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Mike Tyson is kind of my unofficial role model.

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By the time Tyson grew up in the 1970s and 1980s, Brownsville had become one of Brooklyn's most economically disadvantaged neighbourhoods. The neighbourhood gained notoriety for gang violence and drug-related crime, which were rampant during Tyson's youth. Tyson faced frequent bullying and violence, particularly because he was a shy, overweight child with a lisp. He wasn’t overweight in the medical sense, but he was teased for being heavier than other kids, with rounder features and a soft build—traits that, combined with his introverted demeanour and lisp, made him a target for bullying. Tyson’s family faced significant poverty, and food was often scarce, yet he mentions in his autobiography, 'Undisputed Truth' , that he would sometimes resort to petty theft to get extra food or snacks.

Tyson’s mother reportedly gave him liquor to help him sleep faster, exposing him to substance use at a young age.

"My mother was a complex woman. She had a lot of men issues, you know. She didn't have a good common decency with men. She and men didn't get along well, except her last boyfriend who stayed with her until she died. She was just one of those ladies who had a lot of men admirers. Being one of the strongest women figures in my life and seeing her be disrespected by these men that she accepted...it didn't really allow me to have functional relationships with women. You'll see her and a guy fighting, she scalds the guy with hot water, and the guy beats her. And then the next day, he buys her a present and they're friends again. That's been my life with the women I've been with."

"You know when you're a kid, your mother gives you liquor and marijuana for you, make you think that you're going to sleep or something? My mother was an alcoholic and stuff."


Mike Tyson's father, Jimmy Kirkpatrick, was known to have been involved in a life of crime and was a reputed figure in the underworld, including associations with pimping. He was absent from Tyson's life. In Tyson's autobiography and interviews, he mentions that Kirkpatrick was in and out of his life and that his absence created a void, but Tyson’s real relationship with him was more symbolic than based on a close, familial bond. Tyson had doubts whether Kirkpattrick was his biological father.

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"Well, I don't even feel like talking about it but one day, a guy grabbed me and tried to bring me into a building. I was molested as a child, and it made me be tough for the world I lived in. It doesn't mean I was less of a man because it happened. But I don't like to talk about that, you know. I like to keep that where it was in the past."

Tyson has mentioned in interviews that he sometimes fought adult men, which could include the fathers of kids he grew up with. These encounters were not formal matches but rather spontaneous street fights, often fuelled by tensions in the neighbourhood. Teddy Atlas mentioned Mike being 190 lbs at 13 years old sparring with full grown men, they used to lie about his age to get him to fight older guys.

"My first fight, this guy grabbed my pigeon. I asked for it back, but he slapped me around. He must've been 15, and an older guy, I was 9. I said, "please give me my bird back", and he said "fuck you fat nigga", so he ripped my bird's head off. He hit me with the fucking bird. Some other guy who used to bully me said "yo man, fight him back", and um, I fought back. I never fought nobody before. I fought back, and you know? I can fight real good. So after that, everybody would bring the other kids from different neighbourhoods to fight me for money. Hey, listen...I'm not showing off or bragging. I was just a really good fighter."

By the time he was sent to Tryon School for Boys, a juvenile detention centre, Tyson was accustomed to defending himself and using his physical strength to survive. It was at Tryon that Tyson’s raw fighting ability caught the attention of Bobby Stewart, a former boxer and counsellor, who introduced Tyson to boxing. Stewart saw Tyson's natural power and potential, and after some training, arranged for Tyson to meet the legendary boxing trainer Cus D'Amato.
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13 year old Mike Tyson after his first-ever boxing fight in which he brutally knocked out a 17 year-old.

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What the actual fuck? :feelsbaton:


Despite his early displays of physical power and fighting skill, Tyson was deeply insecure and struggled with self-worth. Tyson himself has spoken openly about feeling weak, shy, and vulnerable as a child, and this insecurity didn’t just vanish with his newfound reputation as a fighter. Even as he became stronger and more capable, that inner self-doubt lingered. Cus instilled in Tyson a sense of purpose, saying things like, “You’re a god,” “You’re unbeatable,” and “You’re going to be a world champion.” These affirmations helped build Tyson’s confidence and taught him to believe in his potential. After Tyson’s mother passed away when he was 16, Cus and his partner, Camille Ewald, became his legal guardians. Tyson moved in with Cus, who took on the role of his mentor and father figure.

