My thoughts on suicide and why you should never do it in a traditional manner

[daydreamER]

Suicide is something I frankly find abhorrent and I am disappointed by its glorification on this forum. The "traditional" idea of suicide in this forum of the subhuman blowing his head off alone in his room is horrifying and I find it pathetic. While I understand the motive behind it as a quick and easy way to escape from the world, it is also the very thing that society has wanted you to do from your very conception as a sub5 male. I won't feed you any normie ideas about "the world would be a worse place without you", "many people will miss you", or "All you will do by suicide is pass your misery on to someone else", because they simply are not true. Your parents find you a burden, you don't have any friends that will miss you, and there is no partner that will be distraught at your passing. The only tears that will be shed if you are lucky is your parents crying out of biological obligation or lamenting the end of their bloodline. Everyone who knew you will wake up the next day and their life will go on as usual, and at most you will get your family members thinking about your passing every year on the anniversary of your death. That is the very problem with suicide. Suicide for incels is doing a favor to the world and speeding up natural selection. I will never voluntarily die because I will be doing good to a world that rejected me and hated me just for things I can't change. I will keep living out of spite, I will keep living out of hate for the people around me, I will it a mission to inflict misery upon them in any capacity that doesn't harm my life further. These people do not deserve to see me gone, they will have to tolerate my presence.

But what if it is too much for you? What if your capacity to cope has run out? What if your hate for others has eventually given way to despair and depression? That is when the concept of what I consider an "honourable suicide" comes in. An honourable suicide is never self inflicted. It always has to be at the hands of another entity, whether it is nature, animals, or law enforcement. Never pull the trigger yourself, you have many things in the world that are ready to do it for you. Another aspect of an honourable suicide are the events that lead up to it. Once you have made up your mind, go out into the world. Harass foids, piss on people, rob people, pretend your life is a video game. Became like Hamudi, go up to people and talk to them about the blackpill, about inceldom, about whatever the hell you want. If you want to be set free from the world, act like it. Go into the world and feel your freedom before checking out.

While of course I believe that suicide is not ideal, I will give a couple of examples of what I consider an "honourable suicide":

• Death by cop. Threaten law enforcement to the point that they have no choice but to shoot you
• Death by nature. Go into the forest without any equipment and see how long you can survive. You either die or survive with an experience that has changed your life most likely for the better. This is the best "suicide" method in my opinion.
• Death by cold. I have heard that dying from the cold is a good way to go and that you experience your last moments in bliss, but this is not exactly an "honourable suicide" as it is more self inflicted than the other examples given.
• thERe are some othER methods but for legal reasons I will not mention them

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[SrutalBeggs]

Positive K/D ratio

 

[chudjak]

I think a big reason for suicide is that some incels or even normies actually see it as revenge. They believe that with their passing, all the people who wronged them will suddenly feel bad about what they did, people will regret being cruel to them, someone would be like "if only I was there for them", or maybe some people would actually become depressed with their passing.

None of that would ever happen, you won't get any emotional revenge, the bitch who made fun of you, spread rumors about you, laughed at you, the chads who hurt you or stole from you. They are ALL going to continue waking up each day to have sex with each other and not worry about any of the people they wronged.

I for one had a brutal realitypill when coming into college for my first semester. There was a person who was nice to me in highschool who I decided to hang out with in college since we were at the same college and I had no other people I knew there and couldn't meet anyone new as a loser. Want to know what happened? The entire time we hung out he was telling me to shut up when I spoke, calling me stupid, and trying to lie about shit (like when I asked to play a game with him he said he didn't have it even though it was on his fucking console and I saw it). All of that is irrelevant though, what matters is that he had another person from my highschool over who was watching him say these things to me and all he had to give was this:

"I forgot you existed."

That's the truth about suicide, if they didn't care about you before you were gone, they won't care after. They will forget you exist, same as if you moved to another country. You will never cross their mind.

 

[ack]

I never really understood living out of spite. No one I knew in HS remembers me and I doubt they'd even find out I died. Also in the times I've felt seriously suicidal I've just been too tired to try doing anything low inhib, I just wanted things to be over. When you're really actively thinking about suicide, getting revenge just feels pointless as when you kill yourself everything goes out with you, billions of years pass by in the blink of an eye just like they did before you were born and from your point of view, killing yourself would end everyone elses lives faster than going ER would.

 

[Misogynist Vegeta]

If it ever comes to it, i'm never gonna directly kill myself indeed i will play minecraft IRL. Just go out into the woods and survive on my own, either I succumb to the elements or survive and end up being happier then i would be rotting away.

