seeing as one of us have ever even had sex how do we know if its even good. it could be really overrated by the chads and stacy's who are having it. i would assume that no fem good give a better hj than you could give yourself.
Yes it is, tell me why it wouldn't be good if everything in our society revolves around sex?
Next level cope lmfao. Next you'll be asking if it's even real.
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if it is something even a little close to fapping, it must suck after cumming
its definitely g00d
Incoming Blackpill:
Not only is it the best feeling one will ever experience but it has an untold amount of health benefits
Web MD - https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/guide/sex-and-health#1
The Mirror UK https://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/health/21-reasons-you-should-sex-2043200
Summary -
1. Helps Keep Your Immune System Humming
2. Boosts Your Libido
3. Lowers Your Blood Pressure
4. Lowers Heart Attack Risk
5. Counts as exercise
You even deacrease your odds of contracting a common disease e.g a cold
From the mirror - "One study found people who have sex more than once a week have 30% higher levels of IgA than those who abstain."
I could go on, there are far too many
Not only is it the best feeling one will ever experience but it has an untold amount of health benefits
Web MD - https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/guide/sex-and-health#1
The Mirror UK https://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/health/21-reasons-you-should-sex-2043200
Summary -
1. Helps Keep Your Immune System Humming
2. Boosts Your Libido
3. Lowers Your Blood Pressure
4. Lowers Heart Attack Risk
5. Counts as exercise
You even deacrease your odds of contracting a common disease e.g a cold
From the mirror - "One study found people who have sex more than once a week have 30% higher levels of IgA than those who abstain."
I could go on, there are far too many
Yes bro
Copecels.me strikes again
I'd say so. Imagine it for a bit, being intimate with a woman who actually loves you and you love her the same. Imagine the feeling of validation and acceptance, not just acceptance of you into her warm, moist cunt, but also the acceptance into society as "one of us"
Then imagine the life without sex, but you don't have to imagine, no no. You live that life, you wake up alone, greeted only by the birds chirping.
You go to bed alone, saying goodnight only to the moon and stars. Never knowing what it's like to love and be loved the same, all because you lost out on the lottery of life. Now imagine everyone else having what you desire, them hating you simply for being not like them; for being a virgin.
Then imagine the life without sex, but you don't have to imagine, no no. You live that life, you wake up alone, greeted only by the birds chirping.
You go to bed alone, saying goodnight only to the moon and stars. Never knowing what it's like to love and be loved the same, all because you lost out on the lottery of life. Now imagine everyone else having what you desire, them hating you simply for being not like them; for being a virgin.
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Dude what I think a lot of people on this site don't think about is sex would be a lot of WORK. Do you have a big dick? Are you naturally athletic? Can you hold yourself in uncomfortable/awkward positions for up to 20 minutes at a time without your muscles getting tired?
Let's say you have a hot girl. But you're ugly with a shitty body and a 5-5.5" dick. Something like half of all girls can't even orgasm from vaginal penetration to begin with.
So you gotta spend at least 20 minutes kissing her and licking her pussy first to have any hope of her enjoying it. I don't really care about this myself. I think this would probably be fun the first 1-3 times then just a chore. I NEVER jerk off thinking about "kissing" a girl, and the ONLY times I've ever jerked off thinking about going down on a girl have been when my VR porn has that as part of the video.
Then finally she's enjoyed some of it, so you go to PIV. Probably you can't even hold your body up while you try to fuck her and your arms are tired after five minutes. Your dick goes partly limp from anxiety or the positional discomfort. And/or you cum in 5 minutes and she's like "WTF?"
She's got her hands on your body and all you can think is "Jesus Christ my body fat is so subhuman". I wouldn't even want someone touching my body with my body fat where it is.
There is so much more that can go WRONG with sex than right. It's an incredible amount of pressure that most of us aren't physically or mentally equipped for. You will be judged compared to the jock 6'+ Chad she fucked in first year university during frosh week (and you aren't going to win that competition).
I'm not saying I wouldn't like to have opportunities to fuck girls. But I would spend most of the time being self conscious about my body, my mediocre dick, and feeling like I'm probably doing everything wrong and failing. I'm pretty certain I wouldn't stay hard and/or I'd jizz in 5 minutes and be a disappointment either way.
