Discussion OCD is a really weird condition

[Hoppipolla]

I know some other members have it so I thought I'd just share a couple of thoughts on it. I've had it for about 6 years. For the first year it was getting worse and for the last 5 years it's slowly slowly been improving.

The best grasp on it I've got is that all it does is take any repeatable event and then give you an unpleasant, abstract thought to try to get you to repeat it.

So you step on a crack in the pavement and it tells you that unless you go back and step on it again then some random bad thing will happen.

It seems like the details are totally arbitrary - the goal is simply repetition (of anything).

Such a bizarre condition and almost an insight into one of the common "points of failure" that the human brain has.

Hopefully I'll continue to get mine more under control. Understanding it really helps as well as not feeling that there are things out there that are "out to get me".

Anyway, that's all I wanted to say on it for now I guess!

 

[incelerated]

Hope you get better.

 

[Hoppipolla]

Hope you get better.

Thanks. It sucks yeah. It's interesting that I haven't had many replies to this thread - it suggests to me that depression is much, much more common than OCD. As lots of people here say they have depression.

Anxiety too seems a bit less common than depression.

Typically I think they're just different ways for the mind to react under difficult circumstances.

A friend of mine went through a hard time too (isolation) and ended up with schizophrenia and hearing voices >.<

 

[thespanishcel]

Do you have real OCD or self-diagnosed like tiktok foids who collect mental disorders like if they were pokemon cards?

 

[mechashota]

Do you have real OCD or self-diagnosed like tiktok foids who collect mental disorders like if they were pokemon cards?

ocd sucks i dont think foids even want to touch it with a 30 foot pole

 

[thespanishcel]

ocd sucks i dont think foids even want to touch it with a 30 foot pole

It's one of the favorite fake disorders that thots pretend to have, along with depression and borderline personality disorder.

 

[Hoppipolla]

It's one of the favorite fake disorders that thots pretend to have, along with depression and borderline personality disorder.

To be fair I think a lot of them might have BPD, lol

Many mental conditions I am not really convinced exist and are just ways for NT normies to label people who don't think like them.

My OCD is definitely real. In late 2017 I was so bad I went to the emergency room once (because I couldn't take it, basically) and got saved by my parents another time (they put me up for a month while I got my head from 0% to 5%, heh).

These days it's much better. Even by the start of 2018 it had improved quite a lot due to me starting to develop some coping strategies.

It's a horrible condition but I'm not sure if I'd rather have depression because that can lead suicide.

 

[Intellau_Celistic]

The two conditions known as Autistic Spectrum Disorder(ASD) and Schizophrenic Spectrum Disorder(SSD) are closely associated, genetically-speaking.

ASD:

Autism Spectrum Disorder disease: Malacards - Research Articles, Drugs, Genes, Clinical Trials

www.malacards.org

SSD:

https://www.malacards.org/card/schizophrenia?search=Schizophrenia

ASD and SSD are both known to cause cognitive impairments and sensory problems/psychosis...

I'll focus on Processing Speed for this thread:

IQ Part 5: Processing Speed | EdPsyched

Welcome to the final installment of my deep dive into the IQ. We have already looked at the first four components: Verbal Comprehension, Visual Spatial, Fluid Reasoning and Working Memory. Today’s post will examine Processing Speed. As a reminder, I’ve been using the WISC-V for the basis of...

edpsyched.com

With our introduction to the PSI, let's begin:

Longitudinal processing speed impairments in males with autism and the effects of white matter microstructure - PubMed

The present study used an accelerated longitudinal design to examine group differences and age-related changes in processing speed in 81 individuals with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) compared to 56 age-matched individuals with typical development (ages 6-39 years). Processing speed was...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Cognitive Deficits in Psychotic Disorders: A Lifespan Perspective - PubMed

Individuals with disorders that include psychotic symptoms (i.e. psychotic disorders) experience broad cognitive impairments in the chronic state, indicating a dimension of abnormality associated with the experience of psychosis. These impairments negatively impact functional outcome...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

ASD and SSD affect cognition and processing speed, as indicated above.

Below is an example of my own genetic results:

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The Psychiatric Risk Gene Transcription Factor 4 (TCF4) Regulates Neurodevelopmental Pathways Associated With Schizophrenia, Autism, and Intellectual Disability

AbstractBackground. Common genetic variants in and around the gene encoding transcription factor 4 (TCF4) are associated with an increased risk of schizoph

academic.oup.com

 

[Balding Subhuman]

I get obsessive violent thoughts occasionally, taking SSRI's made it worse. Also benzodiazepine withdrawal made them extremely bad

 

[virginforlife]

Even i have severe OCD i keep getting repetitive thoughts and no matter what ever i do they keep repeating and i find a solution to problem inside my mind and it keeps repeating again and again because of these thoughts i failed in more than 3 subjects in my exams as i keep on getting these thoughts at the time of studying. Thoughts are about my future like something bad happens to me related to woman. dont know what to do i still keep getting those thoughts

 

[Emba]

Cod? Doc? Odc?

