either anti or non-zionist.

In addition, the juxtaposition of Zionists and the Third Reich is quite silly. Surprisingly (or not) the Zionists collaborated with the Nazis at some point. Many Zionists were highly sympathetic of the Fascists, for example the Betar movement. Betar was the movement out of which the Likud party was created, the same party Netaniahu is heading and ruling Israel. I am not saying Netaniahu is a nazi but the connections are no trivial as you think.

Needless to say that not all Zionists are Jews and not all Jews are Zionists. Christian (especial British) Zionists were around for a lot of time and we might see Islamic zionist in the future.

Anyways… MENSAS post is a profound case of intellectual masturbation. It is impossible to discuss the “Jewish Question” without referring to Bruno Bauer, Moshe Hess, Marx, Weininger, and the aforementioned Finkelshtein.

But I will write some criticism and I hope MENSA will answer.

The British, as any other colonial power, has prosecuted and brutally repressed everyone in its former colonies. I am not aware of any evidence that the Jewish population in Palestine was more oppressed than for instance the Indians who’s culture and economy was literally ruined by the Brits. In fact, the Zionist criminals and the British imperialists were quite good allies. No surprise! Criminals are gravitating to each other naturally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism_in_the_United_Kingdom

You have not to justify the right of the modern jews for the land of Israel. You cannot leave a land for 2000 years and expect that no one would come and settle there. And then to come back and demand it.

During the 2000 years of living in the diaspora (in Europe, Asia and Africa) Jews mingled and breed with locals (Arabs, Germans, Slavs, Ethiopians) how a genetic link can be established with the Land of Israel? Does a brown-haired green-eyed Russian Jew belong to Russia or to the middle east? Does a black-skinned Ethiopian Jew belong to Africa or to the middle east? These are rhetorical questions the answer to which is simple: they can live anywhere but not to oppress anyone.

As Chomsky said in one of his interviews that Israel is not struggling for its existence, instead it struggles to get a PRIVILEGED status among nations. And Israel’s strive for this privileged status corresponds with the imperialist goals of the USA and its hegemonic aspirations.

It also relates to non-white immigration to the EU. The international capital (concentrated in core countries - EU and US) wants to take control over natural resources that it needs for its production. For that goal, the US and its criminal allies invade peripheral resource-rich countries (Iraq, Libya) and sanction regimes that do not align with the “free trade” agenda of global capital (Russia, Iran, Cuba, North Korea). It allows global capital to take control of resources. At the same time, it ruins the regimes of the invaded countries and makes their population look for a better life and escape the hell that was thrown upon them by global capital. They often, but not always, immigrate to the west. Even here the capitalist and the western bourgeoisie win since they get cheap labor for precarious work and the European worker suffers from decreasing wages and harsher exploitation.

Israel resides in a strategic location and its role in the aforementioned process is pivotal. It is a local policeman of global capital, a powerhouse for weapon development and experimentation. Moreover, it is easy to allow Israel to do crimes no other nation would do otherwise and dismiss the severity of these crimes by recalling the horrors of the Holocaust - which is a horrendous disgrace! All in all, after ww2 Jews are in a leveraged position - they gain a lot but also suffer and are at great risks.

In addition, MENSA forgets to mention the crimes committed on the Palestinian people:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus

That's it for now...

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High iq. That reminds me of idiots who will call you a misogynist just because you hate whoredom, hypergamy, and feminism. If they believe all foids are hypergamous, feminist whores then they're the misogynists, not us. Even if 1% of foids aren't hypergamous, feminists whores then that would still mean we're not misogynists. Being a misogynist means you hate all foids just for being women, but we only don't like the bad foids, which are most of them these days unfortunately. If that makes us misogynists, then rosties are all misandristss for hating non-chad men, and voting for laws that oppress them.
 
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based_meme said:
The whole Jewish IQ thing is a myth. Their average is 100, just like the general population.

Actually lower. They have no world-class literature for one thing, as a consequence of their ordinary(no true talents) "IQ".

My classes were 80% jews since it was a special school jews used to send their offsprings to to later move overseas(-> USA, Germany, Israel).

I recall they mog me by knowing russian history and russian literature much better(that was kinda funny since they basically have neither much literature or history of their own), while i mog most of them in programming and math+physics.
 