I'm just saying I don't hold this fairy tale version of sex in my mind that many people here do. I think it would mostly be awkward and uncomfortable. And I'd probably feel like a jackass after for being so bad at it.
yes bro its the shit, imagine having a foid that loves you and you're able to go balls deep in her and eat her out like a goddamn cupcake
too bad none of us will ever experience it
too bad none of us will ever experience it
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Well from what I've read, a lot of guys who go to hookers report the exact type of experience I described, and not because of anything wrong with the hooker exactly. Just because they feel awkward, uncomfortable, don't know what to do, and either can't get hard or jizz in 2-5 minutes.
The 5 minute jizz is what happened to Incel Prime if I recall. He didn't even get to PIV. He jizzed on the handjob if I recall correctly then just dashed without paying.
Personally I want the VALIDATION of knowing I can get sex with hot girls. But I don't really want sex strongly until I can get my dick size up a bit and my body fat down to like 12% or so. Otherwise I'm okay to just jerk off. At least that's no pressure and I don't have to feel bad about it.
When/If I get to the point where I really want sex, I'll just pay for it. I have no qualms about that. Lots of normal guys say sex is better with a good hooker anyway because she's less inhibited, gonna be hotter, and there to put on a show for you.
Someone I know had sex, and described it as the best moment of his life. It's obviously not the same for everyone though.
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The other experience I forgot to mention I've read many guys have the first time (whether with a pro or a real girl) is not being able to cum at all due to either the condom or just a decrease in tightness and sensitivity compared to jerking off.
So the most common orgasmic outcomes I've read are:
- Jizz in 2-5 minutes and be a disappointment
- Not be able to get off at all and be a disappointment
I think the odds of it being the "third kind" - where everything goes right and it's great for everyone and you feel good is much smaller. Maybe 10-30%?
If anyone really thinks sex is going to be so incredible and amazing and awesome, save up some money and buy a top tier hooker.
Imagine fucking a girl like this:
https://www.nyelitemodelclub.com/copy-of-all-new-york-escorts-mila
Who is being PAID to act like you are a real stud, sucks your dick like a champ, and rides you like a rodeo bull.
Compared to "getting lucky" from online dating and fucking a fat chick like this:
Who lies there like a dead whale, doesn't even want to touch you, has a fishy vagina (if you can find it under the folds), is all sweaty, and does nothing for you the whole time.
Whichever of those two paths you take, either way I think the outcome is more likely to be disappointing than elating. Unless again, you are perhaps naturally athletic, have a big dick, are secure about your body/appearance, and really just want to fuck.
So the most common orgasmic outcomes I've read are:
- Jizz in 2-5 minutes and be a disappointment
- Not be able to get off at all and be a disappointment
I think the odds of it being the "third kind" - where everything goes right and it's great for everyone and you feel good is much smaller. Maybe 10-30%?
If anyone really thinks sex is going to be so incredible and amazing and awesome, save up some money and buy a top tier hooker.
Imagine fucking a girl like this:
https://www.nyelitemodelclub.com/copy-of-all-new-york-escorts-mila
Who is being PAID to act like you are a real stud, sucks your dick like a champ, and rides you like a rodeo bull.
Compared to "getting lucky" from online dating and fucking a fat chick like this:
Who lies there like a dead whale, doesn't even want to touch you, has a fishy vagina (if you can find it under the folds), is all sweaty, and does nothing for you the whole time.
Whichever of those two paths you take, either way I think the outcome is more likely to be disappointing than elating. Unless again, you are perhaps naturally athletic, have a big dick, are secure about your body/appearance, and really just want to fuck.
20 minutes is not that far fetched. With escorts I've lasted 20 minutes easily without a condom and it's tiring. You get cramps and start sweating, similar to an intense cardio workout. But I agree about not caring too much on performance and just wanting to ascend
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Lastly, imagine how you'll feel the day after you fuck her. Let's say you get ULTRA LUCKY and find a girl who isn't too gross on an online dating site, PLUS she actually likes you! You date her a few times and finally it gets to you together on a couch and you make a move on her. She doesn't reject you. But you suck at kissing, can't get her bra off, have terrible timing, don't know when to do what, and your dick doesn't co-operate.
How are you gonna feel the next day when she ghosts you and this was your only fucking chance for years or more of your life?
Maybe better in some ways. But I don't want to go through that.