 

[BornToLose]

I've been diagnosed with it for 20 odd years. Mostly intrusive thoughts invading pleasant thoughts. It got better though with Prozac, booze and time (but I wouldn't reccommend booze 'cause I'm an alcoholic: basically an obsessive-compulsive drinker, so they're probably related).

 

[coping_manlet]

I've been diagnosed with it for 20 odd years. Mostly intrusive thoughts invading pleasant thoughts. It got better though with Prozac, booze and time (but I wouldn't reccommend booze 'cause I'm an alcoholic: basically an obsessive-compulsive drinker, so they're probably related).

How much a day do you drink on average?

 

[BornToLose]

How much a day do you drink on average?

12-15 cans of cider. Trying to taper off it though. I made 9 yesterday, shooting for 8 today.

 

[TheValeYard]

Cod? Doc? Odc?

ACDC

 

[Deleted member 40252]

Do you have real OCD or self-diagnosed like tiktok foids who collect mental disorders like if they were pokemon cards?

 

[Hoppipolla]

Even i have severe OCD i keep getting repetitive thoughts and no matter what ever i do they keep repeating and i find a solution to problem inside my mind and it keeps repeating again and again because of these thoughts i failed in more than 3 subjects in my exams as i keep on getting these thoughts at the time of studying. Thoughts are about my future like something bad happens to me related to woman. dont know what to do i still keep getting those thoughts

So the OCD "tells" you that if you don't repeat, something bad will happen in your future?

Similar to mine yeah. Mine is often related to religion and things like that.

It's like OCD will kind of tell you anything in order to make you repeat. I don't think it really minds what the "repeatable event" was or what it says to make you repeat it, as long as you do it.

I know from experience that giving in is never the solution.

I know how tough it can be having OCD. It's also important to keep it under control as best you can because it can worsen otherwise.

I've been diagnosed with it for 20 odd years. Mostly intrusive thoughts invading pleasant thoughts. It got better though with Prozac, booze and time (but I wouldn't reccommend booze 'cause I'm an alcoholic: basically an obsessive-compulsive drinker, so they're probably related).

Oh, do the thoughts make you want to repeat things and so on?

Also I'm sorry to hear you drink lots but that's good it's getting better. I'm actually somewhat intolerant to alcohol these days but I don't know why. I have scoliosis and I think it has caused me lots of issues.

Back when I could tolerate it I drank here and there. Do you find it relaxes you, helps you cope, and that kind of thing?

I used to use that effect of alcohol to get through blood tests sometimes (I'm scared of them!) as it works much better than diazepam!

 

[virginforlife]

So the OCD "tells" you that if you don't repeat, something bad will happen in your future?

Similar to mine yeah. Mine is often related to religion and things like that.

It's like OCD will kind of tell you anything in order to make you repeat. I don't think it really minds what the "repeatable event" was or what it says to make you repeat it, as long as you do it.

I know from experience that giving in is never the solution.

I know how tough it can be having OCD. It's also important to keep it under control as best you can because it can worsen otherwise.

Yeah I am trying my best to get rid of these thoughts, I used porn as an escape for these thoughts and I can never quit porn no matter how harder i try, This thoughts even make me more depressed , They are reduced right now a bit and i have to look forward to not get them again ever

 

[Hoppipolla]

Yeah I am trying my best to get rid of these thoughts, I used porn as an escape for these thoughts and I can never quit porn no matter how harder i try, This thoughts even make me more depressed , They are reduced right now a bit and i have to look forward to not get them again ever

Just as a warning... I really don't think you can get rid of the thoughts first.

Like... for example if I thought to myself "OK I'm going to do things that keep these thoughts away - I hope I never get them again!" then it would just make me more scared of them. I tend to refer to that as "running away" from OCD.

Instead I find the way to do it (in my own experience at least) is to find ways to not do as they say. So you get the thought and you just keep going anyway. Now of course that's not necessarily easy and it can take strategies and time but... then you become less scared of them and eventually they start to decrease in number and quieten too.

Can I ask - is your OCD based on religion or something like that? In my case I think I realise that thoughts can't hurt me or anyone, so my OCD kind of tells me it's God or something like that so it sounds more possible.

 

[virginforlife]

Just as a warning... I really don't think you can get rid of the thoughts first.

Like... for example if I thought to myself "OK I'm going to do things that keep these thoughts away - I hope I never get them again!" then it would just make me more scared of them. I tend to refer to that as "running away" from OCD.

Instead I find the way to do it (in my own experience at least) is to find ways to not do as they say. So you get the thought and you just keep going anyway. Now of course that's not necessarily easy and it can take strategies and time but... then you become less scared of them and eventually they start to decrease in number and quieten too.

Can I ask - is your OCD based on religion or something like that? In my case I think I realise that thoughts can't hurt me or anyone, so my OCD kind of tells me it's God or something like that so it sounds more possible.

