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Cope NOFAP EXPERIMENT: My testosterone DROPPED after 90 days of nofap!

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Before 90 days of nofap

free test: 10.847 ng/dL (calculated)
estrogen: 37 pg/mL

After 90 days of nofap

free test: 6.2564 ng/dL
estrogen: 31 pg/mL

Unfortunately I was retarded and asked for free test instead of total test the second time, fortunately I saw free test too the first time. The idea was to see my total test though but I guess this will do for now. I would do both but its expensive as fuck (older clinic was closed) so I couldn't measure my DHT.

Anyway, as you can see, both test and estrogen dropped, but while estrogen dropped a little (about 16%) the testosterone dropped significantly (42%)

Basically I went from "very pathetic" levels to "consider suicide" levels.

This is the power of nofap JFL!

This is how it went:
I started at 01/07/20
  • 8 days of nofap: It is too easy
  • 9 days of nofap: thinking about sex a lot while in bed, hoping to fuck escorts
  • 11 days of nofap: thinking I was getting more optimistic about personal projects due to nofap, probably a cope
  • 16 days of nofap: waking up in the morning with a giga boner, still thinking about fucking escorts, I often visited escort websites
  • 20 days of nofap: I noticed I was feeling really pissed off for no reason, thinking about dumb memories from years ago
  • 22 days of nofap: porn have an intense effect on me, if I watch a porn video, it 'lingers' in my head, making me think about it for a while
  • 23 days of nofap: the quality of my sleep decreased, I am sleeping less and waking up during the night sometimes
  • 25 days of nofap: so horny I woke up seriously thinking about messaging girls I know hitting on them like a dumb sperg
  • 41 days of nofap: started to get boners during the day for no reason, not even watching porn or thinking about sex
  • 45 days of nofap: started obsessing over a milf escort in particular, thinking about her every single day, especially after waking up
  • 47 days of nofap: the effects of the milf escort diminished, and I stopped caring about her little by little
  • 54 days of nofap: thoughts started to become more erotic than images, I am now getting boners with thoughts easily and porn seems boring
  • 55 days of nofap: the dickpill killed me, I saw a thread on lookism about how easy it is to get sex with a big dick, and I was never the same ever since. This killed my libido completely
  • 61 days of nofap: I noticed how easy nofap became after the dickpill, I just can't feel horny anymore, I hate how the world works, how picky women are... how unfair it is that a man can simply show his bulge and fuck sexy girls while I have been working hard on myself for so many years and can't even lose my virginity
  • 63 days of nofap: sex does not exist for me anymore... I don't think about it. Stopped getting erections in the morning for a few days. I want validation more than sex, if I can't have validation, fucking an escort is pointless... I just can't enjoy it
  • 75 days of nofap: started to recover little by little, but still lower than in the beginning
  • 76 days of nofap: I took a selfie in the shower in the morning, and dear lord I looked like a fucking ogre, even worse than normally. I couldn't stop thinking about how subhuman I looked
  • 78 days of nofap: for the first time in my life, I had nocturnal emission (aka wet dream) I didn't even know back then that my body could do this. I had an erotic dream about humping some bitch I know on bed, JFL
  • 83 days of nofap: feeling kind of depressed, I realized that nofap doesn't do shit about depression
  • 90 days of nofap: no super powers, not much different than fapping once a week (although it can help men with ED)
TL;DR: nofap doesn't work, its all cope. And it might makes things even worse.
 
no fap made me feel like shit, porn and cooming is nesscessary for incels, living life like a sexless completely deprived of sexual pleasure is stupid
 
curryZoomercoomer said:
no fap made me feel like shit, porn and cooming is nesscessary for incels, living life like a sexless completely deprived of sexual pleasure is stupid
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The only question I have is how frequent fapping must be to be optimal. I think fapping every day is too much and it kills your dick, maybe 1~3 times per week is ideal
 
I'm not laughing at you but laughing at the fact that I easily thought that would happen to me if I tried nofap. Especially the horny part because I do take one day a week I take a break, which is on a Saturday, and when I take that one day to not fap, it's torture. I can't imagine doing that for days, weeks, months.
 
watcher said:
The only question I have is how frequent fapping must be to be optimal. I think fapping every day is too much and it kills your dick, maybe 1~3 times per week is ideal
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Maybe another experiment, the Ideal is seeing an escort once every month. Maybe using an onhole is a good idea (onahole = pocket pussy but realistic)
 
watcher said:
The only question I have is how frequent fapping must be to be optimal. I think fapping every day is too much and it kills your dick, maybe 1~3 times per week is ideal
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Kills it how?
 
