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It's actually insane how much effort getting/keeping a GF is for a normalfag

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A flow chart for the dating life of normalfags:
  • get a Tinder match (actually where most of us fail, because it didn't begin for us, but even for normies this could take months)
  • keep her interested until the first date via online conversation (this is a few weeks, in these weeks she will be bombarded with more and more options, some of them better, some of them worse, even if you got a match she might just stop talking to you for whatever reason possible and with no explanation); the questions: Do you have a high-paying job?; Do you have a flat/house?; etc. (things that aren't guaranteed)
Most of us never even got to this point, but even a real date is not a guarantee (it just means that you have fulfilled the most "basal requirements" or that your money doesn't stink), it is the first of many hurdles:
  • go with her on the first date (this would be to a very fancy restaurant; so for two people -and you are implicitely expected to pay for both of you- it means roughly >>50€/>>60$, you also cannot hold back or set limits because this would be a death blow, keep in mind: there are many women who just use dating apps for free dinner and even if you do everything perfectly it might not work out which means no further dates and then you have lost the money - and then there are also the fuel costs associated with driving and the car pill itself)
  • repeat that because many women won't give you a kiss (not talking about sex) after the first date (yes, women suddenly become modest around everyone sub-chad), expect about four of five dates - depending on where you live this can mean enormous costs (both for food and for driving), far over 300€/365$ would be lost for food alone to go this point (likely far more considering the costs of most expensive restaurants) - without even taking stuff like fancy clothes, car fuel, hygiene products (like expensive aftershaves/deodorants/perfumes/etc.) into account (and this only for one girl and the unlikely scenario that you get so far; this will be -when you take taxes/rent away- nearly half of the money you have available for a month with a good-paying job)
  • then or later the first sex, after high school/university there are almost no female virgins anymore, this means that she has demands that must be immediately fulfilled (no room for any failures - and failures like erectile dysfunction or premature ejaculation are common because a human body isn't a machine), she won't have the patience to teach you anything (certain knowledge is expected), you either win or you fail (to meet the standards at least partially you also need to have some experience and gathering experience is almost impossible even for normalfags because they have such an opportunity maybe once/twice a year)
  • then (or prior depending on the girl) you gradually get to meet her family - expect enormous amounts of questions and depending on the respective father everything you say can be wrong (if you work as a STEMcel/doctor/etc. and the father is a physical labourer he will deem you as workshy/a weak, emasculated pussy, if you work as a phyiscal labourer and the father is educated you are seen as a primitive animal incapable of providing for his daughter) - and yes, the family still has some level of power over women (simply by talking so much to them that they believe it in the end, even though she was genuinely speaking attracted to you)
  • then you gradually also meet more and more of her friend circle - and guess what women say in private ("You can do better!"/etc.), so even if you got to this point which is highly unlikely if you aren't >5 and NT) this would prove to be detrimental
  • and then there are also things like fights in a relationship (and guess who has the power there) and what happens if you lose your job/become sick/etc.?
Unironically: Sub8 law is true, not in the sense that Sub8s cannot get dates or relationships, but that they will have only asymmetrical/shitty relationships. The price for pussy is far too high.
 
You forgot most normalfags also have to jestermaxx 24/7 to retain their gf's attention. The girl never puts any effort into her interactions with the normalfag
 
Incredibly insane all that energy, time exerted for what exactly.
 
great breakdown

lotta guys don't understand how over it is if you don't have any phone numbers even, normies really do spend weeks texting without it leading to anything, my friend a couple years ago told me that femoids routinely "talk dirty" over text with him, suggesting sex is imminent, then find some reason to get angry at him and stop talking except for one-word answers

now imagine not even having numbers to begin with and thinking you'll just bump into someone in the park or the cafe and start a relationship
 
"@Ghost_ Strucid [UWSL] He just wants some attention is all, white women are not interested in him and white "lads" do not want to hang out with him so he comes to drill videos looking for attention from black males, he probably goes to worldstar trolling for attention from young black men as well.[/UWSL][UWSL] [/UWSL][UWSL] [/UWSL][UWSL]Attention is a drug."[/UWSL]
 
