PPEcel
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I will try to keep this post as short and simple as I can.
I'd like to address what I see as troubling reactions from this community to the George Floyd protests. I've seen our members suggest on and off this forum that the protests are the embodiment of liberal virtue-signalling, "psyops", and "media hysteria". It may be true that some Redditcucks are motivated by karma whoring as opposed to a genuine commitment to liberal and democratic values. But I think it would be misguided to dismiss the myriad social and political challenges facing the United States as well as other multiracial, multicultural societies.
The civil unrest in the United States over the past two weeks has offered cause for concern on multiple fronts. We see law enforcement responding to protests against police brutality with police brutality. There are over one hundred incidents of documented violence against journalists covering these events; as if police groups seek to deter freedom of expression and assembly under the guise of public safety. At the same time, the Trump administration and its allies have assumed a dangerously expansive interpretation of executive authority. The White House wants to declare "Antifa" a domestic terrorist organization, despite the facts that "Antifa" is little more than a loosely organized subculture, and the President has no such authority. Meanwhile, the DOJ under AG Barr wants to try petty crime in federal courts - vandalism and looting that is ordinarily left to state and local prosecutors. The logic of Tom Cotton's odious op-ed in the New York Times is in line with the depravity of tear-gassing a park of protestors for a political photo-op.
I now believe more than ever that I was right when I opined here two months ago that the 2020s will be a difficult decade for liberal democracies and civil society. The coronavirus pandemic will accelerate digitalization and the subsequent expansion of online surveillance as well as the erosion of privacy. Authoritarian populism threatens, more than ever, judicial independence and a free press. Economic inequality and ideological polarization threaten to exacerbate social tensions. At this point, democratic backsliding in Eastern Europe and Latin America appears to be an inevitability. Political institutions in Western Europe and North America appear to be more resilient, but will nonetheless face a significant stress test. All of this comes as Chinese and Russian authorities adopt increasingly assertive postures on the international stage.
Some of you are under the impression that we should say "fuck it", that politics is a "cope", simply because society treats subhumans like you and me like pond scum. This attitude is misguided.
Incels are a uniquely demonized community. We are despised by the right because we as manlet framecels fail to uphold their standards of traditional masculinity, and by the left because we are supposedly "misogynists". From the standpoint of what political sciencecels would describe as "agenda dynamics" or "agenda-setting theory", we are a politically convenient excuse for the state to gradually chip away at our civil liberties. In any event that our political rights begin to erode, that respect for those rights begin to erode, we will be amongst the very first to face the consequences. The poor, the ugly, the ethnics -- some of you check all three boxes -- are the least culturally represented and respected groups in society. By that I mean we are the least able to participate effectively in a pluralist political framework.
Just look at what CuckTears has to say about us -- a community of ostensibly liberal individuals who want us monitored, muzzled, or even violently arrested for nothing more than "edginess". Some of their users want us to be held to account under counter-terrorism legislation, to be abused in prison, and for the FBI to become moderators on our forum. Evidently, they have failed to consider the dangerous and absurd precedents that some of their policy prescriptions would set. Governments have enough powers as is to detain violent individuals without the use of "special" counter-terrorism powers -- which pose the risk of running roughshod over due process. Physical and sexual abuse are not normatively desirable elements of the correctional system, and only increase the risk of further recidivism. Limiting the range of protected speech poses the risk of exposing the press and advocacy groups to undue interference.
Likewise, police brutality is an issue we should be concerned with. The unfortunate truth, as human psychology suggests, is that individuals make first impressions of one another based purely on appearances. When a uniformed pig (or a juror) looks at a person, he makes a snapshot judgment of that person's propensity to criminal behaviour -- based on race, age, gender, face, and perceived social class. Do you think a corrupt cop is going to place his wretched knee on the neck of a Boomer or a Stacy? Probably not. If it was the neck of a deformed framelet, though, the public would consider that more palatable.
All I wanted to say is that our permavirginity is not the one and only issue that we face in our lives. There is legitimate discussion to be had, inside and outside the context of inceldom, about civil liberties and political culture -- freedom of expression, online privacy, et cetera. Or about law enforcement and criminal justice -- from use of force procedures, to due process, to sentencing and rehabilitation. Or perhaps regarding the overarching relationship between the state and the individual. I know some of you will disagree with me, of course -- but I seriously think these issues merit at least some discussion if not concern, and we shouldn't have bashed normies too quickly for choosing to put these topics on the forefront of the agenda. After all, we're not immune to social and political paradigm shifts. If anything, given that race, gender, class, and looks remain a factor -- we as subhuman men are even more vulnerable than normies when the state lurches toward its oppressive tendencies.
