Discussion Leftcel Ideology

[Leftiecel]

I'm a leftcel, and while I'm sure you'll all think I'm a cuck or some shit for it (actually most of you probably won't read all of this bc 20 IQ), I still wanted to post what I think would be best to improve society and stop inceldom.

Main points:
-Establish socialism
-Ban polygamy
-Encourage slutshaming
-Adulatory should be illegal and criminalized (crazy that it isn't in most states)

I often see the argument that socialism will create a situation where women can live off the state and sleep around all they want without consequence. This isn't true. That would be welfare. Socialism doesn't mean welfare. Many people misunderstand this. Socialism is worker ownership of the means of production. Nothing more, nothing less. I do believe in some welfare, specifically in regards to healthcare and pensions. Programs to improve health would be good too. Less fat people would be good for everyone. And one important one that I got from Gaddafi: cheap housing for newly married couples.

Many Incels here piss me off in that they don't want monogamy, they want to be a chad themselves. It reminds me of the American mentality among workers as being "temporarily embarrassed millionaires". They advocate for a system which empowers those on top as much as possible, despite it hurting themselves, as they think they will one day be among those people. The reality is that it is nearly impossible without incredible luck.

I mean, the studies which show that people who have sex with lots of partners are less happy, have higher rates of divorce, ect. apply not only to women, but to men too. You might be happier in the short term having lots of sex with lots of partners, but in the long term, a monogamous, romantic, intimate relationship will make you happier. This is what we should advocate for. Monogamy.

Something a lot of incels don't consider is that the human brain is highly manipulatable. Many women now may lust for only the most attractive men, but if you look to the 19th century and early 20th century, you'll find that this doesn't need to be the case. On a societal level, if monogamy becomes the norm again, women's brains can adapt (or at least those who haven't been ruined beyond saving).


Conclusion:
A socialist economy will greatly increase the wealth and free time of the average worker, to the point of where men can again support families properly. The rich will no longer run the government using their wealth to corrupt. Subsidizing housing for newly married couples will encourage marriage at a younger age. Polygamy being banned and slut shaming being encouraged for the proven suffering they cause will also lead to more marriages. Adulatory being illegal and criminalized is obviously good for everyone. Women, being in a situation where being a slut is far far harder, and being monogamous is very materially rewarding, will, over time, especially as young women grow up under such a system, will make better wives, and be more comfortable with monogamy.

 

[Animecel2D]

 

[Waco]

Fuck politicz we need to destroy soyciety (dear federal agents, I do not wish to commit any sort of crime, I am just venting in a forum for single homosexuals)

 

[Puppeter]

Also trans rights for iraq

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

@Indracel he a friend of yours?

 

[LeFrenchCel]

The incel-governed state would seize women and give them to people who need it more (other incels).
Rebel foids, chads and simps would be send to labor camps.

Long life to the future Incels Democratic Republic of Incelistan

 

[Subhuman0ne]

Sexual Marxism for me means nationalization of vaginas and later redistribiution it to incels.

 

[MiSKiRaT]

Fuck politicz we need to destroy soyciety (dear federal agents, I MEAN EVERYS INGLE WORD WHEN I SAY THIS FUCK ALL OF YOU COME ON AND TAKE ME OUT YOU MOTHERFUCKERS)

 

[Waco]

We need an armed society (in ultra realistic real life simulator)

 

[MiSKiRaT]

We need an armed society (in ultra realistic real life simulator)

BASED

 

[Waco]

BASED

 

[Intellau_Celistic]

What is your career?

 

[Leftiecel]

What is your career?

I'm a forklift driver and I'm in college

 

[kretschmer]

being a right winger is cuck shit "stop being entitled bro, pull yourself up by your bootstrap bro, take responsibility for being a failure bro"

 

[Swagpilled]

Establish socialism

stopped reading. why would I wanna work

 

[SocialzERo]

being a right winger is cuck shit "stop being entitled bro, pull yourself up by your bootstrap bro, take responsibility for being a failure bro"

Sounds better than being blamed 24 7 for being a white heterosexual cis man and having to let rapefugees into your homeland

 

[kretschmer]

Sounds better than being blamed 24 7 for being a white heterosexual cis man and having to let rapefugees into your homeland

sure vomit is better than shit. but we here at incels.is prefer neither. marxst-rodgerism is the way.

