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Something that I've noticed is that a lot of incel forums are littered with ethnic men of all kinds; Indian, Southeast Asian, Middle Eastern and so on. I'm not saying that whites can't be incel (they definitely can), but I do feel that there is something peculiar about other ethnic men that makes them more likely to be involuntarily celibate.
I'm gonna ramble a bit here, because there's a lot that I've figured out after doing some introspection.
My parents came to Canada from the Middle East. I grew up here and there, inheriting from both cultures. Paradoxically, the only time I felt accepted as a Canadian was before puberty, and as I grew I started to feel more and more like an outcast, as if I do not belong here. It's as if I grew from a boy into a foreigner. The older I got, the more I found that my life experiences really do not match up with other Canadian males my age, and that I was pretending to be like them, even though I knew nothing else.
Most men of other ethnic groups tend to be smaller (remember that the average height for men around the World is 5'7"), so already most ethnic men cannot compete in sexual value with white men, who tend to be 5'10" on average. and the values that parents instilled into us seemed to be completely out of touch with what was respected in the West. Other ethnic cultures usually teach values like humility, respect for family, religion, focus in studies and in career, which are what make a man in more traditional societies. In the West, I've found that things such as physical prowess, athleticism, arrogance (what Westerners mistake as confidence), and intense competition are what define a man. So already, a lot of us ethnic men grow up to be maladapted individuals with respect to what the society values in men.
However as I grew, I found that ethnic women tend to be "accepted" more than ethnic men into social circles. That likely has to do with them being women and are thus more valuable in social circles, but also that they are seen as more exotic and white men like dating them. In fact, I found that women of colour very quickly abandon the cultures and traditions of their parents, seeking to live a more individualistic, hedonistic lifestyle that caters to them and allows them a higher social status in the West under the heel of a white man. The end result is that ethnic men are not only not attractive to white women (most women don't date interracially, despite what white supremacists may think), but they also aren't as attractive to women of colour. A lot of ethnic women seek acceptance in Western society, so they distance themselves from anything deemed foreign to it, and the easiest way to "make it" for most ethnic women is to have a white boyfriend. So they will put in more effort to secure that.
What definitely doesn't help is the media. Regardless of what the Left tries to say about white men, they for the most part have a neutral stereotype, allowing them to define who they are for themselves. Ethnic men don't get this advantage. Western media (including social media) likes to categorize Indian men as creepy, smelly nerds for example, Asians as meek, small nerds, Middle Eastern men as dangerous, misogynistic backwards ragheads who beat their wives. And while none of those are true, this is what we have to disprove when socializing with others. Notably, liberals and the Left really do not care about the plight of ethnic men. We are not seen as disadvantaged because we are men, and the narrative is that only black men are oppressed.
Black guys also don't do well unless they follow the stereotype (tall, muscular, athletic, etc), but they do get much better representation as a whole in the media, and are sexualized to a certain extent.
I found that most ethnic men live very lonely lives in the West. Among the white friends I have, they all have been in relationships, dated, hooked up, and socialized quite normally. My non-white guy friends on the other hand, most of them are virgins, or they had a lucky streak in highschool that ended abruptly in University. Some have admitted to me that they have seen escorts.
It feels as if trying to play the game normally as an ethnic man gets you nothing. The only ethnic men I know who are getting girlfriends and have sex are those who are doing crime, either selling drugs or they are part of a gang. It's even a common saying among my Middle Eastern friends; "Want a white girl? Sell her drugs." Other successful ethnic men happen to be very tall and goodlooking, or they have musical talent like the Weeknd, who is an Ethiopian immigrant.
The rest live lonely lives, and I know that in the Muslim community, they usually try coping by isolating from mainstream society and being more religious. I know many guys like that. I mean, we will never belong here, so why not try to return to your roots? Of course, many of those guys end up joining paramilitary organizations elsewhere around the World, looking for a purpose and a belonging that they could not find in the West.
Is there a solution to this? I honestly don't know. But these are my thoughts on it.
I'm gonna ramble a bit here, because there's a lot that I've figured out after doing some introspection.
My parents came to Canada from the Middle East. I grew up here and there, inheriting from both cultures. Paradoxically, the only time I felt accepted as a Canadian was before puberty, and as I grew I started to feel more and more like an outcast, as if I do not belong here. It's as if I grew from a boy into a foreigner. The older I got, the more I found that my life experiences really do not match up with other Canadian males my age, and that I was pretending to be like them, even though I knew nothing else.
Most men of other ethnic groups tend to be smaller (remember that the average height for men around the World is 5'7"), so already most ethnic men cannot compete in sexual value with white men, who tend to be 5'10" on average. and the values that parents instilled into us seemed to be completely out of touch with what was respected in the West. Other ethnic cultures usually teach values like humility, respect for family, religion, focus in studies and in career, which are what make a man in more traditional societies. In the West, I've found that things such as physical prowess, athleticism, arrogance (what Westerners mistake as confidence), and intense competition are what define a man. So already, a lot of us ethnic men grow up to be maladapted individuals with respect to what the society values in men.
However as I grew, I found that ethnic women tend to be "accepted" more than ethnic men into social circles. That likely has to do with them being women and are thus more valuable in social circles, but also that they are seen as more exotic and white men like dating them. In fact, I found that women of colour very quickly abandon the cultures and traditions of their parents, seeking to live a more individualistic, hedonistic lifestyle that caters to them and allows them a higher social status in the West under the heel of a white man. The end result is that ethnic men are not only not attractive to white women (most women don't date interracially, despite what white supremacists may think), but they also aren't as attractive to women of colour. A lot of ethnic women seek acceptance in Western society, so they distance themselves from anything deemed foreign to it, and the easiest way to "make it" for most ethnic women is to have a white boyfriend. So they will put in more effort to secure that.
What definitely doesn't help is the media. Regardless of what the Left tries to say about white men, they for the most part have a neutral stereotype, allowing them to define who they are for themselves. Ethnic men don't get this advantage. Western media (including social media) likes to categorize Indian men as creepy, smelly nerds for example, Asians as meek, small nerds, Middle Eastern men as dangerous, misogynistic backwards ragheads who beat their wives. And while none of those are true, this is what we have to disprove when socializing with others. Notably, liberals and the Left really do not care about the plight of ethnic men. We are not seen as disadvantaged because we are men, and the narrative is that only black men are oppressed.
Black guys also don't do well unless they follow the stereotype (tall, muscular, athletic, etc), but they do get much better representation as a whole in the media, and are sexualized to a certain extent.
I found that most ethnic men live very lonely lives in the West. Among the white friends I have, they all have been in relationships, dated, hooked up, and socialized quite normally. My non-white guy friends on the other hand, most of them are virgins, or they had a lucky streak in highschool that ended abruptly in University. Some have admitted to me that they have seen escorts.
It feels as if trying to play the game normally as an ethnic man gets you nothing. The only ethnic men I know who are getting girlfriends and have sex are those who are doing crime, either selling drugs or they are part of a gang. It's even a common saying among my Middle Eastern friends; "Want a white girl? Sell her drugs." Other successful ethnic men happen to be very tall and goodlooking, or they have musical talent like the Weeknd, who is an Ethiopian immigrant.
The rest live lonely lives, and I know that in the Muslim community, they usually try coping by isolating from mainstream society and being more religious. I know many guys like that. I mean, we will never belong here, so why not try to return to your roots? Of course, many of those guys end up joining paramilitary organizations elsewhere around the World, looking for a purpose and a belonging that they could not find in the West.
Is there a solution to this? I honestly don't know. But these are my thoughts on it.
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