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Venting My thoughts of ethnics living in the West, and why they are more likely to be incel.

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Something that I've noticed is that a lot of incel forums are littered with ethnic men of all kinds; Indian, Southeast Asian, Middle Eastern and so on. I'm not saying that whites can't be incel (they definitely can), but I do feel that there is something peculiar about other ethnic men that makes them more likely to be involuntarily celibate.

I'm gonna ramble a bit here, because there's a lot that I've figured out after doing some introspection.


My parents came to Canada from the Middle East. I grew up here and there, inheriting from both cultures. Paradoxically, the only time I felt accepted as a Canadian was before puberty, and as I grew I started to feel more and more like an outcast, as if I do not belong here. It's as if I grew from a boy into a foreigner. The older I got, the more I found that my life experiences really do not match up with other Canadian males my age, and that I was pretending to be like them, even though I knew nothing else.

Most men of other ethnic groups tend to be smaller (remember that the average height for men around the World is 5'7"), so already most ethnic men cannot compete in sexual value with white men, who tend to be 5'10" on average. and the values that parents instilled into us seemed to be completely out of touch with what was respected in the West. Other ethnic cultures usually teach values like humility, respect for family, religion, focus in studies and in career, which are what make a man in more traditional societies. In the West, I've found that things such as physical prowess, athleticism, arrogance (what Westerners mistake as confidence), and intense competition are what define a man. So already, a lot of us ethnic men grow up to be maladapted individuals with respect to what the society values in men.

However as I grew, I found that ethnic women tend to be "accepted" more than ethnic men into social circles. That likely has to do with them being women and are thus more valuable in social circles, but also that they are seen as more exotic and white men like dating them. In fact, I found that women of colour very quickly abandon the cultures and traditions of their parents, seeking to live a more individualistic, hedonistic lifestyle that caters to them and allows them a higher social status in the West under the heel of a white man. The end result is that ethnic men are not only not attractive to white women (most women don't date interracially, despite what white supremacists may think), but they also aren't as attractive to women of colour. A lot of ethnic women seek acceptance in Western society, so they distance themselves from anything deemed foreign to it, and the easiest way to "make it" for most ethnic women is to have a white boyfriend. So they will put in more effort to secure that.

What definitely doesn't help is the media. Regardless of what the Left tries to say about white men, they for the most part have a neutral stereotype, allowing them to define who they are for themselves. Ethnic men don't get this advantage. Western media (including social media) likes to categorize Indian men as creepy, smelly nerds for example, Asians as meek, small nerds, Middle Eastern men as dangerous, misogynistic backwards ragheads who beat their wives. And while none of those are true, this is what we have to disprove when socializing with others. Notably, liberals and the Left really do not care about the plight of ethnic men. We are not seen as disadvantaged because we are men, and the narrative is that only black men are oppressed.

Black guys also don't do well unless they follow the stereotype (tall, muscular, athletic, etc), but they do get much better representation as a whole in the media, and are sexualized to a certain extent.

I found that most ethnic men live very lonely lives in the West. Among the white friends I have, they all have been in relationships, dated, hooked up, and socialized quite normally. My non-white guy friends on the other hand, most of them are virgins, or they had a lucky streak in highschool that ended abruptly in University. Some have admitted to me that they have seen escorts.

It feels as if trying to play the game normally as an ethnic man gets you nothing. The only ethnic men I know who are getting girlfriends and have sex are those who are doing crime, either selling drugs or they are part of a gang. It's even a common saying among my Middle Eastern friends; "Want a white girl? Sell her drugs." Other successful ethnic men happen to be very tall and goodlooking, or they have musical talent like the Weeknd, who is an Ethiopian immigrant.

The rest live lonely lives, and I know that in the Muslim community, they usually try coping by isolating from mainstream society and being more religious. I know many guys like that. I mean, we will never belong here, so why not try to return to your roots? Of course, many of those guys end up joining paramilitary organizations elsewhere around the World, looking for a purpose and a belonging that they could not find in the West.

Is there a solution to this? I honestly don't know. But these are my thoughts on it.
 
