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Theory One day, political parties will start using the growing incel population to get votes by advocating for measures that benefit incels

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By the rate of hypergamy and male sexlessness, I hypothesize that political parties will seize the opportunity to gain votes from a large group of men by advocating for incel related government measures. It will start slowly with decriminalizing prostitution -> advocating for sexual surrogates -> banning online dating -> government will form couples themselves (forced monogamy) -> government assigned girlfriends -> schools where women are trained to become housewives and please incels.

The future is bright brothers. Keep spreading the blackpill. They cannot ignore us forever.
 
Big doubt. And big cope. We are a minority.
There's also more than enough cucks to vote lib.
 
Big doubt. And big cope. We are a minority.
There's also more than enough cucks to vote lib.
I prefer being an optimist and seeing the best out of man kind.
 
We are popular, more people write and speak about us than we do at the forum. :forcedsmile:
Yes because they know. They know about the growing trend. All of these men are just one blackpill away from becoming full blown incels.
 
Yes because they know. They know about the growing trend. All of these men are just one blackpill away from becoming full blown incels.
Incels who ignore themselves discover their true social situation thanks to us. :p
 
Out of the general population, blackpilled people make an extremely small minority. You're right about one thing though, and that's political parties will start using the growing incel population to gain votes. They will demonize us and accuse us of standing in the way of the progressive NWO and try to censor us as much as possible. Anti incel rhetoric will obviously be most popular among progressives and feminists which make up a much higher population than incels and the combined efforts against us will coerce people into voting blue to stop le evil inkells
 
By the rate of hypergamy and male sexlessness, I hypothesize that political parties will seize the opportunity to gain votes from a large group of men by advocating for incel related government measures. It will start slowly with decriminalizing prostitution -> advocating for sexual surrogates -> banning online dating -> government will form couples themselves (forced monogamy) -> government assigned girlfriends -> schools where women are trained to become housewives and please incels.

The future is bright brothers. Keep spreading the blackpill. They cannot ignore us forever.


Spot on. I kind of think this might happen as well (not wishful thinking -- I just think it's a legit possibility.)
 
Out of the general population, blackpilled people make an extremely small minority. You're right about one thing though, and that's political parties will start using the growing incel population to gain votes. They will demonize us and accuse us of standing in the way of the progressive NWO and try to censor us as much as possible. Anti incel rhetoric will obviously be most popular among progressives and feminists which make up a much higher population than incels and the combined efforts against us will coerce people into voting blue to stop le evil inkells
This. Also, voter engagement and turnout has been higher among women than among men in most Western countries. (Because men tend to have less spare time to spend on frivolous political BS.) Guess whose votes will invariably carry the day.
 
Spot on. I kind of think this might happen as well (not wishful thinking -- I just think it's a legit possibility.)
There will be a push back from the gynocentric feminist agenda. There already is. We have to win the culture war.
 
I also believe that the growth of male virginity rate confirms blackpill and will increase the amount of incels blackpills
What can go wrong is the media start to blame other things for it and mostly incels accept
But for sure in the future we will have a good amount of blackpill incels, this is InevitablER
Out of the general population, blackpilled people make an extremely small minority. You're right about one thing though, and that's political parties will start using the growing incel population to gain votes. They will demonize us and accuse us of standing in the way of the progressive NWO and try to censor us as much as possible. Anti incel rhetoric will obviously be most popular among progressives and feminists which make up a much higher population than incels and the combined efforts against us will coerce people into voting blue to stop le evil inkells
Tbh our unique hope Is that the advancement of blackpill the media loses strength or at least incels are less influenced by it
 
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There will be a push back from the gynocentric feminist agenda. There already is. We have to win the culture war.

There already is and (in the U.S, Canada, and UK especially) they're seeking to prejudice the legal authorities to consider incels as terrorists.
 
I also believe that the growth of male virginity rate in addition to trying blackpill which will increase the amount of incels blackpills will even increase the amount of incel
What can go wrong is the media start to blame other things for it and mostly incels accept
But for sure in the future we will have a good amount of blackpill incels, this is InevitablER
Thats what theyre doing. Theyre blaming men for being fat neckbeards even though more women are overweight and way more men train at the gym. They cannot gaslight forever, one day it will all break down.
 
