MGTOW is a fraud?

[What the fuck]

Seriously.First of all,hi everyone.Long time i don't post here.Last time i posted about sex ads here,in a site that for logic reasons,doesn't need that kind of crap.But i found it again.
So,going to the topic.Is MGTOW A FRAUD??

I see many guys that say, mgtow is for all mens but,it can't be for a guy that never had sex nor casual sex.
Most of mgtow are going their own way,but they can get laid.Even they say that they are decent in terms of looks.
I saw a video of a man teaching mgtow on youtube channel but it was too much hypocrisy.The names of the channes is hellfish mgtow,and is spanish.

Hellfish mgtow was talking about the case of a man in spain,called raúl dg.For those who doesn't know,raul have a physical issue.Even in his voice.There in spain,there are many pua.Or PICK UP ARTISTS.Appearently,they are people who teach seduction to aproach womans.
So,a pua from spain called ALVARO REYES was the teacher of Raul.But Raul isn't attractive.And he got criticed really bad for his physical condition.

The thing is that, helfish mgtow was saying that the case of raul isn't funny but,he made unnecesarry comments like HE PASS THE LIMIT OF UGLINESS.And those kind of things.So i'm sure that hypocrite enjoy it deep inside.
To make it worst,he also said he wasn't laughing about him.He said that he was laughting for the situation he is going trought.Is pretty obvious that also he laughted due to the bad luck raul have.

And many people,in the comments section,said things like "HE PLAY LIFE IN LEGEND MOD" and people laught about it.Of course they laugh,they are not raul.They are not in his shoes.
Even the same Raúl make videos to make fun of himself,but won't be good in long term.He have also a youtube channel.And for many people he is a clown.And of course,meanwhile,they make fun of him.

Another example is that,on comments section people say, that he have frog's eyes.And there's many stupid comments like that on youtube.

Even one guy told another,in a comment,this thing:
"HAHAHAHA YOU MADE MY DAY FOR YOUR COMMENT,THANKS".
That shows the fucking hypocrisy of people.

The only good thing hellfish mgtow saved about raul was that, he have huge balls to go outside and expose himself to such enviroment but,that didn't lead him anywhere with womans,sadly.

Because everybody have preferences.

Like i said,for me,MGTOW is not for eveyman.And i think that many guys do the same shit like womans.Womans say I WANT A MAN THAT......ETC (BUT THEY ARE REFERING TO SPECIFIC MANS.MANS WHO ARE ATTRACTIVE ENOUGH).
This people who wanna teach mgtow do the same.They say MGTOW IS FOR EVERY MAN.

BUT MAYBE THEY ARE REFERING TO "EVERY MAN THAT IS DECENT LOOKING AND ATTRACTIVE".That would make more sense.

Makes me sick the idea of knowing that mens want to be free,but still lie and make their own concepts.
Is so easy to say MGTOW CAN'T BE FOR UGLY GUYS THAT NEVER GOT LAID,BECAUSE WE MGTOW HAD SEX AND WE KNOW HOW IT FEELS.BUT YOU AREN'T MISSING NOTHING SPECIAL.
Yeah right,say the people who already know the experience of have sex.

I can understand that a guy who is mgtow,had sex and have experience and he feels complete.
By saying complete,i mean he feels good with himself,he feels free and he feels with integrity.And someone with integrity is someone who feels complete,i repeat.

But then,when some of those people talk about MGTOW,they don't spread the information in a good way,with integrity.They don't do it completely.They do it partially.
They lie, telling things like:
1-MGTOW IS FOR ALL MENS.
2-SEX IS NOT THAT IMPORTANT.
3-NO FAP IS THE BEST THING.ETC ETC

What are your troughs????

THE FIRST ATTACHED FILE IS ABOUT WHY THE FUCK THIS SEXUAL ADS STILL HERE??????????????
THE SECOND ONE IS THE COMMENT SECTION OF YOUTUBE,OF PEOPLE MAKING FUN OF RAUL.

 

[ControlledInsanity]

Just install an ad blocker already.

 

[acnescarcel]

ads are here to piss off queers

 

[What the fuck]

ads are here to piss off queers

what's a queer???

 

[acnescarcel]

what's a queer???

a fag

 

[FrothySolutions]

what's a queer???

Something like a gay person, I think.

 

[What the fuck]

Nobody will answer about the main theme of this topic???

