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Serious Many of you need to stop trying to reduce inceldom to a single factor

The Judge

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Something I have noticed about the incel community since it's very conception is the everlasting debate about just what the so-called "definitive" cause of inceldom is. However, my belief is that this all stems from the human desire to simplify one's problems to something digestable by stripping it of any kind of nuance.

In my opinion, inceldom is instead caused by multiple variables, variables which all women will compare and contrast when screening for a potential mate.

For example, a short, Indian man who is mildly famous, neurotypical and looks like this has a very low chance of ending up an incel.

Indian


Meanwhile, a tall, white man who is highly autistic and looks like this has a very high chance of ending up an incel.

Ugly


This is why incels are so diverse in nature in spite of being in the exact same position as one-other. Because in reality, women have a checklist of desirable traits, those being looks, money, status, neurotypicality, height, and race. Whenever they look upon a man, they ponder things such as "Is him being 6'8 enough to compensate for his weak jawline?" or "Is him being a multi-millionaire enough to compensate for him being 5'1?" Think of it as an old-school RPG, where different stat percentages contribute to the overall character build.

Of course, all of these variables have a "bare minimum" threshold that, if crossed, cancels out the rest. For example, being tall, white, neurotypical and mildly famous will not work if the man in question has ridiculously subhuman facial features. Just how being "normie "level attractive will not work if the man in question is Chris-Chan levels of autistic.

What I am ultimately trying to say here is that we should stop parroting "JUST BE X!!" and instead acknowledge all of the different factors that can make someone an incel. To me, whether or not someone is a "truecel" compared to a "fakecel" really comes down to "Have they ever received romantic/sexual attention from women?" nothing more.
 
Something I have noticed about the incel community since it's very conception is the everlasting debate about just what the so-called "definitive" cause of inceldom is. However, my belief is that this all stems from the human desire to simplify one's problems to something digestable by stripping it of any kind of nuance.

In my opinion, inceldom is instead caused by multiple variables, variables which all women will compare and contrast when screening for a potential mate.

For example, a short, Indian man who is mildly famous, neurotypical and looks like this has a very low chance of ending up an incel.

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Meanwhile, a tall, white man who is highly autistic and looks like this has a very high chance of ending up an incel.

View attachment 1454790

This is why incels are so diverse in nature in spite of being in the exact same position as one-other. Because in reality, women have a checklist of desirable traits, those being looks, money, status, neurotypicality, height, and race. Whenever they look upon a man, they ponder things such as "Is him being 6'8 enough to compensate for his weak jawline?" or "Is him being a multi-millionaire enough to compensate for him being 5'1?" Think of it as an old-school RPG, where different stat percentages contribute to the overall character build.

Of course, all of these variables have a "bare minimum" threshold that, if crossed, cancels out the rest. For example, being tall, white, neurotypical and mildly famous will not work if the man in question has ridiculously subhuman facial features. Just how being "normie "level attractive will not work if the man in question is Chris-Chan levels of autistic.

What I am ultimately trying to say here is that we should stop parroting "JUST BE X!!" and instead acknowledge all of the different factors that can make someone an incel. To me, whether or not someone is a "truecel" compared to a "fakecel" really comes down to "Have they ever received romantic/sexual attention from women?" nothing more.
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It's actually very simple.

It's your face/height/build combination that determines a dude's dating success.

We can argue all day which of these three is most important. But it's really only these three factors that matter.
 
Something I have noticed about the incel community since it's very conception is the everlasting debate about just what the so-called "definitive" cause of inceldom is. However, my belief is that this all stems from the human desire to simplify one's problems to something digestable by stripping it of any kind of nuance.

In my opinion, inceldom is instead caused by multiple variables, variables which all women will compare and contrast when screening for a potential mate.

For example, a short, Indian man who is mildly famous, neurotypical and looks like this has a very low chance of ending up an incel.

View attachment 1454789

Meanwhile, a tall, white man who is highly autistic and looks like this has a very high chance of ending up an incel.

View attachment 1454790

This is why incels are so diverse in nature in spite of being in the exact same position as one-other. Because in reality, women have a checklist of desirable traits, those being looks, money, status, neurotypicality, height, and race. Whenever they look upon a man, they ponder things such as "Is him being 6'8 enough to compensate for his weak jawline?" or "Is him being a multi-millionaire enough to compensate for him being 5'1?" Think of it as an old-school RPG, where different stat percentages contribute to the overall character build.

