Mentalcels: What is your plan to break out of inceldom?

[FACEandLMS]

Read the bold only if you are ADHD:

If you recognize that your brain, social anxiety, lack of friends, aspergers, BDD, etc are part or all of why you are incel - if you are a mentalcel - what is your plan for breaking out of inceldom?

Inb4 "I will looksmax til I'm an 8/10 then will be approached by women".

Hate to break it to you but that's wrong on 2 counts.

1. You will probably never be able to looksmax to the point where you will be 8/10 in looks if you aren't close to it already.
2. If you're the type of person who, even after looksmaxxing to an 8 will not approach women, then you are probably the type of person who will even fuck things up when women approach you.


Also, even if you made it to an 8/10, it will still be inefficient to sit around waiting for a woman to approach you. Do you understand how human biology works? It's unfair but it's the way it is: men have to do most of the approaching. Chad doesn't just sit around and get approached. He actually does some. He even gets the odd rejection: this may be from women who pre-emptively shut him down to avoid being hurt later or cuz they have bad self-esteem. So even as a Chad, you would still be rejected in certain circumstances, so if your plan is to never be rejected then you will probably never approach either.

So, in concrete terms, explain:

1) What is your current looks level? What facial flaws do you have? What level could you reach with looksmaxxing?
2) After you're looksmaxxed, how do you get to know girls? Where do you meet them? Do you see your anxiety/aspergers being completely overlooked by women after you looksmax?
3) How do you keep a girl if you have nothing to say ever, you are always anxious, you are too aspie to have normie conversations?

I've never read a mentalcel talk about how he actually gets a gf/sex beyond "I will looksmax then it will happen". Explain it, please.

Note: I'm not trying to be a dick to mentalcels; I want to understand if they have thought this stuff through.

 

[modus_coperandi]

Why is Sparky not on your list if you took Framecel in? Do you think he mogs him?

 

[Framecel222]

Why is Sparky not on your list if you took Framecel in? Do you think he mogs him?

This. Even though he's a manlet Sparky mogs me hard. This is further evidenced by the fact that he's had 2 girlfriends and I've had 0.

 

[Machiavelli]

im taking adderall and that works wonders for my ADD

 

[Framecel222]

I don't think there's anyone on here who admits to being a non-ugly mentalcel.

 

[FACEandLMS]

im taking adderall and that works wonders for my ADD

So you take adderall and then a gf climbs into your house through an open window?

How do you get the gf/sex?

 

[Machiavelli]

So you take adderall and then a gf climbs into your house through an open window?

How do you get the gf/sex?

frauding aka jaw jutting 

i have huge nose and recessed lower third 

jaw jutting makes me look human

 

[Framecel222]

frauding aka jaw jutting 

i have huge nose and recessed lower third 

jaw jutting makes me look human

 

[Machiavelli]

got to do what you go to do man 

I’m on that bimax+genio+rhino train 

brb gonna spend upwards of 60k to look human

 

[Richard spencer]

1.I'm 2/10 now severe acne fat head,shit body,
I believe 7-8/10 after looksmaxxed,
2.girls just go to good looking guys no effort nee
ded.yes girls don't care about any mental illness anxiety awkwardness or any other bill shut other than looks.
3.who cares about keeping them?

 

[torujo]

tfw 5'6 3/10 schizotypal subhuman

 

[Machiavelli]

1.I'm 2/10 now severe acne fat head,shit body,
I believe 7-8/10 after looksmaxxed,
2.girls just go to good looking guys no effort nee
ded.yes girls don't care about any mental illness anxiety awkwardness or any other bill shut other than looks.
3.who cares about keeping them?

2 TO 8??? 

FUCKING CAGE 

5.5 at best and the surgeon doesn’t fuck you up

 

[Framecel222]

got to do what you go to do man 

I’m on that bimax+genio+rhino train 

brb gonna spend upwards of 60k to look human

Okay but don't jut, that's autistic.

1.I'm 2/10 now severe acne fat head,shit body,
I believe 7-8/10 after looksmaxxed,
2.girls just go to good looking guys no effort nee
ded.yes girls don't care about any mental illness anxiety awkwardness or any other bill shut other than looks.
3.who cares about keeping them?

You're gonna go from 2 to 8 without surgery? Yeah right.

 

[Machiavelli]

Okay but don't jut, that's autistic.