 

[Acion1]

Sounds better than being blamed 24 7 for being a white heterosexual cis man and having to let rapefugees into your homeland

Why do you expect people from other races to like you?

 

[SocialzERo]

Why do you expect people from other races to like you?

I dont. Fuck them

 

[Feetcel]

can we have communism but all the brown ppl are dead?

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

The problem with your proposal is that it doesn't say anything about females working or how they purposefully do things like deny sex to husbands. You can't force females to do anything. In a socialist society, these women will work (Engels is the father of feminism) and will have ownership of their own labor. Why should a working female, who has all of her needs meet by her labor, pair with a below average or average man for sexual activity when she could just as easily stay single? Are you going to force her to fuck? If so, what stopping her from becoming a hideous beast of a woman? The DMV equivalent of a woman. The answer is nothing, so your government sanctioned wife/gf will make sex as terrible as an experience as possible until you say "fuck it" and leave her alone.

And women were never attracted to average males btw. The reason they stayed with these males is a combination of resources, family pressure, community pressure, and religion (fear of eternal punishment). Religion is gone and never coming back, community and family pressure largely came for the need for resources (nobody wants to see used up women who can't work wondering around), and men are no longer the exclusive resource providers we once were. The previous state of affairs was created by the agricultural revolution. The current state of affairs is due to a combination of industrialization of human labor and digitization of human communication.

The only solution is male separatism with artificial wombs and sexbots. Human female biology and sexual psychology is not compatible with advanced mass communication and production technologies, so we must make a female that is.

 

[Acion1]

The problem with your proposal is that it doesn't say anything about females working or how they purposefully do things like deny sex to husbands. You can't force females to do anything. In a socialist society, these women will work (Engels is the father of feminism) and will have ownership of their own labor. Why should a working female, who has all of her needs meet by her labor, pair with a below average or average man for sexual activity when she could just as easily stay single? Are you going to force her to fuck? If so, what stopping her from becoming a hideous beast of a woman? The DMV equivalent of a woman. The answer is nothing, so your government sanctioned wife/gf will make sex as terrible as an experience as possible until you say "fuck it" and leave her alone.

And women were never attracted to average males btw. The reason they stayed with these males is a combination of resources, family pressure, community pressure, and religion (fear of eternal punishment). Religion is gone and never coming back, community and family pressure largely came for the need for resources (nobody wants to see used up women who can't work wondering around), and men are no longer the exclusive resource providers we once were. The previous state of affairs was created by the agricultural revolution. The current state of affairs is due to a combination of industrialization of human labor and digitization of human communication.

The only solution is male separatism with artificial wombs and sexbots. Human female biology and sexual psychology is not compatible with advanced mass communication and production technologies, so we must make a female that is.

Capitalism is a shitty system. Why do you support something that never benefited you?

 

[PPEcel]

I don't like bread lines, thank you very much. Plus I like the satisfaction that comes from flying business class and watching normies walk past me during boarding where they'll have to spend the next 16 hours in kettle class. That isn't possible in a socialist economy.

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

Capitalism is a shitty system. Why do you support something that never benefited you?

I'm not defending capitalism. I just don't think Marxian socialism is the answer either, especially in the sexual market.

 

[Acion1]

I'm not defending capitalism. I just don't think Marxian socialism is the answer either, especially in the sexual market.

There are elements of Marxism socialism I'm not fond of, like the materialist world view.

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

There are elements of Marxism socialism I'm not fond of, like the materialist world view.

The problem is that the quality of the women in a sexually redistributionist state will likely be far worse than what we have even now. Imagine every chick being a dykish tumblr SJW lookalike. The old monogamist system worked because of religion and lack of industrialization. No matter how you slice it, the problem is the supply of breeding age females is smaller than the sexual demand from males. And that includes crazy pinkpilled dykes on reddit, not decent foids, which will be in even less supply. It doesn't matter how you rearrange the deck chairs on the ship, it is still sinking.

