Cope Language Fact: Pro-drop languages

[FinnCel]

It is short for pronoun drop langauge.
English is a non pro-drop language.

In English, you always have to specify the subject of the sentence.
It rains

What is this "it" you are referring to? It is embedded in English grammar.

In Finnish, Spanish, Japanese, you can drop the words for "I, you he, we, y'all, they". In Japanese, you know the person doing the action based on the context but Spanish And Finnish have verbs that morph based on the person doing the action.

Mennä (to go)
Minä menen = I go
Sinä menet = you go
Hän menee = He/she goes
Me menemme = we go
Te menette = y'all go
He menevät = they go
Mennään = (in passive) go

It is completely unnecessary to say the pronouns in Finnish. Saying the pronoun just makes it sound more formal (at least to my ears).
So instead of saying "Minä menen kauppaan (I'll go to shop)", I can drop the "minä" and just say "menen kauppaan (I'll go to shop)"
Oh, and Finnish nouns also modify to show its grammatical relationsip to other words. So no seperate words like "to", "from", "at" in Finnish because it is always part of the word.


So in Finnish, to say "it rains", you say "sataa (literally 'rains')".


What pro-drop langauge do you speak?

 

[Indari]

15K !!!

 

[FinnCel]

15K !!!

 

[zangano1]

yes, I speak spanish. Its over for non pro-drop language speakers tbh

 

[Indari]

in finland they say PERKELE XXD GAYYYY

 

[chadalwayswins]

I don't, but always been interested in the structure of languages/linguistics.

where did you learn most of this stuff from?

 

[Monk of Failure]

Congratulations for 15K posts bro.

Anyway, unrelated to this topic but does the Finnish language have retroflex consonant?

 

[Deleted member 19236]

Yes, bro. I speak a pro-drop language.

 

[FinnCel]

Anyway, unrelated to this topic but does the Finnish language have retroflex consonant?

No, we don't.
Finnish phonology is really simple.
It is easy to speak it without opening your mouth much when it is cold.

Yes, bro. I speak a pro-drop language.

What language?

where did you learn most of this stuff from?

Reading shit like Wikipedia and watching shitton of langauge videos. Reading books about linguistics, etc.
And also just noticing differences when learning other languages

 

[Monk of Failure]

It is easy to speak it without opening your mouth much when it is cold.

Interesting. Never knew that climate influences language too.

 

[FinnCel]

Interesting. Never knew that climate influences language too.

Yeah, there are studies that tonal languages only exist in warm climates

 

[Deleted member 19236]

No, we don't.
Finnish phonology is really simple.
It is easy to speak it without opening your mouth much when it is cold.


What language?

Reading shit like Wikipedia and watching shitton of langauge videos. Reading books about linguistics, etc.
And also just noticing differences when learning other languages

Portuguese.
Have you ever read about Ludwig Wittgenstein ? If no, I recommend looking at his works, since you are interested in language.

 

[78980n]

Interesting. Never knew that climate influences language too.

Yeah, there are studies that tonal languages only exist in warm climates

Never thought about that. Interesting.

 

[Deleted member 16624]

Bulgarian is a non-drop language

 

[Mainländer]

Yup. Portuguese is pro-drop. "It rains" in Portuguese is just "chove" which means "rains".

 

[Admiral_Arkantos]

• No, bro
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[FinnCel]

• No, bro
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What's your native language?

 

[Admiral_Arkantos]

What's your native language?

English

 

[FinnCel]

English

Do you know other languages?

 

[Admiral_Arkantos]

Do you know other languages?

French

 

[FinnCel]

French

Great!! You should not stop at one, learn more

 

[Admiral_Arkantos]

Great!! You should not stop at one, learn more

I'm learning German now, but I'm not good enough yet to say that I actually know it

 

[FinnCel]

I'm learning German now, but I'm not good enough yet to say that I actually know it

Learn 2000 most common words, you'll be surprised how much you'll start understanding

 

[Admiral_Arkantos]

Learn 2000 most common words, you'll be surprised how much you'll start understanding

Ye. That's what I'm doing now, I have an Anki deck with the most used 2500 or so words and I'm just going through it

 

[Vorbei]

I'm learning Japanese. I'm still slaving away in the Anki salt mines but I'm about a week away from finishing Core2K and another month from working through the Joyo kanji (I use the Kodansha Kanji Learner's Course for this). I've done 10 new words and 12 kanji every day for the past 6 months. I do a bit of reading and listening immersion each day, but I'll really step things up when I'm done with the Anki decks.

I don't want to live in Japan or even do a Zesto, I'm just sick of shit translations by discord trannies. My endgame is to be able to watch/read raws and maybe translate doujin works as a side hustle, but both goals are years away.