 

[PolskiKartofel]

I would jump under train in some bottleneck route to stop train traffic, very fast, probably painless if the head and upper spinal cord would be crushed at short moment

Or in some spectacular place or in a spectacular (but painful) way like setting myself in fire and sending earlier manifesto - "you killed an average yet innocent man, you have blood on your hands" and give some names and family names of foids who rejected me to find them and ask about their cruelty

 

[smegma producer]

If anyone is planning to end it all, just make sure get a nice K/D

If you truly wish to die then go out with a bang.

There is a dire need for true saints

 

[zerozerozero]

That's the truth about suicide, if they didn't care about you before you were gone, they won't care after. They will forget you exist, same as if you moved to another country. You will never cross their mind.

bruuutal but true

 

[Clavicus Vile]

I halfway agree but also disagree since life is inherently meaningless so it generally wouldn’t matter how you end it. And also like you said, people have always hated ugly men, from the day an ugly man is born, people want him dead. That would never change no matter how many people you hypothetically killed or how cool your suicide method is, once you’re dead then people will just make jokes and memes about you. However I think going [REDACTED] and the other methods you listed are still extremely honorable.

But so is blowing your head off or hanging yourself because it takes guts to go through with it, and it can go wrong as well, so that means you beat the odds and won, escaping your misery. No longer subjected to the torment of this world. The dead always win, the living always lose.

 

[stranger]

Fundamentally, committing suicide is basically throwing away all your potential. You could have done so much, to damage the society that hated you. Yet you surrendered. That kind of death is a slave's death. "Do not go gentle in to that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light." There is a reason why I include Dylan Thomas' quote in my signature. I don't think we should just lie down and die taking it.

However, this does not mean starting an incel revolution. Most of us are not genetically capable of doing that. ER killing a few normies didn't change anything. Luigi Mangione gunning down Brian Thompson won't change anything. Incels should continuously sabotage society in a disorganized way. Whether it is supporting radical governments, pouring grease in sewers, spreading propaganda, or directly getting inside critical infrastructure.

The easiest ways of sabotaging is to stop engaging in consumerism. Don't buy that new call of duty, you know it's shit anyway. Stop buying slop, learn to cook for yourself. You could engage in vandalism. The most lethal means of sabotage would be to get inside and rip it out. Watch Mr. ROBOT. it is a very relatable movie that can give you inspiration. Just do anything you can to damage the infrastructure of the elite.

Individually, incel acts of sabotage don't have much of an effect. Even men collectively working together could not be enough to stop the system from working. We can slow things down. The world is a big machine, and we are all components of it. Instead of going in to NEET, become a faulty component that slows the machine down. Eventually, one day it all comes crashing down. Don't let your potential go to waste. Every little step, every little action matters.

 

[TooSomething]

This thread is glowing hard.

 

[JKlancecaster069]

 

[j10009504]

you see it as a negative because you are still holding on to something. The hope that you can "get back at" the world. The idea that what other people want actually matters. When you really lose everything, including your hopeful revenge fantasies, you will see that all that matters is that the suffering ends. It won't matter if the whole world celebrates. Ending it will be all that matters, everything else is a luxury you can no longer afford.

 

[Friezacel]

basically throwing away all your potential.

you cant lose something that you never had

 

[Jud Pottah]

If anyone is planning to end it all, just make sure get a nice K/D

If you truly wish to die then go out with a bang.

There is a dire need for true saints

 

[kcarrots]

I will never voluntarily die because I will be doing good to a world that rejected me and hated me just for things I can't change. I will keep living out of spite, I will keep living out of hate for the people around me, I will it a mission to inflict misery upon them in any capacity that doesn't harm my life further. These people do not deserve to see me gone, they will have to tolerate my presence.

I completely agree with this, I’m someone to always recommend to stay alive and do anything to make your short life on this planet worthwhile. As unlucky as you’ve been you can always do something and the motive can be anything. Live out of spite, for yourself, for a pet, for revenge of how others treated you. Your life is yours do something to be proud of it when you do go

 

[fullofchagrin]

If it ever comes to it, i'm never gonna directly kill myself indeed i will play minecraft IRL. Just go out into the woods and survive on my own, either I succumb to the elements or survive and end up being happier then i would be rotting away.

That's what you think you'd do, but when you get to a certain point, you really don't care about anything other than ending it

 

[NeverEvenBegan]

Suicide is consequential only in relation to others. If you don't have any loved one who would miss you, then you are essentially a ghost and suicide won't matter. No one would care and notice your absence.

In my case, my parents are the light that keeps me going. I will not rope under any circumstances as long as any of them is still alive. After that, it remains to be seen...