Guykild said:
Kills it how?
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You lose hardness in your erections and fapping become less pleasurable as well, bot physically and psychologically.
 
Idk about my test levels but I was able to jack off with proper ejaculations for a good 6 times in a row with no breaks after I gsve up. I went close to 6 months.
Guykild said:
Kills it how?
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Limp looking dick and poor cum output.
 
watcher said:
You lose hardness in your erections and fapping become less pleasurable as well, bot physically and psychologically.
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Hasn't happened to me yet and I've been doing it at quite literal random times where I can go a day without or go a day fapping over 5 times and it didn't mess with hardness or pleasure.

I've had times when I fapped and felt no pleasure but I've figured out the issue. I was fapping to the same thing I enjoyed all the time. Seeing the same thing over again was just boring to my brain even though my dick enjoyed it. When I changed to something else the next time after no pleasure for about 4 days of the same thing, it was amazing again.
 
i'm on 8 months semen retention. I'm still depressed and socially anxious but i wont fap anymore or watch porn cause I feel like a cuck .I'm gonna try to get some jew pills to lower sex drive
 
Guykild said:
Hasn't happened to me yet and I've been doing it at quite literal random times where I can go a day without or go a day fapping over 5 times and it didn't mess with hardness or pleasure.

I've had times when I fapped and felt no pleasure but I've figured out the issue. I was fapping to the same thing I enjoyed all the time. Seeing the same thing over again was just boring to my brain even though my dick enjoyed it. When I changed to something else the next time after no pleasure for about 4 days of the same thing, it was amazing again.
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Give it time and you'll see
 
You peeked though. I can't say if your t-levels would go down if you abstained 100%, but peeking and edging affects your streak alot. When i abstained 100% i got extremely horny and got an instant boner at day 115 when i watched a video. The amount of testosterone needed to get an erection is really low.
 
Time waster said:
i'm on 8 months semen retention. I'm still depressed and socially anxious but i wont fap anymore or watch porn cause I feel like a cuck .I'm gonna try to get some jew pills to lower sex drive
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thats big time cucking u'll become a tranny if u lower ur sex drive just fap a couple times a week like three and see a hooker (whore)
 
Nofap is a hell of a journey, and I guess it just impacts everyone differently.

Personally I am on day 9, and am having bouts of lethargy, but that's all.

Definitely have more focus, and sometimes when I get hard I edge myself for like 30 seconds using oneitis posted pics, and then I'm fine.

Also feel that my standards are lowering, which is a good thing, I can walk around past girls who I would have called ugly before, and now think yeah I would fuck her.

Hoping the focus increases a lot more as time goes on
 
wasted12years said:
You peeked though. I can't say if your t-levels would go down if you abstained 100%, but peeking and edging affects your streak alot. When i abstained 100% i got extremely horny and got an instant boner at day 115 when i watched a video. The amount of testosterone needed to get an erection is really low.
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It has been proven that watching porn increases testosterone temporarily
 
Okey whatever, Now convert a coomer addict to porn again , and kys plz
 
soymonkcel said:
No only you had a nocturnal emission, but you had it most probably because:

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If you didn't do that, you would be doing better. Edging and peeking already release T, dopamine and even cFos, and can make you feel lethargic in the end.

Still, it's different for everyone I guess.
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The edging I do is really fast, and not for more than 30 seconds, on and off, sort of like HIIT.

The thing is doing that releases a lot of pent up anger for me, but I don't THINK I'm getting the dopamine part, maybe u r right and their levels do drop a bit though
 
soymonkcel said:
Edging and peeking already release T, dopamine and even cFos, and can make you feel lethargic in the end.
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I remember when i peeked right before going to bed on a long streak. I then woke up 1am extremely horny, shaking and just had to turn on my PC and relapse because i couldn't stop thinking about fapping. Too bad i had to wage slave in the morning, it ruined my whole week.
 
The only benefits nofap has are the ones the placebo effect gives you. The dumber you are, the better it'll work. That's just how it is. It can even help some people discover that they are fakcels.
 
NOFAP is a (((golbal))) conspiracy trying to turn Incels into trannies
 
Everyone copes how he wants
 
Currently on day one of no fap. This is the farthest ive ever got before JFL.
 
dirtykombatcel said:
The only benefits nofap has are the ones the placebo effect gives you. The dumber you are, the better it'll work. That's just how it is. It can even help some people discover that they are fakcels.
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The only placebo effect of nofap is female attraction. It can be useful for people with erectile dysfunction. It's in no way healthy for 9 year old kids to discover porn on their phones and get addicted early on, it's way easier today because everyone has access to it.
 
