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Me and my brother Chad (surgerypill inside)

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As if it was not enough to draw the short straw at the genetic lottery... My younger brother is at least a 7,5/10 (he has been fucking foids since 13), so I had the pleasure to watch from closest distance how my life could have been if nature hadn't fucked me up. I was looking OK as a child, but things got pretty bad during puberty (jaw/lower face didn't grow, no undereye support, patchy beard). I have normal height, but that doesn't help much if your hips are wider than your shoulders (I look kinda slaggy even in my tightest shirts).

To make it short: At least I fit perfectly into the archetype of a loser/nerd back then (needless to mention that I sucked very, very bad at all kind of sports). However, I didn't have any psychological problems and managed to make some friends during my school years (but I always felt like a ghost around foids: mostly invisible and sometimes you could scare them to death by just the slightest touch).

So while I spent afternoons sitting in my room playing vidya, there were regularly some random foids showing up at our house who wanted to see my brother (sometimes you could clearly see the disgust in their faces when it was me who opened the door). This went on for some years before I finally decided to do something.

By that time I managed to make money by selling digital assets (this was before crypto became a thing). In the best years I made around 50,000 USD per month. So I went to see a maxillofacial surgeon abroad who was regarded as the best in his field. He showed me a lot of before/after pics and being quite impressed I quickly decided to go ahead. I didn't tell my family to avoid pointless discussions and just said I was taking some weeks off.

The surgery was pretty extensive, took about 8 hours (counter-clockwise rotation of jaws, cheek implants, jawline implants, chin correction). Afterwards I couldn't chew for weeks (had to stick to liquid stuff). No pain, but a lot of numbness in nearly all parts of my face which slowly subsided. Though I have some areas left that never regained normal feeling (parts of my palate and my chin). I can ignore it most of the time, but it still reminds me on a daily basis that I basically flushed down 100,000 USD down the toilet.

So here comes the surgerypill: When I came back home my mom just commented that I look bad (lol but well, I was still swollen by then) and asked me if something happend to me. I just told her I got ill and went to a hospital without going into details. In the months following NO ONE commented on my looks and from all I could tell they might not even have noticed that I had something done.

While I could see the difference on pics showing my profile, I look more or less the same in the front view (except that the checkbones are a bit more prominent). Also, facial expression etc. is just the same as before. And foids still ignored/avoided me just like they did before.

So my advice to you if you ever plan to ascend via surgery. Be careful and do your own research first. Surgeons will promise you everything if you have the money. Being a richcel they basically see a bag of money walking right through the door.

Also keep in mind that before/after shots are highly selected from the best shots of their very best results, these are often angle-pics under certain lightning which accentuates the changes. Watch videos of patients or even better, see them in person. And if you have a Class I bite, for heaven's sake do not go for jaw surgery if you can get the same or even better results with fillers / implants. Numbness is vastly underreported (they just tell you it will eventually go away on its own) but I don't know anybody who hasn't been left with some problems (and it can be way worse as you could develop TMD or even chronic pain). Implants are also not without risks. When I had done a X-Ray a few years later (at another doc's office) it showed some bone resorption which makes a revision procedure risky or even impossible (because of nerve exposure).

TL;DR: Moneymaxxing, got 100000$ surgery from world-renowned doc and here I am.
 
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@RREEEEEEEEE
 
High IQ but too late for you to not get swindled.

There are no good before/after real world shots, just promotional material that cosmetic surgeons use to rope in suckers.

If plastic surgery could fix ugliness, there wouldn't be any ugly dentists or programmers or pretty much anyone who makes a decent living.
 
High IQ but too late for you to not get swindled.

There are no good before/after real world shots, just promotional material that cosmetic surgeons use to rope in suckers.

If plastic surgery could fix ugliness, there wouldn't be any ugly dentists or programmers or pretty much anyone who makes a decent living.

korean surgery is pretty good but you end up looking like a template
 
In the months following NO ONE commented on my looks

Suifuel for surgerycels. Tbh I will get surgery too but this is what I fear - that my looks will either barely improve or stay the same....
 
Plastic surgery isn't something I would recommend to people unless they have a really bad Semitic nose, in which case a rhinoplasty would surely boost their looks. You will find a lot of people in the incelosphere who will tell you that you need surgery or whatever even if the said surgery wouldn't do much, like removing a small bump on the nose. Forums like lookism were started by plastic surgeons who preyed on people's insecurities hoping to make a couple of quick, huge bucks and since then they've let autistic people take over this position.
 
korean surgery is pretty good but you end up looking like a template
Only good for East Asians. DO NOT go to a Korean surgeon if you are not Asian. I remember seeing a YouTube video of a curry going to South Korea for cosmetic surgery.... Guess what? He ended up looking worse afterwards.
 
cus no one operates on indians

Cope!