I also believe that the growth of male virginity rate in addition to trying blackpill which will increase the amount of incels blackpills will even increase the amount of incel
What can go wrong is the media start to blame other things for it and mostly incels accept
But for sure in the future we will have a good amount of blackpill incels, this is InevitablER

Tbh our unique hope Is that the advancement of blackpill the media loses strength or at least incels are less influenced by it

Note the clear split in so called "Nerdom" between the Based and :soy:. Yes, this will have cultural ramifications -- it already is.
 
No way, most incels just become soyboys who cope and are happy to be cucked. In any case, why would you appeal to incels when that will alienate half of the voter base (women)? Giving women voting rights was a huge mistake but we are stuck with it.
 
No way, most incels just become soyboys who cope and are happy to be cucked. In any case, why would you appeal to incels when that will alienate half of the voter base (women)? Giving women voting rights was a huge mistake but we are stuck with it.
Male surplus. They will not start with extreme measures at first, simple things like sexual surrogacy.
 
There's also more than enough cucks to vote lib.
This. Incels who don't know about their condition or don't want to aknowledge might be a big demographic, but they would rather vote against their interest not to be associated with us rather than assume the ugly truth.
 
yes incels in denial are cucked but never in human history has there been a theory like blackpill that expose this
 
Male surplus. They will not start with extreme measures at first, simple things like sexual surrogacy.
They might take some actions to help us cope, but it won't move onto things that fix the root societal problems, it would be just to keep us docile, which they don't even really need to do.
 
We live in a matriarchy. Everything revolves around foids. They will never allow this.
 
We live in a matriarchy. Everything revolves around foids. They will never allow this.
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This. Incels who don't know about their condition or don't want to aknowledge might be a big demographic, but they would rather vote against their interest not to be associated with us rather than assume the ugly truth.

Just suppose though that this sort of person comes across in mass entertainment some of sort of scene which speaks to their plight. Might they not then become ideological?



View: https://youtu.be/9zYL-XylC74


Hey, people in mass entertainment reading this thread -- perhaps inceldom as an issue is more zeitgeist/true/attention-grabbing than whatever lame shit you're working on now?? :feelsLSD:
 

political parties will start using the growing incel population to get votes by advocating for measures that benefit incels​


Doubtful, because incels for the better part of history have been low-T soyboy orbiters, and definitely still are, despite growing popularity of based communities like this and other manosphere hubs.

Hell I'm still probably that at my core, blackpill is pretty much mostly in your conscious mind but not internalized when push comes to shove.

If it were about passive appeal then sure, but women actively seek out male spaces and subcultures to destroy them, and they would attack any such effort that would appeal to mass amounts of male population (ie free onaholes or free handjobs, for example)

This sabotage comes from both sides: the feminists on the left and the religifags on the right.
 
Doubtful, because incels for the better part of history have been low-T soyboy orbiters, and definitely still are, despite growing popularity of based communities like this and other manosphere hubs.

Hell I'm still probably that at my core, blackpill is pretty much mostly in your conscious mind but not internalized when push comes to shove.

If it were about passive appeal then sure, but women actively seek out male spaces and subcultures to destroy them, and they would attack any such effort that would appeal to mass amounts of male population (ie free onaholes or free handjobs, for example)

This sabotage comes from both sides: the feminists on the left and the religifags on the right.

Cosmological inflation-theory level IQ.
 
Doubtful, because incels for the better part of history have been low-T soyboy orbiters, and definitely still are, despite growing popularity of based communities like this and other manosphere hubs.

Hell I'm still probably that at my core, blackpill is pretty much mostly in your conscious mind but not internalized when push comes to shove.

If it were about passive appeal then sure, but women actively seek out male spaces and subcultures to destroy them, and they would attack any such effort that would appeal to mass amounts of male population (ie free onaholes or free handjobs, for example)

This sabotage comes from both sides: the feminists on the left and the religifags on the right.
Yes I agree with you on multiple points. The sabotage might come from both sides but the conservative would endorse banning porn, degeneracy and enforced monogamy.

Would you become bluepilled if a woman offered herself to you willingly?
 
