Mentalcelism seriously could be worse than being ugly

[Cybersex is our hope]

I think male LOOKS only matter in terms of the idea about you are gonna give out to foids. Good looking masculine men aren't as terribly and strongly desiredby foids as good looking females are by men. Good looking masculine men just have a big advantage over ugly men but it's all about the idea of strenght they are giving out not the beauty per se (never ever met a NT foid with a legit foot fetish for male feet, just to mention an example).
This leads me to the conclusion that if you are decent looking BUT you are autisticit it will feel like you are ok BUT "there's something wrong with him" "He is not strong, dominant and energic enough! I need a REAL man who is passionate and give me a lot of love and makes me feel like a little girl te-heeeeee".


So i'm gonna talk about me: i don't think i'm ugly (definetly not a male model but also not that ugly), i work out, i have a lot of hobbies and interests (sports and videogames) and i'm slightly taller than 6 feet but here i am: KV at the age of 25. ZERO fucking matches on tinder, ZERO experiences with foids, ZERO attention in every single group i joined (be it university, church, friends or whatever the fuck i tried to join). It's like i'm not "vibrating" at the right frequence to get foids to appreciate me or to desire me. ALL of this because of my highly non NT behaviour (i'm currently in a support group for aspiesm) and my total inability to being joyful and derive pleasure from socializing without being quite drunk.

I'm not saying L is not important, but i'm saying what matters at the end of the day is really the final result you get from your LMS complexive situation. High mentalcelism can be as damaging as being ugly.

 

[Aziz]

I'd rather be autistic and have a top tier face rather than keeping on living with my shitty looks

 

[Nothingness]

Boleshit. Larpers try to find excuse. Fuck you.

 

[VirginAutistManlet]

It's like i'm not "vibrating" at the right frequence to get foids to appreciate me or to desire me.

Also - I have autism, and meet other autists often, the good looking tall men who have autism still get regularly laid, as do any foid with autism no matter what she looks like, its all the normie/trucel guys with autism who dont

 

[Akkadian]

If you're average then social skills and confidence is actually needed. So if you don't have that when you're like 5 or 6/10, then it's over.

 

[ihaveno1]

i don't think i'm ugly

ZERO fucking matches on tinder

loled thx

 

[Musophobia]

I think male LOOKS only matter in terms of the idea about you are gonna give out to foids. Good looking masculine men aren't as terribly and strongly desiredby foids as good looking females are by men. Good looking masculine men just have a big advantage over ugly men but it's all about the idea of strenght they are giving out not the beauty per se (never ever met a NT foid with a legit foot fetish for male feet, just to mention an example).
This leads me to the conclusion that if you are decent looking BUT you are autisticit it will feel like you are ok BUT "there's something wrong with him" "He is not strong, dominant and energic enough! I need a REAL man who is passionate and give me a lot of love and makes me feel like a little girl te-heeeeee".


So i'm gonna talk about me: i don't think i'm ugly (definetly not a male model but also not that ugly), i work out, i have a lot of hobbies and interests (sports and videogames) and i'm slightly taller than 6 feet but here i am: KV at the age of 25. ZERO fucking matches on tinder, ZERO experiences with foids, ZERO attention in every single group i joined (be it university, church, friends or whatever the fuck i tried to join). It's like i'm not "vibrating" at the right frequence to get foids to appreciate me or to desire me. ALL of this because of my highly non NT behaviour (i'm currently in a support group for aspiesm) and my total inability to being joyful and derive pleasure from socializing without being quite drunk.

I'm not saying L is not important, but i'm saying what matters at the end of the day is really the final result you get from your LMS complexive situation. High mentalcelism can be as damaging as being ugly.

I agree, judging by what you said, you wouldn't be an incel if you were NT
Mentalceldom is very real, but not for chad or chadlites, it only applies to normies
It is what sets the normies apart, non NT normies are guaranteed to be incels, NT normies might get lucky and have a gf
That being said, the most common reason of inceldom is looks, not mental state, mentalceldom only applies to a 10% ish minority imo

loled thx

5/10 isn't ugly, and wouldn't get tinder matches, he might have a point tbh

 

[Deleted member 20811]

"I'm a mentalcel and its over for me bro. If only I was an NT alphamale like 5'2" blading pajeet. He gets all the girls because of his amazing social skills! Looks race and height dont matter bro!"

 

[ionlycopenow]

No such thing as mentalcel. You are ugly, just with an ego.

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

Please ban this cuck

 

[Iwanttolive]

Im no medical professional but unless u have severe autism, which might be even a challenge to register on incels.co n make posts, it's likely due to your looks.

I used to think it's bcos I wasn't, like you mentioned, "vibrating" at the right frequency and could perhaps 'improve' on my vibes by joining more social activities until I realised it was my face.

