No, anime wasn't necessarily better back then.

[logician]

Fag shit has always existed in the Japanese animation industry, with supposedly avant-garde works such as 70s Kanashimi no Belladonna, which promotes sexual liberation and is a precursor of feminism, featuring images of sexual degeneracy such as bestiality and a protagonist who rebels against God who symbolizes patriarchy.
Nowadays, anime is mass-produced, so it's only logical that we should find more non-quality works and producers following specifications to appeal to a wide audience, but there are still gems here and there, and all it takes is a little in-depth research to filter them out of all this fast-food slop.

Example of garbage old anime :

Example of good new anime :

 

[logician]

Eighty-Six is a masterpiece too :


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4HlfCR2Wvk

 

[Regenerator]

I honestly prefer Anime made post 2000 to older Anime. Fight me

 

[logician]

I honestly prefer Anime made post 2000 to older Anime. Fight me

YOU SHOULD WATCH REDLINE

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuHozLGduKA

 

[HomicidalSuicidal88]

1990s anime was peak anime that when anime was original and good it was just was unique for the time

 

[AsakangaHalo]

random ova from 80's looks better than 99% of modern anime

 

[Fevet]

I honestly prefer Anime made post 2000 to older Anime. Fight me

My top 3 consists solely of post 2000 animes

 

[Regenerator]

My top 3 consists solely of post 2000 animes

The only Anime in my top 10 made pre 2000 is Neon Genesis Evangelion.

 

[SubhumanGamer]

Fag

 

[logician]

1990s anime was peak anime that when anime was original and good it was just was unique for the time

So original that we find the same battle shonen, mecha, harem, and school romance in 90s anime. There are works that marked this generation, but to say they were all innovative is a mistake.

random ova from 80's looks better than 99% of modern anime

random ova 80s :

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Gj9N7Ude8


modern anime :

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzs5Lszo-4E

 

[AsakangaHalo]

So original that we find the same battle shonen, mecha, harem, and school romance in 90s anime. There are works that marked this generation, but to say they were all innovative is a mistake.



random ova 80s :

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Gj9N7Ude8


modern anime :

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzs5Lszo-4E

random ova: better art direction, more organic colors

 

[weaselbomber]

Nowadays, anime is mass-produced, so it's only logical that we should find more non-quality works and producers following specifications to appeal to a wide audience, but there are still gems here and there

that doesn't justify how shit everything is now (though there are some good shows like you've said)
compare shows released from 2010-2014 and shows released from 2020-2024
Quality has *objectively* decreased.

 

[logician]

random ova: better art direction, more organic colors

Back then, they had more constraints in terms of production techniques, since they had to draw practically everything by hand on cells, and this resulted in more simplified aesthetic choices or a restricted use of colors and textures.

Today, art direction in Japanese animation is generally much more varied and refined. Directors can explore a wider range of visual styles

 

[logician]

that doesn't justify how shit everything is now (though there are some good shows like you've said)
compare shows released from 2010-2014 and shows released from 2020-2024
Quality has *objectively* decreased.

The fact that there are a lot more slop anime means that consumers have a distorted opinion of modern anime, focusing on every latest release instead of good anime that came out recently, which is still as good as ever.
I can assure you that I can find garbage anime just as well in the 2010s as in the 90s, they're just less numerous because the industry wasn't so developed to release a multitude of anime every year, they're just more visible today.

 

[weaselbomber]

The fact that there are a lot more slop anime means that consumers have a distorted opinion of modern anime, focusing on every latest release instead of good anime that came out recently, which is still as good as ever.

You don't seem to understand what I'm trying to get at. I'm not saying that every show from before now was great, that's a genuinely retarded opinion, what I mean to say is that I watch seasonals every year and I can tell you diamonds in the rough are very few and far between whereas in the early to mid 2010s there was more quality per capita, compared to now. 2011 had Madoka Magica, Steins;Gate, Nichijou, Usagi Drop, Mawaru Penguindrum, Fate/Zero, and I'm not including sequels. Which year in the 2020s has had such levels of quality? There has not been any. There has been an objective decline in the quality of shows (which does NOT mean every show is shit, or that every show before was a masterpiece) from there to now. And with Sony trying to acquire Kadokawa and trying to grab the anime industry by the balls, it will only get worse.

 

[yot123]

i have great idea. revolutionary even. how about stop watching trash?