My thoughts are about if incase i get married(which i dont want to) what if my wife cheats on me and what if I angrily say her to fuck him itself as she was hanging out with him, and she starts going out with him because i told her to fuck him itself and i tell that i just told u that because u r going out with him and talking to him" these thoughts sound weird but i get these thoughts i am afraid that incase if i get married my wife will talk to other guys and cheats on me and if i say something to her something like go and have sex with those itself if u want to talk to them. and i get thoughts like this and i cant get rid of them no matter whatever i do i cant get rid of them. it sounds weird but its true. do these kind of stuff really happens in real life or are these my head messing up with me?

 

[Hoppipolla]

My thoughts are about if incase i get married(which i dont want to) what if my wife cheats on me and what if I angrily say her to fuck him itself as she was hanging out with him, and she starts going out with him because i told her to fuck him itself and i tell that i just told u that because u r going out with him and talking to him" these thoughts sound weird but i get these thoughts i am afraid that incase if i get married my wife will talk to other guys and cheats on me and if i say something to her something like go and have sex with those itself if u want to talk to them. and i get thoughts like this and i cant get rid of them no matter whatever i do i cant get rid of them. it sounds weird but its true. do these kind of stuff really happens in real life or are these my head messing up with me?

That's very hypothetical!

I mean, it's one thing to be concerned about that hypothetical scenario but... why would you think that repeating things now will affect its likelihood?

Like... what mechanism leads from repeating an act now to stopping that event from happening?

 

[Glerforpus]

Sometimes I think I have ocd but then I remember I’m probably just a weirdo

 

[virginforlife]

That's very hypothetical!

I mean, it's one thing to be concerned about that hypothetical scenario but... why would you think that repeating things now will affect its likelihood?

Like... what mechanism leads from repeating an act now to stopping that event from happening?

i sent u in dm

 

[Emba]

ACDC

Have a drink on me

 

[Hoppipolla]

I was thinking about OCD for quite a while again tonight. My theory is that it stems from a lack of confidence in your own actions.

eg you feel alone, rejected, shamed, something like that.

Therefore you hyper-analyse everything you do. "Surely I must be doing something wrong!"

So then everything kind of "feels" wrong and you feel you should repeat it.

And then you kind of subconsciously make up reasons to repeat it.

And... that's OCD, I think.

Sorry for the thinking out loud!

 

[BornToLose]

I really recommend the book Brain Lock by Jeffrey M. Schwartz. It helped me massively.

 

[Nemesis]

Are you fine now?

 

[Hoppipolla]

Are you fine now?

No I've had this darn thing for 5 years!

Maybe I should try CBT. My natural strategies to cope with it / combat it are pretty similar to CBT anyway, I think.

 

[BornToLose]

No I've had this darn thing for 5 years!

Maybe I should try CBT. My natural strategies to cope with it / combat it are pretty similar to CBT anyway, I think.

Like I said you gotta read Brain Lock. But also ERP (exposure and response prevention) is the main treatment these days. Also Prozac helped me.

 

[LesscoBlob]

To be fair I think a lot of them might have BPD, lol

Many mental conditions I am not really convinced exist and are just ways for NT normies to label people who don't think like them.

My OCD is definitely real. In late 2017 I was so bad I went to the emergency room once (because I couldn't take it, basically) and got saved by my parents another time (they put me up for a month while I got my head from 0% to 5%, heh).

These days it's much better. Even by the start of 2018 it had improved quite a lot due to me starting to develop some coping strategies.

It's a horrible condition but I'm not sure if I'd rather have depression because that can lead suicide.

Basically all women have BPD

 

[Hoppipolla]

Basically all women have BPD

Also they're pretty much all naturally NEETs and childlike, but they get caught by men so it never really impacts them.

Whereas the odd "manchild" is fixated on because he has nobody coming to save him.

 

[LesscoBlob]

Also they're pretty much all naturally NEETs and childlike, but they get caught by men so it never really impacts them.

Whereas the odd "manchild" is fixated on because he has nobody coming to save him.

100% true. Imagine being a 30+ year old and crying multiple times a month.

 

[Nemesis]

No I've had this darn thing for 5 years!

Maybe I should try CBT. My natural strategies to cope with it / combat it are pretty similar to CBT anyway, I think.

I wish you that you will get well!

 

[I.N.C.E.L.S. Boss]

constant battle against instrusive thoughts, don't know if it's same as OCD

 

[doomed 7]

play chess for distraction

 

[Hoppipolla]

I wish you that you will get well!

Thanks

It's definitely a big challenge and I have ups and downs but I think slowly it's improving.

 

[Monke]

So you step on a crack in the pavement and it tells you that unless you go back and step on it again then some random bad thing will happen.

Yes. I have this.

Touch that random object exactly 81 times OR ELSE! Feels like internalised bully.

Its getting better with time

 

[Hoppipolla]

Yes. I have this.

Touch that random object exactly 81 times OR ELSE! Feels like internalised bully.

Its getting better with time

Yeah it really does feel like a bully/abuser inside your own head.

So strange that the brain can do this.

Luckily I manage to stop myself before the high numbers now but yeah at my worst back in 2017 I would find myself doing things really high numbers of times >.<