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nothing to add to reply by BenBerger solid post about seperation of jews and Zionists lumping together is insane, and great insight into Jews wanting to have the right to be hegemonic not AGAINST BEING OPPRESSED they ARE AGAINST NOT HAVING HEGEMONY, this is and the constant vitcim mentality of holocaust where they retroactively justify preposterous claims and arguements is why SOME people are anti-jewish in stance
 
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Stalin said:
Thats some top BS I ever read. Probably your knowledge of real Russian Empire history is poor and mostly fueled by rewritten history.

You're an uneducated yahoo, I don't care what you think
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Are you on uppers man? Only explanation I can think of for your walls of text.

Nope, just high IQ
Stalin said:
Actually lower. They have no world-class literature for one thing, as a consequence of their ordinary(no true talents) "IQ".

My classes were 80% jews since it was a special school jews used to send their offsprings to to later move overseas(-> USA, Germany, Israel).

I recall they mog me by knowing russian history and russian literature much better(that was kinda funny since they basically have neither much literature or history of their own), while i mog most of them in programming and math+physics.

Did you say Jews don't have history, WHILE BEING AN NON-JEWISH ETHNIC RUSSIAN? Pure irony.

BenBerger said:
When it comes to the “Jewish Question” everything becomes so complicated. No wonder! It was made to be so on purpose. The higher the confusion the easier it is for the crook to cheat the victim. Everything is mixed with legends, myts, half-truths, and often with outright lies.

Think about the very term “Antisemitism”. Anti + Semitic. But Semites are a huge group and the biggest semitic ethnic subgroup there are Arabs - just like the Palestinians. But let's focus on the Jews...

The fascist ADL defines Antisemitism as “hating Jews” - as if all jews are Semites and other semtis don't exist. This is in fact a good example of the new slender form of Fascism we see today. It takes possession of hate and claim that “only us” suffer from hate and therefore as victims, we can do EVERYTHING.

By doing this fascism is achieving at least two goals simultaneously:
  1. It can defiant what is hate AND who is hating. It has the power to shame and victims every once it decides in order to achieve its goals. A good example is simply shaming people that they are nazis only if they oppose horrendous crimes of Israel or the support the US gives to Israel.
  2. They hijack a whole little nation. Now if you are a jew and you oppose Zionism you will be shamed into submission and suffer from very harsh consequences. I would say that Jewish people are victims of Zionism.

For more on this please look at what glorious writers like Finkelstein and Chomsky said.

In fact, this is what MENSA doesn't understand. He fails to distinguish between Jews and Zionists. It is as if I would say that all Arabs are Jihadists, or all Germans are nazis. In fact, Zionism contradicts the very basic principles of Judaism and most, if not all, religious jews are either anti or non-zionist.

In addition, the juxtaposition of Zionists and the Third Reich is quite silly. Surprisingly (or not) the Zionists collaborated with the Nazis at some point. Many Zionists were highly sympathetic of the Fascists, for example the Betar movement. Betar was the movement out of which the Likud party was created, the same party Netaniahu is heading and ruling Israel. I am not saying Netaniahu is a nazi but the connections are no trivial as you think.

Needless to say that not all Zionists are Jews and not all Jews are Zionists. Christian (especial British) Zionists were around for a lot of time and we might see Islamic zionist in the future.

Anyways… MENSAS post is a profound case of intellectual masturbation. It is impossible to discuss the “Jewish Question” without referring to Bruno Bauer, Moshe Hess, Marx, Weininger, and the aforementioned Finkelshtein.

But I will write some criticism and I hope MENSA will answer.

The British, as any other colonial power, has prosecuted and brutally repressed everyone in its former colonies. I am not aware of any evidence that the Jewish population in Palestine was more oppressed than for instance the Indians who’s culture and economy was literally ruined by the Brits. In fact, the Zionist criminals and the British imperialists were quite good allies. No surprise! Criminals are gravitating to each other naturally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism_in_the_United_Kingdom

You have not to justify the right of the modern jews for the land of Israel. You cannot leave a land for 2000 years and expect that no one would come and settle there. And then to come back and demand it.

During the 2000 years of living in the diaspora (in Europe, Asia and Africa) Jews mingled and breed with locals (Arabs, Germans, Slavs, Ethiopians) how a genetic link can be established with the Land of Israel? Does a brown-haired green-eyed Russian Jew belong to Russia or to the middle east? Does a black-skinned Ethiopian Jew belong to Africa or to the middle east? These are rhetorical questions the answer to which is simple: they can live anywhere but not to oppress anyone.

