Blackpill No such thing as a virgin "volcel"

[SuperMario64DS]

I honestly believe there is no such thing as a virgin volcel.

Human beings are such selfish, animalistic creatures that I don't believe there are any cases where a person, as a high schooler, college student, or young man would choose to stay single if they had the opportunity to date someone they were attracted to. Yes, after high school, college, whatever a person may become a priest, monk, or nun. But if that priest, monk, or nun could've dated someone in high school, college, whatever, they would have.

And at some point, no matter how religious the person is, sex will happen. It's inevitable. I've not met a single person, being fully genuine, who hasn't had sex in a relationship. Even a friend of mine who dated a girl for a week and not much more than that had a blowjob. Sure, I've met people who have "acted" for image purposes like they are pure, but no. When you press hard enough and they are willing to be honest, they will admit sex on at least one occassion.

It's over.

 

[Deleted member 22999]

This thread’ll get big

I agree tho ngl

 

[NEETard]

There is. The average male doesnt get girls begging for his cock. Yet the average male can get laid. If you are 5-6-7/10, avg height +, and cant get laid, you are volcel. You need to actually try though. I dont hate volcels tho if you choose to be virgin idc thats your problem

 

[SuperMario64DS]

There is. The average male doesnt get girls begging for his cock. Yet the average male can get laid. If you are 5-6-7/10, avg height +, and cant get laid, you are volcel. You need to actually try though. I dont hate volcels tho if you choose to be virgin idc thats your problem

No. The average male does not "get girls begging for his cock." But I'm telling you, men are so sexually pushed by their dick that I do not believe there is a case where a guy who could date a girl he's attracted to would refuse, and if they date, that sex won't happen at some point. It will. Again, not met a single couple or a person who has been in a relationship who, when we've been completely genuine, have chosen to be virgins.

Maybe there could hypothetically be a 5 that doesn't try hard enough such that he doesn't get a girl. But I'm telling you right now when I say this: women can tell how naturally attractive you are, no matter how much effort or lack of effort you put into it.

Motherfucker, I was recently rated by a few girls. From just shoulder pics alone, they could figure out how tall I was. Gross haircut, acne, and eyebrows aside.

 

[WØLF]

I've not met a single person, being fully genuine, who hasn't had sex in a relationship.

You're forgetting about all the tradthots that save themselves for gigachad

 

[NEETard]

No. The average male does not "get girls begging for his cock." But I'm telling you, men are so sexually pushed by their dick that I do not believe there is a case where a guy who could date a girl he's attracted to would refuse, and if they date, that sex won't happen at some point. It will. Again, not met a single couple or a person who has been in a relationship who, when we've been completely genuine, have chosen to be virgins.

Maybe there could hypothetically be a 5 that doesn't try hard enough such that he doesn't get a girl. But I'm telling you right now when I say this: women can tell how naturally attractive you are, no matter how much effort or lack of effort you put into it.

Motherfucker, I was recently rated by a few girls. From just shoulder pics alone, they could figure out how tall I was. Gross haircut, acne, and eyebrows aside.

So you didnt read a thing i said

 

[SuperMario64DS]

You're forgetting about all the tradthots that save themselves for gigachad

LMAO

Lies. Lies. Lies.

They may want to give that perception to people. But if a "trad" has been dating someone for any period of time, they will have sex. I speak as someone who was active in a couple of religious communities where we had "personal confessions" with each other. Every single couple or male that's been in a relationship I've met admits to it when you "want to be honest about your sins, your flaws."

So you didnt read a thing i said

I did. I posted my opinion. I disagree. Women have the ability to see past your character flaws and see whether you are naturally attractive or not, regardless if you don't care for yourself.

Rated by men and women online. Women have told me my height from just shoulder pics alone.

 

[WØLF]

They may want to give that perception to people. But if a "trad" has been dating someone for any period of time, they will have sex.

The vast majority of them lose their virginity during high school, college, or before but not all of them do

 

[NEETard]

I did. I posted my opinion. I disagree. Women have the ability to see past your character flaws and see whether you are naturally attractive or not, regardless if you don't care for yourself.

Rated by men and women online. Women have told me my height from just shoulder pics alone.

Ok...