A flow chart for the dating life of normalfags:
  • get a Tinder match (actually where most of us fail, because it didn't begin for us, but even for normies this could take months)
  • keep her interested until the first date via online conversation (this is a few weeks, in these weeks she will be bombarded with more and more options, some of them better, some of them worse, even if you got a match she might just stop talking to you for whatever reason possible and with no explanation); the questions: Do you have a high-paying job?; Do you have a flat/house?; etc. (things that aren't guaranteed)
Most of us never even got to this point, but even a real date is not a guarantee (it just means that you have fulfilled the most "basal requirements" or that your money doesn't stink), it is the first of many hurdles:
  • go with her on the first date (this would be to a very fancy restaurant; so for two people -and you are implicitely expected to pay for both of you- it means roughly >>50€/>>60$, you also cannot hold back or set limits because this would be a death blow, keep in mind: there are many women who just use dating apps for free dinner and even if you do everything perfectly it might not work out which means no further dates and then you have lost the money - and then there are also the fuel costs associated with driving and the car pill itself)
  • repeat that because many women won't give you a kiss (not talking about sex) after the first date (yes, women suddenly become modest around everyone sub-chad), expect about four of five dates - depending on where you live this can mean enormous costs (both for food and for driving), far over 300€/365$ would be lost for food alone to go this point (likely far more considering the costs of most expensive restaurants) - without even taking stuff like fancy clothes, car fuel, hygiene products (like expensive aftershaves/deodorants/perfumes/etc.) into account (and this only for one girl and the unlikely scenario that you get so far; this will be -when you take taxes/rent away- nearly half of the money you have available for a month with a good-paying job)
  • then or later the first sex, after high school/university there are almost no female virgins anymore, this means that she has demands that must be immediately fulfilled (no room for any failures - and failures like erectile dysfunction or premature ejaculation are common because a human body isn't a machine), she won't have the patience to teach you anything (certain knowledge is expected), you either win or you fail (to meet the standards at least partially you also need to have some experience and gathering experience is almost impossible even for normalfags because they have such an opportunity maybe once/twice a year)
  • then you gradually also meet more and more of her friend circle - and guess what women say in private ("You can do better!"/etc.), so even if you got to this point which is highly unlikely if you aren't >5 and NT) this would prove to be detrimental
  • and then there are also things like fights in a relationship (and guess who has the power there) and what happens if you lose your job/become sick/etc.?
Unironically: Sub8 law is true, not in the sense that Sub8s cannot get dates or relationships, but that they will have only asymmetrical/shitty relationships. The price for pussy is far too high.
Her friends can try to turn you into a red flag for not participating in certain things like drinking alcohol and her not being comfortable with ya being inexperienced will also become a red flag too
And if you tried going to a sex worker you can get rejected by the sex worker for also being inexperienced Julie which is why I haven’t tried talking to women like that (trying to date wise) in about 1 3/4 years
 
Holding frame gets insanely difficult (imagine trying to scoop sand off a large beach with a spade all day), the levels directly proportional to every 0.1% drop in your SMV points.

As you climb up, the competition is intense and the average subhuman gets crushed under the load eventually. Incels are victims to this at the entrance; TRP 'plate spinners' lose it when the plate demands more, MGTOW* lose it in the divorce courts.

*I would consider a man divorce raped enough to shock him into going alone for the rest of his life - financially, emotionally ruined after his kids are taken away - to be the true MGTOW. Others cope under the acronym
 
This is for the bluepill retards ofcourse it's gonna be difficult. Looking for a girlfriend on Tinder is what normfags do and that's where they fail. Normfags also spend 50$ on dates and shit which is again lowIQ as fuck. If you're a normfag then you shouldn't even be on Tinder. Believe it or not colleagues/friends in a common social group date each other all the time. If you can get a girl interested in you then you don't need any of that shit. Just treat her like you treat little kids and you don't need to strategically act to save the relationship but this only works if the girl is into you and that's the first step. If you fail the first step then don't even bother with dating.

tldr: don't bother with dating if you can't get a girl interested in you because of your subhumanity but if you can do that then you shouldn't worry about anything. Just act normally
 
Women should stop oppressing men like this.
 