You're gonna go from 2 to 8 without surgery? Yeah right.

I’m not jutting enough where my under bite becomes clear 

I only jut far enough so my lower lip is in line with my upper lip and my chin nearly reaches optimal projection too

 

[Deleted member 1983]

Im pretty sure mentalcels are just as fucked as other incels unless they have chad looks. But if you have mentalcel problems plus shitty frame, shitty face, its definitely over. id say 50% of mentalcels are fakecels who are too young to even be incel.

 

[Zielony4]

Aren't mentalcels just the people who think it's in their head and don't try at all?

 

[FACEandLMS]

frauding aka jaw jutting 

i have huge nose and recessed lower third 

jaw jutting makes me look human

So after you jut, do you approach women or do they just manifest into your room? Explain the bit how you get a girl.

 

[Machiavelli]

So after you jut, do you approach women or do they just manifest into your room? Explain the bit how you get a girl.

I’m in school so situations just happen

 

[Deleted member 306]

Mentalcel is 100% cope. If you don't have friends you are ugly. See, to be NT you have to spend time with people but if you are ugly people will ostracize you so you end uo alone and weird.

 

[kvn]

do i look like a guy with a plan?

seriously now, i completely gave up several years ago. The plan is to moneycel a little and get rich enough to fuck whores

 

[NegroKing]

What PSL rating do you give Framecel222?

 

[AlexanderR97]

get gyno surgery tbh

 

[QuantumDummy]

Aren't mentalcels just the people who think it's in their head and don't try at all?

I'm ugly and mentalcel, nothing worse.

 

[Octopusgun2]

Dude, now I know you can’t rate for shit. Those in your Chadlites list are AVERAGE at best. And Sparky lives in London (I think) and if you live in a major city and aren’t at least a 7/10 then there’s no way you’d get a relationship without getting cucked within the next two milliseconds

 

[NegroKing]

5.5 PSLI

So that’s Chadlite status?

 

[NegroKing]

No it’s not. That’s just slightly above average. Mid normie tier.

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I don’t live near London but I do live in a major city. I’m glad I have looksmaxing potential to get to a 7/10 but I just worry that it may still not be enough.

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I thought PSL ratings were 1.5 points lower than real life. So if that’s the case he’d be a 7/10 real life.

 

[QuantumDummy]

Can the mods create a seperate section specifically for you lookism homos??? Like damn, thread after thread asking other men to rate each other, shit's annoying now. I thought yall liked women.

 

[Mr_Mercedes]

My asperger level is too high to ever get a non-obese gf

To reach anywhere near 8/10:

I would need a nosejob, and it'd probably take 18 months for me to buff up, I tried before for months straight and noticed very litte gains

Positives though:

Luckily Im just about 6', never been fat, have great forward growth, positive c-tilt, high cheekbones, wide face, well developed chin, not a Chad square jaw, but a much better jawline than average, White

Unfixables:  smal dick (so it's over regardless), weak voice, mental illnesses, and neuro-atypical (autism), awkward frame (my ribcage structure especially)

 

[jagged0]

GTFO fakecels.

 

[NegroKing]

Chadlite starts at a PSL 7

But you said he’s average whereas he’d be 7/10 irl so not average.

 

[blickpall]

1) What is your current looks level? What facial flaws do you have? What level could you reach with looksmaxxing?
2) After you're looksmaxxed, how do you get to know girls? Where do you meet them? Do you see your anxiety/aspergers being completely overlooked by women after you looksmax?
3) How do you keep a girl if you have nothing to say ever, you are always anxious, you are too aspie to have normie conversations?

First of all, great thread.

1) I probably suck at rating, especially myself, but I think I'm 4/10. My major facial flaws include a crooked nose and extra-large ears, soft chin and jawline because of bloat, a few moles, inability to grow facial hair that is presentable. I have decent harmony, I like to think, which is hard to believe on paper so perhaps I'm just lying to myself. I also have a babyface so that estranges a significant demographic of women my age, I think. If I truly reach looksmax with surgery and gymceling, I think I could be a 6-7/10 Chadlite.

