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It isn't uncommon to die a virgin

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Don't be fooled by these 80 years of relative peacetime.

Before the second world war, millions of young eligible cum filled men were brutally slaughtered on the battlefield, most of them as chess pieces for literal inbreeding retards. Think about this shit.

Imagine leaving your mother at the young age of 16. You march 200 miles to some unknown country. Your feet have tremendous blisters due to you likely not having shoes, and if you do, they are made out of thin leather. You've lost 10 lbs of mostly muscle, due to you only eating rice or grain, meat is a delicacy. You cope with the excitement of the upcoming battle. You are ready to slay your enemies with your sword, just like the heroes in the stories that your heard around the campfire.

5 Days Later, you finally spot the enemy, gathered across the field. They dwarf your force 5 to 1. However, the Prince, who you've never even seen, traveling with your force decides to fight. Your commanders order a charge. You are in the front ranks. You run as fast as possible towards the enemy lines, ready to prove your worth.

You lose consciousness. And eventually leave this world. What happened? You were struck in the face by a bolt from a crossbow.

Your mother back at home never, ever sees you again. The only information she gets is 6 years later after a priest mentions the Prince who left with her son had been released via prisoner exchange. He and his guard were the only survivors of their crusade. The copes by praying that you are still alive in a foreign country. But in reality, you body simply rotted in an open field that is now being used to grow grain.

THIS WAS THE FATE OF MOST YOUNG MEN.



Take a look at the totals at some of the deadliest battles.

Mongol Sacking of Baghdad, 1258 (~2 million casualties)

Brusilov, 1916 (1.6 million casualties)

Dnieper, 1943 (1.58 million casualties)

German Spring offensive, 1918 (1.55 milion casualties)

Ichi-Go, 1944 (1.3 million casualties)


Second Congo War -(5 Million casualties)


 
Yeah, but doesn't make me feel any better.
 
Just don't die in battle theory
 
Yeah, but doesn't make me feel any better.
just walk into gunfire bro
just get your head smashed open by a dull sword bro
just get your throat sliced open by a random arrow bro
 
Dying a virgin isn't a problem tbh, none of us are going to give a shit when we're dead. It's living like this which is the issue.
 
Low IQ thread, they didnt live until they were 80 as a virgin and then died of natural causes.
 
just walk into gunfire bro
just get your head smashed open by a dull sword bro
just get your throat sliced open by a random arrow bro
Yeah, and chad is still fucking prime jb. And I'm still pissed
 
The average age of a conscript in WWII was 24, probably married and had a family. In the 1200’s, the average age of marriage was 12 for women and 14 for boys.
 
The average age of a conscript in WWII was 24, probably married and had a family. In the 1200’s, the average age of marriage was 12 for women and 14 for boys.
those are just averages though, still thousands of kids below 21 getting slaughtered like animals.
 
those are just averages though, still thousands of kids below 21 getting slaughtered like animals.
I’d rather get slaughtered at 18 than die from natural causes at 80 as a virgin.
 
Men are cheap commodity, both today and historically. Women always had it easy.
 
yeah in those times millions or maybe thousans of men died virgin.
 
You can't compare times that long ago to today. These "80 years of relative peacetime" have seen society progress exponentially.
 
Dying virgin is nothing new as it has been going on for very long time and it is not just limited to humans.
 
just walk into gunfire bro
just get your head smashed open by a dull sword bro
just get your throat sliced open by a random arrow bro
Brutal. Men are just worthless garbage unless they are goodlooking/rich/famous.
 
Imagine leaving your mother at the young age of 16. You march 200 miles to some unknown country. Your feet have tremendous blisters due to you likely not having shoes, and if you do, they are made out of thin leather. You've lost 10 lbs of mostly muscle, due to you only eating rice or grain, meat is a delicacy. You cope with the excitement of the upcoming battle. You are ready to slay your enemies with your sword, just like the heroes in the stories that your heard around the campfire.

5 Days Later, you finally spot the enemy, gathered across the field. They dwarf your force 5 to 1. However, the Prince, who you've never even seen, traveling with your force decides to fight. Your commanders order a charge. You are in the front ranks. You run as fast as possible towards the enemy lines, ready to prove your worth.

You lose consciousness. And eventually leave this world. What happened? You were struck in the face by a bolt from a crossbow.