Maybe I worry too much but I don't even want to fuck a hooker until I'm sure I can do it well. I've read too many stories.
How are you gonna feel the next day when she ghosts you and this was your only fucking chance for years or more of your life?
Maybe better in some ways. But I don't want to go through that.
Maybe I worry too much but I don't even want to fuck a hooker until I'm sure I can do it well. I've read too many stories.
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I agree, you feel empty afterwards but I'd say it's a good cope for fellow incels that can afford it
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Most guys I've seen that have fucked both tend to say the opposite. That a quality hooker is far more enthusiastic and will give great head plus cycle through different positions, moan, etc and put on a good show for you because you're paying them to.
Average girls are more likely to just lie there like a corpse and do nothing at all. Search "starfish sex"
"This was a term that was coined to describe that during sex some females merely lay there like a starfish – legs apart and arms outspread with no movement or participation. They provide access to their genitals but there's not much else going on for them nor being done for their partner"
This is one of the reasons why many rockstars or guys like Charlie Sheen have fucked hundreds to thousands of hookers in their lives. They can get groupies or club sluts easily. But the hooker will be much hotter on average (if you can afford it which they can), she will put in more work to make you happy, and there's less bullshit/drama associated.
Validation is a separate thing. If you just want quality of sex, I think you're more likely to get it from a top level escort.
Peace of mind is priceless, but I'd recommend gaining some experience with escorts just so what you stated above doesn't occur and it's not cringey and awkward with a potential girl
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I read this book when I was a kid called Kane and Abel by Jeffrey Archer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kane_and_Abel_(novel)
It's essentially about a good looking Chad born into wealth. And an ugly guy born into poverty. Both of them strive to succeed in life, and the book contrasts how they both have to go about it.
The Chad has the natural positive good sexual experiences everyone here wants.
The poor ugly guy gets mocked by the first girl he tries to fuck. So he pays a hooker to fuck him over and over and teach him to up his skills. In every way he has to be more ruthless and cold than the Chad to get the same outcomes.
It's a pretty interesting book in retrospect and pretty blackpilled in that regard. Apparently Jeffrey Archer, the author, used to fuck hookers too.
So yeah, I've actually thought about fucking hookers exactly for that purpose too. Maybe. We'll see.
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Sounds like a good read, I'll check it out thanks. I went to escorts just because I was insecure about my lack of experience as well as my average dick size (5.5 inches). Watching too much porn warped my idea of what is normal and felt compelled to get out of my shell and conquer my fears of performance. 10/10 would recommend seeing an escort, I hate dwelling on the unknown. At least figured out the logistics of sex and that my dick size can work with a girl who's not a size queen.
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Well kudos to you if you can read that book. It was really good. But I haven't read a book in years because the Internet has destroyed my attention span. The best I've done in the past few years was a Stephen King collection of short stories, since I could at least get through one short story at a time.
The Internet and web forums like this have rotted my mind.
Anyway re: hookers:
- How many have you fucked?
- Their place or yours? (I know everyone says never let a hooker come to your place, but I would feel so much more comfortable I think)
- Every worry about getting busted?
- Best/worst experience?
- Any final tips?
Thanks if you can share.
You are over-complicating sex, it isn't that hard.
the act without an emotional connection to someone is like exercising into a loose hole, it's not that great
with an emotional connection it's fun and exciting
source: hookers
with an emotional connection it's fun and exciting
source: hookers
-Over 20 in the span of 3 years
-I've also invited high/middle end escorts over to my place, I prefer the comfort of my own home as well.
-I've never worried too much about getting busted because I tend to pay a higher price for extra security.
-My worst experience was my first time, I couldn't get very hard and I felt extremely awkward and couldn't find the right tempo.
I was too into my own thoughts and couldn't enjoy it very much, but I feel like this is common for people's first time. I also didn't cum and faked an orgasm just to be done with it.
-My advice is to just think of escortcelling as a service and not ponder on your performance too much. And that they are there to accompany your needs so you can suck at it as much as you want and they will still be happy about getting paid.
You will also be surprised how quickly you can find the right rhythm in thrusting and the positions you enjoy within the first few times having sex.
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I have been picked last in sports since I was 10 years old. I have been comparatively terrible at every physical endeavor in my entire life. I am a physically subpar man in almost every parameter, including dick size/function. It is only rational to expect what I described.