 

[Mainländer]

It isn't. At least you'll get females desiring you if you're gl.

 

[Deleted member 20811]

Mentalceldom is only bullshit if youre above average smv (minimum 6/10 face + tall + white). If you are 5/10 face, average or below average height, or ethnic, mentalceldom isn't even your main issue anyway. It's your genetics.

 

[0x3nf4rt]

What's with all the mental gymnastics?

 

[ovrload]

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Also - I have autism, and meet other autists often, the good looking tall men who have autism still get regularly laid, as do any foid with autism no matter what she looks like, its all the normie/trucel guys with autism who dont

I think being an autist is only a negative if you’re not good looking or tall as you just rightly stated. If you’re an average looking autist forget about ever getting in a relationship or unless you want to become a betabux for a foid after she’s 30

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

No such thing as mentalcel. You are ugly, just with an ego.

Yeah man just behave toward mentalcels li normies behave towar incels. Complete retard

 

[FukFeminism]

At a certain level of attractiveness, chad will literally have to put zero effort in and the girls wouldn’t care if he was totally mute. I agree with this point with normie men and maybe chadlites

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

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Im no medical professional but unless u have severe autism, which might be even a challenge to register on incels.co n make posts, it's likely due to your looks.

I used to think it's bcos I wasn't, like you mentioned, "vibrating" at the right frequency and could perhaps 'improve' on my vibes by joining more social activities until I realised it was my face.

I'm high functioning. Foids openly told me my social retardation makes me unfuckable. Also as i said i'm not 8/10 but also not 4/10

 

[ionlycopenow]

Yeah man just behave toward mentalcels li normies behave towar incels. Complete retard

There is no such thing as a mentalcel.

Sorry to break that you are just ugly, not a "mentalcel" .. for your own sake, lose the vanity and ego, it is only deluding you.

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

At a certain level of attractiveness, chad will literally have to put zero effort in and the girls wouldn’t care if he was totally mute. I agree with this point with normie men and maybe chadlites

As i said the total amount o LMS matters

 

[Olgierd]

Fuckk off lol

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

There is no such thing as a mentalcel.

Sorry to break that you are just ugly, not a "mentalcel" .. for your own sake, lose the vanity and ego, it is only deluding you.

I'm talki about a real problem and you keep being in denyal and a retard knwoing 0 about me. I already have an ego below zero, you fucktard. I'm trying to explain like another autisticel already did, that if you are not top tier being normal, bein quite tale or not being ugly won't help you if you have asperger. This is just an undisputable fact

There is no such thing as a mentalcel.

Sorry to break that you are just ugly, not a "mentalcel" .. for your own sake, lose the vanity and ego, it is only deluding you.

I'm talki about a real problem and you keep being in denyal and a retard knwoing 0 about me. I already have an ego below zero, you fucktard. I'm trying to explain like another autisticel already did, that if you are not top tier being normal, bein quite tale or not being ugly won't help you if you have asperger. This is just an undisputable fact

 

[Opus132]

If you are Chad, you simply cannot fail attracting women, no matter what. If you are a truecel sub-human, you will always repel women, no matter what. If you are anywhere between those two extremes you MUST be NT or you might as well just be a truecel.

That's really all there is to it.

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

There is no such thing as a mentalcel.

Sorry to break that you are just ugly, not a "mentalcel" .. for your own sake, lose the vanity and ego, it is only deluding you.

I'm talking about a real problem and you keep being in denyal and a retard knwoing 0 about me. I already have an ego below zero, you fucktard. I'm trying to explain like another autisticel already did, that if you are not top tier being normal, bein quite tale or not being ugly won't help you if you have asperger. This is just an undisputable fact

There is no such thing as a mentalcel.

Sorry to break that you are just ugly, not a "mentalcel" .. for your own sake, lose the vanity and ego, it is only deluding you.

I'm talking about a real problem and you keep being in denyal and a retard knwoing 0 about me. I already have an ego below zero, you fucktard. I'm trying to explain like another autisticel already did, that if you are not top tier being normal, bein quite tale or not being ugly won't help you if you have asperger. This is just an undisputable fact

 

[Iwanttolive]

I'm high functioning. Foids openly told me my social retardation makes me unfuckable. Also as i said i'm not 8/10 but also not 4/10

Foids will find any reason except outright calling someone ugly/unattractive.
For example, notice why ugly nerds n geeks are always implied as 'creepy'

Anw I could meet you halfway and agree that for a certain looks level which might allowed someone NT to get a foid but immediately disqualified if he was not.

 

[SuperPerfectCel]

Impossible. At least people don't automatically treat you like the scum of the earth if you're only a mentalcel. You'll only be shit on after prolonged social interaction. Otherwise you'll be ignored.