 

[ControlledInsanity]

Nobody will answer about the main theme of this topic???

tbqh maybe it's just because I've been awake for way too long but I tried reading that and my brain just cannot interpret any of it. It feels like I'm trying to read French hieroglyphs through a keyhole. tl:dr?

 

[What the fuck]

tbqh maybe it's just because I've been awake for way too long but I tried reading that and my brain just cannot interpret any of it. It feels like I'm trying to read French hieroglyphs through a keyhole. tl:dr?

come on,you can't be serious.If i'm too specific and detailed in the topic,it will never end.How it is possible that you don't understand?.I read it and is understandable.Are you trolling me or something?

 

[LDARBuddah]

Mgtow is ultimate cope. Watch Sandman and those guys on Youtube all they talk about is females. Every single video. They are more obsessed than incels even. Gigacope

 

[What the fuck]

Mgtow is ultimate cope. Watch Sandman and those guys on Youtube all they talk about is females. Every single video. They are more obsessed than incels even. Gigacope

Appearently,they are sick of woman's advantages and rights.Example,the case of mans falsely acused and jailed.And mans that commit suicide.That was one of my point.Some mgtow say WE WANT TO GET RID OF THOSE BULLSHIT AND HAVE OUR FREEDOMS AS PERSONS.HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PATRIARCHY.
Also,many of those mgtow hate womans for many logic reasons.How many womens are gold diggers right?
That frustration for knowing that you can't know when you can trust somebody or not,is really hard.
Me personally,seeing all those mans being jailed falsely,accused of things they dont commit,or mans pointed by many feminist like potential rapers,make me want to reject every woman on earth.I know there are good and healthy relationships and real feminists who want the real equality but,for me,all those problems,is a turn OFF.But thats another story.Like i said before,everybody have standards and preferences.
Many mgtow say SEX IS NOT IMPORTANT but they had sex in the past and they have casual in the present day.So that for me,is so unrespectful for those mens who can't get laid.Do you know eggy/eggman? Greetings man.

 

[ControlledInsanity]

come on,you can't be serious.If i'm too specific and detailed in the topic,it will never end.How it is possible that you don't understand?.I read it and is understandable.Are you trolling me or something?

Here I took the time to translate the original post into something more readable:

MGTOW is a fraud, seriously. Hello everyone, I haven't posted here in a long time. The last time I did was about sex ads that are illogical to have on incels.is. It doesn't need that crap. Anyway, on to our topic: Is MGTOW a fraud?

MGTOW guys say that "MGTOW is for all men" but I think it can't be for virgin guys. Most MGTOW men can get laid and claim to have decent looks. There is a spanish MGTOW youtube channel, "Hellfish", who teaches MGTOW but it is too hypocritical.

Hellfish has a video discussing a man in spain, "Raúl dg", who has a physical and vocal condition. Raúl is not attractive. Spain has many PUA who tech seduction and approaching women. Raúl was taught PUA by Alvaro Reyes, a Spanish PUA. Raúl got critized badly for his physical appearance.

Hellfish implied that Raúl's case is not funny while making unnecessary comments like "He passed the limit of ugliness" and other cruel remarks. I am sure that Hellfish enjoys his hypocrisy deep inside. Worse yet, he claimed not to be laughing at Raúl but instead to be laughing for the situation Raúl was going through. Although it is obvious that Hellfish was laughing at Raúl's bad luck.

Many commenters posted things like "He plays life on legend mode." and people laugh about that. Of course they laugh. They are not Raúl. They are not in his shoes. Even Raúl makes videos on his own Youtube channel which poke fun at himself, but which cannot be good for him long term. He is a clown to many people and, of course, they make fun of him.

As another example, people comment how Raúl supposedly has frog's eyes and many other degrading Youtube comments. One guy even posted "HAHAHAHA You made my day for your comment, thanks." This just shows the fucking hypocrisy of people.

The only nice thing Hellfish said about Raúl was that he has huge balls to be able to go outside and expose himself to such an environment but that doesn't lead him anywhere with women, sadly. Everybody has preferences.

For me, MGTOW is not for every man, like I said earlier. I think that many guys do the same shit that women do. Women say "I want a man that... Etc" although they are referring to specific men, men who are attractive enough. These people who want to teach MGTOW do the same thing as these women. They assume MGTOW is for every man.

But maybe the are referring to "Every man that is decent looking and attractive" which would make more sense.

