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It often seems like video games are getting technically worse not better

Is this common?


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@Skyrim I thought you might find this interesting!
 
A lot of modern games I think are just the result of some DEI hires throwing assets together in an engine like Unreal and calling it a day.
 
It happens all the time, you rarely see games with real physics or npc that have day/night cycle with it's own life and goals.
Lazy millenial devs


Lazy worthless millennial/zoomer devs only become devs to get a paycheck they are not passionate about games or gaming they only care about tech that will make their job position even easier, even tho they don't do much.

Just look at the FF7 Rebirth that shitty game requires 2x stronger gpu than Remake and don't even work on gpus like rx 5700 xt without mesh shaders despite them being able to run it at 60fps, they got so lazy that they don't want to waste a single day to implement standard shader generation.

For Wukong you are pretty much forced to use frame gen if you want to have stable 60fps or buy a new gpu :society:Honestly with modern shitty coded games gpu like RTX 4070 ti super is a minimum GPU to have relatively good experience (4070 ti would be enough in perfect world but since it has only 12gb of vram it's just worthless), you also need to buy a new screen like 4k to not see a smear of DLSS, all those games are unplayable at 1080p
 
It happens all the time, you rarely see games with real physics or npc that have day/night cycle with it's own life and goals. View attachment 1394237

Lazy worthless millennial/zoomer devs only become devs to get a paycheck they are not passionate about games or gaming they only care about tech that will make their job position even easier, even tho they don't do much.

Just look at the FF7 Rebirth that shitty game requires 2x stronger gpu than Remake and don't even work on gpus like rx 5700 xt without mesh shaders despite them being able to run it at 60fps, they got so lazy that they don't want to waste a single day to implement standard shader generation.

For Wukong you are pretty much forced to use frame gen if you want to have stable 60fps or buy a new gpu :society:Honestly with modern shitty coded games gpu like RTX 4070 ti super is a minimum GPU to have relatively good experience (4070 ti would be enough in perfect world but since it has only 12gb of vram it's just worthless), you also need to buy a new screen like 4k to not see a smear of DLSS, all those games are unplayable at 1080p

Is it any better on console?

And yeah that dev has simplified things down too far. It's odd.

That's wild that in Oblivion they have their own lives. I'm not sure if they did in Skyrim?

I thought the only game to do this was Shenmue.

I am too boom, lol
 
Is it any better on console?

And yeah that dev has simplified things down too far. It's odd.

That's wild that in Oblivion they have their own lives. I'm not sure if they did in Skyrim?

I thought the only game to do this was Shenmue.

I am too boom, lol
Depending on the hardware realistically only Space Marine 2 is better on console (it still drops below 60fps) rest is worse if you have something like rtx 3060/4060. But if you have old gen amd gpu then you are screwed since you won't even be able to launch those games. Wukong is completely fucked on all platforms.
 
It happens all the time, you rarely see games with real physics or npc that have day/night cycle with it's own life and goals. View attachment 1394237

Lazy worthless millennial/zoomer devs only become devs to get a paycheck they are not passionate about games or gaming they only care about tech that will make their job position even easier, even tho they don't do much.

Just look at the FF7 Rebirth that shitty game requires 2x stronger gpu than Remake and don't even work on gpus like rx 5700 xt without mesh shaders despite them being able to run it at 60fps, they got so lazy that they don't want to waste a single day to implement standard shader generation.

For Wukong you are pretty much forced to use frame gen if you want to have stable 60fps or buy a new gpu :society:Honestly with modern shitty coded games gpu like RTX 4070 ti super is a minimum GPU to have relatively good experience (4070 ti would be enough in perfect world but since it has only 12gb of vram it's just worthless), you also need to buy a new screen like 4k to not see a smear of DLSS, all those games are unplayable at 1080p
this fag is one of the reason for downgrades. Most game devs are taught to use ue5 to be safe which in results leads studio to use unreal engine 5 and ditch their in house engine because in-house engine requires more skill which these fags lack. If they do their work instead of having their pronouns in bio and spamming free palestine everywhere we wouldn't be here
 
this fag is one of the reason for downgrades. Most game devs are taught to use ue5 to be safe which in results leads studio to use unreal engine 5 and ditch their in house engine because in-house engine requires more skill which these fags lack. If they do their work instead of having their pronouns in bio and spamming free palestine everywhere we wouldn't be here

Yah it's much easier to just throw some assets together and do as little programming as possible.

Then they can get back to doing their DEI hire stuff like posting on Reddit while the game flops.
 
@Skyrim I thought you might find this interesting!
I agree games have been getting worse lately. I can name so many huge games with massive budgets that ended up being a total disaster fallout 76, battlefield 2042 to name a few, almost every video game just seems rushed now
 
I agree games have been getting worse lately. I can name so many huge games with massive budgets that ended up being a total disaster fallout 76, battlefield 2042 to name a few, almost every video game just seems rushed now

I think these companies are just a lot less competent now.

