Sanxuary
The Matrix Has Attacked Me
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"Incels are very easy to understand. They're just losers who are deeply committed to remaining losers. Many are objectively unattractive, had bad experiences with women, noticed double standards in dating, relationships, and modern social biases favouring women over men, and got frustrated with feminism.
And for sure they have a point, and it's not good to pretend that they don't. Love is unjustly a lot harder for men who aren't tall or handsome, than it is for men at the top. (But most men are not conventionally good–looking at all. If you look around in your workplace, supermarket or train station, who do you mostly see? Unattractive people.) And women are no angels, there's plenty that's wrong with them (and with men too, I can say that despite being straight and not on the receiving end of any male flaws). And society is stupid and full of contradictions. And radical feminism is a very loopy school of thought and its influence has been dangerously out of control for decades.
These boys got a raw deal. But I think 90 percent of humans face very unfair constraints in life, including women. What makes incels different is that they got fanatically obsessed with the idea that they are individuals fatally, irrecoverably disadvantaged at birth. They are completely fixated on identifying and complaining about every little bitty way that life isn't fair. They're convinced that biology, psychology, economics, government, society and culture have all aligned together to doom them to a shitty existence they cannot change. And it's these huge abstract forces that need to change instead of them. Good luck with that.
The more incels discuss their lives with other incels, the more their beliefs are confirmed through affirmation bias until these beliefs become written in stone. Incel communities have even fashioned these convictions into an impressive formal pseudo–science, which they call Lookism and Looksmaxing among other things.
Elliott Rodger is the best case study of an incel, because unlike most incels he left behind a rich written record of his worldview, My Twisted World. I’ve read it. It wails of many fascinating tragedies such as
Why did ER have to be 5 foot 7 and half–Asian, while his toddler half–brother was fully white and looked like he'd grow much taller?
How come a black classmate, the descendant of slaves, was able to get a beautiful girlfriend, while ER, the descendant of British aristocracy, was not? It was understandable that 100% white guys (ER's racial superiors) could pull girls with effortless ease, but how could blacks, Hispanics, and full Asians (his ugly inferiors) still experience superior romantic outcomes?
ER was so well–dressed and well–mannered. His hair was gorgeous. Why did no beautiful girl ever approach him and beg him for sex?
How come a group of rowdy party teens beat ER up instead of treating him like a rockstar when he tried acting like an asshole? (Since women love assholes.)
Why should a magnificent specimen of humanity like ER have to get a normal job, and especially suffer the humiliation of sweeping and mopping?
How could ER be expected to study textbooks or attend college classes, or try to make anything of himself in life, as long as he wasn't having sex? How could ER enjoy his money, life in California, or anything else the world had to offer, knowing that this burning need was going unfulfilled?
Surely ER's looks, height and half–Asianness made it impossible for him to ever get desirably laid. His only hope would be to get rich at a young age. To accomplish this, he bought hundreds of lottery tickets on multiple occasions and prayed really hard, and also tried to guilt his mom into marrying a millionaire who liked her.
How dare women deny ER erotic pleasure, and how dare other men get girlfriends and have sex when ER wasn't able to?
Perhaps most strangely, ER was known by his parents, roommates, and his one or two friends to sink into grief and uncontrollable rage whenever he saw any man with an attractive, specifically blonde girlfriend around him. This happened frequently at restaurants. On 3 occasions in My Twisted World, ER claims to have stalked couples afterward, spilled his drink on them, and sped off in his car, before going home and weeping bitterly for hours. He referred to this as “striking back at my enemies.” But it still was never satisfactory, since the man who got a drink spilled on him was still having “heavenly sex" with the kind of girl ER couldn't get, hence why ER kept crying afterward. On 2 other occasions, he claims he was prevented from staging a soda assault by the presence of his father or a security guard.
All these injustices prove that human society and the female sex at large unprovokedly doomed ER to a life of virginity, misery and loneliness. Therefore ER had the right to exact deadly retribution, against all women and against all male sex–havers.
My Twisted World is a masterpiece of profound reflection. It ranks next to Boethius's Consolation of Philosophy.
I'm sure Lenin, Tesla, Ataturk, Francisco Pizarro, Steve Jobs, Ernest Hemingway, Patrice Lumumba, etc. found themselves just as perplexed and totally disabled by these injustices as ER was, and only through the intervention of God and the Universe were they able to build the lives they did."
