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Theory Negative happiness and how people who dont experience it often mistake it for the real happiness

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While reading a book, i stumbled upon this term. Negative happiness and what it means. Its while being in pain or suffering feeling happy in moments of reliefs. Its not a real happiness, not by a long shot.

Like when you have an extreme toothache and when its extracted you feel happy because the pain has passed. This doesnt mean youre happy, it would be best if your tooth didnt ache in the first place, now you would have all of your teeth. But retards would say "good for you, youre not in pain anymore" while people with perfect healthy teeth dont walk around thinking "im so lucky and happy to have all my teeth healthy."

If negative happiness exists, then the opposite must be true, the positive suffering. People who have most of their biological and emotional needs fulfilled they are happy most of the time, but at moments shits happen and they can feel extreme pain or suffering. Thats the real life meant for a human and immeasurable times better than the negative happiness life. These people have no idea how lucky they are.

Guy who wrote that book, recalls his life during the WW2 while he was in concentration camp. At one point he remembered his wife. Not once he said "Oh man i wish i never had a wife because now she could be dead or worse" No, he recalled everything about her and moments with her and he remembered what is happiness and for what is worth living.

So Redditors and other fuckers who say bullshits like "at least you are not crippled" or "poor people are so lucky because they find happiness in small things" are totally wrong.

Good example of people using negative happiness as a cope are the hermits and the monks, both Buddhists and from Christianity. They deprive themselves of everything so they could fulfill their need for peace. They feel somewhat happy for not being under stress and thats it, still rich people who experience many goods and pleasures and some stress and loss, are miles more happier.

Conclusion. Fulfilling both physical and emotional needs and pleasures are extremely important, unnecessary, all tied up as a need not a want, for both motivation for survival and for having a decent happy life.

Imo a man needs to fulfill his biological, emotional and spiritual needs to be satisfied.

Food, sex, shelter for biological.

For emotional family of your own, wife and kids. To love and care for them and to be loved and cared in return. Living for someone external from you. Because if you live only for your own wellbeing and desire, if you die those desires die with you. So theres no imperative to fight to stay alive.

Spiritual, sense of purpose of your existence expanding beyond this lifetime. Life ends no matter what you do and to not suffer of existential crisis and lose motivation of being alive you need a meaning to your life greater than this life and greater than yourself. It could be religion, trying to improve humanity or leave something useful for the generations to come.
 
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There are infinite examples and analogies which confirm this. Like someone dying of hunger would feel really happy at the moment for a piece of stale bread, while some other can eat juicy burger and focus on other stuff, who is happer?

I often thought about how i dont desire many things in life, mostly peace and quiet. Thats because i never had that as i grew up in crazy turbulent abusive family and got filled with anxiety and depression. Now i realize thats all bullshit and rich and successful people gaslighting others into what is real happiness and how we are more happy because of small things, i wish the worst upon them.
 
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I don't think I have ever been truly happy in my life. I am only happy when I am gooning.
 
I don't think I have ever been truly happy in my life. I am only happy when I am gooning.
Same, you feel happy at that moment because youre fulfilling your sexual need for the moment. Yet the touch and emotional and love starvation stays, thats why porn and masturbation will never make us happy. Rolling in the bed with a girlfriend that loves you would.
 
Happiness is about getting what you want , doing what you want and Revel in it .
 
I don't think I have ever been truly happy in my life. I am only happy when I am gooning.
I wanna enlarge your avi on my PC screen and GOON ALL OVER IT tbh. :dafuckfeels:
 
Yep, I have chronic health issues that sometimes make life feel horrible, and when the pain stops I feel happy from relief. It’s not that the feeling of relief is great, it’s just that I feel so good in comparison due to how bad the other state is
 
Same, you feel happy at that moment because youre fulfilling your sexual need for the moment. Yet the touch and emotional and love starvation stays, thats why porn and masturbation will never make us happy. Rolling in the bed with a girlfriend that loves you would.
Its over :feelsrope:

I wanna enlarge your avi on my PC screen and GOON ALL OVER IT tbh. :dafuckfeels:
Based. I would post the sauce but I am too GrAY to do it yet unfortunately.
 
Happiness is about getting what you want , doing what you want and Revel in it .
Imo a man needs to fulfill his biological, emotional and spiritual needs to be satisfied.

Food, sex, shelter for biological.

For emotional family of your own, wife and kids. To love and care for them and to be loved and cared in return. Living for someone external from you. Because if you live only for your own wellbeing and desire, if you die they die with you. So theres no imperative to fight to stay alive.

Spiritual, sense of purpose of your existence expanding beyond this lifetime. Life ends no matter what you do and to not suffer of existential crisis and lose motivation of being alive you need a meaning to your life greater than this life and greater than yourself. It could be religion, trying to improve humanity or leave something useful for the generations to come.
 
Yep, I have chronic health issues that sometimes make life feel horrible, and when the pain stops I feel happy from relief. It’s not that the feeling of relief is great, it’s just that I feel so good in comparison due to how bad the other state is
:yes:Same for me.
 
This makes alot of sense, before i considered myself an incel i considered myself happy. But i wasn't really happy i just found ways to cope more often then not, occasionally the façade would drop and i'd cry to myself during the night. I was negatively happy coping with video games. I still have moments were i'm happy for the moment because I'm enjoying a game or I'm enjoying the gym but deep down i am sad miserable man.
 
This makes alot of sense, before i considered myself an incel i considered myself happy. But i wasn't really happy i just found ways to cope more often then not, occasionally the façade would drop and i'd cry to myself during the night. I was negatively happy coping with video games. I still have moments were i'm happy for the moment because I'm enjoying a game or I'm enjoying the gym but deep down i am sad miserable man.
Yeah, many dont realize this or simply gaslight and brush off our problems.
 

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