And possibly the higher-ups feel they have more leeway with putting out broken products because they can just patch them later.

One thing that bothers me too is how ugly the protagonists often are. Not only does it put me off the game but it puts me off the whole console - I don't want to see this lady every 5 seconds:

Aloy
 
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Yah it's much easier to just throw some assets together and do as little programming as possible.

Then they can get back to doing their DEI hire stuff like posting on Reddit while the game flops.
They don't even need to create trees/foliage by hand or textures and models they can use speedtree and photogrammetry plus lumen (for 1 click lighting) and nanite (so they don't need to generate LOD by hand), faces are scanned and not made by hand either, animations are made with help of mocap (so at least they need to spend time with devs but) fucking hell it's a mess they don't really do anything and soon mocap will be replaced by AI generated animations so not a single thing will need to be made by human hand maybe except 2d art and music which can still be able to be replaced by AI. :society:

And there are also asset stores
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Disagree. Games will always be just that, games. There are some truly incredible experiences I've played this past years that were had various different goals, mindsets and expectations.
 
All these talented devs who were passionate about games they were making are mostly gone from gaming industry, now you have degenerates.
 
They don't even need to create trees/foliage by hand or textures and models they can use speedtree and photogrammetry plus lumen (for 1 click lighting) and nanite (so they don't need to generate LOD by hand), faces are scanned and not made by hand either, animations are made with help of mocap (so at least they need to spend time with devs but) fucking hell it's a mess they don't really do anything and soon mocap will be replaced by AI generated animations so not a single thing will need to be made by human hand maybe except 2d art and music which can still be able to be replaced by AI. :society:

And there are also asset stores View attachment 1394331

The thing is... the most powerful piece of technology will always be the human brain. So for as long as they're hiring incompetent people I'm not convinced that this technology will ever make up for that.
 
It happens all the time, you rarely see games with real physics or npc that have day/night cycle with it's own life and goals. View attachment 1394237

Lazy worthless millennial/zoomer devs only become devs to get a paycheck they are not passionate about games or gaming they only care about tech that will make their job position even easier, even tho they don't do much.

Just look at the FF7 Rebirth that shitty game requires 2x stronger gpu than Remake and don't even work on gpus like rx 5700 xt without mesh shaders despite them being able to run it at 60fps, they got so lazy that they don't want to waste a single day to implement standard shader generation.

For Wukong you are pretty much forced to use frame gen if you want to have stable 60fps or buy a new gpu :society:Honestly with modern shitty coded games gpu like RTX 4070 ti super is a minimum GPU to have relatively good experience (4070 ti would be enough in perfect world but since it has only 12gb of vram it's just worthless), you also need to buy a new screen like 4k to not see a smear of DLSS, all those games are unplayable at 1080p
Dude im Rocking worlds with my GTX 1060 6GB , truly insane spectacle here..
 
Dude im Rocking worlds with my GTX 1060 6GB , truly insane spectacle here..

I mean, classically even if you just set graphics to medium it's not THAT bad. Certainly once you're in high territory or above it's pretty good.

It depends how much you care about graphics.

Even if you do nothing and just slowly upgrade so you can keep running games at medium to high, the graphics will slowly improve over time.

What seems to get worse though is... pretty much everything else. In many games anyway, again because they don't seem to want to hire talented people.
 
A lot of modern games I think are just the result of some DEI hires throwing assets together in an engine like Unreal and calling it a day.
:yes:
 
Just look into the forced raytracing controversy, it's lazy troon devs ticking a checkbox cos it's easier
 
I mean, classically even if you just set graphics to medium it's not THAT bad. Certainly once you're in high territory or above it's pretty good.

It depends how much you care about graphics.

Even if you do nothing and just slowly upgrade so you can keep running games at medium to high, the graphics will slowly improve over time.

What seems to get worse though is... pretty much everything else. In many games anyway, again because they don't seem to want to hire talented people.
All the games are maxxed out, and on WinXP i even use extra settings in the nVidia 3D panel for a couple of games.
Plus, the most important thing in a GPU or CPU for me is the color palette /filter that comes with it.
I've noticed these differences from one part to another.

My experiences with GTX 660/dual core E8600 (WinXP) , GTX 960/i7 4790 (WinXP) , and the latter with Win10 1709 x64 Home Edition.

These GPUs are all very colorful and rich in color. And likewise maxx out the capabilities of all the games i Play in the aformentioned operating systems.

Some of the RTX series look dull in comparison since i've watched several video Vs. what cards (for Forza Horizon 4, FFVII for example) despite having more muscle power.

Now there was one that had a good palette, and it was the RTX 3090 Ti.
 
All the games are maxxed out, and on WinXP i even use extra settings in the nVidia 3D panel for a couple of games.
Plus, the most important thing in a GPU or CPU for me is the color palette /filter that comes with it.
I've noticed these differences from one part to another.