"Incels are very easy to understand. They're just losers who are deeply committed to remaining losers. Many are objectively unattractive, had bad experiences with women, noticed double standards in dating, relationships, and modern social biases favouring women over men, and got frustrated with feminism.
And for sure they have a point, and it's not good to pretend that they don't. Love is unjustly a lot harder for men who aren't tall or handsome, than it is for men at the top. (But most men are not conventionally good–looking at all. If you look around in your workplace, supermarket or train station, who do you mostly see? Unattractive people.) And women are no angels, there's plenty that's wrong with them (and with men too, I can say that despite being straight and not on the receiving end of any male flaws). And society is stupid and full of contradictions. And radical feminism is a very loopy school of thought and its influence has been dangerously out of control for decades.
These boys got a raw deal. But I think 90 percent of humans face very unfair constraints in life, including women. What makes incels different is that they got fanatically obsessed with the idea that they are individuals fatally, irrecoverably disadvantaged at birth. They are completely fixated on identifying and complaining about every little bitty way that life isn't fair. They're convinced that biology, psychology, economics, government, society and culture have all aligned together to doom them to a shitty existence they cannot change. And it's these huge abstract forces that need to change instead of them. Good luck with that.
The more incels discuss their lives with other incels, the more their beliefs are confirmed through affirmation bias until these beliefs become written in stone. Incel communities have even fashioned these convictions into an impressive formal pseudo–science, which they call Lookism and Looksmaxing among other things.
Elliott Rodger is the best case study of an incel, because unlike most incels he left behind a rich written record of his worldview, My Twisted World. I’ve read it. It wails of many fascinating tragedies such as
Why did ER have to be 5 foot 7 and half–Asian, while his toddler half–brother was fully white and looked like he'd grow much taller?
How come a black classmate, the descendant of slaves, was able to get a beautiful girlfriend, while ER, the descendant of British aristocracy, was not? It was understandable that 100% white guys (ER's racial superiors) could pull girls with effortless ease, but how could blacks, Hispanics, and full Asians (his ugly inferiors) still experience superior romantic outcomes?
ER was so well–dressed and well–mannered. His hair was gorgeous. Why did no beautiful girl ever approach him and beg him for sex?
How come a group of rowdy party teens beat ER up instead of treating him like a rockstar when he tried acting like an asshole? (Since women love assholes.)
Why should a magnificent specimen of humanity like ER have to get a normal job, and especially suffer the humiliation of sweeping and mopping?
How could ER be expected to study textbooks or attend college classes, or try to make anything of himself in life, as long as he wasn't having sex? How could ER enjoy his money, life in California, or anything else the world had to offer, knowing that this burning need was going unfulfilled?
Surely ER's looks, height and half–Asianness made it impossible for him to ever get desirably laid. His only hope would be to get rich at a young age. To accomplish this, he bought hundreds of lottery tickets on multiple occasions and prayed really hard, and also tried to guilt his mom into marrying a millionaire who liked her.
How dare women deny ER erotic pleasure, and how dare other men get girlfriends and have sex when ER wasn't able to?
Perhaps most strangely, ER was known by his parents, roommates, and his one or two friends to sink into grief and uncontrollable rage whenever he saw any man with an attractive, specifically blonde girlfriend around him. This happened frequently at restaurants. On 3 occasions in My Twisted World, ER claims to have stalked couples afterward, spilled his drink on them, and sped off in his car, before going home and weeping bitterly for hours. He referred to this as “striking back at my enemies.” But it still was never satisfactory, since the man who got a drink spilled on him was still having “heavenly sex" with the kind of girl ER couldn't get, hence why ER kept crying afterward. On 2 other occasions, he claims he was prevented from staging a soda assault by the presence of his father or a security guard.
All these injustices prove that human society and the female sex at large unprovokedly doomed ER to a life of virginity, misery and loneliness. Therefore ER had the right to exact deadly retribution, against all women and against all male sex–havers.
My Twisted World is a masterpiece of profound reflection. It ranks next to Boethius's Consolation of Philosophy.
I'm sure Lenin, Tesla, Ataturk, Francisco Pizarro, Steve Jobs, Ernest Hemingway, Patrice Lumumba, etc. found themselves just as perplexed and totally disabled by these injustices as ER was, and only through the intervention of God and the Universe were they able to build the lives they did."