Nazis were not Socialists

[Caesercel]

Literally the first thing they did after gaining power was dismantle working class political movements. The poem is not kidding when it goes, "First they came for the communists". Infact nazis were in bed with the capitalist industrial powers of the time. The latter flocked to nazi support when the threat of a popular revolt as a result of economic crises and war became imminent.

 

[DarkStar]

This is massively incorrect, in Mein Kampf, Hitler speaks about the fact that Social Democrats & Communists subverted the trade union movement in order to disrupt the nation-states economic system.

They also did recognize the issue the capitalist class brings, due to the fact that they did not adhere to the most basic needs of them.

 

[Castaway]

They were against Marxist socialism and in favor of a genuine Germanic socialism. The reason for the purge of the labor movement was that it was filled to the brim with anti-national Jews, Soviet NKVD infiltrators, anarchists and Trotskyists. The use of established industry was out of necessity and pragmatism. Why destroy established German industry by completely nationalizing it and let the economy collapse? It was simply not possible, especially as Germany had to rearm for war, and quickly. That's why they chose to collaborate with industrialists who accepted the regulations and quotas imposed on them by the NS government as long as their assets were not confiscated. I don't see a problem with any of this, unless you are either a subversive marxist socialist who calls for self-destructive class warfare, or an economic liberal against any form of government intervention.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Literally the first thing they did after gaining power was dismantle working class political movements. The poem is not kidding when it goes, "First they came for the communists". Infact nazis were in bed with the capitalist industrial powers of the time. The latter flocked to nazi support when the threat of a popular revolt as a result of economic crises and war became imminent.

What is the problem? The Nazis, as a party, would not have survived if they did not have donations from industrialists. This is just a deal with conscience for a while, since later the Nazis, already being in power, could take away his object from a particular industrialist.

 

[Caesercel]

it was filled to the brim with anti-national Jews, Soviet NKVD infiltrators, anarchists and Trotskyists.

Maybe. But whatever they were, they still lead the unions and were establishing a fairly popular worker's movement (moreso than nazis I might add). Which made sense considering the state of Germany after ww1 and weimar failures.

The use of established industry was out of necessity and pragmatism. Why destroy established German industry by completely nationalizing it and let the economy collapse? It

That makes sense considering Germany was not in the same situation as Russia. But it is still diagramatically opposite to socialist intentions. One of them being collective ownership.

What is the problem?

I'm not saying there's a problem. Just that they are not socialist

 

[Thugs-5-Less]

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[Sir Waco]

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[blackpillednigga]

This is massively incorrect, in Mein Kampf, Hitler speaks about the fact that Social Democrats & Communists subverted the trade union movement in order to disrupt the nation-states economic system.

They also did recognize the issue the capitalist class brings, due to the fact that they did not adhere to the most basic needs of them.

im confused by hitler because most of his rhetoric was pro-working class but when he actually was in power he did everything to prevent workers from being treated fairly by dismantling trade unions and encouraging workers to comply with industrial corporations

 

[Caesercel]

im confused by hitler because most of his rhetoric was pro-working class but when he actually was in power he did everything to prevent workers from being treated fairly by dismantling trade unions and encouraging workers to comply with industrial corporations

Trump's rhetoric is pro-working class too. These people know they cannot be as brazen nowadays as they were in 18th and 19th century.

 

[The_word_made_flesh]

They would have been left wing to American standards on economic issues but they hated communism which was on the rise in Europe at that time.They tried to draw workers away from communism but had no other real plans than taking over the world

 

[ButterNoParsnips]

Its misleading to think that Hitler did not pressed the Socialism button upon taking office. The people's concentration camps were established because he understood the dialectic between the bour-Jew-sie and the prolet-Aryans

This is massively incorrect, in Mein Kampf, Hitler speaks about the fact that Social Democrats & Communists subverted the trade union movement in order to disrupt the nation-states economic system.

This is half correct, Liberals usually ignore the butchering of the Communists by the SPD with the help of Friekorps. While it was a skill issue on the Communists part, including but not limited to, their inability to induce a clean ideological split based on principles like the Bolsheviks did in Russia, their failure to form a revolutionary party distinct from Social Democracy (SPD) until December 1918, their inability to convince the revolutionary stewards to break from the USPD and join them, their failure to discipline the councilists, and Liebknecht premature call for insurrection. Which ultimately doomed the revolution in Germany and also the Bolsheviks.

They were against Marxist socialism and in favor of a genuine Germanic socialism.

"We chose to call ourselves National Socialists. We are not Internationalists. Our Socialism is national. We demand the fulfillment of the just demands of the productive classes by the state on the basis of race solidarity. To us state and race are one."

In another word, Hitler ethnicized (not a word) the means of production, he moved them from Jewish capitalists to German capitalists. Their slogan “blood and soil” is pretty representative of what they stood for. Also Hitler did not implement anything close to socialism, just because every private industry supported the Nazis, didn't mean they were nationalized. In fact, the concept of privatization was literally invented to describe Hitler’s economic policies.