They might take some actions to help us cope, but it won't move onto things that fix the root societal problems, it would be just to keep us docile, which they don't even really need to do.
[UWSL]no way, most incels just become soyboys who cope and are happy to be cucked. in any case, why would you appeal to incels when that will alienate half of the voter base (women)? giving women voting rights was a huge mistake but we are stuck with it[/UWSL]
Doubtful, because incels for the better part of history have been low-T soyboy orbiters, and definitely still are, despite growing popularity of based communities like this and other manosphere hubs.

If it were about passive appeal then sure, but women actively seek out male spaces and subcultures to destroy them, and they would attack any such effort that would appeal to mass amounts of male population (ie free onaholes or free handjobs, for example)

This sabotage comes from both sides: the feminists on the left and the religifags on the right.

this
 
The sabotage might come from both sides but the conservative would endorse banning porn, degeneracy and enforced monogamy.
Which conservatives? Modern conservacucks are too scared to enforce monogamy, closest we probably see to enforcement is among the Islamists

Would you become bluepilled if a woman offered herself to you willingly?
I'm already bluepilled (subconsciously) it's an instinct you can bury but ultimately bluepill is the root of who I am, and I think the root of most male psychology. It's too entrenched and I kinda cherish it because you need a hint of idealism and romanticism to want to live in this world or enjoy stories.

If a woman offered herself willingly then I might be suspicious but ultimately if I ascended with her I would probably go bluer than the bluest soy and be lost to you all.

I just know that I have a lot of hypothetical anti-manipulation skills but with little practice or faith in them.

I would probably be buying baby food for chad's secret baby in under a year convinced it's mine
 
Which conservatives? Modern conservacucks are too scared to enforce monogamy, closest we probably see to enforcement is among the Islamists


I'm already bluepilled (subconsciously) it's an instinct you can bury but ultimately bluepill is the root of who I am, and I think the root of most male psychology. It's too entrenched and I kinda cherish it because you need a hint of idealism and romanticism to want to live in this world or enjoy stories.

If a woman offered herself willingly then I might be suspicious but ultimately if I ascended with her I would probably go bluer than the bluest soy and be lost to you all.

I just know that I have a lot of hypothetical anti-manipulation skills but with little practice or faith in them.

I would probably be buying baby food for chad's secret baby in under a year convinced it's mine

jesus christ is this me lmao
 
Which conservatives? Modern conservacucks are too scared to enforce monogamy, closest we probably see to enforcement is among the Islamists


I'm already bluepilled (subconsciously) it's an instinct you can bury but ultimately bluepill is the root of who I am, and I think the root of most male psychology. It's too entrenched and I kinda cherish it because you need a hint of idealism and romanticism to want to live in this world or enjoy stories.

If a woman offered herself willingly then I might be suspicious but ultimately if I ascended with her I would probably go bluer than the bluest soy and be lost to you all.

I just know that I have a lot of hypothetical anti-manipulation skills but with little practice or faith in them.

I would probably be buying baby food for chad's secret baby in under a year convinced it's mine
That's pretty cucked bro. Take a hold of yourself.
 
Big doubt. And big cope. We are a minority.
There's also more than enough cucks to vote lib.
Which conservatives? Modern conservacucks are too scared to enforce monogamy, closest we probably see to enforcement is among the Islamists


I'm already bluepilled (subconsciously) it's an instinct you can bury but ultimately bluepill is the root of who I am, and I think the root of most male psychology. It's too entrenched and I kinda cherish it because you need a hint of idealism and romanticism to want to live in this world or enjoy stories.

If a woman offered herself willingly then I might be suspicious but ultimately if I ascended with her I would probably go bluer than the bluest soy and be lost to you all.

I just know that I have a lot of hypothetical anti-manipulation skills but with little practice or faith in them.

I would probably be buying baby food for chad's secret baby in under a year convinced it's mine
:worryfeels:
 
That's pretty cucked bro. Take a hold of yourself.
No, cucked is being deceived.

Cucked is not being aware of your bluepill elements: how else can you control them but to be aware of them?

Those in denial of residual bluepill elements are the ones going to be cucked by their subconsciouses.

I'm aware of what lurks there and master it.

It is not cucked to be humble and admit your vulnerability to being cucked.

It probably tends to be overconfident guys who think they're too smart to get cucked that end up missing the signs.
 
No, cucked is being deceived.

Cucked is not being aware of your bluepill elements: how else can you control them but to be aware of them?

Those in denial of residual bluepill elements are the ones going to be cucked by their subconsciouses.