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"Cus taught me that boxing isn’t just physical. It’s psychological warfare. You learn to dominate your opponent’s mind before the fight even begins.

"I'm a fucking student of war. I know all the warriors, from Charlemagne, Achilles - the number one warrior of wars he is. From them, Alexander, Napoleon, I know them all. I studied them all. I know the art of fighting, I know the art of war, that's all I've ever studied. That's why I'm so feared, that's why they feared me when I was in the ring. I was an annihilator, that's all I was born for. And now those days are gone, it's empty. I'm nothing. I'm working on being the art of humbleness. That's the reason I'm crying right now - I'm not that person no more. And I miss him. Because sometimes I feel like a little bitch. I don't want that person to come out, because if he does, hell is coming with him."

Holy shit. :ha..feels:

There's a lot I have left to talk about Iron Mike, like the fact that Cus D'Amato passed away just before Tyson became the youngest heavyweight champion in history. I want to discuss the shadow of his rape conviction and the time he spent in prison, which drastically changed the course of his life and career.

Then there's the heartbreak of losing his 4 year old daughter which he blames himself for, since she accidently hug herself on the cord of a treadmill. His financial difficulties, despite once being one of the highest-paid athletes in the world. Tyson has managed to reinvent himself, transitioning from a feared fighter to a figure focused on personal growth and healing. Like he said, he's working on being the art of humbleness.

He was never the same after Cus died. Prime Mike Tyson isn't a myth; it's real. He could've been champion in any era.

Mike Tyson on watching Roberto Durán fight Sugar Ray Leonard on June 20, 1980.

"This is the moment I knew I wanted to be a fighter. Watching two masters fight. Two fighters waiting for a - just setting up a shot, waiting for a moment, but they can't hit. Both guys are fighting, it's almost like the fighting's staged. It's choreographed. They can't hit each other. They were fighting...they fought fifteen rounds with each other, and it was a war, but none of them had a mark on their face. But it was a hard fight, but none of them had a mark on their face. Just master technicians, you know. I didn't really know if I was going to be a fighter or not, but after watching these guys....I knew."

"I'm only fourteen years old when these guys fought, this is 1980. So I'm fourteen years old. And I just thought that (Duran) was the most remarkable person in the world."

Mike Tyson on who he wanted to be when he was younger.

"-It's interesting you say, no, I didn't want to be like Muhammed Ali, because where I came from, Muhammed Ali didn't come from the world I came from. I came from filth and scum and sewage. So I wanted to be mean like Sonny Liston and James Dempsey. I wanted to be ferocious. I wanted to kill you with my stare. I wasn't like Muhammed Ali. But Muhammed Ali is not like, he didn't come from the world I came from."

Mike Tyson on his rape case. (Desiree Washington turned this man into Naofumi Iwatani. He's commented how he doesn't trust any women including his wife. He lashed out at women who tried to flirt with him at parties from anger and fear of being falsely accused again.)

"-It's just a lying, reptilian monstrous young lady. I hate her guts. She put me in that state where...I don't know, I really wish I did now. But now I really do want to rape her and her fucking mama."

Mike Tyson on pain.

"No one's failed more than I did. I deserved all the credit I received. Nobody's seen more than I seen. None of these fighters, none of these athletes. I'm the king of the barbarians...there's no-one who could surpass me in the pain that I've endured."

"Nah, it's never in the past."
 
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Interesting facts?

Mike Tyson has shared a story about an incident at a party where his loud and intimidating behaviour unintentionally frightened Michael Jordan. While Tyson expressed regret for scaring Jordan, reports of Tyson verbally abusing him or other celebrities intervening to prevent harm are not widely substantiated. Michael Jorden left the party early.