 

[Pengwin]

For me as a man who loves and craves sex, I think its best that people don't have any sex until they're married. Sex doesn't come magically overnight, but if done correctly, it can be great.

 

[Deleted member 21883]

Religion doesn't have a patent on monogamy. Enforced monogamy will increase the markey value of suitors. Why is this so hard to comprehend? AKA sexual collective bargaining (refusal to marry nonvirgins), occupational liscensing (marriage papers) for sex. Of course I want love, not sex, but you have to combat the lowest common denominator.

 

[SuperMario64DS]

Religion doesn't have a patent on monogamy. Enforced monogamy will increase the markey value of suitors. Why is this so hard to comprehend? AKA sexual collective bargaining (refusal to marry nonvirgins), occupational liscensing (marriage papers) for sex. Of course I want love, not sex, but you have to combat the lowest common denominator.

It will. But people only act on base passions and nothing else. They see big boobies, vagina, lipstick, ooga booga, "Must hump the fucking shit out of it."

 

[AlexanderTheGreat11]

I remember a famous Chad who said he was a volcel , Tim Tebow

 

[SuperMario64DS]

I remember a famous Chad who said he was a volcel , Tim Tebow

He may be a volcel. Definitely not a "virgin" volcel.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat11]

He may be a volcel. Definitely not a "virgin" volcel.

Yeah , I never believed him

 

[Sheogorath]

I honestly believe there is no such thing as a virgin volcel.

Inceldom and volceldom are never absolute keep in mind. Everyone is a mix (even Chad who wets his dick every knight, because he's celibate relative to whichever foid he isn't currently fucking) and those who ID as one just predominantly relate that way.

Human beings are such selfish, animalistic creatures that I don't believe there are any cases where a person, as a high schooler, college student, or young man would choose to stay single if they had the opportunity to date someone they were attracted to.

So you're thinking in the case of "it's only volcel if you turned down an actual opportunity" combined with "and you WANTED that opportunity"?

That's a standard criticism but volcel definitions are often not that specific.

I still think it's possible though. You can have mixed feelings. Like "I want to fuck this girl but I'm afraid she has HIV or will try to get pregnant and take child support or has a murderously jealous dad/ex"

Yes, after high school, college, whatever a person may become a priest, monk, or nun. But if that priest, monk, or nun could've dated someone in high school, college, whatever, they would have.

There are presumably some who aspire to be priests even in elementary/HS, not all choose that after college.

And at some point, no matter how religious the person is, sex will happen. It's inevitable. I've not met a single person, being fully genuine, who hasn't had sex in a relationship.

Many volcels probably just avoid relationships to avoid temptation.

Even a friend of mine who dated a girl for a week and not much more than that had a blowjob.
When you press hard enough and they are willing to be honest, they will admit sex on at least one occassion.

BJs aren't sex, sex is when the entire glans of your dick has gone past the labia minora and rubbed against at least one vagina wall and ejaculated into it.

 

[Lifeisbullshit95]

TESLA.

 

[thePhantom]

"they were attracted to".

>People who reject fucking those they are not attracted to are volcels.
>Femcels legitimately exist.

Pick one.

 

[SuperMario64DS]

Stay on pace with my argument: My argument isn't "volcel." There are non-virgin volcels. I'm saying there aren't "virgin volcels." Big difference.

Inceldom and volceldom are never absolute keep in mind. Everyone is a mix (even Chad who wets his dick every knight, because he's celibate relative to whichever foid he isn't currently fucking) and those who ID as one just predominantly relate that way.


So you're thinking in the case of "it's only volcel if you turned down an actual opportunity" combined with "and you WANTED that opportunity"?

B.S.

Incel = no matter what you do, you are unfuckable. Unlovable.
Volcel = one who can choose to have sex, but chooses not to.

My argument is this: If you are a virgin past high school or college, you aren't voluntarily celibate. You are involuntarily celibate. You can be a volcel after you've had sex / relationship. But here's the thing: Either you will want to try it to see what it's like, or you'll eventually do it if you are attracted to a girl long enough. Hormones fuck your rational thinking up and it will eventually happen.

That's a standard criticism but volcel definitions are often not that specific.