Of course, all of these variables have a "bare minimum" threshold that, if crossed, cancels out the rest. For example, being tall, white, neurotypical and mildly famous will not work if the man in question has ridiculously subhuman facial features. Just how being "normie "level attractive will not work if the man in question is Chris-Chan levels of autistic.

What I am ultimately trying to say here is that we should stop parroting "JUST BE X!!" and instead acknowledge all of the different factors that can make someone an incel. To me, whether or not someone is a "truecel" compared to a "fakecel" really comes down to "Have they ever received romantic/sexual attention from women?" nothing more.
Very accurate thread
 
He is quite tall. Should have picked a more realistic example. Saying that he has a "very low chance" of ending up as an incel is a fucking understatement.
 
It is a combination of factors. I'm short, ugly, poor, autistic, etc. If i was just one of these things i probably wouldn't be here. Unfortunately I have every negative trait imaginable. Most of us here have a lot wrong with us. There's definitely a reason incels are disproportionately ND/ethnic as well as ugly.
 
To me, whether or not someone is a "truecel" compared to a "fakecel" really comes down to "Have they ever received romantic/sexual attention from women?" nothing more.
Disagree completely with this. I can detect really easily failed normies/normies.
You just have to sum up every characteristic they have: a 5'9 LTN NT might not be the big slayer and struggle a lot with women, but still would not call him an incel.
It's not that hard to calculate in your head their SMV.
I'd say 4.5 SMV is when you can safely call someone a normoid.

The shit of "brooo stats don't matter what matters is if you had romantic relationship" rethoric is used often to disguise fakecels/failed normies into this incel spaces.

I don't give a shit you are 5'8 mtn, or 5'10 mtn nt and you don't have romantic relationship. You are a normie and get the fuck out of my sight...

TLDR
The shit of "khhv = incel" is bullcrap, what matters is your SMV. You can be khhv but not incel. KHHV therefore incel rethoric is used to disguise fakecels/failed normies in incel spaces.


 
True. Everything matters is law
 
Looks is the single factor when you're ugly and have no opportunities.
 
Smartest post I've seen here in a while. It's far too often someone will be called a fakecel for having one desirable trait (especially being tall), especially if they have other features that will put them in the subhuman category in the eyes of foids, such as being facially unattractive or neurodivergent.
 
In my opinion, inceldom is instead caused by multiple variables, variables which all women will compare and contrast when screening for a potential mate.
Yes, the amount of JBx posts but some people have the skin colour and are Chad but some are the truestcel of them all
 
I have every single negative variable.
 
It's actually very simple.

It's your face/height/build combination that determines a dude's dating success.

We can argue all day which of these three is most important. But it's really only these three factors that matter.
This, and being average in all areas, is bad, but not nearly as bad as being bad in one area. Like if I was 6'2 but had a micropenis, a 5'9 man with a slightly above average size has a higher SMV.
 
The truth is it all comes down to mostly to your face, if your face is ugly it doesn't matter how tall you, how NT you are or even how big your penis is, If your face is ugly you will be an incel. Those other factors can make someone who has a ok looking face an incel but someone who has chad face will always have girls chasing after him.
 
It's actually very simple.

It's your face/height/build combination that determines a dude's dating success.

We can argue all day which of these three is most important. But it's really only these three factors that matter.
NT is underrated
The truth is it all comes down to mostly to your face, if your face is ugly it doesn't matter how tall you, how NT you are or even how big your penis is, If your face is ugly you will be an incel. Those other factors can make someone who has a ok looking face an incel but someone who has chad face will always have girls chasing after him.
being NT and being fun to be around probably helps a lot ngl if you are in the LTN-HTN range. however the ultimate blackpill is that even personality is dictated by genetics, you cant just magically go from being introverted to extraverted through hard work, it doesnt work like that.
 
NT is underrated

being NT and being fun to be around probably helps a lot ngl if you are in the LTN-HTN range. however the ultimate blackpill is that even personality is dictated by genetics, you cant just magically go from being introverted to extraverted through hard work, it doesnt work like that.
Social skills are overrated.

They are only a factor if a guy shies away from attention.
 

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