Serious Is there any point roiding if you have an ugly face and tiny dick ?

[Deleted member 13060]

If I would still be tiny dicked and ugly then what's the point ? I mean OK I'm a complete skinnyfat framecel, but what difference would it make if I wasn't ? At the end of the day dick and face will always be the most important things and what women sexually care about the most, everything else is just secondary that complements the other two, and surely just COPE if you have neither.

Everyone tells me I should roid, but a) I don't want to inject myself, b) the various health risks, c) whatever money it would cost, d) difficult for me to get anyway due to being reliant on my Mum's credit card and roid suppliers not taking CC and e) not sure it would even be worth it anyway.

 

[Zod]

Why are you asking if you already know the answer..

 

[starystulejarz]

Zero point unless you want to be less depressed since higher testosterone levels boosts your mood, there are no cure for low t prenatal testosterone so it won't change your SMV at all.

 

[Deleted member 13060]

Why are you asking if you already know the answer..

Just looking for confirmation, because people on PSL (especially Lookism) seem to think that roiding would ascend me.

 

[Zod]

Just looking for confirmation, because people on PSL (especially Lookism) seem to think that roiding would ascend me.

In your case it would change nothing except give you health problems. It is completely and utterly pointless and low IQ

 

[Deleted member 13060]

Zero point unless you want to be less depressed since higher testosterone levels boosts your mood, there are no cure for low t prenatal testosterone so it won't change your SMV at all.

That is another thing - I am NOT technically low T (over 700 ng/dl in an NHS blood test a few months ago, this surely isn't bad for a 36 year old), just high estrogen (226.16 pmol/l, normal is <180).

 

[Cheezecel]

Roiding makes only sense if you maxxed out your gym stats already. Just go to the gym normally and make your noob gains.
I'm not telling you not to roid just that it wouldn't make much sense if you haven't worked out a lot before.
You don't even have to go to the gym, just get some weights and start with those and work your way up adding more and more weight. Once you hit a limit you can start roiding but at that point you will see if people react to you differently and whether its worth it or not.

One reason for high estrogen is having a high body fat percentage , so you could try cutting if your BF is high.


A more viable alternative to quick cutting is DNP , however that stuff can and will kill you more quickly than steroids.


And yes, working out and adding muscle was worth it for me. Because I actively confront people if I feel they wronged me and am ready to take a fight whereas before i would pussy out and passively avoid all kind of confrontations. I'm still an autist and introvert though and my ugliness will never fade.

 

[RedKings]

reliant on my Mum's credit card

i know your confessing but do better

 

[TheGoodGuy]

I would say yes but again it´s not that cut and dry, lets assume you have a big ripped body like Zyzz then it would raise your PSL up a lot! but depends on the face if you look like a 3/10 face wise I really don´t think there is a lot of hope but if you have a 4-5/10 face and a 10/10 body then yes you can even slay.

Of course every time the topic of gymcelling is brought up on this forum everyone shoots it down immediately because they are gymcelling themselves to no avail but most the gymcellers on this forum have musclemass but too high fat percentages and then they will claim bodybuilding doesn´t work even though they walk around with 25% body fat.

 

[Ellsworth]

I’ll be starting trt in 2 days. I can’t answer your question without seeing your face, and I don’t want to see your dick.

For me I have an ugly face and small dick, but neither are extreme ugly or small. Also my face will improve once I lose some of this extra fat. Another personal thing for me is that even if it doesn’t help me ascend, it really should help my physical and mental health. Supposedly it improves a lot of things, we shall see.

 

[WizardofSoda]

Be sort of disappointing if you were a woman and there is this buff, ultra high testosterone guy who you are going to have sex with. And expecting to get railed. Then he pulls down his pants showing this baby penis.

 

[vic624]

That is another thing - I am NOT technically low T (over 700 ng/dl in an NHS blood test a few months ago, this surely isn't bad for a 36 year old), just high estrogen (226.16 pmol/l, normal is <180).

Just take an anti-e if you're afraid of getting "softer" as you age. These studies explain how anti-estrogen meds can make for good supplements on their own.

Aromatase inhibitors in men: effects and therapeutic options

Aromatase inhibitors effectively delay epiphysial maturation in boys and improve testosterone levels in adult men Therefore, aromatase inhibitors may be used to increase adult height in boys with gonadotropin-independent precocious puberty, idiopathic ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Off label therapies for testosterone replacement

The incidence of hypogonadism has been steadily increasing over the last few years. Exogenous testosterone has been the standard treatment for hypogonadal men, but is associated with suppression of spermatogenesis as well as other possible adverse effects. ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

One of the studies recommends clomid, but for me personally that medication makes be depressed. A lot of gymcels cite that side effect.

Anastrozole is the peak anti-e-as-a-supplement medication. It's strong though, so you really just need 1/4 tab (0.25mg) e3d.

 

[Deleted member 13060]

Be sort of disappointing if you were a woman and there is this buff, ultra high testosterone guy who you are going to have sex with. And expecting to get railed. Then he pulls down his pants showing this baby penis.

This tbh

Just take an anti-e if you're afraid of getting "softer" as you age. These studies explain how anti-estrogen meds can make for good supplements on their own.

Aromatase inhibitors in men: effects and therapeutic options

Aromatase inhibitors effectively delay epiphysial maturation in boys and improve testosterone levels in adult men Therefore, aromatase inhibitors may be used to increase adult height in boys with gonadotropin-independent precocious puberty, idiopathic ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Off label therapies for testosterone replacement

The incidence of hypogonadism has been steadily increasing over the last few years. Exogenous testosterone has been the standard treatment for hypogonadal men, but is associated with suppression of spermatogenesis as well as other possible adverse effects. ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

One of the studies recommends clomid, but for me personally that medication makes be depressed. A lot of gymcels cite that side effect.

Anastrozole is the peak anti-e-as-a-supplement medication. It's strong though, so you really just need 1/4 tab (0.25mg) e3d.

Am hoping for aromasin to be delivered soon, or the doctor I'm seeing tomorrow giving me AI's for free. Not holding out too much hope for this though (fucking useless NHS), so am hoping the paid-for stuff (providing they actually deliver it lol) will be legit stuff and not BS, and will help me.

 

[ionlycopenow]

If you're tall (6'5+) roiding is absolutely going to pay off if you're not prone to losing hair. Anything else is a waste of time though