I'd like to address what I see as troubling reactions from this community to the George Floyd protests. I've seen our members suggest on and off this forum that the protests are the embodiment of liberal virtue-signalling, "psyops", and "media hysteria". It may be true that some Redditcucks are motivated by karma whoring as opposed to a genuine commitment to liberal and democratic values. But I think it would be misguided to dismiss the myriad social and political challenges facing the United States as well as other multiracial, multicultural societies.
The civil unrest in the United States over the past two weeks has offered cause for concern on multiple fronts. We see law enforcement responding to protests against police brutality with police brutality. There are over one hundred incidents of documented violence against journalists covering these events; as if police groups seek to deter freedom of expression and assembly under the guise of public safety. At the same time, the Trump administration and its allies have assumed a dangerously expansive interpretation of executive authority. The White House wants to declare "Antifa" a domestic terrorist organization, despite the facts that "Antifa" is little more than a loosely organized subculture, and the President has no such authority. Meanwhile, the DOJ under AG Barr wants to try petty crime in federal courts - vandalism and looting that is ordinarily left to state and local prosecutors. The logic of Tom Cotton's odious op-ed in the New York Times is in line with the depravity of tear-gassing a park of protestors for a political photo-op.
I now believe more than ever that I was right when I opined here two months ago that the 2020s will be a difficult decade for liberal democracies and civil society. The coronavirus pandemic will accelerate digitalization and the subsequent expansion of online surveillance as well as the erosion of privacy. Authoritarian populism threatens, more than ever, judicial independence and a free press. Economic inequality and ideological polarization threaten to exacerbate social tensions. At this point, democratic backsliding in Eastern Europe and Latin America appears to be an inevitability. Political institutions in Western Europe and North America appear to be more resilient, but will nonetheless face a significant stress test. All of this comes as Chinese and Russian authorities adopt increasingly assertive postures on the international stage.
Some of you are under the impression that we should say "fuck it", that politics is a "cope", simply because society treats subhumans like you and me like pond scum. This attitude is misguided.
Incels are a uniquely demonized community. We are despised by the right because we as manlet framecels fail to uphold their standards of traditional masculinity, and by the left because we are supposedly "misogynists". From the standpoint of what political sciencecels would describe as "agenda dynamics" or "agenda-setting theory", we are a politically convenient excuse for the state to gradually chip away at our civil liberties. In any event that our political rights begin to erode, that respect for those rights begin to erode, we will be amongst the very first to face the consequences. The poor, the ugly, the ethnics -- some of you check all three boxes -- are the least culturally represented and respected groups in society. By that I mean we are the least able to participate effectively in a pluralist political framework.
Just look at what CuckTears has to say about us -- a community of ostensibly liberal individuals who want us monitored, muzzled, or even violently arrested for nothing more than "edginess". Some of their users want us to be held to account under counter-terrorism legislation, to be abused in prison, and for the FBI to become moderators on our forum. Evidently, they have failed to consider the dangerous and absurd precedents that some of their policy prescriptions would set. Governments have enough powers as is to detain violent individuals without the use of "special" counter-terrorism powers -- which pose the risk of running roughshod over due process. Physical and sexual abuse are not normatively desirable elements of the correctional system, and only increase the risk of further recidivism. Limiting the range of protected speech poses the risk of exposing the press and advocacy groups to undue interference.
Likewise, police brutality is an issue we should be concerned with. The unfortunate truth, as human psychology suggests, is that individuals make first impressions of one another based purely on appearances. When a uniformed pig (or a juror) looks at a person, he makes a snapshot judgment of that person's propensity to criminal behaviour -- based on race, age, gender, face, and perceived social class. Do you think a corrupt cop is going to place his wretched knee on the neck of a Boomer or a Stacy? Probably not. If it was the neck of a deformed framelet, though, the public would consider that more palatable.
All I wanted to say is that our permavirginity is not the one and only issue that we face in our lives. There is legitimate discussion to be had, inside and outside the context of inceldom, about civil liberties and political culture -- freedom of expression, online privacy, et cetera. Or about law enforcement and criminal justice -- from use of force procedures, to due process, to sentencing and rehabilitation. Or perhaps regarding the overarching relationship between the state and the individual. I know some of you will disagree with me, of course -- but I seriously think these issues merit at least some discussion if not concern, and we shouldn't have bashed normies too quickly for choosing to put these topics on the forefront of the agenda. After all, we're not immune to social and political paradigm shifts. If anything, given that race, gender, class, and looks remain a factor -- we as subhuman men are even more vulnerable than normies when the state lurches toward its oppressive tendencies.
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