 

[Acion1]

The problem is that the quality of the women in a sexually redistributionist state will likely be far worse than what we have even now. Imagine every chick being a dykish tumblr SJW lookalike. The old monogamist system worked because of religion and lack of industrialization. No matter how you slice it, the problem is the supply of breeding age females is smaller than the sexual demand from males. And that includes crazy pinkpilled dykes on reddit, not decent foids, which will be in even less supply. It doesn't matter how you rearrange the deck chairs on the ship, it is still sinking.

Women do not need rights in a socialist system.

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

Women do not need rights in a socialist system.

They don't need rights to cause damage though. Feminism came about in a time when they had zero rights. Your government sponsered gf is going to be an obese hippo looking foid with a mold filled pussy, unwashed body, and a mustache. Literal 1/10 foids. Are you going to enforce weight limits on women, no tattoo laws, skin care regiments, etc? Even sharia countries don't do this because of how impractical it is.

 

[rougedoomer]

classic leftist wall of text post. BASED!!!!!

 

[coping_manlet]

I don’t think left or right matters to our cause. What matters is authoritarianism vs libertarianism. We need more authoritarian politicians to drop the fist of the law and put foids in their place (ie make birth control pill 100% accessible to anyone anytime but then make it like 1900$ a pill minimum)

 

[cucksaar]

I don't like bread lines, thank you very much. Plus I like the satisfaction that comes from flying business class and watching normies walk past me during boarding where they'll have to spend the next 16 hours in kettle class. That isn't possible in a socialist economy.

Just send me some money brocel, I need booze rn!!

 

[oldcel75]

You want socialism? Great. Get out in February when there is -35 Celsius, stand in front of a grocery store for 5 hours and come back with nothing.
So thanks, but no thanks. And yes, I was a USSR citizen, and I stood in bread lines for hours.

 

[Reclusemaxxer]

There’s no ideology for your face

 

[5ft4ropeconnoisseur]

I'm a leftcel, and while I'm sure you'll all think I'm a cuck or some shit for it (actually most of you probably won't read all of this bc 20 IQ), I still wanted to post what I think would be best to improve society and stop inceldom.

Main points:
-Establish socialism
-Ban polygamy
-Encourage slutshaming
-Adulatory should be illegal and criminalized (crazy that it isn't in most states)

I often see the argument that socialism will create a situation where women can live off the state and sleep around all they want without consequence. This isn't true. That would be welfare. Socialism doesn't mean welfare. Many people misunderstand this. Socialism is worker ownership of the means of production. Nothing more, nothing less. I do believe in some welfare, specifically in regards to healthcare and pensions. Programs to improve health would be good too. Less fat people would be good for everyone. And one important one that I got from Gaddafi: cheap housing for newly married couples.

Many Incels here piss me off in that they don't want monogamy, they want to be a chad themselves. It reminds me of the American mentality among workers as being "temporarily embarrassed millionaires". They advocate for a system which empowers those on top as much as possible, despite it hurting themselves, as they think they will one day be among those people. The reality is that it is nearly impossible without incredible luck.

I mean, the studies which show that people who have sex with lots of partners are less happy, have higher rates of divorce, ect. apply not only to women, but to men too. You might be happier in the short term having lots of sex with lots of partners, but in the long term, a monogamous, romantic, intimate relationship will make you happier. This is what we should advocate for. Monogamy.

Something a lot of incels don't consider is that the human brain is highly manipulatable. Many women now may lust for only the most attractive men, but if you look to the 19th century and early 20th century, you'll find that this doesn't need to be the case. On a societal level, if monogamy becomes the norm again, women's brains can adapt (or at least those who haven't been ruined beyond saving).


Conclusion:
A socialist economy will greatly increase the wealth and free time of the average worker, to the point of where men can again support families properly. The rich will no longer run the government using their wealth to corrupt. Subsidizing housing for newly married couples will encourage marriage at a younger age. Polygamy being banned and slut shaming being encouraged for the proven suffering they cause will also lead to more marriages. Adulatory being illegal and criminalized is obviously good for everyone. Women, being in a situation where being a slut is far far harder, and being monogamous is very materially rewarding, will, over time, especially as young women grow up under such a system, will make better wives, and be more comfortable with monogamy.

