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This theory is gaining some ground; I was made aware of it separately from the context of incels per se, but regarding the current research regarding evolutionary theories of the development of different systems of morality. I'd also already awareness of mate guarding behaviors, as well as the theory of fundamentalist religiosity as essentially an expression of an extreme guarder oriented phenotype. However, I recently had the insight that many of the people on the incel forums with me are likely actually in a similar situation to the one I'm in. It's actually a developing area of science and kind of depressing as the area of competition usually is, and gaining insights into nature typically is, as I'm sure many having studied anthropology or evolutionary biology -- or even sociology or sexology which tend to be a bit muted by comparison -- can attest to. I believe I've actually made significant contributions myself, especially in sexology posts I made on lookism regarding theories of evolution and essentially extending on the theory of homosexuality as nephew support. Today I have a comprehensive framework for what I would call the modern understanding of human evolution and sexual competition, which I believe to be recently emergent, and still an emerging area, but being the only current framework to seriously consider such things as evolution in today, in my opinion. Which is a mixture of both signalling theory in general, as well as specifically a contrast between two competing counter phenotypes insofar as thinking in the specifically human paradigm is concerned.
Satellite and sneak are similar things classed under the same sexual competitive style, contrasting with the same pattern with guard and territorial for example. I just condense them into satellite and guard to denote the two larger groups, as they are best characterized as such I believe, for at least a great many sneaking behaviors are ultimately satellite behaviors.
I never really thought of myself in such terms before a couple days ago, after having had my interest piqued some days prior by my friend in IRC, who is undoubtedly at least extremely gifted and probably a genius. However, I didn't really think about it too much until I realized that I oftentimes depict myself as essentially being a satellite.
Satellite males are typically with minimal success, which certainly seems reflective of our predicament. However, they are with enough success that they maintain a presence in the population in much smaller numbers than the more evolutionary successful guarders. This seems about to reflect how many here are autistic and clearly a minority as compared to the massively more prevalent neurotypicals.
Guarder behaviors in humans are associated with increasing religiosity; conversely, satellite behaviors are with decreasing religiosity, as well as with increasing rates of drug use and atypical sexuality expressions. This coincides well with autism as well.
For example, satellite males need a reason to present to a guarded female to divert her away from the guarder, and one common technique is essentially offering a nuptial gift; commonly it's of some recreational drug that necessitates her being intercepted from the guarding male so as to attain the nuptial gift at a location away from him.
In the human context, also may reduce the inhibitions of the female toward sex, but it serves also the important function of being a temptation to lead her away from the original male, as well as a reason for you to want to do so other than just blatantly saying you want sex from her, which is seen as socially awkward. You need to ask if she wants to smoke some weed or use some other drug, after first introducing yourself, and to then quickly get her to follow you to your own location, while the guarder male is otherwise distracted from her for whatever reason. Guarder males can use gifts also, but they tend to do so in the context of a progressing relationship, with the most traditional religious people, and culturally oriented people in general actually, even having their own traditional sequence of nuptial gifts.
That is a more traditional process of encoded nuptial gifts to progress through in a long term relationship. The satellite use of nuptial gifts is more recreational drug oriented and toward having a reason to have a female follow you away from another part of the environment where she is with guarder males, preferably without them noticing what is being done, which makes it a sneak behavior, which necessitates essentially stalking successful guarder males inconspicuously toward identifying when you can attempt offering such things toward leading their females away, after successfully doing which you have a decent chance of being able to have sex with them -- particularly if you correctly understood the scenario that unfolded, rather than having made a mistake, which is a risk for you to do given your general lack of awareness, which I have as well, but I believe to a lesser extent than many others here at least. Just including that so as to not create the impression that you are guaranteed sex after that process; however, that is certainly the basis from which a successful satellite strategy using male would progress to sex, which is a different basis than guarder males use.