Your mother back at home never, ever sees you again. The only information she gets is 6 years later after a priest mentions the Prince who left with her son had been released via prisoner exchange. He and his guard were the only survivors of their crusade. The copes by praying that you are still alive in a foreign country. But in reality, you body simply rotted in an open field that is now being used to grow grain.

THIS WAS THE FATE OF MOST YOUNG MEN.
I like this a lot. I'll translate to a modern setting set in the US circa 10 years from now.

You leave your apartment after calling your mother to tell her goodnight. You have spent the whole day wageslaving and have gotten back from destroying your computer hard drives. You get into a friend's car and you spend the next 12 hours cramped in a small space with him and two other mates, only stopping for some food and to use the restroom. You hear about the an uprising occurring a few states away on the radio. 5000 men dead, females most affected the announcer reads. Finally, you stop at a small motel and each of you pair off and share a shitty bed. You have your final dreams. You wake up the next morning anxious and afraid. Your last meal is a McDonald's breakfast sandwich with orange juice. Before leaving, you step aside from the group and make a last call to your mother to her you love her. It goes to voicemail. Each member of your team takes a hammer and smashes their cellphones and dumps them into a storm drain. Your team drives to a few miles outside the exclusion zone. You cannot get past the national guard checkpoint further up the road. In the distance you hear jets, helicopters and explosions, fires illuminating the sky with an reddish orange glow. It is 5:30 in the morning, 58 degrees Fahrenheit and still dewy. One of your team members pulls out a lighter and you each burn your social security cards, drivers licenses, credit cards and any family photos you have. This is done to prevent identification in case of capture. The ashes are scattered throughout the area. All you have is $100 in cash, a mixture of singles, fives, and tens.

You pull your gear out of the back of the car and you all put on whatever gear each of you have brought. You grab your rifle and don your camouflage, vest and balaclava. Your team then makes its way deep into the woods. Your heart is racing harder than it ever has as you make your way through the woods, careful not to cause too much noise. You and your team come across a clearing a few hundred years wide. You must cross it in order to continue your journey. You each decide to low crawl 200 yards, the morning sun just barely peaking past the tops of the trees in front of you. You each make it and continue hiking to your destination. You are now 2 miles away from the main action.

You see a sudden flash for a microsecond and die instantly. A drone 30000 ft above you watched you on thermal from the moment you crossed the clearing. It launched a hellfire missile at your team. You didn't hear it because it moved a twice the speed of sound.

Your mother calls you back shortly. She leaves a message to have a good camping trip and to be careful with the violence spreading around the country. Your body is never recovered and your exact fate is never known by her.

This, or something similar to it, is the future of many, many men in the west. And its still better than living as a incel with shit copes for 80 years.
 
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Men are cheap commodity, both today and historically. Women always had it easy.

Life as a man really is insignificant back then and even more so today.
 
You see a sudden flash for a microsecond and die instantly. A drone 30000 ft above you watched you on thermal from the moment you crossed the clearing. It launched a hellfire missile at your team. You didn't hear it because it moved a twice the speed of sound.

That's pretty much what WW1 was like; men told to charge an open field against fucking machine guns. As a general rule (pun) any battle's outcome can be accurately predicted if data from both sides was available. This is basically the "democratic peace theory" where if there's freedom of information, people won't be conned into low-probability of survival scenarios.
 
That's pretty much what WW1 was like; men told to charge an open field against fucking machine guns. As a general rule (pun) any battle's outcome can be accurately predicted if data from both sides was available. This is basically the "democratic peace theory" where if there's freedom of information, people won't be conned into low-probability of survival scenarios.
Low probability of survival scenarios hold little weight if the people going into them were just going to rope anyways. That's why inceldom is a major problem. It makes these kinds of life or death decisions less meaningful. Is it better to die in a war for something you believe in (even if you are guarenteed to die), or to live rotting away alone and to die of a heart attack or stroke? I feel most would choose the former. Its a choice between life in prison or death penalty. Both options are shit, but one is faster.
 
tfw when you won't get one shotted by
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Low probability of survival scenarios hold little weight if the people going into them were just going to rope anyways. That's why inceldom is a major problem. It makes these kinds of life or death decisions less meaningful. Is it better to die in a war for something you believe in (even if you are guarenteed to die), or to live rotting away alone and to die of a heart attack or stroke? I feel most would choose the former. Its a choice between life in prison or death penalty. Both options are shit, but one is faster.