I'm aware of what lurks there and master it.

It is not cucked to be humble and admit your vulnerability to being cucked.

It probably tends to be overconfident guys who think they're too smart to get cucked that end up missing the signs.
If you have ''residual bluepill'' that means you think there is a possibility of ascension which makes you a fakecel.
 
I think the Ldar movement will be a focal point of discussion very soon, and the incel community kinda overlaps on this issue.

I genuinely see no point of pursuing a high paying career if I will have no family on the future.
 
nothings ever going to happen. Thinking it will is pure cope. Low smv males are literally the lowest forms of life in the west. Everything in soyciety is catered towards the wellbeing of women. We live in a matriarchy.
I think the Ldar movement will be a focal point of discussion very soon, and the incel community kinda overlaps on this issue.

I genuinely see no point of pursuing a high paying career if I will have no family on the future.

yes the topic of hikikomori types of men (who are growing in numbers) that dropped out of soyciety will be discussed but deemed not significant enough, because if it doesnt affect women negatively then it simply doesnt matter. Nobody gives a fuck about low value males.
 
By the rate of hypergamy and male sexlessness, I hypothesize that political parties will seize the opportunity to gain votes from a large group of men by advocating for incel related government measures. It will start slowly with decriminalizing prostitution -> advocating for sexual surrogates -> banning online dating -> government will form couples themselves (forced monogamy) -> government assigned girlfriends -> schools where women are trained to become housewives and please incels.

The future is bright brothers. Keep spreading the blackpill. They cannot ignore us forever.
giga high iq
these powermaxxed normtards will if the incel group of men gets defined enough vocal enough and large enough we will unironically become a fucking voting block that they will try and gain votes from

also would be giga high iq for an incel to start "a protest party" called the black pill party, in the same vein as the anti establishment monster raving lunny party in the u.k.
nothings ever going to happen. Thinking it will is pure cope. Low smv males are literally the lowest forms of life in the west. Everything in soyciety is catered towards the wellbeing of women. We live in a matriarchy.


yes the topic of hikikomori types of men (who are growing in numbers) that dropped out of soyciety will be discussed but deemed not significant enough, because if it doesnt affect women negatively then it simply doesnt matter. Nobody gives a fuck about low value males.
i will use your bastardised and pathetic use of the word cope against you

what you are saying is political hocum and COPE

If a group becomes large enough, politicians will start to pander to the interests of them, AS THEY HAVE A VOTE, politics is a massive game of vote accumulation.

ergo if the number of incels becomes large enough and vocal enough eg large scale protests and a defined movement, THERE IS NO DOUBT POLITICIANS WHOA ALWAYS HAVE AN EYE ON GAINING VOTES WILL LOOK TO SECURE THESE VOTES

look at the fucking minority vote in america and even in the u.k it represents still a fucking tiny minority of the votes yet poltiicians are bendning over backwards to try and win the vote sometimes even to the cost of other blocks

why would they not do the same, if incels possibly outnumber these minorities numerically in western nations especially u.s. germany and uk
 
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If you have ''residual bluepill'' that means you think there is a possibility of ascension which makes you a fakecel.

Thinking there is a possibility of ascension does not make you a fakecel, it just makes you excessively optimistic by clinging to sub-1%-of-1% possibilities.

It is basically impossible to prove that SUBCONSCIOUSLY you don't think it is possible, even if consciously you embrace the idea that it's impossible.

Even consciously, it isn't fakecel to cling to absurdities like "maybe there is a one-in-ten-million girl who would like me and I just don't know how to find her".

Incel is the inability to end your celibacy by finding a GF, it doesn't have to mean that a possible-GF can't hypothetically exist for you somewhere on earth, just that she's inaccessible to you (such as being unable to locate her, or perhaps even knowing if she exists, as a theoretical soulmate)
 
By the rate of hypergamy and male sexlessness, I hypothesize that political parties will seize the opportunity to gain votes from a large group of men by advocating for incel related government measures. It will start slowly with decriminalizing prostitution -> advocating for sexual surrogates -> banning online dating -> government will form couples themselves (forced monogamy) -> government assigned girlfriends -> schools where women are trained to become housewives and please incels.

The future is bright brothers. Keep spreading the blackpill. They cannot ignore us forever.
the future is bright the future is incel
 
Thinking there is a possibility of ascension does not make you a fakecel, it just makes you excessively optimistic by clinging to sub-1%-of-1% possibilities.