Being ugly is being a third-class citizen. Yes some hyper NT/rich/famous ugly dude may still get laid, while a mentalcel does not, but getting to that point is painful as fuck.

Exception is that ugly foids do in fact have it better than mentalcel men.

 

[Angry_runt]

Mentalcelism is real. A foid can like you enough to give you a shot but not sufficiently to tolerate any mental issues. That's because they don't have to compromise. What, this cute guy is mildly autistic and embarrassing or simply too high inhib to fuck her? No problem, she can choose from among the other 60 NT cute guys she has access to.

In 10 years being 6' will be enough to consign you to inceldom. There is no hope.

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

If you are Chad, you simply cannot fail attracting women, no matter what. If you are a truecel sub-human, you will always repel women, no matter what. If you are anywhere between those two extremes you MUST be NT or you might as well just be a truecel.

That's really all there is to it.

Man, was it not enough clear when i said that if you are not a Chad but also not ugly you still can live and incel life solely because of autism?

You'll only be shit on after prolonged social interaction. Otherwise you'll be ignored.

They either ignore me or mock me after a while

Mentalcelism is real. A foid can like you enough to give you a shot but not sufficiently to tolerate any mental issues. That's because they don't have to compromise.

Oh my god some fucking sanity. Exactly. You are borderline to be somehow seen as attractive but as soon as they see your autism they just think you are not attractive enough to compensate your non NTness

What, this cute guy is mildly autistic and embarrassing or simply too high inhib to fuck her? No problem, she can choose from among the other 60 NT cute guys she has access to.

Excellently put

 

[Opus132]

Impossible. At least people don't automatically treat you like the scum of the earth if you're only a mentalcel.

Actually, they do. If women don't like your autism what makes you think other people will like it as well?

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

Impossible. At least people don't automatically treat you like the scum of the earth if you're only a mentalcel. You'll only be shit on after prolonged social interaction. Otherwise you'll be ignored.

Being ugly is being a third-class citizen. Yes some hyper NT/rich/famous ugly dude may still get laid, while a mentalcel does not, but getting to that point is painful as fuck.

Exception is that ugly foids do in fact have it better than mentalcel men.

You still can normiemaxx or thugmaxx as an ugly guy. Nearly impossible when autistic. Aspergers can only go ER in order to be feared or respected and to reciprocate to society the pain society psychologically and socially forced upon them

What's with all the mental gymnastics?

Low effort low iq. GTFO

Actually, they do. If women don't like your autism what makes you think other people will like it as well?

When many foids don't want you other men will start marginalizing you as well

Please ban this cuck

Retard low iq and nigga

Mentalceldom is only bullshit if youre above average smv (minimum 6/10 face + tall + white). If you are 5/10 face, average or below average height, or ethnic, mentalceldom isn't even your main issue anyway. It's your genetics.

I'm white and slightly above 6 feet. Not ugly face but also not model tier. Here i am as a mentalcel 25 yo kv

5/10 isn't ugly, and wouldn't get tinder matches, he might have a point tbh

I do have a point lol

Fuckk off lol

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Also - I have autism, and meet other autists often, the good looking tall men who have autism still get regularly laid, as do any foid with autism no matter what she looks like, its all the normie/trucel guys with autism who dont

As i said the problem is with normal/pretty guys who have autism, not top tier chad. Being autistic is sometimes worse than being ugly

I'd rather be autistic and have a top tier face rather than keeping on living with my shitty looks

Trust me you don't

Boleshit. Larpers try to find excuse. Fuck you.

Incel not understanding the plight of another incel. Gigafuck you

 

[ionlycopenow]

Op is a vain arrogant fuck who can't comprehend the fact he is just ugly like the rest of us.

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

Op is a vain arrogant fuck who can't comprehend the fact he is just ugly like the rest of us.

You are a low iq arrogant idiotic subhuman who can't even understand what i said.
I have an ego below zero and i'm not a chad (already said so) but i also said there's a line where you can be somehow attractive to a foid but still be rejected when she notices your autism.Several other guys up there confirmed this version and understood it. You are low iq and simply can't understand

 

[ionlycopenow]

You are a low iq arrogant idiotic subhuman who can't even understand what i said.
I have an ego below zero and i'm not a chad (already said so) but i also said there's a line where you can be somehow attractive to a foid but still be rejected when she notices your autism.Several other guys up there confirmed this version and understood it. You are low iq and simply can't understand

Because "mentalceldom" is incredibly vain, arrogant delusional way that stupid fucks cope with being ugly .

Oh, I'm actually not ugly, it's just nobody wants to date me or fuck me because I'm just too weird teehee.

