It's impossible to quit fapping as an incel

[Deleted member 306]

I have tried everything. I tried watching porn but not fapping, I tried going monk mode, I tried coping with video games to take my mind off porn. I even quitted for 3 months at one point. None of this shit fucking works if you are an incel. I get depressed and suicidal when seeing and talking to girls I'm not going to have sex with. In order to cope I need the dopamine from Porn. It's an endless loop. Go outside->get depressed->fap->get more depressed->go outside->get depressed->repeat. Fuck this shit.

Quitting Porn is not possible as an incel. You NEED women in your life to support and validate you in order to quit fapping. As an incel YOU DON'T HAVE THAT. You are forever bound to be a slave to your urges and this thing will control you forever. Again, I have had long NoFap streaks and I always ended up relapsing. Why? Cause depression always got the best of me. I needed my dose of nude chicks to keep myself going.

All these guys on NoFap with long streaks they have gfs and relationships to keep them stray. They don't have to endure an existance of being literally nothing to women, where girls don't want anything to do with you. Like hell, some of them have even told their gfs about it and they receive support from them. I don't have any support or motivation to keep me going. I don't know what to do anymore. Life without sex is depressing and calibrating it with Porn gives you a temporary happiness but the depression get worse. Then you quit Porn only to forget how depressed it makes you feel so you relapse again.

 

[A Good Friend]

I get it, but life with sex can be pretty bad too.

I've known a lot of suicides. All married or in a relationship.

 

[Reddit_is_for_cucks]

if you can stop masturbating for 3 months, you are not addicted.

I masturbate 2-3 times daily and it's very hard for me to stop because that is the only thing that makes me feel good.

 

[Deleted member 306]

if you can stop masturbating for 3 months, you are not addicted.

I masturbate 2-3 times daily and it's very hard for me to stop because that is the only thing that makes me feel good.

In ordered to do that I coped really hard. I concinced myself I was a mentalcel but eventually I realized it was all cope and relapsed.

 

[Deleted member 306]

Just KYS

 

[Deleted member 56]

Just KYS

 

[NegroKing]

I am increasingly losing the urge to masturbate as I slip into depression. And to porn especially. I'm sick of it. I just cannot stand watching other men fucking women who wouldn't spit on me if I were on fire in ways that I could only ever dream of.

 

[Deleted member 306]

I am increasingly losing the urge to masturbate as I slip into depression. I'm sick of it. I just cannot stand watching other men fucking women who wouldn't spit on me if I were on fire in ways that I could only ever dream of.

My urge beats depression.

 

[DankIncel]

We as humans need to relief our sexual tensions. And we can't get a Femoid, so what do we do? Obviously jacking off is the only thing we can do. It is logical.

 

[Deleted member 306]

We as humans need to relief our sexual tensions. And we can't get a Femoid, so what do we do? Obviously jacking off is the only thing we can do. It is logical.

It's not because you are seeing women deliberately online who you shouldn't be able to see.

 

[Red Shambhala]

Today is day 6 of NoFap for me. Last time I fapped was on Sunday, December 3th. This morning was pretty hard, but I made it. I'm optimistic about making it including tomorrow and then at least have not fapped for 7 days. On the other hand, this was a HELL of a week with tons of work, stress, a funeral and a cold. So ... in that circumstances it was rather easy not to wank. But still hard enough! Maybe I'll wank on Monday and then give it another try over the Holidays which will probably be much harder then.

 

[blickpall]

This morning was pretty hard

 

[Red Shambhala]

A problem is that we are permanently tempted and aroused on a soft-pornographic level. Even the way these slutty shitcunts dress these days is soft-pornographic. Then you have media, ads, vidya, everything - everything soft-pornographized. At the same time it's increasingly hard, if not outright impossible, to satisfy these urges. Arousal is commercial and female - but satisfaction is a private enterprise.