The current theories of evolutionary biology are actually putting forth that much sense of morality is ultimately an evolved counter counter phenotype expression, in that more strongly guarder oriented males will be put under selective pressure to find the use of recreational drugs an immoral abomination needing to be outlawed in response to the success of the satellite strategy using it as its nuptial gift. Many of the most extreme guarder phenotypes have been essentially by their religion prohibited from anything even approximating a cutting edge expression of the understanding of sexual competition, and instead they rely on having extremely puritanical law systems that will simply stone the satellite strategies out of existence for being immoral abominations.
Pretty much every sexuality expression seen as immoral by traditionalists is ultimately a satellite strategy. For example, in the theory of homosexuality as being indirectly beneficial because of supporting ones underage nephews by providing resources to them through the natural process of using them as social contacts for probing their male peer groups for homosexual relationships, the homosexual uncle is actually expressing a satellite strategy of hovering around his nephew and being beneficial for him by providing him resources and the like, which he is driven to do by homosexual tendencies and desire to maintain social contacts with such aged males. This confers a heterosexual benefit onto the nephew who is rendered more competitive with his heterosexual friends by his homosexual uncle providing such support, and because the nephew has shared genes with his uncle, having sexual success indirectly benefits his uncle.
Satellite strategies involve lots of indirection. A female is moving toward a guarder male, but is intercepted and led away with offer of nuptial gift at another location. This is essentially redirecting the female from the guarder using the traditional system to oneself, which is to the detriment of the guarder strategy. Uncle is a homosexual but still has success with homosexuality because of the indirect benefit conferred to the heterosexual genes of the nephew. It results in genes that tag along essentially,
It tags along like a satellite.
Guarders evolved to see expressions of tag along genes as immoral and to have a desire to essentially dominate or even outright exterminate tag along genes. As a satellite male, people are going to just naturally be inclined to discriminate against you without even realizing it.
Neurotypicals are not quick to realize this I believe, but they essentially naturally are inclined to see you as both immoral and to have a distaste for you because of the prevalence of tag along genes you are expressing, which can only confer indirect fitness benefit, and which oftentimes do so in ways that guarders perceive as cheating, or which they perceive as immoral, which is their own counter strategy being manifested through the legal system with a facade of moral righteousness.
Even though they don't realize it, for many of you, neurotypicals -- and especially neurotypical males -- simply see you as being an intrinsically competing counter phenotype, and this causes them to naturally tend to discriminate against you and shun you. You are their primary competition, with them having in group competition using guarder strategies among themselves, but then seeing you as a fully separate sort of entity that uses an orthogonal counter strategy that is not only in competition with them as other guarders compete with them, but in competition with the very nature of their system of sexual competition, which results in you being subconsciously perceived as a sneak or satellite male -- which you likely are to one extent or another by your genotype, which expresses via your phenotype -- and treated accordingly, which is as an intrinsically competing role to them and not someone to be entered into alliances with readily even, seeing as in the natural world satellites group together into loose alliances with other satellites, and guarders with other guarders.
Simulation of alternative male reproductive behavior: calling and satellite behavior in field crickets
Male field crickets and other acoustically communicating insects call and attract females and silently intercept females attracted by the calling of o…
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Male field crickets and other acoustically communicating insects call and attract females and silently intercept females attracted by the calling of other males, so-called satellite behavior.
Satellite and sneak are similar things classed under the same sexual competitive style, contrasting with the same pattern with guard and territorial for example. I just condense them into satellite and guard to denote the two larger groups, as they are best characterized as such I believe, for at least a great many sneaking behaviors are ultimately satellite behaviors.
I never really thought of myself in such terms before a couple days ago, after having had my interest piqued some days prior by my friend in IRC, who is undoubtedly at least extremely gifted and probably a genius. However, I didn't really think about it too much until I realized that I oftentimes depict myself as essentially being a satellite.
Satellite males are typically with minimal success, which certainly seems reflective of our predicament. However, they are with enough success that they maintain a presence in the population in much smaller numbers than the more evolutionary successful guarders. This seems about to reflect how many here are autistic and clearly a minority as compared to the massively more prevalent neurotypicals.
Guarder behaviors in humans are associated with increasing religiosity; conversely, satellite behaviors are with decreasing religiosity, as well as with increasing rates of drug use and atypical sexuality expressions. This coincides well with autism as well.