Mike Tyson has recounted a confrontation with Brad Pitt involving his ex-wife, Robin Givens. According to Tyson, he caught Pitt with Givens, and Pitt reportedly asked him not to hit him during the encounter before he left.

"You should've seen his face when he saw me. He wasn't Brad now with that reputation he's upholding. And man, he was scared to death."

Mike Tyson was a victim to women foids, such as Desiree Washington who falsely accused him of rape, and Robin Givens who constantly tried to humiliate him even on Live TV.
 
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yh he is pretty cool, but not a role model for me since i cant relate with his 0,0001% genetics
 
Interesting facts?

Mike Tyson has shared a story about an incident at a party where his loud and intimidating behaviour unintentionally frightened Michael Jordan. While Tyson expressed regret for scaring Jordan, reports of Tyson verbally abusing him or other celebrities intervening to prevent harm are not widely substantiated. Michael Jorden left the party early.

Mike Tyson has recounted a confrontation with Brad Pitt involving his ex-wife, Robin Givens. According to Tyson, he caught Pitt with Givens, and Pitt reportedly asked him not to hit him during the encounter before he left.

"You should've seen his face when he saw me. He wasn't Brad now with that reputation he's upholding. And man, he was scared to death."

Mike Tyson was a victim to women foids, such as Desiree Washington who falsely accused him of rape, and Robin Givens who constantly tried to humiliate him even on Live TV.

Here's a video of Mike Tyson playing with his tiger.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZSYHYc8Rc58
 
yh he is pretty cool, but not a role model for me since i cant relate with his 0,0001% genetics
He had awful experiences with women, but I guess he was a sexhaver. He has children. He actually knew Brad Pitt mogged him, lol.
 
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I don't like worshipping genetic top 0.1% dudes who were already mogging and beating grown adults as a 13yo.
 
You care enough to reply and throw insults like some autistic shut-in
> Post story of youngest heavy-weight champion with extraordinary ups and downs in life
"muh worshipping genetics" :feelstastyman:

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Dude has something against autistic people.
 
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Meh, not a big fan of celebrishits, especially athletes who don't really offer much to the collective wellbeing

But, he did overcome struggles & was a good fighter, so fair enough I guess

I like more historical figures, inventors, etc.
> Post story of youngest heavy-weight champion with extraordinary ups and downs in life
"muh worshipping genetics" :feelstastyman:

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Dude has something against autistic people.
He really is the worst user here jfl
 
I made a post about Tyson's technique which might interest you. But you probably already know about how he was trained by d'Amato.

https://incels.is/threads/the-6-4-punch-combination-as-demonstrated-by-tyson.570988/
Oh woah. Checking it out.
Just checked it out. Saved.

Would this channel interest you?

Catskill, NY. He did an interview with George Young the other day who trained with Tyson.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf3ViDz75oU
 
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Meh, not a big fan of celebrishits, especially athletes who don't really offer much to the collective wellbeing

But, he did overcome struggles & was a good fighter, so fair enough I guess

I like more historical figures, inventors, etc.

He really is the worst user here jfl
Completely fair and balanced. I'm just bias since I'm training for competitive boxing, and Tyson stands out. Love fighting.
He really is the worst user here jfl
 
> Post story of youngest heavy-weight champion with extraordinary ups and downs in life
He could only achieve it because he had top 0.1% genetics.
You're basically worshipping genetic luck, which is ridiculous as an incel.
 
He could only achieve it because he had top 0.1% genetics.
Nope. Cus D'Amato said it's 75 percent will, 25 percent skill. You're not going to disgrace his boxing genius or Tyson's effort.
Lennix Lewis is a boxer who could've been a fighter in any era. What are you going to say? He only won because he's 6ft + ?
"It helps when you have talent as long as you have a lot of determination and willpower."

Boxing is art.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GnTk6rN0t7Y
 
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Interesting facts?