2) I would go out to bars and parties like I do now. Most of the female interaction I've had in the past couple years outside of work or academic settings (like, professors, advisors, etc.) has been through volunteering to set up parties for a couple of communities in the nearby metropolis. Normally it is mostly guys there, and I go with a friend or two to not make it seem like I am a total loner. We engage with other guys and work together on small projects, and then when the party starts, these guys usually introduce us to their social circle. I don't see my anxiety being completely overlooked by women, which might be the reason why I've never really committed to looksmaxing and went full studycel instead. My real hope is that there may be one who is gracious/patient enough with me, or has similar issues as I do. I've met one over the summer who I really felt comfortable with and I felt like there was a connection there, but obviously I was just chasing unicorns. In the end I realized I was an orbiter. However, for that month that we spoke, I actually had gotten over a lot of my inhibition because I truly felt comfortable talking to her because it felt like I had passed the first hurdle of approaching (though that wasn't really intentional), and then the goal felt like it was right in front of my face so I forged through the anxiety (heart was definitely still beating like crazy and palms were sweaty). I think I managed to carry myself well once I got to that point.

3) Sort of explained above. Once I'm "in the zone" and comfortable enough (can never be truly fully comfortable anymore, it seems), I don't think I am much different from other normal people. Yea, I say retarded shit sometimes, but that is usually outweighed by everything else I say. I feel like I have a lot of things to talk about, and can speak intelligently about them. The major hurdle is getting to that stage in the first place, and with the current dating marketplace being the way it is, I feel like I will never be able to adapt.

I guess if I had to summarize, I would say that it is approach and rejection anxiety. I hate feeling like I bother people (unless I'm doing it on purpose lol), yes even women I don't know or technically care about. I hate feeling like I'm unwanted, and rejection obviously brings that right in front of your face. I am not that great at reading signals, even ones outside of romantic signals. I tend to over analyze, over think, and then my anxiety takes over and I just lock down and end up sitting in silence by myself, tortured mentally by myself. If I could get past that, get to that comfort zone with at least a looksmatch that is "my type," then I think I could actually have a decent outcome. Being more attractive would make getting to that point easier once I've jumped over the hurdle of inhibition, I like to think.

EDIT: Important note/tactic: I do drugs which lower my inhib, also drink. The trick is finding the gold spot where you are not too fucked up to be retarded, but fucked up enough to let go of worldly social fears. Or be talking to a girl just as fucked up as you, I guess.

Looking forward to your feedback, @FACEandLMS

 

[ironcrusher38]

I can have arranged marriage at worst after 25.

 

[modus_coperandi]

This. Even though he's a manlet Sparky mogs me hard. This is further evidenced by the fact that he's had 2 girlfriends and I've had 0.

Didn't mean to say that you don't belong there though. Would just be unfair to include you and not him.

 

[Zielony4]

I'm ugly and mentalcel, nothing worse.

If you're ugly then it isn't in your head. It's actually real.

 

[VLÖ]

If you're ugly then it isn't in your head. It's actually real.

You can be ugly and autistic too. At that point you better pray that you're low functioning or just end it. There's no way to recover from that.

 

[CamelBlueFilters]

I don't think there is a plan for autism. There is no magical therapy or other scam to fix it. I am stuck with my shitty brain.

 

[QuantumDummy]

If you're ugly then it isn't in your head. It's actually real.

Wow, you learn something new everyday.

 

[Mahlo]

I have no plans to break out of inceldom because I no longer care about being incel. I am at peace with myself.

 

[FACEandLMS]

First of all, great thread.

1) I probably suck at rating, especially myself, but I think I'm 4/10. My major facial flaws include a crooked nose and extra-large ears, soft chin and jawline because of bloat, a few moles, inability to grow facial hair that is presentable. I have decent harmony, I like to think, which is hard to believe on paper so perhaps I'm just lying to myself. I also have a babyface so that estranges a significant demographic of women my age, I think. If I truly reach looksmax with surgery and gymceling, I think I could be a 6-7/10 Chadlite.

2) I would go out to bars and parties like I do now. Most of the female interaction I've had in the past couple years outside of work or academic settings (like, professors, advisors, etc.) has been through volunteering to set up parties for a couple of communities in the nearby metropolis. Normally it is mostly guys there, and I go with a friend or two to not make it seem like I am a total loner. We engage with other guys and work together on small projects, and then when the party starts, these guys usually introduce us to their social circle. I don't see my anxiety being completely overlooked by women, which might be the reason why I've never really committed to looksmaxing and went full studycel instead. My real hope is that there may be one who is gracious/patient enough with me, or has similar issues as I do. I've met one over the summer who I really felt comfortable with and I felt like there was a connection there, but obviously I was just chasing unicorns. In the end I realized I was an orbiter. However, for that month that we spoke, I actually had gotten over a lot of my inhibition because I truly felt comfortable talking to her because it felt like I had passed the first hurdle of approaching (though that wasn't really intentional), and then the goal felt like it was right in front of my face so I forged through the anxiety (heart was definitely still beating like crazy and palms were sweaty). I think I managed to carry myself well once I got to that point.