As Chomsky said in one of his interviews that Israel is not struggling for its existence, instead it struggles to get a PRIVILEGED status among nations. And Israel’s strive for this privileged status corresponds with the imperialist goals of the USA and its hegemonic aspirations.

It also relates to non-white immigration to the EU. The international capital (concentrated in core countries - EU and US) wants to take control over natural resources that it needs for its production. For that goal, the US and its criminal allies invade peripheral resource-rich countries (Iraq, Libya) and sanction regimes that do not align with the “free trade” agenda of global capital (Russia, Iran, Cuba, North Korea). It allows global capital to take control of resources. At the same time, it ruins the regimes of the invaded countries and makes their population look for a better life and escape the hell that was thrown upon them by global capital. They often, but not always, immigrate to the west. Even here the capitalist and the western bourgeoisie win since they get cheap labor for precarious work and the European worker suffers from decreasing wages and harsher exploitation.

Israel resides in a strategic location and its role in the aforementioned process is pivotal. It is a local policeman of global capital, a powerhouse for weapon development and experimentation. Moreover, it is easy to allow Israel to do crimes no other nation would do otherwise and dismiss the severity of these crimes by recalling the horrors of the Holocaust - which is a horrendous disgrace! All in all, after ww2 Jews are in a leveraged position - they gain a lot but also suffer and are at great risks.

In addition, MENSA forgets to mention the crimes committed on the Palestinian people:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus

That's it for now...

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I don't think we are in too much disagreement Ben. I agree with you that the zionists have been given a privileged position on the world stage, particularly by the American hegemonic powers. Israel has been fighting for more privilege on the world stage and arguably acting as an imperialist power in the middle east. My point was that this is in no regards evidence of the Jewish question. The state of Israel and the Zionist movement is being used as a proxy by the American powers. Of course American proxies are going to get better treatment than the enemies they are fighting against, but this in no way indicates Jews have control of anything. This is why I bring up the case of Liberia. Liberia was the Israel of Africa in the late 1800s, but no one in their right mind would use it as evidence for the "African Question".

I also do not believe that the reason for Western military intervention into these weaker countries is to increase immigration to the West. Yes they want to open up these economies and allow international capital to control their economies, but mass immigration from these countries is merely a consequence of this. Typically those who are most in favor of mass migration are the same ones to oppose Western conflicts in these countries. The main objective of these military interventions is 1) To further the advancement of Western civilization through geopolitical advances, 2) To extract resources, 3) Establish a central bank with ties to the international monetary system, and 4) Spread Western political systems and culture in the hopes that these nations will eventually side with the West in international diplomacy.
 
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MENSA_IQcel said:
You're an uneducated yahoo, I don't care what you think

Could you please ref some good books as a source then? I've read a lot of russian literature once to kill time and specifically about the period of N2 ruling and never encountered the facts of jews mass suppression during that(N2) period.
 
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Could you please ref some good books as a source then? I've read a lot of russian literature once to kill time and specifically about the period of N2 ruling and never encountered the facts of jews mass suppression during that(N2) period.

Tradegy and Hope by Carroll Quigley discusses this. Chapter 2.
 
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MENSA_IQcel said:
Jews have held notable positions behind Liberal and Communist agenda's, but please consider that Jews were driven to these ideologies as a refuge from Tsarist

Are you lying or actually think so? Jews were imported(mainly from Germany & England) into Russian Empire as a Revolution's driving force, many of them did not even speak local language well or at all .. what refuge you are talking about JFL.

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Did you say Jews don't have history, WHILE BEING AN NON-JEWISH ETHNIC RUSSIAN? Pure irony.

I mean they did not have that much(significant) history compared to other nations. They did not even own land. But thanks to Stalin now they have some.

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Tradegy and Hope by Carroll Quigley discusses this. Chapter 2.

Thanks, but i'am not reading historical agents/propagandists..
 
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Stalin said:
Are you lying or actually think so? Jews were imported(mainly from Germany & England) into Russian Empire as a Revolution's driving force, many of them did not even speak local language well or at all .. what refuge you are talking about JFL.



I mean they did not have that much history compared to others nations. They did not even own land. But thanks to Stalin now they have some.

1. I do really think this. Vladmir Lenin was an ethnic Jew, Trotsky was a Jew, Barium was a Jew. These were all Native Russians and they were three examples of the prominent leaders. Many Jews immigrated to USSR after the communists took over because it was the only place they could exercise political and intellectual contro away from the grips of antisemitism.

