I suppose everyone here has seen it already, so the risk of spoiling it to others is pretty much non-existent.
What surprised me the most was the misconception about the message and the massive media backlash.
The media blew it out of proportion in an unimaginable way, spreading false information, deeming the movie as dangerous, violent, and an “akin to an incel training manual”; breeding fear in a desperate attempt to attract clicks. They wanted the movie to inspire a real shooting so they could take advantage of it. They wanted someone to die to use it as a valid point against Incels.
I read an article written by some stupid foid who calls herself a ‘journalist’, saying that the joker was just an outraged inkwel ‘because he didn’t get the girl to have sex with him’. It. is. not. about. sex. Notice how in none of his delusions with Sophie they were having wild sex, he imagined her when he needed support on the night he performed his stand up for the first time, he pictured her laughing at his jokes, telling him he was a hero (indirectly), taking care of him when his mother died, caressing his back and offering him a coffee.
What the movie portrays is the need for nurture. It’s not self-importance or self-pity, although at the same time it is. Everyone craves connection and affection. It is not selfishness nor entitlement.
Joker doesn’t condone violence, it depicts what degradation does to the mind. Incels want to be treated with decency and instead, Arthur was faced with apathetic/hostile behaviours. He was fired from his job, he was lied to, abused, beaten up several times, humiliated.
We all know what happens when you soak a person in shame. Don’t we?
In my perspective, Murray Franklin had it coming. The Joker tolerated his salty comments and mockery until he couldn’t anymore. In that particular scene when Joker starts ranting on live tv, the staff looks over at Murray making gestures for him to end the interview and someone can be heard yelling ‘take him out’, but Murray chose to keep going. He chose to keep going even when things were getting progressively intense. It’s basically Arthur and the psychiatrist, in his monologue he talks about his mental health, being a loner, the spiteful treatment from society, yet, Murray isn’t listening. He’s twisting his answers, asking meaningless questions and accusing him of drowning in self-pity as he is pouring his heart out and trying to explain himself. He is being blatantly ignored and being told that his pain doesn’t matter.
And also this Mother, she absolutely deserved it, The unyielding rage I felt when he opened those files, when we find out she had NPD and delusional psychosis, when we learn that Arthur was found tied to a radiator in a filthy apartment, severely malnourished, with bruises all over his body and face with damage to his head. Goddammit. I guess only people who were abused as a child can truly comprehend this anger, but being mistreated at such a young age by someone you were supposed to rely on creates such an ugly resentment that builds up until it becomes overwhelming.
The movie is truly a comic tragedy, one of my favourite movies of all time. A masterpiece and one of the best cinematic performances in history, which will remain relevant for years. This guy’s video: is High IQ, he says the movie holds a mirror up to the audience and everyone sees a part of themselves. I saw myself in terms of abuse and mistreatment Arthur suffered as a child. In what aspect did the joker speak to you?
What surprised me the most was the misconception about the message and the massive media backlash.
The media blew it out of proportion in an unimaginable way, spreading false information, deeming the movie as dangerous, violent, and an “akin to an incel training manual”; breeding fear in a desperate attempt to attract clicks. They wanted the movie to inspire a real shooting so they could take advantage of it. They wanted someone to die to use it as a valid point against Incels.
I read an article written by some stupid foid who calls herself a ‘journalist’, saying that the joker was just an outraged inkwel ‘because he didn’t get the girl to have sex with him’. It. is. not. about. sex. Notice how in none of his delusions with Sophie they were having wild sex, he imagined her when he needed support on the night he performed his stand up for the first time, he pictured her laughing at his jokes, telling him he was a hero (indirectly), taking care of him when his mother died, caressing his back and offering him a coffee.
What the movie portrays is the need for nurture. It’s not self-importance or self-pity, although at the same time it is. Everyone craves connection and affection. It is not selfishness nor entitlement.
Joker doesn’t condone violence, it depicts what degradation does to the mind. Incels want to be treated with decency and instead, Arthur was faced with apathetic/hostile behaviours. He was fired from his job, he was lied to, abused, beaten up several times, humiliated.
We all know what happens when you soak a person in shame. Don’t we?
In my perspective, Murray Franklin had it coming. The Joker tolerated his salty comments and mockery until he couldn’t anymore. In that particular scene when Joker starts ranting on live tv, the staff looks over at Murray making gestures for him to end the interview and someone can be heard yelling ‘take him out’, but Murray chose to keep going. He chose to keep going even when things were getting progressively intense. It’s basically Arthur and the psychiatrist, in his monologue he talks about his mental health, being a loner, the spiteful treatment from society, yet, Murray isn’t listening. He’s twisting his answers, asking meaningless questions and accusing him of drowning in self-pity as he is pouring his heart out and trying to explain himself. He is being blatantly ignored and being told that his pain doesn’t matter.
And also this Mother, she absolutely deserved it, The unyielding rage I felt when he opened those files, when we find out she had NPD and delusional psychosis, when we learn that Arthur was found tied to a radiator in a filthy apartment, severely malnourished, with bruises all over his body and face with damage to his head. Goddammit. I guess only people who were abused as a child can truly comprehend this anger, but being mistreated at such a young age by someone you were supposed to rely on creates such an ugly resentment that builds up until it becomes overwhelming.
The movie is truly a comic tragedy, one of my favourite movies of all time. A masterpiece and one of the best cinematic performances in history, which will remain relevant for years. This guy’s video: is High IQ, he says the movie holds a mirror up to the audience and everyone sees a part of themselves. I saw myself in terms of abuse and mistreatment Arthur suffered as a child. In what aspect did the joker speak to you?