Good points, it'd just add that given that a strong plurality of Westerns are overweight, and half of those are obese, it appears that rotting away to die of heath related causes seems to be a popular choice, even if chosen subconsciously.
 
I sometimes feel that if I was born in ancient greece I could really be a great warrior and make a name for myself. Modern times robbed me of that. I wish fighting with swords and spears came back.
 
Good points, it'd just add that given that a strong plurality of Westerns are overweight, and half of those are obese, it appears that rotting away to die of heath related causes seems to be a popular choice, even if chosen subconsciously.
Its easier for sure. But you don't need very many people to affect a society. Butterfly effect and all. But if things get bad enough to where there is open warfare and such, it doesn't take much physical ability to drive a truck loaded with explosives into a target and detonate it. A human guidance system doesn't need to be athletic or fit.
 
jfl if you compare virginity or not having a gf with a form of torture, when it's nothing of the sort.
Of course not having a desire fulfilled sucks, but consider for a second what is the object of your desire and it won't suck that much. That or beat yourself up for not having what you want so much.
As a virgin who has never had a gf or sex, my life would still be considered as a much better life, overall, when you compare it with the thousands of wageslaves with wives and kids. Unless you value a sex life, wife, and kids as the most important things in life, that is.
These things are debatable and you won't find a consensus because the answer to "what is a good life?" varies from person to person.
In my opinion, a good life can only be attainable by a person who follows ethical principles.
 
casualties dont always equal death but yes men have always died for retarded causes. But something in me wants to see another world war so I can see soy boys drafted and sent away
 
Don't be fooled by these 80 years of relative peacetime.

Before the second world war, millions of young eligible cum filled men were brutally slaughtered on the battlefield, most of them as chess pieces for literal inbreeding retards. Think about this shit.

Imagine leaving your mother at the young age of 16. You march 200 miles to some unknown country. Your feet have tremendous blisters due to you likely not having shoes, and if you do, they are made out of thin leather. You've lost 10 lbs of mostly muscle, due to you only eating rice or grain, meat is a delicacy. You cope with the excitement of the upcoming battle. You are ready to slay your enemies with your sword, just like the heroes in the stories that your heard around the campfire.

5 Days Later, you finally spot the enemy, gathered across the field. They dwarf your force 5 to 1. However, the Prince, who you've never even seen, traveling with your force decides to fight. Your commanders order a charge. You are in the front ranks. You run as fast as possible towards the enemy lines, ready to prove your worth.

You lose consciousness. And eventually leave this world. What happened? You were struck in the face by a bolt from a crossbow.

Your mother back at home never, ever sees you again. The only information she gets is 6 years later after a priest mentions the Prince who left with her son had been released via prisoner exchange. He and his guard were the only survivors of their crusade. The copes by praying that you are still alive in a foreign country. But in reality, you body simply rotted in an open field that is now being used to grow grain.

THIS WAS THE FATE OF MOST YOUNG MEN.



Take a look at the totals at some of the deadliest battles.

Mongol Sacking of Baghdad, 1258 (~2 million casualties)

Brusilov, 1916 (1.6 million casualties)

Dnieper, 1943 (1.58 million casualties)

German Spring offensive, 1918 (1.55 milion casualties)

Ichi-Go, 1944 (1.3 million casualties)


Second Congo War -(5 Million casualties)




On a serious note, I have often compared our experiences to those poor youngcels and thought ourselves very lucky.

We are only unlucky relative to society as it is and the normie experience.
 
Yeah but most men died young so less years spent having to suffer. Tbh would prefer that
 
I like this a lot. I'll translate to a modern setting set in the US circa 10 years from now.

You leave your apartment after calling your mother to tell her goodnight. You have spent the whole day wageslaving and have gotten back from destroying your computer hard drives. You get into a friend's car and you spend the next 12 hours cramped in a small space with him and two other mates, only stopping for some food and to use the restroom. You hear about the an uprising occurring a few states away on the radio. 5000 men dead, females most affected the announcer reads. Finally, you stop at a small motel and each of you pair off and share a shitty bed. You have your final dreams. You wake up the next morning anxious and afraid. Your last meal is a McDonald's breakfast sandwich with orange juice. Before leaving, you step aside from the group and make a last call to your mother to her you love her. It goes to voicemail. Each member of your team takes a hammer and smashes their cellphones and dumps them into a storm drain. Your team drives to a few miles outside the exclusion zone. You cannot get past the national guard checkpoint further up the road. In the distance you hear jets, helicopters and explosions, fires illuminating the sky with an reddish orange glow. It is 5:30 in the morning, 58 degrees Fahrenheit and still dewy. One of your team members pulls out a lighter and you each burn your social security cards, drivers licenses, credit cards and any family photos you have. This is done to prevent identification in case of capture. The ashes are scattered throughout the area. All you have is $100 in cash, a mixture of singles, fives, and tens.