I also believe that a culture of nakedness like the popular nude beaches Socialist countries had are a better way to deal with the human body and temptation. A nude body in a normal environment is not tempting the same way this soft-pornographization is tempting. These days, people have all kinds of complexes and neuroses about normal nude bodies and genitals, but are, at the same time, hyper-sexualized. It should be the other way around: more acceptance for normal nudity, less acceptance for slutty soft-pornography that always tempts but never displays actual nudity with genitals etc.

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The problem is that I use sexual(ized) fantasies as a way of escapism, if you will. Just to relax and calm down, before this bombardment of thoughts, later I have to do this, then that, etc. starts again. If you don't fap you have to find other thoughts to calm an anxious mind. But this is one of the reasons why I'm doing it. I hardly watch any porn, that's not the problem - but I don't want to be so addicted to sexualized fantasies as a way to cope with stress and calm down. This is something I want to train my mind to be able to do as long as I am at least somewhat sane and functional.

 

[Deleted member 306]

I managed to go around 3 months on no gap last year. But nowadays, I can barely go 3 days without fapping.

No fap is only really legit to guys who are already able to pick up girls with success but just have high inhibition.

I hate sexual urges. Being ugly is one thing, but having sexual instincts that you will NEVER satiasfy because you are ugly fucking sucks.

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Today is day 6 of NoFap for me. Last time I fapped was on Sunday, December 3th. This morning was pretty hard, but I made it. I'm optimistic about making it including tomorrow and then at least have not fapped for 7 days. On the other hand, this was a HELL of a week with tons of work, stress, a funeral and a cold. So ... in that circumstances it was rather easy not to wank. But still hard enough! Maybe I'll wank on Monday and then give it another try over the Holidays which will probably be much harder then.

Wanking and sex are good for colds and stomachaches.

 

[Deleted member 306]

A problem is that we are permanently tempted and aroused on a soft-pornographic level. Even the way these slutty shitcunts dress these days is soft-pornographic. Then you have media, ads, vidya, everything -  everything soft-pornographized. At the same time it's increasingly hard, if not outright impossible, to satisfy these urges. Arousal is commercial and female - but satisfaction is a private enterprise.

I also believe that a culture of nakedness like the popular nude beaches Socialist countries had are a better way to deal with the human body and temptation. A nude body in a normal environment is not tempting the same way this soft-pornographization is tempting. These days, people have all kinds of complexes and neuroses about normal nude bodies and genitals, but are, at the same time, hyper-sexualized. It should be the other way around: more acceptance for normal nudity, less acceptance for slutty soft-pornography that always tempts but never displays actual nudity with genitals etc.

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The problem is that I use sexual(ized) fantasies as a way of escapism, if you will. Just to relax and calm down, before this bombardment of thoughts, later I have to do this, then that, etc. starts again. If you don't fap you have to find other thoughts to calm an anxious mind. But this is one of the reasons why I'm doing it. I hardly watch any porn, that's not the problem - but I don't want to be so addicted to sexualized fantasies as a way to cope with stress and calm down. This is something I want to train my mind to be able to do as long as I am at least somewhat sane and functional.

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Very good point. I think the problem with porn is its' acessibility. You are home alone and all you need to do is open the PC and poof you have a naked woman in front of you. If there was more nudity acceptance in public/real life but no porn then things would be better. You would get used to nudity in a social enviroment so you would learn to behave yourself.

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If it’s  just the sexual gratification you want then just go for escorts. However I’m assuming you want the validation that comes with it.

Going to escorts is like fapping. It's easily acessbile gratification just like masturbation. You can get hooked up to that as well.

 

[Indari]

not fapping is gay

 

[Deleted member 306]

not fapping is gay

How so?

 

[Framecel222]

Why would you feel any desire to quit fapping though? There's no reason to do so.

 

[avsky1]

i guess the one pro for me being a footfag is that i can look at cute toes and get off enough from that. i do occasionally look at traditional porn, but i imagine it's pretty detrimental watching other men pound whores in the ass for hours every day.

 

[Deleted member 306]

Why would you feel any desire to quit fapping though? There's no reason to do so.

Fapping gives me a temorary high but makes me more depressed because it's ashaming. Then I stop doing it until I forget how shitty it feels and relapse.