NOFAP = COPE
 
dirtykombatcel said:
The only benefits nofap has are the ones the placebo effect gives you. The dumber you are, the better it'll work. That's just how it is. It can even help some people discover that they are fakcels.
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Yeah there are some dumbass Chads who go like "nofap made me hornier so I talked to women and got laid wow"
Basically they didn't have sex before because they didn't even try
 
watcher said:
Yeah there are some dumbass Chads who go like "nofap made me hornier so I talked to women and got laid wow"
Basically they didn't have sex before because they didn't even try
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The only imaginable benefit something like nofap could have is making you occasionally lowinhib. That doesn't help if you're not Chad. Women want only attractive men to be lowinhib.
 
Keep doing nofap while chad creampies girls daily.
 
Fapping is bad, but no fap is even worse. The only way to keep optimal levels of testosterone is a healthy and constant sex life with a woman, which is something we'll never have.
 
It has always been said, "If you don't use it, you will lose it." Jfl at no fap copers. Only legit way to increase your Testosterone Is injection
 
Uglyme said:
Fapping is bad, but no fap is even worse. The only way to keep optimal levels of testosterone is a healthy and constant sex life with a woman, which is something we'll never have.
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Your test levels dropped probably because of other factors, nofap is partially a cope but it won't lower your T levels. And for the nofap copers, just fap once or twice a week and cut the porn off and you'll get the same benefits, no need to abstain from masturbation indefinitely.
 
Captvic said:
It has always been said, "If you don't use it, you will lose it." Jfl at no fap copers. Only legit way to increase your Testosterone Is injection
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There are some rare herbs and shit that works too but only injecting will make a really big difference.
npcel said:
Well I'm over 30 too.. he should start lifting asap
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I've been lifting for many years.
Completely over for me
 
watcher said:
Before 90 days of nofap

free test: 10.847 ng/dL (calculated)
estrogen: 37 pg/mL

After 90 days of nofap

free test: 6.2564 ng/dL
estrogen: 31 pg/mL

Unfortunately I was retarded and asked for free test instead of total test the second time, fortunately I saw free test too the first time. The idea was to see my total test though but I guess this will do for now. I would do both but its expensive as fuck (older clinic was closed) so I couldn't measure my DHT.

Anyway, as you can see, both test and estrogen dropped, but while estrogen dropped a little (about 16%) the testosterone dropped significantly (42%)

Basically I went from "very pathetic" levels to "consider suicide" levels.

This is the power of nofap JFL!

This is how it went:
I started at 01/07/20
  • 8 days of nofap: It is too easy
  • 9 days of nofap: thinking about sex a lot while in bed, hoping to fuck escorts
  • 11 days of nofap: thinking I was getting more optimistic about personal projects due to nofap, probably a cope
  • 16 days of nofap: waking up in the morning with a giga boner, still thinking about fucking escorts, I often visited escort websites
  • 20 days of nofap: I noticed I was feeling really pissed off for no reason, thinking about dumb memories from years ago
  • 22 days of nofap: porn have an intense effect on me, if I watch a porn video, it 'lingers' in my head, making me think about it for a while
  • 23 days of nofap: the quality of my sleep decreased, I am sleeping less and waking up during the night sometimes
  • 25 days of nofap: so horny I woke up seriously thinking about messaging girls I know hitting on them like a dumb sperg
  • 41 days of nofap: started to get boners during the day for no reason, not even watching porn or thinking about sex
  • 45 days of nofap: started obsessing over a milf escort in particular, thinking about her every single day, especially after waking up
  • 47 days of nofap: the effects of the milf escort diminished, and I stopped caring about her little by little
  • 54 days of nofap: thoughts started to become more erotic than images, I am now getting boners with thoughts easily and porn seems boring
  • 55 days of nofap: the dickpill killed me, I saw a thread on lookism about how easy it is to get sex with a big dick, and I was never the same ever since. This killed my libido completely
  • 61 days of nofap: I noticed how easy nofap became after the dickpill, I just can't feel horny anymore, I hate how the world works, how picky women are... how unfair it is that a man can simply show his bulge and fuck sexy girls while I have been working hard on myself for so many years and can't even lose my virginity
  • 63 days of nofap: sex does not exist for me anymore... I don't think about it. Stopped getting erections in the morning for a few days. I want validation more than sex, if I can't have validation, fucking an escort is pointless... I just can't enjoy it
  • 75 days of nofap: started to recover little by little, but still lower than in the beginning
  • 76 days of nofap: I took a selfie in the shower in the morning, and dear lord I looked like a fucking ogre, even worse than normally. I couldn't stop thinking about how subhuman I looked
  • 78 days of nofap: for the first time in my life, I had nocturnal emission (aka wet dream) I didn't even know back then that my body could do this. I had an erotic dream about humping some bitch I know on bed, JFL
  • 83 days of nofap: feeling kind of depressed, I realized that nofap doesn't do shit about depression
  • 90 days of nofap: no super powers, not much different than fapping once a week (although it can help men with ED)
TL;DR: nofap doesn't work, its all cope. And it might makes things even worse.
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Did sexual transmutation work?
 