The idea of knowing that men want to be free while still lying and making their own concepts makes me sick. It is so easy to say "MGTOW can't be applied to ugly guys that never get laid because MGTOW have sex and we know how it feels. But you aren't missing anything special." Yeah right, say people who already have experienced sex.

I can understand that a guy who is MGTOW has had sex and experiences which allow him to feel complete. By saying complete, I mean he feels good about himself. He feels free and as though he has integrity. And someone with integrity is someone who feels complete, as I said.

When some of those people talk about MGTOW they don't spread the information in a good way with integrity. They don't do it completely, they do it partially. They lie, telling people things like:

1 - MGTOW is for all men.

2 - Sex is not that important.

3 - No fap is the best thing ever.

etc, etc

What are your thoughts?

NOTE: The first attached file is about the sexual ads that are still here.
The second attached file is the people making fun of Raúl in the comment section of Youtube.

 

[What the fuck]

Here I took the time to translate the original post into something more readable:

wasn't necessary.I changed it 4 days ago,on monday 3.Just read it again when you have time.I would like to hear an answer.Greetings.

 

[What the fuck]

Well guys i just forgot to install the damn adblock.Now i will do it.I forget things so easily.I entered to read a post and i found this fucking picture.Then i remembered i had to install de adblock.The curious thing is that i didn't feel anything nor have a boner.
May be due to the fucking porn that exaggerate eveything.
How you guys cope with loneliness???? i am thinking in lowing my sexual libido with natural foods to see if work.Did anyone try the no fap "myth" method???
Enought of this bullshit of ads.Im sick of them.

 

[Incellectual]

Are you schizophrenic?

I think he's just not a native speaker

 

[NotQuiteChadLite]

 

[What the fuck]

HAHAHA MAN!!!! I AM TALKING SERIOUSLY!!!!

Are you schizophrenic?

hahaha!!!......like Incellectual said,im not native speaker.So i find sometimes difficult to make a correct sentence.Sometimes i forget words and other ones i don't put the correct ones because i forget how to put them properly.I write while i think.I don't have a damn text file or notepad done before i post something.
Incellectual could figure out i am not native speaker.Uggo,Your level of speculation IS NOT OVER 9000!!!! xP
Yeah i made a mistake.Instead of say "THE adblock" i said "DE adblock".
Forgive me UGGO MONGO.Sorry MR.Perfect,I didn't meant to make your eyes hurt xDDD
I didn't know that making gramatical mistakes in foreign language,would make me schizophrenic.HAHAHAAA!!!!

 

[FrothySolutions]

I think the prevailing opinion here is that MGTOW isn't for all men, or even most men.

 

[What the fuck]

I think the prevailing opinion here is that MGTOW isn't for all men, or even most men.

But it have sense.Most mgtow have casual sex,a thing that other mans can't get.And,if those man choose to go with an escort or something,maybe the hookers will charge more money.
I road stories like that.They want more money if you are not attractive enough.Is a type of compensation.
It's as if those women were ""wasting their time with those guys"", when they could be with ""someone worthwhile and more attractive"".
It sounds twisted,but i perceive it that way.

 

[Ignas]

MGTOW is only for men who are able to get sex and relationship but choose not to, as they've seen female nature. Men GOING Their Own Way, means they choose that kind of life. Men who can't both get laid and get into relationship can't be MGTOW, they'll be called Men Sent Their Own Way

 

[What the fuck]

MGTOW is only for men who are able to get sex and relationship but choose not to, as they've seen female nature. Men GOING Their Own Way, means they choose that kind of life. Men who can't both get laid and get into relationship can't be MGTOW, they'll be called Men Sent Their Own Way

Men sent their own way?? Sounds rude but is legit.They would be the TFL right?
I told a mgtow guy that a true forced loneliness can't be mgtow but the man told me that,just because you make the decision to not depend of womans,you can go your own way and pursue more important things.
But i refused his answer because was stupid.
I saw mgtow guys telling things like YOU AREN'T MISSING ANYTHING OUT THERE.But they had sex before and know what it feels.

Ignas,we know everyone want to survive and reach their own happiness.I understand many mans are sick of the fake acusations from womans and their behaviours.And i understand man want to get rid of that pressure.
But mgtow mans want to see loyalty and trust.
And the worst part is that,they are not telling the truth,out there.And i can't get why.Most mgtow never show their faces due to the fear of losing their jobs etc etc
They want to see honesty,but they don't show the same.Everytime i talked with a mgtow,never told me YES,TFL CAN'T BE MGTOW.ever.
I found this.Please check it.