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It is quite possible to make a below average Looking guy good Looking

BUT


Most surgeons wont do that since they are bluepilled asfuck

They will choose the most easiest and most expensive procedure, unlike real effective procedures like a lefort 3 osteotomy


You would Need lateral and orbital rim implants along with a canthopexy and orbital decompression surgery, plus lefort 3 and ZSO along with a bsso, chinwing and lower distraction osteogenesis with L cut osteotomy, maxillary impaction surgery, genioplasty

And a surgery to reduce your midface length along with a lip lift and mouth widening surgery and upper and lower palate Expansion
 
ngl went from 1/10 to 3/10 by white standarsd and mabe average by indian standards

He didn't need plastic surgery. He got divorce-raped and wanted to attract women so he got a rhinoplasty.

The picture of the left is the after pic, the picture on the right is the before.

He got a botched rhinoplasty. He was at least 4.5, even in the comments people say that he was handsome before.

Brutal.
 
So was it your personality afterall? Good story. What did u sell. Pm me if u wish
 
He didn't need plastic surgery. He got divorce-raped and wanted to attract women so he got a rhinoplasty.

The picture of the left is the after pic, the picture on the right is the before.

He got a botched rhinoplasty. He was at least 4.5, even in the comments people say that he was handsome before.

Brutal.

this is actually my lower third spot on lol

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It works if you have real flaws.
Always chuckle when the aspies think they could have benefit when they're looking perfectly fine.
 
It works if you have real flaws.

Surgery can work if you have a very specific flaw (hooked nose, jaw malposition etc.). But for most incels I don't think this is the case (even if they have one it's often not their only problem). There's simply no craniofacial surgery which can remodel your facial structure to an extent that you walk out of the surgery room as Chad (as some obviously believe).
 
Can you pm before and afters? You can blur your eyes out if you want. I´ve already had ZSO myself and I´m getting double jaw surgery in 2 months.
 
I agree, if you're ugly then surgery isn't going to fix your problems. But hard to know the extent of op's finding without some form of before and after pics for comparison. $100k is a lot, you'd think there was some improvement (even if it didn't satisfy the ultimate goal).

Did you ever try tinder experiment with before and after pictures? That can always be telling.
 
The problem is, if you are an incel you need to educate and evaluated yourself, because you can't be easily fixed!

Just to give you guys a little example, if you have a very recessed chin, you probably need a genioplasty and on top of that a chin implant for a radical change, but your jawline will still suffer and most doctors will only offer one or another technique. They will sell whatever they feel comfortable to perform so they can take your money and get away from any legal problems, but most of the times this is not enough for us, too little too late, you have to address that you want a radical change on every angle but focus on your biggest problem first, and ask them about what are the options to achieve that, some areas you need bone osteotomy and implants. Normies are the vast majority of their costumers and normies don't feel comfortable with radical changes and so much downtime, they just want to harmonize some aspects of their faces and look the same, but a better version of themselves, we don't want that, we want Chad's lower-third!

Facial bone structure is something still very difficult to fix in just one step and technique, because it needs multiple procedures and a combo of techniques to assure good results. Rhinoplasty is something very well developed and can be done easily by good doctors with just one surgery, but foids are the ones who benefit the most, most incels can benefit from rhyno but you need to fix your facial structure first and most doctors will not make any extra effort to achieve optimal results in just one surgery! In other words, YOU WILL NOT ASCEND WITH JUST ONE SURGERY!

You have to educate yourself, see what you need the most, ask for that radical change and build up from that! ...it's a journey not a sprint.
 
Can you pm before and afters? You can blur your eyes out if you want. I´ve already had ZSO myself and I´m getting double jaw surgery in 2 months.

I have to think about it (not eager to be doxxed or end up as a meme). Did you notice any effect from the ZSO?

If I decide to have another surgery, I think it will be almond eye/eyebrow surgery and fillers for my jawline. At least I look best on pictures where I squint and raise my eyebrows a bit and where lightning is such that my lower face looks broader than it is (these were also the pics I used to get the dates on the sugardaddy site).
 
I have to think about it (not eager to be doxxed or end up as a meme). Did you notice any effect from the ZSO?

If I decide to have another surgery, I think it will be almond eye/eyebrow surgery and fillers for my jawline. At least I look best on pictures where I squint and raise my eyebrows a bit and where lightning is such that my lower face looks broader than it is (these were also the pics I used to get the dates on the sugardaddy site).
I´d never doxx anyone. Yes, I had a huge change from ZSO. I had super flat cheeks before and now I have Jon Kortajarena like cheekbones. I had 9mm advancement.
 
Plastic surgery isn't something I would recommend to people unless they have a really bad Semitic nose, in which case a rhinoplasty would surely boost their looks. You will find a lot of people in the incelosphere who will tell you that you need surgery or whatever even if the said surgery wouldn't do much, like removing a small bump on the nose. Forums like lookism were started by plastic surgeons who preyed on people's insecurities hoping to make a couple of quick, huge bucks and since then they've let autistic people take over this position.
You know many things about the truth of surgeries?
 
You know many things about the truth of surgeries?
Of course. I know how they work. They install shills on various forums in the hopes of boosting the amount of patients they get.
 

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