Makes me sick our ancestors didn't do eugenics

[WizardofSoda]

Women with good genetics and good family lines of genes should have been forced to become breeders having like 8 children. Women with health problems and/or bad family lines genetically should have had their tubes tied.

For marriage the tubes tied women and lesser quality men can be married and not have the burden of children. But otherwise they can live their lives however they want to.

Unhealthy babies should have been eliminated. For men, only healthy men with perfect health should have been allowed to breed.

I am not so shallow to worry about height or eye color or something like that. Just healthy men who we do testing to find which ones fertile women find the most sexually attractive. Ya in time I can think about things like creativity, aesthetics, intellectual ability, etc.

Even in 1 single generation it would be a quantum leap forward in the genetic quality. Every kid in school would have a high quality genetically mother and a healthy father who women found more sexually attractive than other men. And freak bad genetics babies we would have eliminated.

There would still be quite a bit of variation in genetic quality in generation 1.. but in just a few generations we would be approaching a maximum like in a logarithmic curve. After that it would be slower advance.

As we got onto the flat part of the logarithmic curve, our draconian breeding policies could also be eased up. Like if 95% of women had perfect health and good family lines then our program would not impact most women, and each healthy woman would be more free to decide how many children to have.

The same with men, once we had 95% of men with superb Chad genetics, beyond even the best Chads today..then we would be returning mainly to society as it is now.

 

[Meus]

Cuck

 

[Deleted member 29033]

Some of them did: plus humans naturally kill ugly males and send them off to die in wars

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Some ancestors did.
Spartans killed ugly babies, nords invaded villages and stole all the good looking women, while killing everyone else.
Muslims took all the attractive curry women and left the buttfuck ugly ones, hence why Muslim curries are better looking than hindu curries.
@RREEEEEEEEE agree or disagree?

 

[Deleted member 29033]

The spartans practiced a form of eugenics

This tbh same with a lot of early tribal societies

There is an excess of males at birth that societies had to deal with and the best way is to send them war, kill them off, or enslave them

 

[Studiocel]

Womens hypergamy is similar to eugenics but all the subhuman female dna is also carried on and incels are born just to be filtered out

 

[Deleted member 27204]

Womens hypergamy is similar to eugenics but all the subhuman female dna is also carried on and incels are born just to be filtered out

It's a half assed attempt at eugenics meant to keep women happy tbh
If it was real eugenics then unattractive females would also be excluded.

 

[WizardofSoda]

Some ancestors did.
Spartans killed ugly babies, nords invaded villages and stole all the good looking women, while killing everyone else.
Muslims took all the attractive curry women and left the buttfuck ugly ones, hence why Muslim curries are better looking than hindu curries.
@RREEEEEEEEE agree or disagree?

Ya credit where credit is due. Look at the paradise of beauty and intelligence that Scandinavia is today.

The Greeks were really doing a good job thousands of years ago with the worlds leading scientists and top physical genetics. In some areas the Greek scientists were beyond where we are now, we only figure out what they were saying when we figure it out ourselves.

Imagine where the Greeks would be now if they kept it up. Instead they abandoned it and now Greece doesn't seem to have anyone on that level of intelligence.

The Muslim curry women are really attractive in a sexy way.

It's a half assed attempt at eugenics meant to keep women happy tbh
If it was real eugenics then unattractive females would also be excluded.

Ya the real bulk of the plan is stopping women with bad genetics/bad family lines from breeding. Women already practice eugenics and we see it doesn't work that well by itself as all the bad genetics keeps spreading as in each generation all the women breed.

 

[Emba]

The world lost ww2

 

[WizardofSoda]

The world lost ww2

Ya we would have had social credit for 80 years now.. instead we got it in America only from 1939-1954. Essentially all of the standard of living increase in the last century in America was during that period. Compare 1938 to 1955 in average standard of living.

We would be 3-4 generations into eugenics now, so already almost all the bad genetics would be wiped out. We'd be moving into breeding the most creative and high intellect people and focusing more on aesthetics too, instead of just on wiping out bad genetics.

And we would be easing up on the breeding control as the population mainly all had excellent genetics.

Can only imagine where our science would be.

 

[Emba]

Ya we would have had social credit for 80 years now.. instead we got it in America only from 1939-1954. Essentially all of the standard of living increase in the last century in America was during that period. Compare 1938 to 1955 in average standard of living.

We would be 3-4 generations into eugenics now, so already almost all the bad genetics would be wiped out. We'd be moving into breeding the most creative and high intellect people and focusing more on aesthetics too, instead of just on wiping out bad genetics.