Capitalism and Socialism are both antiquated ideas from the 18th and 19th centuries that were fundamentally wrong to begin with. Both Capitalism and Socialism completely neglect the sexual/breeding economy and instead believe that all humans seek to maximize their utility through the acquisition and accumulation of capital. These theories believe human beings are rational beings focused on wealth when in reality we are animals dictated by our desires to breed. The economy of capital is just a small part in the larger sexual economy that dictates human behavior. Successful reproduction is the driving force behind all human achievement. This sexual economy is mostly dominated by the genetically superior as they are the most successful sexual at reproduction. Having Resource wealth/moneymaxxing in the capital economy can also improve reproductive success but is pales in comparison to being a good-looking Chad. That is why any socialism that promotes to seize the means of production is a waste of time. What we need is a socialism that seizes the means of reproduction.

Also, the part you wrote about women's minds being highly malleable to the point of being convinced to be attracted to ugly dudes is just straight up not true.

 

[mlcurrycel]

I'm a leftcel, and while I'm sure you'll all think I'm a cuck or some shit for it (actually most of you probably won't read all of this bc 20 IQ), I still wanted to post what I think would be best to improve society and stop inceldom.

Main points:
-Establish socialism
-Ban polygamy
-Encourage slutshaming
-Adulatory should be illegal and criminalized (crazy that it isn't in most states)

I often see the argument that socialism will create a situation where women can live off the state and sleep around all they want without consequence. This isn't true. That would be welfare. Socialism doesn't mean welfare. Many people misunderstand this. Socialism is worker ownership of the means of production. Nothing more, nothing less. I do believe in some welfare, specifically in regards to healthcare and pensions. Programs to improve health would be good too. Less fat people would be good for everyone. And one important one that I got from Gaddafi: cheap housing for newly married couples.

Many Incels here piss me off in that they don't want monogamy, they want to be a chad themselves. It reminds me of the American mentality among workers as being "temporarily embarrassed millionaires". They advocate for a system which empowers those on top as much as possible, despite it hurting themselves, as they think they will one day be among those people. The reality is that it is nearly impossible without incredible luck.

I mean, the studies which show that people who have sex with lots of partners are less happy, have higher rates of divorce, ect. apply not only to women, but to men too. You might be happier in the short term having lots of sex with lots of partners, but in the long term, a monogamous, romantic, intimate relationship will make you happier. This is what we should advocate for. Monogamy.

Something a lot of incels don't consider is that the human brain is highly manipulatable. Many women now may lust for only the most attractive men, but if you look to the 19th century and early 20th century, you'll find that this doesn't need to be the case. On a societal level, if monogamy becomes the norm again, women's brains can adapt (or at least those who haven't been ruined beyond saving).


Conclusion:
A socialist economy will greatly increase the wealth and free time of the average worker, to the point of where men can again support families properly. The rich will no longer run the government using their wealth to corrupt. Subsidizing housing for newly married couples will encourage marriage at a younger age. Polygamy being banned and slut shaming being encouraged for the proven suffering they cause will also lead to more marriages. Adulatory being illegal and criminalized is obviously good for everyone. Women, being in a situation where being a slut is far far harder, and being monogamous is very materially rewarding, will, over time, especially as young women grow up under such a system, will make better wives, and be more comfortable with monogamy.

The incel-governed state would seize women and give them to people who need it more (other incels).
Rebel foids, chads and simps would be send to labor camps.

Long life to the future Incels Democratic Republic of Incelistan

Sexual Marxism for me means nationalization of vaginas and later redistribiution it to incels.

being a right winger is cuck shit "stop being entitled bro, pull yourself up by your bootstrap bro, take responsibility for being a failure bro"

Based, but allowing women to work let's them cheat. Lock them behind an iron door in Minecraft

 

[mlcurrycel]

The problem with your proposal is that it doesn't say anything about females working or how they purposefully do things like deny sex to husbands. You can't force females to do anything. In a socialist society, these women will work (Engels is the father of feminism) and will have ownership of their own labor. Why should a working female, who has all of her needs meet by her labor, pair with a below average or average man for sexual activity when she could just as easily stay single? Are you going to force her to fuck? If so, what stopping her from becoming a hideous beast of a woman? The DMV equivalent of a woman. The answer is nothing, so your government sanctioned wife/gf will make sex as terrible as an experience as possible until you say "fuck it" and leave her alone.