 

[Framecel222]

Fapping gives me a temorary high but makes me more depressed because it's ashaming. Then I stop doing it until I forget how shitty it feels and relapse.

It shouldn't make you feel sad, even Chads jerk off.

 

[Deleted member 306]

It shouldn't make you feel sad, even Chads jerk off.

MEGA COPE. Chads don't jerk off. Chads fuck. Maybe they fuck a trap but definiately not jerk off. Thye might do it with gfs though.

 

[modus_coperandi]

Just out of curiosity what percentage of the population of males would you say are Chadlite or above?

It really depends if you use autistic PSL scales which everyone irl wouldn't understand at all or the regular and highly subjective concept of facial harmony.

 

[Deleted member 306]

Just out of curiosity what percentage of the population of males would you say are Chadlite or above?

Maybe 75% idk tbh.

 

[sleyno]

Dude keep on with nofap and stop listening to all these porn addict copers who worship females by fapping to them even though they despite them. Do it for your own god damn sanity and to combat depression because you know exactly how shitty you feel after masturbation. 

Some proposals to make nofap easier: lower your estrogen (by eating aromatase inhibiting food and supplementation), google raypeat to know how to achieve it. Elevated estrogen is the main cause for sexual cravings do not confuse it with a high libido.

 

[Deleted member 306]

Dude keep on with nofap and stop listening to all these porn addict copers who worship females by fapping to them even though they despite them. Do it for your own god damn sanity and to combat depression because you know exactly how shitty you feel after masturbation. 

Some proposals to make nofap easier: lower your estrogen (by eating aromatase inhibiting food and supplementation), google raypeat to know how to achieve it. Elevated estrogen is the main cause for sexual cravings do not confuse it with a high libido.

Actually, I relaplse due to intense depression. I go outside, get ignored by women, which destroys me and makes me suicidal so when iI get back home, I use porn as a means to escape reality and enter a world where women are available to me. Nothing to do with the food I eat. It's all psychological. I suffer from compulsion masturbation syndroeme which is very commong amaong ugly males.

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Three quarters of the population are Chadlite or above?!?!

I mean 25%

 

[Deleted member 306]

Ah alright. I always thought it was 20-25%. What about the population of men that are Chad and above?

20%.

 

[blickpall]

Just out of curiosity what percentage of the population of males would you say are Chadlite or above?

 

[modus_coperandi]

Seems accurate.

 

[blickpall]

Why is the gigachad section 13%. Surely it should be 0.15% as the rest of the graph adds up to 99.85%

.13% for the entire section of 9+

Reason for the missing .02% is because of rounding in the normal curve graph provided prior to editing.

 

[idkwattodowithlife]

No fap only makes sense if you have a gf.

 

[blickpall]

Seems accurate.

I hope you and others appreciate how I made "incels" yellow on white and therefore difficult to notice because that's exactly what incels are.

 

[Deleted member 306]

No fap only makes sense if you have a gf.

It also makes sense if you want a better quality for a terrible life.

 

[modus_coperandi]

I hope you and others appreciate how I made "incels" yellow on white and therefore difficult to notice because that's exactly what incels are.

Are they? IMO everyone below 5 is an equally invisible entity to most of the population, they don't differentiate that carefully between the shades of ugliness.

 

[blickpall]

Are they? IMO everyone below 5 is an equally invisible entity to most of the population, they don't differentiate that carefully between the shades of ugliness.

People who are legit deformed get stared at and noticed, just not in the way that matters. People who are just "below average" get ignored entirely.

 

[blickpall]

What bracket do you think I fall into there? I’m leaning towards the 5 bracket.

To be quite honest, it doesn't matter what I think, this is off-topic, and I barely remember what you look like. Just go on Tinder and get your answers, my opinion of where you fall on a curve doesn't mean shit.

 

[koreancel26]

y wud quitting porn ever be the answer? i prefer to fap in the morning and get it over with asap so i dont have to deal with it the rest of the day. it works better when ur an oldcel tho...