3) Sort of explained above. Once I'm "in the zone" and comfortable enough (can never be truly fully comfortable anymore, it seems), I don't think I am much different from other normal people. Yea, I say retarded shit sometimes, but that is usually outweighed by everything else I say. I feel like I have a lot of things to talk about, and can speak intelligently about them. The major hurdle is getting to that stage in the first place, and with the current dating marketplace being the way it is, I feel like I will never be able to adapt.

I guess if I had to summarize, I would say that it is approach and rejection anxiety. I hate feeling like I bother people (unless I'm doing it on purpose lol), yes even women I don't know or technically care about. I hate feeling like I'm unwanted, and rejection obviously brings that right in front of your face. I am not that great at reading signals, even ones outside of romantic signals. I tend to over analyze, over think, and then my anxiety takes over and I just lock down and end up sitting in silence by myself, tortured mentally by myself. If I could get past that, get to that comfort zone with at least a looksmatch that is "my type," then I think I could actually have a decent outcome. Being more attractive would make getting to that point easier once I've jumped over the hurdle of inhibition, I like to think.

EDIT: Important note/tactic: I do drugs which lower my inhib, also drink. The trick is finding the gold spot where you are not too fucked up to be retarded, but fucked up enough to let go of worldly social fears. Or be talking to a girl just as fucked up as you, I guess.

Looking forward to your feedback, @FACEandLMS

Well, as mentalcels go, it sounds like you do more than the average mentalcel PSLer. Are you actually willing to get a rhinoplasty? That could be done within a 6 months, after researching, etc. Be thankful that your jaw isn't your biggest problem. Jaw surgery requires 100s of visits to orthos, surgeons, braces, anaesthetists, etc.

I don't get the feeling that you can be somewhat sexually aggressive though. You seem more the type of guy to get a oneitis and try to sit on the periphery of her life until she gives you the green light, rather than the kind of guy to go mass-approaching and see what happens. I'm not saying that the former is a bad thing. That's definitely my M.O. these days, since being blackpilled. Before, I did mass-approach and it was inefficient with my face. But at least I was able to find that killer instinct within. It's in there! 

You mention that you're not great at reading signals, which suggests to me you have little interaction with people, are socially anxious or are maybe even a bit aspie. I was the opposite. I couldn't read signs BEFORE being blackpilled. Now I pick up on signs INSTANTLY. I can tell if a woman finds me subhuman without her looking at me. A guy befriended me on my youtube channel. We speak on Skype. He shows me screenshots from his conversations with flakey women in his native Belgian French. Even though the language barrier, I advise him on when the woman seems uninterested. The black pill has heightened my awareness.

 

[justforlulzandkeks]

My brain is fucked in addition to my face
I don't know what the fuck I'm supposed to do
I just want to rope tbh

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First of all, great thread.

1) I probably suck at rating, especially myself, but I think I'm 4/10. My major facial flaws include a crooked nose and extra-large ears, soft chin and jawline because of bloat, a few moles, inability to grow facial hair that is presentable. I have decent harmony, I like to think, which is hard to believe on paper so perhaps I'm just lying to myself. I also have a babyface so that estranges a significant demographic of women my age, I think. If I truly reach looksmax with surgery and gymceling, I think I could be a 6-7/10 Chadlite.

2) I would go out to bars and parties like I do now. Most of the female interaction I've had in the past couple years outside of work or academic settings (like, professors, advisors, etc.) has been through volunteering to set up parties for a couple of communities in the nearby metropolis. Normally it is mostly guys there, and I go with a friend or two to not make it seem like I am a total loner. We engage with other guys and work together on small projects, and then when the party starts, these guys usually introduce us to their social circle. I don't see my anxiety being completely overlooked by women, which might be the reason why I've never really committed to looksmaxing and went full studycel instead. My real hope is that there may be one who is gracious/patient enough with me, or has similar issues as I do. I've met one over the summer who I really felt comfortable with and I felt like there was a connection there, but obviously I was just chasing unicorns. In the end I realized I was an orbiter. However, for that month that we spoke, I actually had gotten over a lot of my inhibition because I truly felt comfortable talking to her because it felt like I had passed the first hurdle of approaching (though that wasn't really intentional), and then the goal felt like it was right in front of my face so I forged through the anxiety (heart was definitely still beating like crazy and palms were sweaty). I think I managed to carry myself well once I got to that point.