2. Rabbionic Talmudism has a major intellectual and philosophical history. The history of Jewish communities in Europe is just as rich and vast as anywhere, especially when looking at their interactions with host countries.

3. You won't learn anything if you don't read anything.
 
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MENSA_IQcel said:
Vladmir Lenin was an ethnic Jew, Trotsky was a Jew, Barium was a Jew.

Lenin was a half-Jew...

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Many Jews immigrated to USSR after the communists took over because it was the only place they could exercise political and intellectual contro away from the grips of antisemitism.

Many immigrated before the revolution or in the first several years after. There was a Civil War(1917-1922) followed which kills millions of people and newcomer jews were the main driving force of it(together with other ethnics). Ethnic russians were dumb but not stupid or crazy enough to start killing each other without above supervision or to make "revolution" at the first place.
 
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Lenin was a half-Jew...



Many immigrated before the revolution or in the first several years after. There was a Civil War(1917-1922) followed which kills millions of people and newcomer jews were the main driving force of it(together with other ethnics). Ethnic russians were dumb but not stupid or crazy enough to start killing each other without above supervision or to make "revolution" at the first place.

1) Lenin was a half Jew, by that logic Obama is only half black and thus can't be considered black.

2) Again, even with that being the case, Jews were drawn to communism because it promised equality, not for any conspiracy to take over the goyim.
 
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1) Lenin was a half Jew, by that logic Obama is only half black and thus can't be considered black.

2) Again, even with that being the case, Jews were drawn to communism because it promised equality, not for any conspiracy to take over the goyim.

honestly,groups of power dont need of political conspiracies

they just do things and let PR deal with any potential backslash
the whole ''secret overcomplicated plan with 10k steps'' is pathethic
 
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When it comes to the “Jewish Question” everything becomes so complicated. No wonder! It was made to be so on purpose. The higher the confusion the easier it is for the crook to cheat the victim. Everything is mixed with legends, myts, half-truths, and often with outright lies.

Think about the very term “Antisemitism”. Anti + Semitic. But Semites are a huge group and the biggest semitic ethnic subgroup there are Arabs - just like the Palestinians. But let's focus on the Jews...

The fascist ADL defines Antisemitism as “hating Jews” - as if all jews are Semites and other semtis don't exist. This is in fact a good example of the new slender form of Fascism we see today. It takes possession of hate and claim that “only us” suffer from hate and therefore as victims, we can do EVERYTHING.

By doing this fascism is achieving at least two goals simultaneously:
  1. It can defiant what is hate AND who is hating. It has the power to shame and victims every once it decides in order to achieve its goals. A good example is simply shaming people that they are nazis only if they oppose horrendous crimes of Israel or the support the US gives to Israel.
  2. They hijack a whole little nation. Now if you are a jew and you oppose Zionism you will be shamed into submission and suffer from very harsh consequences. I would say that Jewish people are victims of Zionism.

For more on this please look at what glorious writers like Finkelstein and Chomsky said.

In fact, this is what MENSA doesn't understand. He fails to distinguish between Jews and Zionists. It is as if I would say that all Arabs are Jihadists, or all Germans are nazis. In fact, Zionism contradicts the very basic principles of Judaism and most, if not all, religious jews are either anti or non-zionist.

In addition, the juxtaposition of Zionists and the Third Reich is quite silly. Surprisingly (or not) the Zionists collaborated with the Nazis at some point. Many Zionists were highly sympathetic of the Fascists, for example the Betar movement. Betar was the movement out of which the Likud party was created, the same party Netaniahu is heading and ruling Israel. I am not saying Netaniahu is a nazi but the connections are no trivial as you think.

Needless to say that not all Zionists are Jews and not all Jews are Zionists. Christian (especial British) Zionists were around for a lot of time and we might see Islamic zionist in the future.

Anyways… MENSAS post is a profound case of intellectual masturbation. It is impossible to discuss the “Jewish Question” without referring to Bruno Bauer, Moshe Hess, Marx, Weininger, and the aforementioned Finkelshtein.

But I will write some criticism and I hope MENSA will answer.