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The interracial dating zeitgeist of the West is pure colonization. White men want to colonize ethnic women, and ethnic women are all too happy to sell out and oblige.

The media pushes this narrative every chance it gets. Look no further than Pocahontas (1995), The Last Samurai (2003), and James Cameron's Avatar (2009). All three are Western movies about interracial interactions. All three feature a White savior, an angry ethnic prince who dies in battle, and an ethnic princess who becomes the white man's prize. There are probably dozens more such films. It's like clockwork.

You only have to take a stroll down any diverse liberal coastal city street to see how many white-man-ethnic-female pairings are out there. And this imbalance goes all the way to the top. Liberal American women of color in government are all dating White men: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, and now Kamala Harris, just to name a few.

I don't think there's a solution to this, by the way. Ethnic men have no future in the West.
 
Actually brutal noreplypill.

I read you rant brocel. I am middle eastern 3rd generation Australian and I still have it a hard time to fit in.
 
The interracial dating zeitgeist of the West is pure colonization. White men want to colonize ethnic women, and ethnic women are all too happy to sell out and oblige.

The media pushes this narrative every chance it gets. Look no further than Pocahontas (1995), The Last Samurai (2003), and James Cameron's Avatar (2009). All three are Western movies about interracial interactions. All three feature a White savior, an angry ethnic prince who dies in battle, and an ethnic princess who becomes the white man's prize. There are probably dozens more such films. It's like clockwork.

You only have to take a stroll down any diverse liberal coastal city street to see how many white-man-ethnic-female pairings are out there. And this imbalance goes all the way to the top. Liberal American women of color in government are all dating White men: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, and now Kamala Harris, just to name a few.

I don't think there's a solution to this, by the way. Ethnic men have no future in the West.

Don't elect people that's solution for fiscal and economic policy is to invite people from ethnic countries to move to and work in western countries to fund failing social safety nets from misuse of funds and low native birth rates.

Inform ethnic males that want to immigrate to western countries that inceldom will likely await them and share the experiences of what many western ethnic males go through with them so their only reason to move is to moneymaxx and they aren't deluded about their chances with getting a sexual relationship with women when they move to western countries.
 
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Ethnics are objectively uglier on average which is why they are more likely to be incel
 
Being an ethnic in the west is very bad. Ethnics tend to be uglier. Whites can also be incels but ethnics are more likely to be incels
 
Women in the West are stuck as 15 year olds in mentality(and wisdom). That ideal Muslim man who has humility, honesty, a good career, accomplished.. she sees that guy as 'the other'. Even if the woman is 29, she still thinks she is a rebellious teenager inside.

She wants a 'hot' guy who is dangerous & exciting. And that is the thing if you take the Western value of maximizing pleasure with no thought to the future, then that dangerous & exciting guy is more exhilarating, it makes her more horny & more drama and conflict which women love.
 
Cliffs: they're uglier than whites.
 
Cliffs: they're uglier than whites.

It's relative. Just because most of us ethnics don't have westernized features doesn't mean we're intrinsically ugly. Western features are what ppl deemed attractive because that's the standard white men have set since they have most of the power in the world.
 
It's relative. Just because most of us ethnics don't have westernized features doesn't mean we're intrinsically ugly. Western features are what ppl deemed attractive because that's the standard white men have set since they have most of the power in the world.
This is the same argument fat women use.
 
This is the same argument fat women use.

to be fair, fatter women were deemed attractive back hundreds of years ago. Standards of beauty shift and are non-stagnant.
 
The interracial dating zeitgeist of the West is pure colonization. White men want to colonize ethnic women, and ethnic women are all too happy to sell out and oblige.

The media pushes this narrative every chance it gets. Look no further than Pocahontas (1995), The Last Samurai (2003), and James Cameron's Avatar (2009). All three are Western movies about interracial interactions. All three feature a White savior, an angry ethnic prince who dies in battle, and an ethnic princess who becomes the white man's prize. There are probably dozens more such films. It's like clockwork.