And we would be easing up on the breeding control as the population mainly all had excellent genetics.

Can only imagine where our science would be.

Indeed

Instead we have this jewish hellscape

 

[WizardofSoda]

Indeed

Instead we have this jewish hellscape

On the bright side China seems to have been more or less following the Nazi playbook since the 1980's. And since then China's economy has grown by 45 times.

They are taking over control in most of the world from the rentiers/interest collectors. And starting to take more control here too.

This system of social credit the wealth it generates is so endless that it could only be stopped in Germany.. because it was early on, it only had less than 10 years to build before the war started. And by all the nations of the world coming against Germany they were outnumbered like 10 to 1.

Even then our governments were forced to put in social credit in order to compete with Germany. Just after the war we abandoned it.

 

[Meus]

I don't know what you are on about, women are more eugenicist than ever. Men who aren't 6.1" Aryan gods with with chiseled jaws don't even exist for them.

So shouldn't you be happy?

 

[Jungle]

Women with good genetics and good family lines of genes should have been forced to become breeders having like 8 children. Women with health problems and/or bad family lines genetically should have had their tubes tied.

For marriage the tubes tied women and lesser quality men can be married and not have the burden of children. But otherwise they can live their lives however they want to.

Unhealthy babies should have been eliminated. For men, only healthy men with perfect health should have been allowed to breed.

I am not so shallow to worry about height or eye color or something like that. Just healthy men who we do testing to find which ones fertile women find the most sexually attractive. Ya in time I can think about things like creativity, aesthetics, intellectual ability, etc.

Even in 1 single generation it would be a quantum leap forward in the genetic quality. Every kid in school would have a high quality genetically mother and a healthy father who women found more sexually attractive than other men. And freak bad genetics babies we would have eliminated.

There would still be quite a bit of variation in genetic quality in generation 1.. but in just a few generations we would be approaching a maximum like in a logarithmic curve. After that it would be slower advance.

As we got onto the flat part of the logarithmic curve, our draconian breeding policies could also be eased up. Like if 95% of women had perfect health and good family lines then our program would not impact most women, and each healthy woman would be more free to decide how many children to have.

The same with men, once we had 95% of men with superb Chad genetics, beyond even the best Chads today..then we would be returning mainly to society as it is now.

 

[WizardofSoda]

I don't know what you are on about, women are more eugenicist than ever. Men who aren't 6.1" Aryan gods with with chiseled jaws don't even exist for them.

So shouldn't you be happy?

Yes but sadly that doesn't work that well in eugenics as seen from the last few thousand years where some places like Greece actually went way downhill despite women being hardcore eugenicists.

The problem was women are carriers of bad genetics and most all women can breed each generation. So instead of going away the bad genetics actually spread.

When women with bad genetics breed its like putting sewage into a glass of white wine. It spreads throughout it, and probably you wouldn't want to drink that wine.

Later on in our program after we get rid of the bad genetics, we also have to refine the choices. Because women will choose violent low IQ thugs.

Ancient Greece for example its scientists were waaay beyond any scientists in Greece today, which is sad. You know women in ancient Greece were not going for our heroes like Pythagoras or Aristotle or Hippocrates.. they wanted some bad men just out of jail.

 

[Meus]

Yes but sadly that doesn't work that well in eugenics as seen from the last few thousand years where some places like Greece actually went way downhill despite women being hardcore eugenicists.

The problem was women are carriers of bad genetics and most all women can breed each generation. So instead of going away the bad genetics actually spread.

When women with bad genetics breed its like putting sewage into a glass of white wine. It spreads throughout it, and probably you wouldn't want to drink that wine.

Later on in our program after we get rid of the bad genetics, we also have to refine the choices. Because women will choose violent low IQ thugs.

Ancient Greece for example its scientists were waaay beyond any scientists in Greece today, which is sad. You know women in ancient Greece were not going for our heroes like Pythagoras or Aristotle or Hippocrates.. they wanted some bad men just out of jail.

You may be on to something that eugenicism only filters men, but not girls. So 50% of all offspring still carries subhuman DNA and only men suffer because of this fact, since girls procreate anyway and continue the circle.

The most important question is, would your system make anime real?

 

[WizardofSoda]

Right now we have a bunch of white wine, but also it is all mixed up with raw sewage and scum. And women intentionally add crap into it.

When we left nature, we left behind what was refining us. And every woman even complete shit genetics breeds, polluting the gene pool. So instead of going away, bad genes keep spreading.