There are alot more factors that go into T than not jerking off
 
Copexodius Maximus said:
basically, have more motivation to do stuff in life.
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Definitely not, I can barely push myself into doing things, even after 80+ days. It changed nothing about my motivation, but I have good discipline so its no big deal.
 
watcher said:
Before 90 days of nofap

free test: 10.847 ng/dL (calculated)
estrogen: 37 pg/mL

After 90 days of nofap

free test: 6.2564 ng/dL
estrogen: 31 pg/mL

Unfortunately I was retarded and asked for free test instead of total test the second time, fortunately I saw free test too the first time. The idea was to see my total test though but I guess this will do for now. I would do both but its expensive as fuck (older clinic was closed) so I couldn't measure my DHT.

Anyway, as you can see, both test and estrogen dropped, but while estrogen dropped a little (about 16%) the testosterone dropped significantly (42%)

Basically I went from "very pathetic" levels to "consider suicide" levels.

This is the power of nofap JFL!

This is how it went:
I started at 01/07/20
  • 8 days of nofap: It is too easy
  • 9 days of nofap: thinking about sex a lot while in bed, hoping to fuck escorts
  • 11 days of nofap: thinking I was getting more optimistic about personal projects due to nofap, probably a cope
  • 16 days of nofap: waking up in the morning with a giga boner, still thinking about fucking escorts, I often visited escort websites
  • 20 days of nofap: I noticed I was feeling really pissed off for no reason, thinking about dumb memories from years ago
  • 22 days of nofap: porn have an intense effect on me, if I watch a porn video, it 'lingers' in my head, making me think about it for a while
  • 23 days of nofap: the quality of my sleep decreased, I am sleeping less and waking up during the night sometimes
  • 25 days of nofap: so horny I woke up seriously thinking about messaging girls I know hitting on them like a dumb sperg
  • 41 days of nofap: started to get boners during the day for no reason, not even watching porn or thinking about sex
  • 45 days of nofap: started obsessing over a milf escort in particular, thinking about her every single day, especially after waking up
  • 47 days of nofap: the effects of the milf escort diminished, and I stopped caring about her little by little
  • 54 days of nofap: thoughts started to become more erotic than images, I am now getting boners with thoughts easily and porn seems boring
  • 55 days of nofap: the dickpill killed me, I saw a thread on lookism about how easy it is to get sex with a big dick, and I was never the same ever since. This killed my libido completely
  • 61 days of nofap: I noticed how easy nofap became after the dickpill, I just can't feel horny anymore, I hate how the world works, how picky women are... how unfair it is that a man can simply show his bulge and fuck sexy girls while I have been working hard on myself for so many years and can't even lose my virginity
  • 63 days of nofap: sex does not exist for me anymore... I don't think about it. Stopped getting erections in the morning for a few days. I want validation more than sex, if I can't have validation, fucking an escort is pointless... I just can't enjoy it
  • 75 days of nofap: started to recover little by little, but still lower than in the beginning
  • 76 days of nofap: I took a selfie in the shower in the morning, and dear lord I looked like a fucking ogre, even worse than normally. I couldn't stop thinking about how subhuman I looked
  • 78 days of nofap: for the first time in my life, I had nocturnal emission (aka wet dream) I didn't even know back then that my body could do this. I had an erotic dream about humping some bitch I know on bed, JFL
  • 83 days of nofap: feeling kind of depressed, I realized that nofap doesn't do shit about depression
  • 90 days of nofap: no super powers, not much different than fapping once a week (although it can help men with ED)
TL;DR: nofap doesn't work, its all cope. And it might makes things even worse.
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This sounds more like the blackpills killed your testosterone and desire and at least for the latter it is also true for me. Even when there are impulses like "What a hot bitch", "wow, she is hot", "whoa, these tits" the excitement stops after 3 seconds completely because "only Chad" takes place instead.