 

[modus_coperandi]

People who are legit deformed get stared at and noticed, just not in the way that matters. People who are just "below average" get ignored entirely.

I agree theoretically at least, but the current state of our virtue signaling society tries hardly to ignore them as well and actively avoid any further staring. Most people don't want to reveal themselves as the bullies they secretly are.

 

[Framecel222]

MEGA COPE. Chads don't jerk off. Chads fuck. Maybe they fuck a trap but definiately not jerk off. Thye might do it with gfs though.

It's not a cope. Do you ever leave your house? Have you ever talked to a Chad? They jerk off and they admit it lmao.

 

[blickpall]

I agree theoretically at least, but the current state of our virtue signaling society tries hardly to ignore them as well and actively avoid any further staring. Most people don't want to reveal themselves as the bullies they secretly are.

Yea I meant more in terms of the unconscious effect of your eyes being drawn to something that stands out. Merely below-average people don't stand out, while deformed truecels do.

 

[eurocel]

I've also done 3 months nofap in the past during my self improvement phase. And it wasn't even that hard, so i realized i'm not addicted to porn and now i just enjoy it while i still can.

 

[modus_coperandi]

The truecels will still suffer abuse from little children who don’t know any better. It’s socially unacceptable to bully legit deformed people though. I can only imagine what sort of abuse the poor guys would receive if society deemed it acceptable to bully them as well.

You as a fairly blackpilled guy, a biological being and educated on the intricacies of Lookism won't be able to treat them as equals as well.

 

[modus_coperandi]

I’d extend genuine sympathy towards them 

That's exactly what I was talking about. Extending sympathy is something I would expect to do to mentally retarded people. I genuinely think people aren't capable of meeting Truecels at eye level and necessarily act in a condescending way even if it's unconsciously. That's the reason I wouldn't want be friends with Chad even if he was a genuinely nice person, there wouldn't be any common ground.

 

[dr-problematic]

it's not about possibiliy of quiting, it is very much possible, but i'd say its extremely unhealthy, since it's the only thing for incels that somehow resembles sex act and saves their brain making it partially belive that you are related to those girls on the screen

otherwise you'd turn into castrated male living in solitude, year or so and you'd lose sanity

so i'd say nofap is unhealthy

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It's not a cope. Do you ever leave your house? Have you ever talked to a Chad? They jerk off and they admit it lmao.

first time on this forum you said something smart, let's clap all together

 

[shadowsoulz125]

No fap is not possible for a testostrone fueled male who does get sex regularly.

 

[Deleted member 306]

It's not a cope. Do you ever leave your house? Have you ever talked to a Chad? They jerk off and they admit it lmao.

They are joking man.

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No fap is not possible for a testostrone fueled male who does get sex regularly.

NoFap is not possible if you don't have another means to cope

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it's not about possibiliy of quiting, it is very much possible, but i'd say its extremely unhealthy, since it's the only thing for incels that somehow resembles sex act and saves their brain making it partially belive that you are related to those girls on the screen

otherwise you'd turn into castrated male living in solitude, year or so and you'd lose sanity

so i'd say nofap is unhealthy

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first time on this forum you said something smart, let's clap all together

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It's better to lose sanity than life

 

[dr-problematic]

It's better to lose sanity than life

idk why would u say this horse shit, which has nothing to do with my comment, but speaking on the topic above - no, absolutely not. 

its much better to lose life, than to live insane, meaning you arent acting on your own will behalf, you are under influence of mental disorders.

 

[AngelOfDisease]

NoFap is bullshit, anyway.

 

[Deleted member 306]

idk why would u say this horse shit, which has nothing to do with my comment, but speaking on the topic above - no, absolutely not. 

its much better to lose life, than to live insane, meaning you arent acting on your own will behalf, you are under influence of mental disorders.

I don't know. I much rather be paranoid about real girls than be obessed wit porn

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NoFap is bullshit, anyway.

It is. But with every relapse the addcition grow stronger and more out of control. I want it out. Not because it will get me laid but just because it stinks.