Mike Tyson has shared a story about an incident at a party where his loud and intimidating behaviour unintentionally frightened Michael Jordan. While Tyson expressed regret for scaring Jordan, reports of Tyson verbally abusing him or other celebrities intervening to prevent harm are not widely substantiated. Michael Jorden left the party early.

Mike Tyson has recounted a confrontation with Brad Pitt involving his ex-wife, Robin Givens. According to Tyson, he caught Pitt with Givens, and Pitt reportedly asked him not to hit him during the encounter before he left.

"You should've seen his face when he saw me. He wasn't Brad now with that reputation he's upholding. And man, he was scared to death."

Mike Tyson was a victim to women foids, such as Desiree Washington who falsely accused him of rape, and Robin Givens who constantly tried to humiliate him even on Live TV.
Tyson don’t fuck around. Brad Pitt is a faggot.
 
He could only achieve it because he had top 0.1% genetics.
You're basically worshipping genetic luck, which is ridiculous as an incel.
A person who is obsessed with a single thing, to the exclusion of other concerns along with effective guidance from an experienced tutor will always produce superlative excellence.
 
A person who is obsessed with a single thing, to the exclusion of other concerns along with effective guidance from an experienced tutor will always produce superlative excellence.
Has he even seen the work ethic of older boxers? Marvin Hagler? Rocky Marciano? Muhammed Ali?
with effective guidance from an experienced tutor
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Nope. Cus D'Amato said it's 75 percent will, 25 percent skill.
Oh, my bad. If Damato said it it must be true.
And when some Pickup Guru tells you dating is just will and skill instead of looks, you'll believe it, too :feelskek:

A person who is obsessed with a single thing, to the exclusion of other concerns along with effective guidance from an experienced tutor will always produce superlative excellence.
Bluepilled nonsense. Especially in sports, where your physical capabilities, which are largely determined by genetics, have such a big importance.
 
Tyson is based and a decent guy once you get past the macho bullshit.

But, just be a generational talent to overcome the difficulties he had in life still proves true.
 
Oh, my bad. If Damato said it it must be true.
You don't know what you're talking about because you haven't boxed or fought a day of your life. And you know neither people I mentioned. So keep trying to diminish achievements of all fighters. What do you have to say about Dominick Reyes unofficially beating Jon Jones? Or Gilbert Burns taking Khamzat Chimaev to war in their fight? What do you think of Bivol's performace against Beterbiev who's a genetic freak?
Bluepilled nonsense. Especially in sports, where your physical capabilities, which are largely determined by genetics, have such a big importance.
You don't know shit about boxing. Never work hard. Just stay down.
 
If that's what you got from this post, you're actually a faggot. I'm not joking.
I appreciate that his struggles in life and how he overcame them is motivating for you. I get that, truly.

But I'm against celebrating elite athleticism. The reason being that it predominantly serves as entertainment. More than that, however, it is, in fact, a form of worship (it's where the idea of celebrities as "idols" comes from - a form of paganism; I don't expect you to understand this).

It's more sensible and noble to celebrate human genius and accomplishment in the domain of science and mathematics, since those things directly help the whole of humanity in a great many ways, some of which aren't appreciated by the average person because it's not understood by the average person.

The celebration of elite athleticism is more relatable to the lowest common denominator, which is why it's so prevalent.
 
I appreciate that his struggles in life and how he overcame them is motivating for you. I get that, truly.
Alright. Thanks.
But I'm against celebrating elite athleticism. The reason being that it predominantly serves as entertainment. More than that, however, it is, in fact, a form of worship (it's where the idea of celebrities as "idols" comes from - a form of paganism; I don't expect you to understand this).
It's not as straightforward in something like boxing in my opinion. Because even trying to develop the footwork and sparring initially in your earlier years, you really admire the tenacity and strength these fighters have. Like I used to make fun of Paulo Costa for losing his fights, but one MMA conditioning class made my mouth close right after. Bivol's Soviet Style is him perfecting it for decades. Floyd Mayweather's defence is him perfecting it for decades with his ring experience. Finding out how the other guy flinches, using the ring to your advantages, creating space in the clinches, conserving your energy, or developing machine lungs...it's amazing. Even when the other guy loses.