The British, as any other colonial power, has prosecuted and brutally repressed everyone in its former colonies. I am not aware of any evidence that the Jewish population in Palestine was more oppressed than for instance the Indians who’s culture and economy was literally ruined by the Brits. In fact, the Zionist criminals and the British imperialists were quite good allies. No surprise! Criminals are gravitating to each other naturally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism_in_the_United_Kingdom

You have not to justify the right of the modern jews for the land of Israel. You cannot leave a land for 2000 years and expect that no one would come and settle there. And then to come back and demand it.

During the 2000 years of living in the diaspora (in Europe, Asia and Africa) Jews mingled and breed with locals (Arabs, Germans, Slavs, Ethiopians) how a genetic link can be established with the Land of Israel? Does a brown-haired green-eyed Russian Jew belong to Russia or to the middle east? Does a black-skinned Ethiopian Jew belong to Africa or to the middle east? These are rhetorical questions the answer to which is simple: they can live anywhere but not to oppress anyone.

As Chomsky said in one of his interviews that Israel is not struggling for its existence, instead it struggles to get a PRIVILEGED status among nations. And Israel’s strive for this privileged status corresponds with the imperialist goals of the USA and its hegemonic aspirations.

It also relates to non-white immigration to the EU. The international capital (concentrated in core countries - EU and US) wants to take control over natural resources that it needs for its production. For that goal, the US and its criminal allies invade peripheral resource-rich countries (Iraq, Libya) and sanction regimes that do not align with the “free trade” agenda of global capital (Russia, Iran, Cuba, North Korea). It allows global capital to take control of resources. At the same time, it ruins the regimes of the invaded countries and makes their population look for a better life and escape the hell that was thrown upon them by global capital. They often, but not always, immigrate to the west. Even here the capitalist and the western bourgeoisie win since they get cheap labor for precarious work and the European worker suffers from decreasing wages and harsher exploitation.

Israel resides in a strategic location and its role in the aforementioned process is pivotal. It is a local policeman of global capital, a powerhouse for weapon development and experimentation. Moreover, it is easy to allow Israel to do crimes no other nation would do otherwise and dismiss the severity of these crimes by recalling the horrors of the Holocaust - which is a horrendous disgrace! All in all, after ww2 Jews are in a leveraged position - they gain a lot but also suffer and are at great risks.

In addition, MENSA forgets to mention the crimes committed on the Palestinian people:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus

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I would agree with this except our world would be so much better without the jews. Imagine a world where our movies, media, news, and entertainment isn't entirely controlled by a powerful and wealthy group of religious sociopaths....​
Hitler wasn't an idiot, he knew what was going to happen if things weren't fixed, and unfortunately he failed to fix the problems and now we are suffering the consequences.​
 
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I would agree with this except our world would be so much better without the jews. Imagine a world where our movies, media, news, and entertainment isn't entirely controlled by a powerful and wealthy group of religious sociopaths....​
Hitler wasn't an idiot, he knew what was going to happen if things weren't fixed, and unfortunately he failed to fix the problems and now we are suffering the consequences.​

>assuming they wouldnt be replaced by yet another group
>assuming that even if you had a single race,similar groups wouldnt appear but based on other ideological and cultural distintions instead of race
 
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I would agree with this except our world would be so much better without the jews. Imagine a world where our movies, media, news, and entertainment isn't entirely controlled by a powerful and wealthy group of religious sociopaths....​
Hitler wasn't an idiot, he knew what was going to happen if things weren't fixed, and unfortunately he failed to fix the problems and now we are suffering the consequences.​

There's no way the movies and shows we watch could be better than how they are.
 
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Sounds kinda jewish to me tbh ngl
 
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Jews have some type of genetic advantage

Yeah they are morally bankrupt
 
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Yeah they are morally bankrupt
that is genetic advantage tribalism to peak levels
 
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Transcended Trucel said:
that is genetic advantage tribalism to peak levels

I also heard a Jewish guy once say that the "Talmud was the Jewish man's guide to criminality". Their religion gives them a morally justifiable excuse to treat everyone that isn't Jewish like animals because they are God's chosen people.

That's really the secret to their success is that there is no line they are willing to cross in order to succeed. Everyone else, especially religious, god-fearing people or human decency has limits to how far they are willing to go to get what they want.
 
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I posted a fuckton of anti jewish memes and collages about jewish elites, lobbyist and other people of influence who were jewish.
 
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Diocel said:
I posted a fuckton of anti jewish memes and collages about jewish elites, lobbyist and other people of influence who were jewish.
jannies are kikes confirmed.
 
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