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SuicideFuel Nazi technology was not as advanced as everyone thinks it is. (Dnrcels DNE)

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I mean it was advanced - but it wasn't hundreds of years ahead like some people here think. Here is why: (Lifefuels for Slavs Btw)

1. Germany produced the first viable cruise missiles

Correct, but the US already created unreliable prototypes in years before the war.

2. German rifles were better than their contemporaries

This is false. The main German rifle - the Kar98k, was worse than Allied rifles in many ways. Even in the First World War, the Geweher 98 (predecessor of the Kar98k) was considered inferior to its British counterpart - the Lee Enfield MK III (predecessor of the No.4) The British rifle was fed by a magazine that held ten rounds. The German rifle held only 5 rounds and used stripper clips. The Lee Enfield was also designed with an angled smooth bolt that allowed for a fast rate of fire.

The m1 Garand was less accurate but its semi-automatic operation more than made up for it. A little-known fact is that the world-renowned AK-47 used a rotating bolt design (like the Garand) instead of the tilting bolt used on the German StG44. Of course, the Germans also produced their own semi-automatic rifles in the form of both G41s and the Stendebach 1936, but they were either too expensive or too complicated to produce.

The French Mas-36 and the Soviet SVT-40 were also semi-automatic.

3. The Germans produced the world's first true assault rifle
This is correct, but the concept of the Assault rifle already existed back in WW1. Even the Soviets had an assault rifle project in the works (AS-44) that was sadly never completed due to the death of the designer.
Sudayev AS-44 (7.62x39mm) Designed in 1944 by Alexey Sudayev (he is  designer of PPS and died in 1946 because of illness) I wonder Mikhail  Kalashnikov is heavily influenced by AS-44? : r/ForgottenWeapons

The very aesthetically pleasing AS-44

The Federov Avtomat was invented in WW1 and used a modified rifle cartridge just like the StG-44.

300px-Avtomat_M1916_Fedorov_noBG.jpg


An improved version (made by another designer) was made in 1927. Behold - the glorious Tokarev M1927. Slav Power!

250px-Tokarev_SMG_1927.jpg


This gun was a beast. It fired at an absurd 1200 RPM! Any German attempting to assault a Russian soldier equipped with this gun would have been instantly melted into pink mist.

4. German planes were ahead of their time
This is only true in the late war when the Germans started pumping out the first jet fighters - but early-mid-war German planes were actually very comparable to their British & Russian counterparts. The Spitfire and Yak-9 traded a bit of speed for agility. Other than that, they were almost identical in specs.

5. German Warships were very advanced
This is false. Anyone that says such thing as no understanding of naval history whatsoever. German battleships had many flaws that weren't present on Allied ships. Such as:
1. Triple screws that barely allowed the ships to steer
2. Great torpedo protection, except on the rudder. This design flaw proved fatal when the Pride of the German Navy, the KMS Bismarck, was torpedoed and crippled by British Swordfishes. (WW1 planes!) Later, She was found, immobilized, and gangbanged by a 1/3 of the royal navy.
3. Oversized guns that didn't allow for triple turrets
4. 15" gun that was only a sidegrade to the (WW1!) British 15" despite being almost 40 years newer
5. German ships were only accurate for about 10 minutes. (They used overengineered stereoscopic rangefinders instead of the simple but effective coincidence rangefinders found on British ships)
6. Outdated armour scheme. The Germans used a type of distributed armor scheme that was unheard of ever since USS Nevada (1914!)
7. Inferior radar sets. The German FuMo 23 was advanced at the beginning of the war but was slowly made obsolete as the war dragged on.
8. Weak Armour. German steel was among the best in the world, but due to the inefficient armor scheme, a lot of weight was wasted on parts of the ship that didn't need to be protected. As a consequence, on the parts the ACTUALLY did matter, the ships were lacking compared to their counterparts.


6. German tanks were very advanced
The truth is that late-war Sherman tanks were very comparable to the late-war German Panzer III and IVs (and their innumerable variants) The German tanks had heavier frontal armor but almost non-existent side armor. The American Sherman was well armored all around due to its origins as a combined arms vehicle. The heavy German tanks the Tiger I and Tiger IIs were formidable but suffered serious reliability issues. The Soviets also had a heavy tank in the works - the IS-2. It was better armored but it also had a very slow fire rate. Equipped with specialty armor-piercing shells, the Sherman tank could also penetrate the Panther and both Tiger tanks, but only at a very close distance.

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Oh nigger :feelskek::feelskek: I just realized I spent 20 mins writing a post that probably nobody is going to read :lul:
 
I would be in tears right now if I was still 14.
 
The gewehr 43 and stg.44 and mp40 u dumb nigger and the panzerfaust and the stielhandgranat and the other shits all top quality to kill Jews with
 
I mean it was advanced - but it wasn't hundreds of years ahead like some people here think. Here is why: (Lifefuels for Slavs Btw)

1. Germany produced the first viable cruise missiles

Correct, but the US already created unreliable prototypes in years before the war.