My PT is 17 years old, but he's amazing at fighting and is already a part of MMA scene here in Europe. He was a fast learner, but he works hard.

I can't speak for other sports because I'm bias - I want to become a national level boxer. Kobe is a good example in basketball.

(it's where the idea of celebrities as "idols" comes from - a form of paganism; I don't expect you to understand this).
Like those fags who burst out crying as soon as Taylor Swift breathes, or even when fans obsess over the Oscars. That's pagan-like. I understand.

It's more sensible and noble to celebrate human genius and accomplishment in the domain of science and mathematics, since those things directly help the whole of humanity in a great many ways, some of which aren't appreciated by the average person because it's not understood by the average person.
I can't disagree here. But I won't listen to this.
 
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Alright. Thanks.
:feelsYall:

I want to become a national level boxer.
Then I wish you the best and hope you succeed.

Like those fags who burst out crying as soon as Taylor Swift breathes, or even when fans obsess over the Oscars. That's pagan-like. I understand.
Good. Yes, you understand.

I can't disagree here. But I won't listen to this.
As long as you understand, then I'm OK with that.
 
The celebration of elite athleticism is more relatable to the lowest common denominator, which is why it's so prevalent.
FFS. You guys always do this. _ is low-IQ. Is it low-IQ to become a boxer? Is it then low-IQ to admire and watch tapes of boxers? Is it low-IQ to dedicate your free time to training your body? Boxing is already saving me. If I wanted to be a good fighter alone, I'd just be a hobbyist in my MMA gym. But boxing is making me mentally different and I already feel it.


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/1g44hvt/bivol_on_his_loss/


Look at Bivol. He's such a beautiful fighter with his style. The way he took his lost to Beterbiev is noble.
 
Never work hard. Just stay down.
If working hard would get you somewhere, everybody would do it.
But the world is not like that.
Hard work doesn't make you successful. Hard work and luck do.
Do you know how many men are working hard but get nowhere because they are unlucky?
Bro, you're bluepilled as fuck, it's cringy to watch.
 
FFS. You guys always do this. _ is low-IQ. Is it low-IQ to become a boxer? Is it then low-IQ to admire and watch tapes of boxers? Is it low-IQ to dedicate your free time to training your body? Boxing is already saving me. If I wanted to be a good fighter alone, I'd just be a hobbyist in my MMA gym. But boxing is making me mentally sharp and I already feel it.


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/1g44hvt/bivol_on_his_loss/


Look at Bivol. He's such a beautiful fighter with his style. The way he took his lost to Beterbiev is noble.

I didn't say it's low IQ. Stop sperging. I said that most people can relate to it. Lowest common denominator is the average person (the middle of the bell curve). The why of that is because it's not something that demands a great deal of mental horsepower. That doesn't mean it's for stupid people. JFL
 
If working hard would get you somewhere, everybody would do it.
But the world is not like that.
Hard work doesn't make you successful. Hard work and luck do.
Do you know how many men are working hard but get nowhere because they are unlucky?
Bro, you're bluepilled as fuck, it's cringy to watch.
Don't call me bro. Just leave me alone. I don't want to insult you anymore. It's quite obvious what I meant in boxing.
 
I didn't say it's low IQ. Stop sperging. I said that most people can relate to it. Lowest common denominator is the average person (the middle of the bell curve). The why of that is because it's not something that demands a great deal of mental horsepower. That doesn't mean it's for stupid people. JFL
Fair enough, deserve that. But honest, watch the clip man.
 
Don't call me bro. Just leave me alone. I don't want to insult you anymore. It's quite obvious what I meant in boxing.
Ok, bro.
Good luck in your boxing carreer. Let's see how long it'll take until you're the new world champion. :feelskek:
 
I don't like worshipping genetic top 0.1% dudes who were already mogging and beating grown adults as a 13yo.
Same. These guys don’t realize that people like Mike Tyson would have likely been their bullies in school, or at least wouldn’t have had any interest in being around them.
 

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