You only have to take a stroll down any diverse liberal coastal city street to see how many white-man-ethnic-female pairings are out there. And this imbalance goes all the way to the top. Liberal American women of color in government are all dating White men: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, and now Kamala Harris, just to name a few.

I don't think there's a solution to this, by the way. Ethnic men have no future in the West.
Women in the West are stuck as 15 year olds in mentality(and wisdom). That ideal Muslim man who has humility, honesty, a good career, accomplished.. she sees that guy as 'the other'. Even if the woman is 29, she still thinks she is a rebellious teenager inside.

She wants a 'hot' guy who is dangerous & exciting. And that is the thing if you take the Western value of maximizing pleasure with no thought to the future, then that dangerous & exciting guy is more exhilarating, it makes her more horny & more drama and conflict which women love.
Great thread, it never began for ethniccels in the west.
 
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We are not seen as disadvantaged because we are men, and the narrative is that only black men are oppressed.
And this, gentlemen, is why I hate niggers, cumskins and towelhead whores. They're all in it together, and they don't like the brown man at all.
 
It's relative. Just because most of us ethnics don't have westernized features doesn't mean we're intrinsically ugly. Western features are what ppl deemed attractive because that's the standard white men have set since they have most of the power in the world.
Gigacope. Studies have shown that even babies find Whites more attractive that other races.
 
This does seem a bit eye-opening, ngl.
 
Very true. I'm in my early 30's and a lot of my white classmates back in high school are now married or have kids (not all, but far moreso than my Asian male classmates).

80%+ of my Asian male friends/acquaintances as of now are incels.

In my facebook friends list (mostly high school classmates), what I find is that most of the non-Asians (whether it be White, Hispanic, Black) are in relationships or were in relationships. And of course noodlewhores.

The only people who have never been in relationships (far moreso than any other group in my friends list) are the Asian males. Doesn't matter if you're average looking or have a nice career, own property, or have status. Women really do discriminate against you if you're an Asian or a South Asian guy in the Anglosphere (it really does come down to looks and some of it comes down to culture). They don't really see you as human beings, respect you, acknowledge you, or see you as sexual beings.

With all that said, there are a lot of white stormfrontcels on this forum who have the gall to jab at me even with all the facts laid out that favors them by far and which also shows that rice men are suffering the most by far out of all ethnic groups.

The only thing I hate more in this world than hypocritical liberal foids are white stormfrontcels. The lowest of the low. Their victory means your loss mindset. Thank god for BLM and the eventual demise of the Anglosphere. I truly hope I live long enough to see that day.

Anyone who's ever been to strip clubs a lot know that most of the patrons are ethnic men. You rarely see young white dudes at strip clubs because most of them are at regular bars getting a lot of female attention.

I support BLM with everything.
 
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High IQ ethniccel analysis.

The cultural jarring disconnect is perhaps the biggest reason.
 
Are middle eastern guys incel in canada and america? Here in west europe they seem to get married at a young age, perhaps because the muslims here have a lower social status and are more conservative. Two of my turkish childhood friends, who are now ultra manlets, are both married and have children. I think in europe it's less bad than other places, for ethnic guys.
 
Ethnics should NOT migrate to west . The falsehope of getting a good life just by having all the first world previleges doesnt mean anything when you see yourself lacking the most important thing what others are having so easily .
I bet all the ethnics in the west are blackpilled to some extent after they spend some time there
 
Are middle eastern guys incel in canada and america? Here in west europe they seem to get married at a young age, perhaps because the muslims here have a lower social status and are more conservative. Two of my turkish childhood friends, who are now ultra manlets, are both married and have children. I think in europe it's less bad than other places, for ethnic guys.

In North America we do tend to get at minimum upper middle class Arabs, Currycels & Ricecels. The plane tickets, cost of living & legal costs of immigrating makes it closed off to people of average of below average means from those places.

Our version of the lower class immigrant is mainly Latinos.. and even though those guys are short & not good looking.. they get married young and have kids so it does seem to be a social status thing.

The ethnic Sandcel, Currycel & Ricecel women in America also come form upper middle class plus families so they become white collar type of people in America... eg.. most of them go to university and get some office type of jobs.
 

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