2. German rifles were better than their contemporaries

This is false. The main German rifle - the Kar98k, was worse than Allied rifles in many ways. Even in the First World War, the Geweher 98 (predecessor of the Kar98k) was considered inferior to its British counterpart - the Lee Enfield MK III (predecessor of the No.4) The British rifle was fed by a magazine that held ten rounds. The German rifle held only 5 rounds and used stripper clips. The Lee Enfield was also designed with an angled smooth bolt that allowed for a fast rate of fire.

The m1 Garand was less accurate but its semi-automatic operation more than made up for it. A little-known fact is that the world-renowned AK-47 used a rotating bolt design (like the Garand) instead of the tilting bolt used on the German StG44. Of course, the Germans also produced their own semi-automatic rifles in the form of both G41s and the Stendebach 1936, but they were either too expensive or too complicated to produce.

The French Mas-36 and the Soviet SVT-40 were also semi-automatic.

3. The Germans produced the world's first true assault rifle
This is correct, but the concept of the Assault rifle already existed back in WW1. Even the Soviets had an assault rifle project in the works (AS-44) that was sadly never completed due to the death of the designer.
Sudayev AS-44 (7.62x39mm) Designed in 1944 by Alexey Sudayev (he is  designer of PPS and died in 1946 because of illness) I wonder Mikhail  Kalashnikov is heavily influenced by AS-44? : r/ForgottenWeapons

The very aesthetically pleasing AS-44

The Federov Avtomat was invented in WW1 and used a modified rifle cartridge just like the StG-44.

300px-Avtomat_M1916_Fedorov_noBG.jpg


An improved version (made by another designer) was made in 1927. Behold - the glorious Tokarev M1927. Slav Power!

250px-Tokarev_SMG_1927.jpg


This gun was a beast. It fired at an absurd 1200 RPM! Any German attempting to assault a Russian soldier equipped with this gun would have been instantly melted into pink mist.

4. German planes were ahead of their time
This is only true in the late war when the Germans started pumping out the first jet fighters - but early-mid-war German planes were actually very comparable to their British & Russian counterparts. The Spitfire and Yak-9 traded a bit of speed for agility. Other than that, they were almost identical in specs.

5. German Warships were very advanced
This is false. Anyone that says such thing as no understanding of naval history whatsoever. German battleships had many flaws that weren't present on Allied ships. Such as:
1. Triple screws that barely allowed the ships to steer
2. Great torpedo protection, except on the rudder. This design flaw proved fatal when the Pride of the German Navy, the KMS Bismarck, was torpedoed and crippled by British Swordfishes. (WW1 planes!) Later, She was found, immobilized, and gangbanged by a 1/3 of the royal navy.
3. Oversized guns that didn't allow for triple turrets
4. 15" gun that was only a sidegrade to the (WW1!) British 15" despite being almost 40 years newer
5. German ships were only accurate for about 10 minutes. (They used overengineered stereoscopic rangefinders instead of the simple but effective coincidence rangefinders found on British ships)
6. Outdated armour scheme. The Germans used a type of distributed armor scheme that was unheard of ever since USS Nevada (1914!)
7. Inferior radar sets. The German FuMo 23 was advanced at the beginning of the war but was slowly made obsolete as the war dragged on.
8. Weak Armour. German steel was among the best in the world, but due to the inefficient armor scheme, a lot of weight was wasted on parts of the ship that didn't need to be protected. As a consequence, on the parts the ACTUALLY did matter, the ships were lacking compared to their counterparts.


6. German tanks were very advanced
The truth is that late-war Sherman tanks were very comparable to the late-war German Panzer III and IVs (and their innumerable variants) The German tanks had heavier frontal armor but almost non-existent side armor. The American Sherman was well armored all around due to its origins as a combined arms vehicle. The heavy German tanks the Tiger I and Tiger IIs were formidable but suffered serious reliability issues. The Soviets also had a heavy tank in the works - the IS-2. It was better armored but it also had a very slow fire rate. Equipped with specialty armor-piercing shells, the Sherman tank could also penetrate the Panther and both Tiger tanks, but only at a very close distance.

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You’re coping hard the last 200 years relied heavily on German technology. The current stagnation is from Jews and AngloCucks stepping on our necks.
 
You’re coping hard the last 200 years relied heavily on German technology. The current stagnation is from Jews and AngloCucks stepping on our necks.
I am not. I'm almost certain you didn't even read the post. The jet engine wasn't even invented by Germans JFL.
 
I have never made the argument that National Socialists were somehow technological gods that were superior to all by lightyears. I have always argued about their superiority from a political and social perspective. Even if they were slightly or more or less the same as their ALL-LIED counterparts, this doesn't change anything, I have argued. Had the Second World War been won by Germany or simply avoided together ( a fairly easy and simple task, DON'T DECLARE WAR BRITAIN AND FRANCE!), the world would be in a significantly, substantial, I wager, place.

 
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The Manhattan project had ludicrous amounts of funding and scientists working on it. The nazis could never match that level of commitment of resources towards one project.
 
The Manhattan project had ludicrous amounts of funding and scientists working on it. The nazis could never match that level of commitment of resources towards one project.
Brutal fraudpill!

What would Dr Manhattan do?
 
I thought everyone knew that
 

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