You pull your gear out of the back of the car and you all put on whatever gear each of you have brought. You grab your rifle and don your camouflage, vest and balaclava. Your team then makes its way deep into the woods. Your heart is racing harder than it ever has as you make your way through the woods, careful not to cause too much noise. You and your team come across a clearing a few hundred years wide. You must cross it in order to continue your journey. You each decide to low crawl 200 yards, the morning sun just barely peaking past the tops of the trees in front of you. You each make it and continue hiking to your destination. You are now 2 miles away from the main action.

You see a sudden flash for a microsecond and die instantly. A drone 30000 ft above you watched you on thermal from the moment you crossed the clearing. It launched a hellfire missile at your team. You didn't hear it because it moved a twice the speed of sound.

Your mother calls you back shortly. She leaves a message to have a good camping trip and to be careful with the violence spreading around the country. Your body is never recovered and your exact fate is never known by her.

This, or something similar to it, is the future of many, many men in the west. And its still better than living as a incel with shit copes for 80 years.
sounds about right, good writeup
 
Yeah but at least they died honorably. They didn't slowly rot away in their mother's basement while everyone else was having fun outside, which is how most men of my generation will die.
 
True, but at least they died. They didn't have to live several decades being a miserable virgin trash
 
That's pretty much what WW1 was like; men told to charge an open field against fucking machine guns. As a general rule (pun) any battle's outcome can be accurately predicted if data from both sides was available. This is basically the "democratic peace theory" where if there's freedom of information, people won't be conned into low-probability of survival scenarios.
Niggaread

a good life can only be attainable by a person who follows ethical principles.
Fishing rod Shake3
 
jfl if you compare virginity or not having a gf with a form of torture, when it's nothing of the sort.
Of course not having a desire fulfilled sucks, but consider for a second what is the object of your desire and it won't suck that much. That or beat yourself up for not having what you want so much.
As a virgin who has never had a gf or sex, my life would still be considered as a much better life, overall, when you compare it with the thousands of wageslaves with wives and kids. Unless you value a sex life, wife, and kids as the most important things in life, that is.
These things are debatable and you won't find a consensus because the answer to "what is a good life?" varies from person to person.
In my opinion, a good life can only be attainable by a person who follows ethical principles.

This quote above me is cope
 
How is cope or cucked saying what is demonstrable in objective reality, that is, truth? Prove me that you don't need ethics to live a good life.
What you're saying just sounds like reverse sour grapes tbh. I mean if you can still enjoy life despite all of the incessant bullshit we face then I envy that in a way but I just can't.
 
What you're saying just sounds like reverse sour grapes tbh. I mean if you can still enjoy life despite all of the incessant bullshit we face then I envy that in a way but I just can't.
I understand your point and I know it sounds a bit like sour grapes.

What if instead of a sex life, wife and kids, we had discussed the value and importance of money and its relation to a good life. You'd certainly agree that money is important, but would you say I'm coping if I wrote that you still can have a good life without being rich or having big amounts of money? That having a moderate or average income and a good life aren't mutually exclusive?

The same way, I know it's possible to have a good life without being married to a wife, or having kids, and even without having experienced sex. There's nothing that suggests me that I can only attain happiness through those things only or that human life's is about doing those things so.
It's gonna sound like cope because I posted it in an incel forum or because I am a virgin, but that doesn't make it less true or false.
 
Those are indeed good points and I do agree with most of it. As an incel you have to strive to obtain things separate of society's standards(i.e. sex and family life) if you want to get through the dread of it because those standards aren't necessarily the be all and end all(it kinda is though when looking at humanity itself). More money would definitely increase the quality of my life alot but I'll never be truly content with missing out and continuing to be deprived of what is considered basic human needs that normies take for granted.
 
Is going to war for some rich jew the ultimate cuckoldry? I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than fighting and giving your life for some rich fuck.
 

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