Taboo subject of autism and paedophilia ‘must be tackled to improve lives’
The effects of Asperger’s and autistic spectrum disorder (ASD) on everything from depression to gender dysphoria could be being overlooked, according to a world-renowned expert on the syndrome. Tony
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Most controversially, he believes society needs to tackle the taboo subject of ASD and paedophilia. Speaking ahead of World Autism Awareness Day today, he suggested that many inmates in sex offender units, including those convicted of child pornography offences, show signs of Asperger’s or ASD.
Mr. Mahoney said Mr. Lundberg's case is one of many nationwide in which people with autism are prosecuted for child pornography offenses without proper understanding of their mental struggles.
Increased Risk for Substance Use-Related Problems in Autism Spectrum Disorders: A Population-Based Cohort Study - Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders
Despite limited and ambiguous empirical data, substance use-related problems have been assumed to be rare among patients with autism spectrum disorders (ASD). Using Swedish population-based registers we identified 26,986 individuals diagnosed with ASD during 1973–2009, and their 96,557 non-ASD...
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Increased Risk for Substance Use-Related Problems in Autism Spectrum Disorders: A Population-Based Cohort Study
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In summary, this large population-based study suggests that individuals with ASD have higher risk of substance use-related problems than population controls; most likely because of a shared familial liability for these conditions. An important implication of our findings concerns diagnostics and treatment strategies in ASD. Increased risk of substance-related problems in ASD suggests attention and preventive measures regarding substance use disorder in this population.
For example, satellite males need a reason to present to a guarded female to divert her away from the guarder, and one common technique is essentially offering a nuptial gift; commonly it's of some recreational drug that necessitates her being intercepted from the guarding male so as to attain the nuptial gift at a location away from him.
Nuptial gift - Wikipedia
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Many nuptial gifts are a source of nutrition for the recipient. In many species of animals, including birds, insects, and spiders, this takes the form of a food item that is transferred from a male to a female just prior to copulation.[3] This is a behavior known as courtship feeding.[4][5]
Inedible tokens may include items such as a fragment of leaf or twig, a seed tuft, or a silk balloon.[6]
In the human context, also may reduce the inhibitions of the female toward sex, but it serves also the important function of being a temptation to lead her away from the original male, as well as a reason for you to want to do so other than just blatantly saying you want sex from her, which is seen as socially awkward. You need to ask if she wants to smoke some weed or use some other drug, after first introducing yourself, and to then quickly get her to follow you to your own location, while the guarder male is otherwise distracted from her for whatever reason. Guarder males can use gifts also, but they tend to do so in the context of a progressing relationship, with the most traditional religious people, and culturally oriented people in general actually, even having their own traditional sequence of nuptial gifts.
Wedding anniversary - Wikipedia
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A wedding anniversary is the anniversary of the date a wedding took place. Traditional names exist for some of them: for instance, fifty years of marriage is called a "golden wedding anniversary" or simply a "golden anniversary" or "golden wedding".
[...]
Year Gemstone[20] 1st Mother of Pearl 2nd Garnet 3rd Moonstone 4th Blue Topaz 5th Rose Quartz 6th Amethyst 7th Onyx 8th Tourmaline 9th Lapis Lazuli 10th Crystal or green Tourmaline 11th Turquoise 12th Jade 13th Citrine 14th Opal 15th Rhodolite 20th Emerald 25th Tsavorite 30th Pearl 40th Ruby 50th Gold 60th Diamond 65th Sapphire
That is a more traditional process of encoded nuptial gifts to progress through in a long term relationship. The satellite use of nuptial gifts is more recreational drug oriented and toward having a reason to have a female follow you away from another part of the environment where she is with guarder males, preferably without them noticing what is being done, which makes it a sneak behavior, which necessitates essentially stalking successful guarder males inconspicuously toward identifying when you can attempt offering such things toward leading their females away, after successfully doing which you have a decent chance of being able to have sex with them -- particularly if you correctly understood the scenario that unfolded, rather than having made a mistake, which is a risk for you to do given your general lack of awareness, which I have as well, but I believe to a lesser extent than many others here at least. Just including that so as to not create the impression that you are guaranteed sex after that process; however, that is certainly the basis from which a successful satellite strategy using male would progress to sex, which is a different basis than guarder males use.