You see in nature not only does nature eliminate the shit genetics males, it does it to the females too. Like imagine a deer with bad eyesight. Or arthritis at a young age. Or obesity and diabetes young. Even if it is a female deer it is going to get taken out.

You may be on to something that eugenicism only filters men, but not girls. So 50% of all offspring still carries subhuman DNA and only men suffer because of this fact, since girls procreate anyway and continue the circle.

The most important question is, would your system make anime real?

Ya that is it..

What my system would do is be this filter. So right now we have this pool of white wine, that is also half filled with sewage that is almost completely mixed in.

I know the filter can't get out all of the sewage in 1 generation, especially to maintain the population. But even if say only the top half of females could breed, and only the top 20% of males(which we already have that now anyway).. and each of those females had 4 children, while the bottom half none.. we would maintain our population.

By getting rid of the bottom half of women with bad genetics/bad family lines of genetics..it would be a tremendous leap right there.

So in generation 1 there would still be a fair amount of sewage that made it through. Say the pool was now 25% sewage instead of 50%. And the wine would have risen from 50% to 75%.

Generation 2 would be much more powerful, because now the cutoff to be in the top half for women would be very much higher. In generation 2 we might get down to 5% of the pool as sewage.

In generations 3 and 4 and 5 and 6 it would get exponentially higher to be pure enough wine to make it in the top half for women. So we quickly would be down to something like 0.1% sewage, 99.9% wine.

After generation say 7 we could probably back way off, like almost all women would be free of bad genetics, and even going back a few generations.

At that point move the program from eliminating genetic shit to improving the genetics of aesthetics, creativity, intellect, etc.


It would be moving into a utopia. As our 'average' person would be this breathtaking Chad or Stacey. You see utopias suck if in the utopia you are this sickly, goblinoid creature, and a few people are blessed with mainly pure wine as genetics.

The other thing is it would move towards this ideal like a logarithm. So while there still would be Staceys even more perfect than other Staceys.. the differences in genetic quality would be vanishing.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

Ya the real bulk of the plan is stopping women with bad genetics/bad family lines from breeding. Women already practice eugenics and we see it doesn't work that well by itself as all the bad genetics keeps spreading as in each generation all the women breed.

There is no logic in any of this except pandering to women above all else. Women get a free pass in everything as far as mate selection goes as "revenge" for them having to in the past, romantically associate with nonchad men in order to extract resources from them or rely on them for protection or provision (gone now with no fault divorce, child support, alimony, taxes, police and government).

 

[WizardofSoda]

There is no logic in any of this except pandering to women above all else. Women get a free pass in everything as far as mate selection goes as "revenge" for them having to in the past, romantically associate with nonchad men in order to extract resources from them or rely on them for protection or provision (gone now with no fault divorce, child support, alimony, taxes, police and government).

Ya at least I could support womens eugenics IF it was leading to getting rid of bad genetics. And considering I have zero chance anyway.

But its actually dysgenic because women with bad genes are still able to mate with Chads, and then that sewage mixes withthe white wine and spreads into the good family bloodlines.

At least in monogamy women with really bad genetics had trouble landing Chads.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

Ya at least I could support womens eugenics IF it was leading to getting rid of bad genetics.

See many short, ethnic guys as much in countries where women's choice is held the most important? What about height matched relationships where the man isn't that tall without there being some factor like money involved? To some extent it's already happening. If not for arranged marriage for example there would be way less currycels than now. But because of genetic recombination and women with bad genetics still breeding it's happening way slower than if only people of both sexes with good genetics bred.

But its actually dysgenic because women with bad genes are still able to mate with Chads, and then that sewage mixes withthe white wine and spreads into the good family bloodlines.

It gets rid of the "pure" darker skinned ethnics so while chad or tyrone's gene pool is diluted ethnics are literally born with more whiter or blacker racial mix. And the western world only considers white and black men as the default sexual entities @RREEEEEEEEE

At least in monogamy women with really bad genetics had trouble landing Chads.

That's what all the fuss about slut shaming and mentioning how "it doesn't matter how many past sexual partners a woman had!" are designed to stop.

 

[WizardofSoda]

You might think that after 7 generations that there would still be Chads and Staceys way above the bottom 10% of people. I thought that too. But thinking about it more I realized that would not be the case.

Chads and Staceys don't have some super advanced genetics like 1 million years more advanced than everyone else. What they have is less raw sewage in their genetics than normies.