I still think it's possible though. You can have mixed feelings. Like "I want to fuck this girl but I'm afraid she has HIV or will try to get pregnant and take child support or has a murderously jealous dad/ex"

If you are at a point that you are dating a woman who has AIDs or have to pay for child support, you are beta-buxxing.

Still, emotions are more potent than child support or a muderously jealous dad / ex. And the chances of being found out are slim.

There are presumably some who aspire to be priests even in elementary/HS, not all choose that after college.

Even so, men will want to try dating to see what they are leaving behind. And that leads to sex. Trust me. I was someone who was considering Priesthood like back in 6th grade, and even then I thought "I want to date some girls to see what it's like." Trust me. I didn't go down that path (I would've been a terrible Priest), but it is what it is.

Many volcels probably just avoid relationships to avoid temptation.

Here's the underlying presumption: that religion is something that is outside of the blackpill, that it doesn't fall under. If you are truly blackpilled, you would know that religion is a manifestation of the blackpill created to support the species so they don't all kill themselves. Those who are generally attracted to religion in large strides such that they want to be celibate and are a virgin, such that they are drug free and are drug free completely, such that they don't drink and never have gotten drunk, are usually really miserable and depressed people (read: incels), and thus, will usually never have the opportunity to do such an option in the first place. Those who are chads and are drawn to religion for whatever reason will have already fucked, already drunk, already done drugs before becoming a priest, monk, etc. but move on to something greater.

St. Francis of Assisi was an avid romancer who slept around continuously and drank excessively before he became a monk. So was St. Augustine. So was St. Mary of Egypt. So was even Martin Luther. So was the fucking Buddha; he was a rich prince who partied all the time until he left his life behind for something greater.

BJs aren't sex, sex is when the entire glans of your dick has gone past the labia minora and rubbed against at least one vagina wall and ejaculated into it.

I never claimed BJs are sex. I implied it's ascension. If you get a voluntary BJ from a girl, you leave inceldom. Period.

"they were attracted to".

>People who reject fucking those they are not attracted to are volcels.
>Femcels legitimately exist.

Pick one.

No, it's not "volcel." That's not my argument. My argument is "virgin volcel."
I'll modify my argument.

"There is no such thing as a virgin volcel past college."

 

[Sheogorath]

Incel = no matter what you do, you are unfuckable. Unlovable.

Unprovable and merely hypothetical since "no matter what you do" can't actually be tested since you're literally saying every possible thing. It's a theory based on confidence in understanding human nature, but we should not be overconfident in absolutes just because we're right 99.9% of the time.

Volcel = one who can choose to have sex, but chooses not to.

I honestly think there's some 90 year old on her deathbed who wants to be full of teen/20s/30s/40s incel cock. All occupants here are basically volcel because we don't put effort in that avenue.

The ACTUAL/MOSTEST incels are basically like the non-chad 80 year olds suffering mental and physical decline, dying within months.

My argument is this: If you are a virgin past high school or college, you aren't voluntarily celibate. You are involuntarily celibate.

I think Tim Tebow is a liar but what he claims is still hypothetically possible.

You can be a volcel after you've had sex / relationship.
But here's the thing:
Either you will want to try it to see what it's like,
or you'll eventually do it if you are attracted to a girl long enough.
Hormones fuck your rational thinking up and it will eventually happen.

Wanting to try it to see what it's like doesn't mean you'll actually choose that, if that curiosity is outweighed by other concerns.

Hormones fuck up thoughts to different degrees.

men will want to try dating to see what they are leaving behind.
And that leads to sex.
Trust me.

No, I don't trust you, because a lot of dating simply does not lead to sex. In many cases foids will not even kiss you on first date and shut you down for future ones.

I was someone who was considering Priesthood like back in 6th grade, and even then I thought "I want to date some girls to see what it's like."
Trust me.
I didn't go down that path (I would've been a terrible Priest), but it is what it is.

Your personal experience does not dictate all people's, this is being silly.

Yeah a lot of guys are prob similar to you but why make absolute rulings?

If you get a voluntary BJ from a girl, you leave inceldom. Period.

Escorting is voluntary.

"There is no such thing as a virgin volcel past college."

Simply not provable.

My guess is some members could disprove you by saying how close they got until they backed away, but that would break the rules to be that specific.

 

[nystagmuscel]

Volcel= cope