My experiences with GTX 660/dual core E8600 (WinXP) , GTX 960/i7 4790 (WinXP) , and the latter with Win10 1709 x64 Home Edition.

These GPUs are all very colorful and rich in color. And likewise maxx out the capabilities of all the games i Play in the aformentioned operating systems.

Some of the RTX series look dull in comparison since i've watched several video Vs. what cards (for Forza Horizon 4, FFVII for example) despite having more muscle power.

Now there was one that had a good palette, and it was the RTX 3090 Ti.

Hm, you think more about the details of the various cards than me I think! But that's good you've found cards that work for you and good that you can max out games!

I have a habit of not putting games on ultra... I dunno... I just feel like it seems safer to go for "Very High" even if I technically could do Ultra. Sometimes by taking that edge off of it you can smooth out performance I think. It probably depends heavily on the developers of that particular game.

Just look into the forced raytracing controversy, it's lazy troon devs ticking a checkbox cos it's easier

Oh on some games you can't even turn it off? >.<

JFL it feels like a fake game you'd see on a TV show, also the doom glory kill mechanic at the beginning. Cancerous, KF1 is one of my favourite fps' too

lol yeah it does look shockingly bad.
 
Hm, you think more about the details of the various cards than me I think! But that's good you've found cards that work for you and good that you can max out games!

I have a habit of not putting games on ultra... I dunno... I just feel like it seems safer to go for "Very High" even if I technically could do Ultra. Sometimes by taking that edge off of it you can smooth out performance I think. It probably depends heavily on the developers of that particular game.



Oh on some games you can't even turn it off? >.<



lol yeah it does look shockingly bad.
Look:

 
Videogames are becoming more about graphics rather than gameplay

Gameplay will always be superior to graphics

The one case where personality matters more than looks
 


What are you trying to convince me of? lol

Videogames are becoming more about graphics rather than gameplay

Gameplay will always be superior to graphics

The one case where personality matters more than looks

Yeah people love graphics for sure.

I do like the idea of being able to play the latest games but mostly for new content and ideas, not for fancy visuals.
 
What are you trying to convince me of? lol



Yeah people love graphics for sure.

I do like the idea of being able to play the latest games but mostly for new content and ideas, not for fancy visuals.
How much was Lost. including Peak internet without normgroids.
 
How much was Lost. including Peak internet without normgroids.

I'm old enough to remember it too :)

It was a good time. More freedom... everything was... simpler but better.

These days... smartphones are nice and some modern tech is too, but we've lost so much too I agree. Thing don't always only get better, even within the tech world.
 
I'm old enough to remember it too :)

It was a good time. More freedom... everything was... simpler but better.

These days... smartphones are nice and some modern tech is too, but we've lost so much too I agree. Thing don't always only get better, even within the tech world.
i wouldnt mind trading the smartphone for the old internet imo it'd be an upgrade FOR SURE.
 
What things do you miss the most?
When megaupload was still up, lots of anime websites scathered across the web in a much wider fansub variety, which are no longer active because megaupload was the main archive for these small anime hosting sites.
It was much easier to search stuff on browsing engines, youtube wasnt owned by jewgle yet, torrents were more fluent and there was less anti-torrent fed groupies hunting down stuff for copyright. Archive.org is one of the last domains that resemble the old internet, and has loads of dumps full of games.
Furthermore, there was no such thing called an APP. We called it Programs.
The modding scene didnt get compromised by normies. (mainly nfs games where im coming from)

Carmageddon and Re-Volt remain uncucked.

Oh and Ebay wasnt a scalping monster that it Became.
 
When megaupload was still up, lots of anime websites scathered across the web in a much wider fansub variety, which are no longer active because megaupload was the main archive for these small anime hosting sites.
It was much easier to search stuff on browsing engines, youtube wasnt owned by jewgle yet, torrents were more fluent and there was less anti-torrent fed groupies hunting down stuff for copyright. Archive.org is one of the last domains that resemble the old internet, and has loads of dumps full of games.
Furthermore, there was no such thing called an APP. We called it Programs.
The modding scene didnt get compromised by normies. (mainly nfs games where im coming from)

Carmageddon and Re-Volt remain uncucked.

Oh and Ebay wasnt a scalping monster that it Became.

Yeah the web was way more free in so many ways. I miss that a lot too. And games were definitely better.

Also there were lots of consoles to choose from, and Windows was still tolerable, lol

I do think many things have improved, but it all feels like a real minefield these days whereas before it felt much more relaxed and free.
 
It's almost insane how low quality these games are when there's 10 times the amount of people working on most triple A ones. Then you realize how popular video games have become compared to 15 years ago. Once it becomes popular business suit wearing men come in and suck away all the fun and passion

Most of those people are needed to make sure that the game isn't offensive though.
 

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