By filtering out the bad genetics, it would bring everyone not only up to Chads and Staceys but go beyond as no one today has pure white wine genetics.

On some level maybe women would still be practicing hypergamy.. but two points. First off the differences would be more controllable by conscious action, for example women might go for popularity or athleticism or something that other men who also had Chad genetics could develop if they wanted.

Secondly even if women still excluded the bottom 80% of men, we wouldn't have lost anything. Its still better to have awesome genetics even if you end up single.. than to have raw sewage genetics and be single.


In time we can also change womens nature through eugenics. Even today there are some women who are so into sex that they aren't just Chadsexuals.. they also go for normies for more attention and sex.

We could make women who are not so hypergamous one of the selection criteria. I hypothesized that women with very high sexual desire are more forgiving for looks. Eg.. they aren't going to spend the night alone if they know they can get a guy who isn't top 20%.

You see how any problem we face like hypergamy, we can weed that out too.

 

[kanyepilled]

this doesn't really account for the randomness of genetics and the common problem of things skipping generations. you might have the perfect Chad and Stacy procreate, but the kid could come out looking mid as fuck because he takes after his grandpa, or the parents genes just combined in a bad way.
of course after time the model would work, but it would probably take much longer than just a few generations, and that's not taking in every single other factor i didn't list and am currently not aware of.

but regardless, good post tbh. i've thought of similar things, but more related to race, and a lot less mathematical.

 

[HeroinNihilism]

There was a short time in America when poor ppl could be paid to get sterilized

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

Some ancestors did.
Spartans killed ugly babies, nords invaded villages and stole all the good looking women, while killing everyone else.
Muslims took all the attractive curry women and left the buttfuck ugly ones, hence why Muslim curries are better looking than hindu curries.
@RREEEEEEEEE agree or disagree?

Disagree because I never heard about that?

 

[Blackpincel]

Reminder to OP that health and physical attractiveness are two different things, not really determinant of genetic quality. You can have an incel looking man with a completely clean track record of inherited diseases and health problems while you can have a Chad with the medical report all over the place, people from his family dying from cancer at early age, heart diseases etc.

Also no one considered that in the past centuries because:

1 - Although "looksmatches" were always a thing, average looking men could score a Stacy at least for sex every once in a while, hypergamy wasn't nearly as bad as it is today and arranged marriages were also a thing. Inceldom was never a real threat or issue back in the day, beauty standards existed but they weren't nearly as determinant. No one would predict that within a century or a few more decades many would would become sluts exclusively to the top 20% of men.

2 - Capitalism need the low IQ, low skilled laborers to exist and fill roles within the system.

3 - Ironically the nazism boogeyman forever fucked eugenics programs in other countries that considered doing it for a long time

Also, the only way your idea could work would be if the state was the one responsible to choose who are the ones that should breed. If you let people choose who is a healthy, intelligent and physically attractive partner for decades, the results might not be what you expect.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Disagree because I never heard about that?

Just google pakistani woman and then google hindu woman.
Even in real life the Muslim curry women with scarves were way better looking than the hindu curries.

 

[Permabancel]

I don't see how that'd change anything, attractiveness is relative. If everyone is a chad by today's standards women would only go for gigachads

 

[WizardofSoda]

Reminder to OP that health and physical attractiveness are two different things, not really determinant of genetic quality. You can have an incel looking man with a completely clean track record of inherited diseases and health problems while you can have a Chad with the medical report all over the place, people from his family dying from cancer at early age, heart diseases etc.

Also no one considered that in the past centuries because:

1 - Although "looksmatches" were always a thing, average looking men could score a Stacy at least for sex every once in a while, hypergamy wasn't nearly as bad as it is today and arranged marriages were also a thing. Inceldom was never a real threat or issue back in the day, beauty standards existed but they weren't nearly as determinant. No one would predict that within a century or a few more decades many would would become sluts exclusively to the top 20% of men.

2 - Capitalism need the low IQ, low skilled laborers to exist and fill roles within the system.

3 - Ironically the nazism boogeyman forever fucked eugenics programs in other countries that considered doing it for a long time

Also, the only way your idea could work would be if the state was the one responsible to choose who are the ones that should breed. If you let people choose who is a healthy, intelligent and physically attractive partner for decades, the results might not be what you expect.

There is some difference between looks and health, but much of looks is health.

A robust guy, hearty, high-t, perfect hormonal profile, strong bones, good joints, good organs, etc.. he might not be a pretty boy but women may still find him attractive. Or at least good enough genetically to be passable.