The current theories of evolutionary biology are actually putting forth that much sense of morality is ultimately an evolved counter counter phenotype expression, in that more strongly guarder oriented males will be put under selective pressure to find the use of recreational drugs an immoral abomination needing to be outlawed in response to the success of the satellite strategy using it as its nuptial gift. Many of the most extreme guarder phenotypes have been essentially by their religion prohibited from anything even approximating a cutting edge expression of the understanding of sexual competition, and instead they rely on having extremely puritanical law systems that will simply stone the satellite strategies out of existence for being immoral abominations.
Pretty much every sexuality expression seen as immoral by traditionalists is ultimately a satellite strategy. For example, in the theory of homosexuality as being indirectly beneficial because of supporting ones underage nephews by providing resources to them through the natural process of using them as social contacts for probing their male peer groups for homosexual relationships, the homosexual uncle is actually expressing a satellite strategy of hovering around his nephew and being beneficial for him by providing him resources and the like, which he is driven to do by homosexual tendencies and desire to maintain social contacts with such aged males. This confers a heterosexual benefit onto the nephew who is rendered more competitive with his heterosexual friends by his homosexual uncle providing such support, and because the nephew has shared genes with his uncle, having sexual success indirectly benefits his uncle.
Satellite strategies involve lots of indirection. A female is moving toward a guarder male, but is intercepted and led away with offer of nuptial gift at another location. This is essentially redirecting the female from the guarder using the traditional system to oneself, which is to the detriment of the guarder strategy. Uncle is a homosexual but still has success with homosexuality because of the indirect benefit conferred to the heterosexual genes of the nephew. It results in genes that tag along essentially,
The Neutral Theory of Evolution | Chase Nelson | Inference
Evolutionary biologist Austin Hughes (1949–2015) died suddenly this past year. Chase Nelson describes his scientific legacy, in particular his work on frequencies of synonymous and non-synonymous mutations in neutral and adaptive evolution.
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Now imagine that, by genetic drift, one allele reproduces enough to replace another in the population. When it does so, any mutations in its neighboring regions will tag along.
It tags along like a satellite.
Guarders evolved to see expressions of tag along genes as immoral and to have a desire to essentially dominate or even outright exterminate tag along genes. As a satellite male, people are going to just naturally be inclined to discriminate against you without even realizing it.
Neurotypical Peers are Less Willing to Interact with Those with Autism based on Thin Slice Judgments - Scientific Reports
Individuals with autism spectrum disorder (ASD), including those who otherwise require less support, face severe difficulties in everyday social interactions. Research in this area has primarily focused on identifying the cognitive and neurological differences that contribute to these social...
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Neurotypical Peers are Less Willing to Interact with Those with Autism based on Thin Slice Judgments
Neurotypicals are not quick to realize this I believe, but they essentially naturally are inclined to see you as both immoral and to have a distaste for you because of the prevalence of tag along genes you are expressing, which can only confer indirect fitness benefit, and which oftentimes do so in ways that guarders perceive as cheating, or which they perceive as immoral, which is their own counter strategy being manifested through the legal system with a facade of moral righteousness.
Even though they don't realize it, for many of you, neurotypicals -- and especially neurotypical males -- simply see you as being an intrinsically competing counter phenotype, and this causes them to naturally tend to discriminate against you and shun you. You are their primary competition, with them having in group competition using guarder strategies among themselves, but then seeing you as a fully separate sort of entity that uses an orthogonal counter strategy that is not only in competition with them as other guarders compete with them, but in competition with the very nature of their system of sexual competition, which results in you being subconsciously perceived as a sneak or satellite male -- which you likely are to one extent or another by your genotype, which expresses via your phenotype -- and treated accordingly, which is as an intrinsically competing role to them and not someone to be entered into alliances with readily even, seeing as in the natural world satellites group together into loose alliances with other satellites, and guarders with other guarders.
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