And women were never attracted to average males btw. The reason they stayed with these males is a combination of resources, family pressure, community pressure, and religion (fear of eternal punishment). Religion is gone and never coming back, community and family pressure largely came for the need for resources (nobody wants to see used up women who can't work wondering around), and men are no longer the exclusive resource providers we once were. The previous state of affairs was created by the agricultural revolution. The current state of affairs is due to a combination of industrialization of human labor and digitization of human communication.

The only solution is male separatism with artificial wombs and sexbots. Human female biology and sexual psychology is not compatible with advanced mass communication and production technologies, so we must make a female that is.

Good idea, but how long will genetic engineering take? Until then, just keep women inside.

 

[mlcurrycel]

You want socialism? Great. Get out in February when there is -35 Celsius, stand in front of a grocery store for 5 hours and come back with nothing.
So thanks, but no thanks. And yes, I was a USSR citizen, and I stood in bread lines for hours.

Were you in the DDR (avi) ? Kruschev betrayed socialism, poor people in Capitalism have to line up for charity anyway, plus lots of them starve or overdose or rope

 

[wgm24]

The blackpill and leftism go hand and hand. That's why the stormfront 4chan guys hate us. They see our ideology as some weak admittance of equality needing to be enforced. In reality. We just want rights. For everyone. The worker class which includes ugly men. The blackpill is inherently anti class because it preaches for the redistribution of the fruits of society

 

[oldcel75]

Were you in the DDR (avi) ? Kruschev betrayed socialism, poor people in Capitalism have to line up for charity anyway, plus lots of them starve or overdose or rope

I was not in the DDR, Tills face impression just caught my eye in the song. My family was in USSR at the time before Hrushev, at it was horror. I Am from poor family. I studied and worked hard, now I have money.

 

[hatewimen]

I'm a leftcel, and while I'm sure you'll all think I'm a cuck or some shit for it (actually most of you probably won't read all of this bc 20 IQ), I still wanted to post what I think would be best to improve society and stop inceldom.

Main points:
-Establish socialism
-Ban polygamy
-Encourage slutshaming
-Adulatory should be illegal and criminalized (crazy that it isn't in most states)

I often see the argument that socialism will create a situation where women can live off the state and sleep around all they want without consequence. This isn't true. That would be welfare. Socialism doesn't mean welfare. Many people misunderstand this. Socialism is worker ownership of the means of production. Nothing more, nothing less. I do believe in some welfare, specifically in regards to healthcare and pensions. Programs to improve health would be good too. Less fat people would be good for everyone. And one important one that I got from Gaddafi: cheap housing for newly married couples.

Many Incels here piss me off in that they don't want monogamy, they want to be a chad themselves. It reminds me of the American mentality among workers as being "temporarily embarrassed millionaires". They advocate for a system which empowers those on top as much as possible, despite it hurting themselves, as they think they will one day be among those people. The reality is that it is nearly impossible without incredible luck.

I mean, the studies which show that people who have sex with lots of partners are less happy, have higher rates of divorce, ect. apply not only to women, but to men too. You might be happier in the short term having lots of sex with lots of partners, but in the long term, a monogamous, romantic, intimate relationship will make you happier. This is what we should advocate for. Monogamy.

Something a lot of incels don't consider is that the human brain is highly manipulatable. Many women now may lust for only the most attractive men, but if you look to the 19th century and early 20th century, you'll find that this doesn't need to be the case. On a societal level, if monogamy becomes the norm again, women's brains can adapt (or at least those who haven't been ruined beyond saving).


Conclusion:
A socialist economy will greatly increase the wealth and free time of the average worker, to the point of where men can again support families properly. The rich will no longer run the government using their wealth to corrupt. Subsidizing housing for newly married couples will encourage marriage at a younger age. Polygamy being banned and slut shaming being encouraged for the proven suffering they cause will also lead to more marriages. Adulatory being illegal and criminalized is obviously good for everyone. Women, being in a situation where being a slut is far far harder, and being monogamous is very materially rewarding, will, over time, especially as young women grow up under such a system, will make better wives, and be more comfortable with monogamy.

The only true socialism is National Socialism.