3) Sort of explained above. Once I'm "in the zone" and comfortable enough (can never be truly fully comfortable anymore, it seems), I don't think I am much different from other normal people. Yea, I say retarded shit sometimes, but that is usually outweighed by everything else I say. I feel like I have a lot of things to talk about, and can speak intelligently about them. The major hurdle is getting to that stage in the first place, and with the current dating marketplace being the way it is, I feel like I will never be able to adapt.

I guess if I had to summarize, I would say that it is approach and rejection anxiety. I hate feeling like I bother people (unless I'm doing it on purpose lol), yes even women I don't know or technically care about. I hate feeling like I'm unwanted, and rejection obviously brings that right in front of your face. I am not that great at reading signals, even ones outside of romantic signals. I tend to over analyze, over think, and then my anxiety takes over and I just lock down and end up sitting in silence by myself, tortured mentally by myself. If I could get past that, get to that comfort zone with at least a looksmatch that is "my type," then I think I could actually have a decent outcome. Being more attractive would make getting to that point easier once I've jumped over the hurdle of inhibition, I like to think.

EDIT: Important note/tactic: I do drugs which lower my inhib, also drink. The trick is finding the gold spot where you are not too fucked up to be retarded, but fucked up enough to let go of worldly social fears. Or be talking to a girl just as fucked up as you, I guess.

Looking forward to your feedback, @FACEandLMS

Are you NT?

 

[blickpall]

Well, as mentalcels go, it sounds like you do more than the average mentalcel PSLer. Are you actually willing to get a rhinoplasty? That could be done within a 6 months, after researching, etc. Be thankful that your jaw isn't your biggest problem. Jaw surgery requires 100s of visits to orthos, surgeons, braces, anaesthetists, etc.

I've had two nose surgeries before, when I broke my nose in the first place and when they had to straighten the deviated septum, so I'm not too scared about that. It's the cost that would kill me since I doubt it will be covered by insurance. Maybe I should just break it again? Haha TT_TT My jaw isn't the greatest but definitely doesn't need surgery. Just needs bloatloss.

I don't get the feeling that you can be somewhat sexually aggressive though. You seem more the type of guy to get a oneitis and try to sit on the periphery of her life until she gives you the green light, rather than the kind of guy to go mass-approaching and see what happens. I'm not saying that the former is a bad thing. That's definitely my M.O. these days, since being blackpilled. Before, I did mass-approach and it was inefficient with my face. But at least I was able to find that killer instinct within. It's in there!

You pretty much hit it right on the money. Approaching is hard enough for me; initiating physical contact is practically impossible. I am so paranoid that I will misstep somehow. The well-ingrained fear of rejection now has the added fear of being labelled a sexual harasser, and my career/education getting fucked for life.

You mention that you're not great at reading signals, which suggests to me you have little interaction with people, are socially anxious or are maybe even a bit aspie. I was the opposite. I couldn't read signs BEFORE being blackpilled. Now I pick up on signs INSTANTLY. I can tell if a woman finds me subhuman without her looking at me. A guy befriended me on my youtube channel. We speak on Skype. He shows me screenshots from his conversations with flakey women in his native Belgian French. Even though the language barrier, I advise him on when the woman seems uninterested. The black pill has heightened my awareness.

I would say that I'm not great at picking up on attraction signals, largely because I have no clue if I've ever seen one. I am pretty adept at picking up on "don't bother me" signals because I see those everywhere. It's so hard to tell if what I am perceiving is genuine or contrived by my anxiety, because right now I feel like every person I see has the "don't bother me" aura and none have the "I'd like to chat" aura, so I just let things happen TO me as opposed to me going out and doing anything. My everyday surroundings are people either commuting or in a classroom, no one ever chatting or looking receptive, ever. When I go to bars, there are almost never any single women that I can identify, and if they are then they are in groups and despite having read PUA stuff years ago, I just don't approach because they too seem absorbed in their social interactions so I don't want to "interrupt."