 

[logician]

You don't seem to understand what I'm trying to get at. I'm not saying that every show from before now was great, that's a genuinely retarded opinion, what I mean to say is that I watch seasonals every year and I can tell you diamonds in the rough are very few and far between whereas in the early to mid 2010s there was more quality per capita, compared to now. 2011 had Madoka Magica, Steins;Gate, Nichijou, Usagi Drop, Mawaru Penguindrum, Fate/Zero, and I'm not including sequels. Which year in the 2020s has had such levels of quality? There has not been any. There has been an objective decline in the quality of shows (which does NOT mean every show is shit, or that every show before was a masterpiece) from there to now. And with Sony trying to acquire Kadokawa and trying to grab the anime industry by the balls, it will only get worse.

If we focus on the figures, we can see that 100-150 animes series were released on average per year during the 2010-2014 period, compared with 150-200 animes between 2020 and 2024. This confirms my initial post where I said that there are more animes being produced so there's inevitably an increase in garbage anime being released to make a profit but that doesn't mean there's a reduction in the quality of the good anime being released. I can name some good 2020s anime too like Pluto , Vinland Saga , Frieren , 86 and Dandadan.

 

[logician]

i have great idea. revolutionary even. how about stop watching trash?

That's the point of this thread, to stop idealizing the past and only look for good animes whether it's from the past or today.

 

[Myst]

My top 3 consists solely of post 2000 animes

What are they?

 

[starystulejarz]

So original that we find the same battle shonen, mecha, harem, and school romance in 90s anime. There are works that marked this generation, but to say they were all innovative is a mistake.



random ova 80s :

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Gj9N7Ude8


modern anime :

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzs5Lszo-4E

My brain look at the modern anime and scream: it's so fake, it's not real. Old anime had a way better contrast, colors, shadows, shading and warm bloom, and also a style full of details with prelonged animations that they had to make manually or with help of transparent pre-painted backgrounds that could be moved like in Akira, new ones lacks all of that and are either super flat or super colourful it's not organic it's completely artificial. Same thing happened to the video games we had amazing deep shadows with great contrast and shading (F.E.A.R, Stalker, Riddick, Doom 3, Splinter Cell, Thief) now it's a blurry mess with no art direction

 

[weaselbomber]

if we focus on the figures, we can see that 100-150 animes series were released on average per year during the 2010-2014 period, compared with 150-200 animes between 2020 and 2024. This confirms my initial post where I said that there are more animes being produced so there's inevitably an increase in garbage anime being released to make a profit but that doesn't mean there's a reduction in the quality of the good anime being released. I can name some good 2020s anime too like Pluto , Vinland Saga , Frieren , 86 and Dandadan.

This posts confirms you're either really, really fucking retarded or unable to concede. You named four shows out of an entire decade, I named five out of a YEAR.

 

[logician]

My brain look at the modern anime and scream: it's so fake, it's not real. Old anime had a way better contrast, colors, shadows, shading and warm bloom, and also a style full of details with prelonged animations that they had to make manually or with help of transparent pre-painted backgrounds that could be moved like in Akira, new ones lacks all of that and are either super flat or super colourful it's not organic it's completely artificial. Same thing happened to the video games we had amazing deep shadows with great contrast and shading (F.E.A.R, Stalker, Riddick, Doom 3, Splinter Cell, Thief) now it's a blurry mess with no art direction

While I agree that some of the old animes were produced with an extremely high level of detail, but they were also limited by the scanning technology and by what could be rendered on screen, as well as by their own drawing capabilities. The good thing is that it's possible to find the original source and rescan it to release it in 4k or 8k etc...

And modern animation isn't flat. Studios uses CGI for smoother movements, more detailed backgrounds and more complex visual effects compared with the technical limitations of the 80s and 90s, which often led to awkward or funny scenes. Studios also use digital coloring, making it easier to create vibrant, dynamic images and the resolution is also much higher, giving greater clarity to the details of each image.

 

[logician]

This posts confirms you're either really, really fucking retarded or unable to concede. You named four shows out of an entire decade, I named five out of a YEAR.

When you run out of arguments, you resort to ad personam attacks. Overconsumption of a media, especially when its production is growing, leads to a biased opinion regarding the quantity of quality animes released

 

[EpicWizard]

I watch a lot of anime but new anime just isn't memorable at all imo. It all seems the same.

 

[VintageCarCoper]

I watch a lot of anime but new anime just isn't memorable at all imo. It all seems the same.

Yeah, I agree

 

[VintageCarCoper]

I watch a lot of anime but new anime just isn't memorable at all imo. It all seems the same.

Ever watch the 2003-2006 Teen Titans? I like that one.

 

[Fevet]

What are they?

Hxh, code geass and monster

 

[VintageCarCoper]

I watch a lot of anime but new anime just isn't memorable at all imo. It all seems the same.

Ever watch the 2003-2006 Teen Titans? I like that one.

DNRed me lol