Eg.. today there are a lot of normies who are robust and aesthetic fails and they still find wives.

 

[erenyeager]

Some of them did: plus humans naturally kill ugly males and send them off to die in wars

We need another war

 

[BrettyBoy]

No, we don’t need eugenics, this shit doesn’t make me feel equal as an autistic male.

 

[curryboy420]

Cuck

Fucking retard shitbrain OP, THEYRE DOING EUGENICS NOW, WE ARE BEING EUGENICISED

 

[Transcended Trucel]

Women with good genetics and good family lines of genes should have been forced to become breeders having like 8 children. Women with health problems and/or bad family lines genetically should have had their tubes tied.

For marriage the tubes tied women and lesser quality men can be married and not have the burden of children. But otherwise they can live their lives however they want to.

Unhealthy babies should have been eliminated. For men, only healthy men with perfect health should have been allowed to breed.

I am not so shallow to worry about height or eye color or something like that. Just healthy men who we do testing to find which ones fertile women find the most sexually attractive. Ya in time I can think about things like creativity, aesthetics, intellectual ability, etc.

Even in 1 single generation it would be a quantum leap forward in the genetic quality. Every kid in school would have a high quality genetically mother and a healthy father who women found more sexually attractive than other men. And freak bad genetics babies we would have eliminated.

There would still be quite a bit of variation in genetic quality in generation 1.. but in just a few generations we would be approaching a maximum like in a logarithmic curve. After that it would be slower advance.

As we got onto the flat part of the logarithmic curve, our draconian breeding policies could also be eased up. Like if 95% of women had perfect health and good family lines then our program would not impact most women, and each healthy woman would be more free to decide how many children to have.

The same with men, once we had 95% of men with superb Chad genetics, beyond even the best Chads today..then we would be returning mainly to society as it is now.

based. sadly curries were the most anti eugenics race and now Subhuman as fuck along with sands cousin marriage spam

Fucking retard shitbrain OP, THEYRE DOING EUGENICS NOW, WE ARE BEING EUGENICISED

cope OP is correct. u would still get a foid in OPs society but no kids which is good

 

[uniquename21]

Cuck

you are the biggest cuck, kill yourself idiot. if i see you IRL ill slaughter you

 

[IncelKing]

you are the biggest cuck, kill yourself idiot. if i see you IRL ill slaughter you

Based, show him no mERcy

 

[adharmi]

Some ancestors did.
Spartans killed ugly babies, nords invaded villages and stole all the good looking women, while killing everyone else.
Muslims took all the attractive curry women and left the buttfuck ugly ones, hence why Muslim curries are better looking than hindu curries.
@RREEEEEEEEE agree or disagree?

I 100% agree. most beautiful women i have seen IRL were muslim. Some of them had deathly pale white skin, great figure and really attractive face that they look like straight out of manhua.

 

[uniquename21]

Based, show him no mERcy

he is so annoying tbh

 

[AsiaCel]

Eugenics is cap because ugly foids are allowed to reproduce

 

[Transcended Trucel]

Women with good genetics and good family lines of genes should have been forced to become breeders having like 8 children. Women with health problems and/or bad family lines genetically should have had their tubes tied.

For marriage the tubes tied women and lesser quality men can be married and not have the burden of children. But otherwise they can live their lives however they want to.

Unhealthy babies should have been eliminated. For men, only healthy men with perfect health should have been allowed to breed.

I am not so shallow to worry about height or eye color or something like that. Just healthy men who we do testing to find which ones fertile women find the most sexually attractive. Ya in time I can think about things like creativity, aesthetics, intellectual ability, etc.

Even in 1 single generation it would be a quantum leap forward in the genetic quality. Every kid in school would have a high quality genetically mother and a healthy father who women found more sexually attractive than other men. And freak bad genetics babies we would have eliminated.

There would still be quite a bit of variation in genetic quality in generation 1.. but in just a few generations we would be approaching a maximum like in a logarithmic curve. After that it would be slower advance.

As we got onto the flat part of the logarithmic curve, our draconian breeding policies could also be eased up. Like if 95% of women had perfect health and good family lines then our program would not impact most women, and each healthy woman would be more free to decide how many children to have.

The same with men, once we had 95% of men with superb Chad genetics, beyond even the best Chads today..then we would be returning mainly to society as it is now.

based thread deserves a bump a second time

Eugenics is cap because ugly foids are allowed to reproduce

it needs to happen both ways ideally for the best results