It is basically impossible to prove that SUBCONSCIOUSLY you don't think it is possible, even if consciously you embrace the idea that it's impossible.

Even consciously, it isn't fakecel to cling to absurdities like "maybe there is a one-in-ten-million girl who would like me and I just don't know how to find her".

Incel is the inability to end your celibacy by finding a GF, it doesn't have to mean that a possible-GF can't hypothetically exist for you somewhere on earth, just that she's inaccessible to you (such as being unable to locate her, or perhaps even knowing if she exists, as a theoretical soulmate)
Yes I get your point now. Personally, if I ever ended up with a girlfriend then I don't think I would be able to cope, being previously blackpilled and understanding female nature. @Lebensmüder explained it better than I can, he's a pretty smart guy.
look at the fucking minority vote in america and even in the u.k it represents still a fucking tiny minority of the votes yet poltiicians are bendning over backwards to try and win the vote sometimes even to the cost of other blocks

why would they not do the same, if incels possibly outnumber these minorities numerically in western nations especially u.s. germany and uk
This. Politicians already do so much to pander for minorities. Just wait until incels outnumbers them.
 
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No, there won't be any actual political movement to cater to incels and discuss their issues. Instead, politicians will just attempt to divert young, disgruntled and therefore radicalized men to their cause, like they do now. Leftards blame everything on patriarchy/racism/sexism, cuckservatives brandish their "traditional" values modelled after murrica of the 70s, oppose immigration, etc. They can get the vote of the vast majority of incels and sexless men today.
 
dude I don't want to stare at Castreau plz change your icon
Personally, if I ever ended up with a girlfriend then I don't think I would be able to cope, being previously blackpilled and understanding female nature.

That's one of the sad things... those of us snubbed by women most of our lives and probably more deserving at a chance for happiness with them then the chads who have had dozens/hundreds of chances... even if we were with a nice GF who loved us we'd probably fuck it up by being overly paranoid / untrusting / closed-off

Whereas Chad can trust his GF and open up and be uninvested because it's less likely she'll stray (fewer guys mog him) and even if she does, plenty more fish in the sea.

The way I look at it: even though I would hypothetically want to invest a lot of time/resources into the right girl ,because it's so hard to know who is right girl, I think it is right to be pragmative and reserved about the time/resources you invest in a relationship unless it was reciprocated in an egalitarian fashion.

If that's not enough for a GF then she's probably out to exploit you anyway.

You can invest but it should be balanced enough just so it's not like you're exploiting her.

I sure mull over a lot of hypothetical BS when I've never asked a girl out to lunch =/

@Lebensmüder explained it better than I can, he's a pretty smart guy.
what thread?
No, there won't be any actual political movement to cater to incels and discuss their issues. Instead, politicians will just attempt to divert young, disgruntled and therefore radicalized men to their cause, like they do now. Leftards blame everything on patriarchy/racism/sexism, cuckservatives brandish their "traditional" values modelled after murrica of the 70s, oppose immigration, etc. They can get the vote of the vast majority of incels and sexless men today.
pretty much this, they will just harness the soy into antifa-like things (like the islamists do with jihad) so they think they'll score pussy by being heroes

meanwhile the girls they want to impress at at home getting boned by chads who don't bother protesting and prob mock it
 
I sure mull over a lot of hypothetical BS when I've never asked a girl out to lunch =/
what thread?


BTW how old are you?
 
short? Ugly? Autism?
I don't view these as discrete categories, all are measurable continuums.

I'm not the most-autistic, the most-ugly or the most-short, but there's enough of these in comparison to the acceptable bars set by hypergamy that finding happiness seems decreasingly feasible.
 
I don't view these as discrete categories, all are measurable continuums.

I'm not the most-autistic, the most-ugly or the most-short, but there's enough of these in comparison to the acceptable bars set by hypergamy that finding happiness seems decreasingly feasible.
It just began for you then my friend. If you are a low-tier normie with enough money you can betabuxx for some single mother and achieve your fantasy.
 
If you are a low-tier normie with enough money
I have a lot of trouble getting that. Can't focus to complete education, have emotional breakdowns working full-time jobs, etc.

you can betabuxx for some single mother and achieve your fantasy.
Swooping in to finance a single mom isn't exactly my fantasy. I don't aspire to emulate Andy Stitzer. I wouldn't consider fucking someone like Trish Piedmont to be ascension.