 

[Irredeemable]

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Also - I have autism, and meet other autists often, the good looking tall men who have autism still get regularly laid, as do any foid with autism no matter what she looks like, its all the normie/trucel guys with autism who dont

This, i know a guy diagnosed with asberger, who is tall and decent looking. After high school he started going to parties, getting sex and dates and son on. MeanwhileI have no diagnosis, but I am a short ethnic uggo incel. "Mentalcel" is the biggest cope i've heard and honestly it makes me angry when it is compared to being butt ugly.

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

Because "mentalceldom" is incredibly vain, arrogant delusional way that stupid fucks cope with being ugly .

Oh, I'm actually not ugly, it's just nobody wants to date me or fuck me because I'm just too weird teehee.

I actually said that i'm not good looking enough to COMPENSATE the fucking LMS complexive result. Many users up there said exactly the same. Can you even read?

This, i know a guy diagnosed with asberger, who is tall and decent looking. After high school he started going to parties, getting sex and dates and son on. MeanwhileI have no diagnosis, but I am a short ethnic uggo incel. "Mentalcel" is the biggest cope i've heard and honestly it makes me angry when it is compared to being butt ugly.

I'm white, over 6 feet and 0 sex. Explain that

 

[Urekkim]

If ur chad and claim to be Mentalcel, just fuck off lol

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

If ur chad and claim to be Mentalcel, just fuck off lol

Ok many guys are really low iq here. I OPENLY SAID I'M NOT A FUCKING CHAD BUT NOT A 4/10 EITHER IS IT SO DIFFICULT TO FUCKING READ A MESSAGE?

 

[Urekkim]

Ok many guys are really low iq here. I OPENLY SAID I'M NOT A FUCKING CHAD BUT NOT A 4/10 EITHER IS IT SO DIFFICULT TO FUCKING READ A MESSAGE?

not saying you as in YOU "Cybersex is our hope"

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

not saying you as in YOU "Cybersex is our hope"

it was either not needed or wrong since i was openly talking about me and asking for some clarification

 

[Deleted member 6214]

You make some good points, high IQ

 

[LostInTheStatic]

I'd rather be autistic and have a top tier face rather than keeping on living with my shitty looks

tfw autistic (aspergers) and short

 

[kvn]

If you're average then social skills and confidence is actually needed. So if you don't have that when you're like 5 or 6/10, then it's over.

Mentalceldom is very real, but not for chad or chadlites, it only applies to normies
It is what sets the normies apart, non NT normies are guaranteed to be incels, NT normies might get lucky and have a gf

. If you are anywhere between those two extremes you MUST be NT or you might as well just be a truecel.

Good luck explaining to fucktardcels on this forum that vast majority of men arent either chads or on the other hand an abomination, and for this vast majority of men being NT is what makes or breaks them.

But muh chad doesnt need to be nt hurr durr!!!!

Yeah but normal looking guys do have to be you retards!!!!!!

 

[metabuxx]

I would gladly be a Chad with autism and every other fucking mental disease. Even autistic Chads have tons of sex. Every man less attractive than an 8 is a incel and it doesn't matter if he has mental problems or not. ITS ALL ABOUT LOOKING GOOD.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

This is how I feel about my situation. I had terrible acne in high school but cleared it up when I got to college, but was a social retard so I couldn't talk to girls at all.

 

[Musophobia]

Good luck explaining to fucktardcels on this forum that vast majority of men arent either chads or on the other hand an abomination, and for this vast majority of men being NT is what makes or breaks them.

But muh chad doesnt need to be nt hurr durr!!!!

Yeah but normal looking guys do have to be you retards!!!!!!

Tbh majority of the forum believes that it is over for average looking dudes aswell, 5's and 6's, I believe that's why this issue is ignored often

 

[TheReaper]

drink or take mdma in order to be NT and then try to go for a one night stand(assuming you're actually not ugly as you said)...
that's probably the best you can get

 

[Deleted member 18214]

I'd rather be autistic and have a top tier face rather than keeping on living with my shitty looks

 

[kvn]

Tbh majority of the forum believes that it is over for average looking dudes aswell, 5's and 6's, I believe that's why this issue is ignored often

Yeah true. But when you look at IRL 80% of guys arent incels so that way of thinking is unbased in reality

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Tbh majority of the forum believes that it is over for average looking dudes aswell, 5's and 6's, I believe that's why this issue is ignored often

This topic isn't allowed to be talked about in full detail on the forum because of the no brag rule. If a guy gets an IOI from a foid but doesn't capitalize he can't tell people here "she was interested in me", or else he might get banned.

 

[Musophobia]

Yeah true. But when you look at IRL 80% of guys arent incels so that way of thinking is unbased in reality

depends on where you live, I guess
where I live 5/10 normies can still get dates, I feel like it is a lot harder in US, I've seen some cels saying that majority of men are incels where they live