 

[Deleted member 11015]

That man is a truecel. He is definitely a virgin and is using MGTOW as a COPE.

 

[What the fuck]

That man is a truecel. He is definitely a virgin and is using MGTOW as a COPE.

how do you know?????????

 

[Weed]

You need [NSFW] tag to your thread t b h
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[Deleted member 4159]

Alot of the big MGTOW youtube channels are shills. But the philosophy itself is legit.

 

[What the fuck]

You need [NSFW] tag to your thread t b h
b u d d y
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Any other joke you want to make,pal? You wanna post a real answer or something? NSFW? Yeah i get it.I posted those sexual stupid pics of those FUCKING ADS!!! Oh sorry,i said "FUCKING ads".That word is also used for........xxx
My bad.
Or maybe i should tag this post with something like [PIECE OF SHIT THREAD].What do you think?

 

[Ignas]

Men sent their own way?? Sounds rude but is legit.They would be the TFL right?
I told a mgtow guy that a true forced loneliness can't be mgtow but the man told me that,just because you make the decision to not depend of womans,you can go your own way and pursue more important things.
But i refused his answer because was stupid.
I saw mgtow guys telling things like YOU AREN'T MISSING ANYTHING OUT THERE.But they had sex before and know what it feels.

Ignas,we know everyone want to survive and reach their own happiness.I understand many mans are sick of the fake acusations from womans and their behaviours.And i understand man want to get rid of that pressure.
But mgtow mans want to see loyalty and trust.
And the worst part is that,they are not telling the truth,out there.And i can't get why.Most mgtow never show their faces due to the fear of losing their jobs etc etc
They want to see honesty,but they don't show the same.Everytime i talked with a mgtow,never told me YES,TFL CAN'T BE MGTOW.ever.
I found this.Please check it.

Extreme amount of copes he got there I see. I suspect that he doesn't attract women, as he always says that not being attractive to women is a good thing. He looks one of the truest virgins btw
Being rejected is never good. The truth is men have biological purpose, which is procreating. Plus as an emotional beings, we need love and affection, romantically. If we don't attract women, which makes it impossible for us to get those things, we're fucked.
He says all the time that TFL ain't missing anything, while obviously we miss various amounts of beautiful things in life such as teen love, true affection, and pure unconditional love, which are all in romantic terms. What's tragic is no amount of money can buy this things. No other happiness can make up for these. MGTOW=Cope

 

[Weed]

Any other joke you want to make,pal? You wanna post a real answer or something? NSFW? Yeah i get it.I posted those sexual stupid pics of those FUCKING ADS!!! Oh sorry,i said "FUCKING ads".That word is also used for........xxx
My bad.
Or maybe i should tag this post with something like [PIECE OF SHIT THREAD].What do you think?

 

[What the fuck]

Extreme amount of copes he got there I see. I suspect that he doesn't attract women, as he always says that not being attractive to women is a good thing. He looks one of the truest virgins btw
Being rejected is never good. The truth is men have biological purpose, which is procreating. Plus as an emotional beings, we need love and affection, romantically. If we don't attract women, which makes it impossible for us to get those things, we're fucked.
He says all the time that TFL ain't missing anything, while obviously we miss various amounts of beautiful things in life such as teen love, true affection, and pure unconditional love, which are all in romantic terms. What's tragic is no amount of money can buy this things. No other happiness can make up for these. MGTOW=Cope

Finally,a very nice and honest reply,and not because is what i want to read or see,is because is the truth.Thanks for your answer.
I really wish mgtow guys say what you said just in your reply.I see many guys becoming mgtow and they say MGTOW IS SUCH A REAL LIFE PHILOSOPHY AND MINDSET.But never ever say what you said.Is so simple right?
Yes you are right.As humans we feel,receive and give if there's can be a proper exchange of needs.Of course the word LOVE is relative.And love can be like happiness.Can happen in specific times.As humans,we aren't every single day feeling love or happiness.But you said the true.If we can't have one thing,we won't be able to have the others.Like you said,if we can't get in a relationship,we won't adquire the things that we consider important to us as living beings.Greetings man.

Hahaha you crazy fool.
Interesting,you made more than 7000 messages.Now i know why you made so much.I'm sure you posted thousands of crappy comments like this one about autism.But +7000 is not that bad.Keep it up champ!!! xD