I might still fuck her, sure, but I'm not going to betabux/self-cuck to accomplish it. I'd only fuck a MILF if it came low-effort and no strings. Gambling resources is only worthwhile for girls who haven't reproduced yet. Otherwise: egalitarian relationships only or I'd want to rope.

Some might condemn that as "standardscel" but I really don't think my dick would work if I cucked myself that bad. It's kind of like how nobody here is driving into ghettos trying to escortmax for 20 bucks with some 70 year old crackwhore with aids: none of us are truly pussy-at-all-cost.

If I had to do something as biddy as paying for sex I'd prefer it to be an honest escort relationship but unfortunately that is illegal. There's no distinction between betabux and prostitution aside from betabux being a LARP without a safe word.
 
I have a lot of trouble getting that. Can't focus to complete education, have emotional breakdowns working full-time jobs, etc.


Swooping in to finance a single mom isn't exactly my fantasy. I don't aspire to emulate Andy Stitzer. I wouldn't consider fucking someone like Trish Piedmont to be ascension.

I might still fuck her, sure, but I'm not going to betabux/self-cuck to accomplish it. I'd only fuck a MILF if it came low-effort and no strings. Gambling resources is only worthwhile for girls who haven't reproduced yet. Otherwise: egalitarian relationships only or I'd want to rope.

Some might condemn that as "standardscel" but I really don't think my dick would work if I cucked myself that bad. It's kind of like how nobody here is driving into ghettos trying to escortmax for 20 bucks with some 70 year old crackwhore with aids: none of us are truly pussy-at-all-cost.

If I had to do something as biddy as paying for sex I'd prefer it to be an honest escort relationship but unfortunately that is illegal. There's no distinction between betabux and prostitution aside from betabux being a LARP without a safe word.

Look, I'm going to be 100% honest with you. I think you should go to a psychiatrist and have them drug you until you become numb. Then you can try and get your shit together, and if you are lucky you will end up with a roastie without kids who fucked a lot of attractive men in her 20s but now willing to ''settle'' down. And then you can live comfortably in your fantasy land and forget about everything else, incels, manosphere and blackpill stuff. This might be the only way out of this misery for you, I don't know for long you will be able to cope with this. I'm not going to judge you for becoming ultra bluepilled to a roastie, I don't know the pain you are feeling as a 32year old wizard yet but I can imagine it gets pretty bad.

Either that or you rope or go JD (in GTV5).
 
Look, I'm going to be 100% honest with you. I think you should go to a psychiatrist and have them drug you until you become numb.
Already in process.

Then you can try and get your shit together,
The problem is that the anti-dep sleeping pill I take can't be taken in large amounts or you get priapism resulting in your dick dying if you don't get to a hospital to drain the blood via stint fast enough.

I'm not going to risk that by experimenting with higher dosage, even if it's subscribed.

and if you are lucky you will end up with a roastie without kids who fucked a lot of attractive men in her 20s but now willing to ''settle'' down. And then you can live comfortably in your fantasy land and forget about everything else, incels, manosphere and blackpill stuff.
Dude I've got bluepill in me but I'm not confident I have enough to settle for that.

This might be the only way out of this misery for you
Or a way into it.
Had uncle who basically did this and he just got fat/diabetic with depression living with the landwhale who settled for him and who he settled for.
I'm too close to the line of such a descent, want to avoid.

I don't know for long you will be able to cope with this. I'm not going to judge you for becoming ultra bluepilled to a roastie, I don't know the pain you are feeling as a 32year old wizard yet but I can imagine it gets pretty bad.

Either that or you rope or go JD (in GTV5).
Part of the suffering is clinging to a semblance of normalcy.
Once you embrace your diversion from expectations and how you are a mockable oddity, it matters less if you can cling to your copes.
A big part is I don't even view them as copes, I view them as passions/hobbies/callings.
Dismissing them as "copes" basically is a put-down as if their only purpose is to distract you from other missed things.
A lot might BEGIN that way but they begin to have a value in and of themself: otherwise you'd just choose ANYTHING.
The very ability to hypnotize you while other BS can't is proof of their value.
 

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