If we aren't together by the end of the first date, I'm not going to go on another date with the skank.
 
If we aren't together by the end of the first date, I'm not going to go on another date with the skank.
Exactly need to conserve and waste very little energy and time.
 
High effort to keep a roastie while she cucks the boyfriend from behind.
 
I see this a lot.
For example there was a 29 year old single mother with two boys at work and she had a boyfriend who was 6'1" or so and white, average build, decent face and beardmaxxed.
In order to keep this 185lb tattooed roastie he had to give up all hobbies that did not involve her or Chad's kids and spend hundreds of dollars a month by eating out several times a week. He also had to buy Chad's kids lots of gifts (gokarts and shit) and keep them in sports. Also requires several vacations a year with her and Chad's kids in tow.
In return he got the occasional meal like a jar of alfredo mixed with pasta and I can only pray he got laid from time to time but I can't imagine she feels much down there after squirting out two babies.

She did at least work but she did not seek out child support because Chad will be Chad teehee.
 
86% of breakups are initiated by women
 
if you're a normie you better be perfect, otherwise the slightest mistake will be enough reason for her to dump you. Meanwhile chad can beat the shit out of her and she's the one to apologize and beg forgiveness
 
This only applies in hypergamous areas where almost every roastie is on tinder.
 
then you gradually also meet more and more of her friend circle - and guess what women say in private ("You can do better!"/etc.), so even if you got to this point which is highly unlikely if you aren't >5 and NT) this would prove to be detrimental
This is common
 
Good read. Sub 8 law is effectively true.
 
now imagine not even having numbers to begin with and thinking you'll just bump into someone in the park or the cafe and start a relationship
Why would you not have a fucking Phone number in fucking 2021? Get a pinephone, avoid the botnet and get all the rewards of joining civilization without its drawbacks.
 

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Why would you not have a fucking Phone number in fucking 2021? Get a pinephone, avoid the botnet and get all the rewards of joining civilization without its drawbacks.
i'm talking about a man having a woman's phone number
I see this a lot.
For example there was a 29 year old single mother with two boys at work and she had a boyfriend who was 6'1" or so and white, average build, decent face and beardmaxxed.
In order to keep this 185lb tattooed roastie he had to give up all hobbies that did not involve her or Chad's kids and spend hundreds of dollars a month by eating out several times a week. He also had to buy Chad's kids lots of gifts (gokarts and shit) and keep them in sports. Also requires several vacations a year with her and Chad's kids in tow.
In return he got the occasional meal like a jar of alfredo mixed with pasta and I can only pray he got laid from time to time but I can't imagine she feels much down there after squirting out two babies.

She did at least work but she did not seek out child support because Chad will be Chad teehee.
brutal as fuck, was he younger than her too? that's how it usually goes. if an ok guy is single for too long and can't get a decent wife he will get predated on by a shit tier woman older than him. even alleged "tough guys" will have this fate. @Hell
 
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if you're a normie you better be perfect, otherwise the slightest mistake will be enough reason for her to dump you. Meanwhile chad can beat the shit out of her and she's the one to apologize and beg forgiveness
Foids are disgusting animals.
 
thinking about rape tbh
 
If we aren't together by the end of the first date, I'm not going to go on another date with the skank.
Tbh. They do hookups so what is the problem? If Chad is good enough to get sex easily then why shouldn't the normie she's going to date get it.

It's just admitting the guy is subhuman at that point because who actually believes the "I'm not that kind of girl" shit in 2021.
 
You forgot most normalfags also have to jestermaxx 24/7 to retain their gf's attention. The girl never puts any effort into her interactions with the normalfag
 
Being in a romantic relationship isn't worth it i our age, i'm better here jerking off to inanimate objects and keeping my money.
 

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