Maybe desire and mental state can shape hormonal levels also like the reverse is true. Depression alone kills T, but you can also became depressed of low T. It is hard to say what is cause and what is effect.
Otherwise: When you need porn for a "high T" state, than maybe the lower T state is the real normal.
Mainländer said:
Gigachad.
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I have 6,33 as normal, measured in a time, where I didn't consider myself depressed (only anhedonic as always) . For me it is mysterious how highT dudes can be Incels, like it is for manlets and ethnics about tall dudes and whites.
 
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Nofap is an even bigger cope than mewing and that says a lot
 
watcher said:
Before 90 days of nofap

free test: 10.847 ng/dL (calculated)
estrogen: 37 pg/mL

After 90 days of nofap

free test: 6.2564 ng/dL
estrogen: 31 pg/mL

Unfortunately I was retarded and asked for free test instead of total test the second time, fortunately I saw free test too the first time. The idea was to see my total test though but I guess this will do for now. I would do both but its expensive as fuck (older clinic was closed) so I couldn't measure my DHT.

Anyway, as you can see, both test and estrogen dropped, but while estrogen dropped a little (about 16%) the testosterone dropped significantly (42%)

Basically I went from "very pathetic" levels to "consider suicide" levels.

This is the power of nofap JFL!

This is how it went:
I started at 01/07/20
  • 8 days of nofap: It is too easy
  • 9 days of nofap: thinking about sex a lot while in bed, hoping to fuck escorts
  • 11 days of nofap: thinking I was getting more optimistic about personal projects due to nofap, probably a cope
  • 16 days of nofap: waking up in the morning with a giga boner, still thinking about fucking escorts, I often visited escort websites
  • 20 days of nofap: I noticed I was feeling really pissed off for no reason, thinking about dumb memories from years ago
  • 22 days of nofap: porn have an intense effect on me, if I watch a porn video, it 'lingers' in my head, making me think about it for a while
  • 23 days of nofap: the quality of my sleep decreased, I am sleeping less and waking up during the night sometimes
  • 25 days of nofap: so horny I woke up seriously thinking about messaging girls I know hitting on them like a dumb sperg
  • 41 days of nofap: started to get boners during the day for no reason, not even watching porn or thinking about sex
  • 45 days of nofap: started obsessing over a milf escort in particular, thinking about her every single day, especially after waking up
  • 47 days of nofap: the effects of the milf escort diminished, and I stopped caring about her little by little
  • 54 days of nofap: thoughts started to become more erotic than images, I am now getting boners with thoughts easily and porn seems boring
  • 55 days of nofap: the dickpill killed me, I saw a thread on lookism about how easy it is to get sex with a big dick, and I was never the same ever since. This killed my libido completely
  • 61 days of nofap: I noticed how easy nofap became after the dickpill, I just can't feel horny anymore, I hate how the world works, how picky women are... how unfair it is that a man can simply show his bulge and fuck sexy girls while I have been working hard on myself for so many years and can't even lose my virginity
  • 63 days of nofap: sex does not exist for me anymore... I don't think about it. Stopped getting erections in the morning for a few days. I want validation more than sex, if I can't have validation, fucking an escort is pointless... I just can't enjoy it
  • 75 days of nofap: started to recover little by little, but still lower than in the beginning
  • 76 days of nofap: I took a selfie in the shower in the morning, and dear lord I looked like a fucking ogre, even worse than normally. I couldn't stop thinking about how subhuman I looked
  • 78 days of nofap: for the first time in my life, I had nocturnal emission (aka wet dream) I didn't even know back then that my body could do this. I had an erotic dream about humping some bitch I know on bed, JFL
  • 83 days of nofap: feeling kind of depressed, I realized that nofap doesn't do shit about depression
  • 90 days of nofap: no super powers, not much different than fapping once a week (although it can help men with ED)
TL;DR: nofap doesn't work, its all cope. And it might makes things even worse.
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Of course it dropped. Sex/ejaculation increases testosterone production. Also what escort where you obsessing over? Any names or a link?
 
UpsideDown said:
Your test levels dropped probably because of other factors, nofap is partially a cope but it won't lower your T levels. And for the nofap copers, just fap once or twice a week and cut the porn off and you'll get the same benefits, no need to abstain from masturbation indefinitely.
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This.

Completely denying the benefits of NoFap based on anecdotal experience is not a valid reason, but it is overblown and exaggerated for sure. Porn addiction IS real and it's been shown that porn addicts' brains respond in the same ways of those of drug addicts. So I think what as UpSideDown mentioned (and what I believe BOGART also said in one of his threads) is the best compromise.
 
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