I was actually great over text way back in the days of AIM/MSN etc., but I feel so out of touch with modern dating technology like Tinder and the people on it. I feel like my only chance is, as I mentioned, when I am somewhere volunteering and meet other people while doing something else, so the social component is secondary to some other primary objective.

Are you NT?

No.

 

[SlayOrDie]

1) What is your current looks level? What facial flaws do you have? What level could you reach with looksmaxxing?
Currently 6/10. Facial flaws include: Poor skin (wrinkles,acne,large pores,uneven skin-tone,bulging vein on forehead,), Negative canthal tilt, NW2 hairline.
Could possibly reach 7/10 with hair transplant+better skingame+getting more lean and muscular (20+% bodyfat atm)

2) After you're looksmaxxed, how do you get to know girls? Where do you meet them? Do you see your anxiety/aspergers being completely overlooked by women after you looksmax?
I am already getting approached by girls and getting IoI's when I am in clubs/bars, but with anxiety/lack of social skills it turns out nothing ever happens unless I sexually escalate/flirt myself. So yeah I hope looksmaxing halo will make it slightly easier, but it will probably not fix it entirely. Looksmaxing will also get me interest from higher SMV girls which might make me more motivated to try.

3) How do you keep a girl if you have nothing to say ever, you are always anxious, you are too aspie to have normie conversations?
I can fake emotion, interest and normal conversations for a small period of time. My hope is that some day I will no longer have to fake.

Biggest problem is that I no longer even care about fixing inceldom cuz of my depression. I see no point in life anymore, even sex or having a gf doesn't seem fun or interesting anymore. I think i'd rather keep up a little bit of the hope that it would be interesting/fun to have sex/gf, than go for it and experience that due to my depression even this part of life isn't lifefuel. Which would bring me closer to suicide, might be good I guess.

 

[whogivesafucc]

Well, I never really even talked to a girl before. No clue how to fix that, because there's really nothing to talk to them about anyway. I can barely keep up conversations with normies, just lol at having a conversation with a fucking girl.

 

[ban_collector]

you can't truly be a mentalcel if you aren't also at least fairly ugly. 4/10 or lower. a 5/10 complete autist can just date down in looks by a few points, or date females who are just as mentally impaired.

 

[CopingGymcel]

I really wish my own brain didn't constantly tell me I'm subhuman, when everything else points to that not being the case, but my brain is completely fucked up. Was diagnosed with BDD, though it was just a meme for ugly people, but now I'm not so sure.

Even though I hate photos of myself with a passion, I will install Tinder when I've gotten down to single digit body fat. I've been approached before, so hopefully it'll happen before I have to resort to Tinder. Trying to get friends will probably help a lot, too.

 

[WarmIncelation]

1) What is your current looks level? What facial flaws do you have? What level could you reach with

4/10 because I'm extremely obese from meds and also balding. My face is fine, if it wasn't for the fat I'd be cute. I'd be a solid 6 if I was hwp and not bald.


2) After you're looksmaxxed, how do you get to know girls? Where do you meet them? Do you see your anxiety/aspergers being completely overlooked by women after you looksmax?

I would just talk to them. I'm low inh when I'm not having episodes (panic disorder and severe intermittent depression ) and am personable. Before my issues I had no trouble talking with femoids (still don't, just can't get any in the sack or to stick around )

Online or in person out and about

Fuck no! They don't give a shit about my issues because my issues are about me and not them.


3) How do you keep a girl if you have nothing to say ever, you are always anxious, you are too aspie to have normie conversations?

Quite frankly you don't. Anxiety sucks and I fucking hate it. One day something popped in my head (physically I was fine according to drs so no stroke) and I fell to the ground crying uncontrollably. I've been a nervous wreck with intermittent anxiety, panic and horrible depression ever since then. This was almost 8 years ago this happened.

I assume I'll never break out at this point. My brain just doesn't work like it used to. Too much stress or expectation triggers episodes and I'm too fat to attract anyone. I want to lose weight for health reasons but fuck all if that's easy to do on psych meds


Not the most comfortable sharing this as I hate being called a fucking fakecel just because I haven't always been an incel. But if this lets any other mental cels here know they aren't alone then I'm glad I shared.

 

[Deleted member 27768]

Why is Sparky not on your list if you took Framecel in? Do you think he mogs him?