If you're physically average or better then probably you have nothing to worry about. But if you're physically average or better you're probably not incel.
Fucking good. That's what I'd like to do.
Did you hire them through escort agencies? Or as independents eg. on Backpage before it was shut down?
What do you think about escort agencies that want to know your personal details like your job etc (ie. they claim for "security" of their women) before they will let you order? Makes me uncomfortable in principle.
Did you ever think of getting a sugar baby for a month or two instead?
The only valid complaint there I saw was dick size incompatibility. Most of what makes sex "bad" in a foid's eyes is out of your control anyway. You could bust out the exact same moves as Chad and she'll think he was better simply because she was mentally more turned on by him, or his dick was bigger, etc. As far as holding yourself up I'm a skinny fuck and when I tried fucking my bed I was able to hold myself up for quite a while, and I can almost guarantee that you're not weaker/skinnier than me.
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That's what I'm talking about mainly. Exact same as playing basketball at 5'7" against a bunch of guys who are 6'6". It's not a fair competition and you won't measure up, even if you somehow learn the same moves and skills.
I've also got some health/injury issues I'm sorting out. That's individual to me. Not generalizable. But I'm just saying I don't think there's any probability sex would ever be some magically positive experience. At best it would be a service a woman is performing for me, either in return for my betabuxing or for my direct payment.
So I'm not gonna romanticize it like everyone else here.
I hire escorts through escort agencies.
I am also uncomfortable with giving them my personal information but I understand the reason why they would request it so I'm okay with it.
Never thought about getting a sugar baby, would rather not have to deal with situations like that
Overrated and Smelly.
I imagine with the gaysex it is unbearably stinking. Probably like eating in port-a-john toilet.
I imagine with the gaysex it is unbearably stinking. Probably like eating in port-a-john toilet.
Society used to revolve around god and as we know it's devoid of any good. So, it's not an absurd question op is asking tbh. Maybe the cultural attraction for sex is a tool of power of those who don't lack sex over those who can't have sex, the same way money is in a way.
And btw at least 50% of incels are merely looking for romance, not sex. So maybe there's an incompatibility between incel's mindset and society's contemporary expectations towards men in general.
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i cant understand how guys could possibly last >1 minute while fucking. jerking off normally takes a couple mins for me, but using my fleshlight which ive used a couple dozen times i nut in 30 secs. are guys out here getting head and fucking girls consistently everyday to get to 2 mins+?
honestly would rather j/o
The only way to last several hours in bed is to have sexual games (head, original positions, roleplay, submission, frustration games, etc ...). The french writer Georges Bataille wrote an essay about Erotism.
He analyzes studies that were made in the 50's, and that showed that the richest or the most outcasted people (=mafia criminals to be more precise) had the longest lasting / higher quality sex in the general population (5 hours straight sex on average). There are several explanations to this : they have on average more time and more money, and they like sophisticated games in general, and so in sex.
They are hedonistic for different reasons : the super rich because, well, they can, the criminals because they know their life expectancy is very low, and thus need to make every single moment profitable and intense (and foids are also naturally attracted to this kind of dangerous deviant guys).
Since they are not frustrated irl, these men can play with their own frustration and avoid jerking off during the whole session until the very end, which leverage the effect of the actual ejaculation after several hours of sexual games, "frustration" play, and seeing a female in constant orgasm. Again, the "frustration" here has nothing to do with the frustration of a virgin, it's a well thought calculated "staged" frustration in order to reach nirvana on the final momentum.
They are also generally high IQ or have a good education, making them more willing to give pleasure to their partner : a woman truly reaching orgasm (not pretending, like most foids do today ...) is an excellent catalyst to long lasting male orgasm. Female orgasms also last longer and can be repeated more close in time, which makes a virtuous circle of reciprocal orgasmic nirvana that can last hours.
But this is a really particular way of life. Tbh I highly doubt more than 1% of world population can afford it (5 hours on average means some can last far more ...). Normie sex has nothing to do with this. If one of these hypersexual males had to do normie sex, they would feel like incels and commit suicide asap.
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nigga what the fuckThe only way to last several hours in bed is to have sexual games (head, original positions, roleplay, submission, frustration games, etc ...). The french writer Georges Bataille wrote an essay about Erotism.
He analyzes studies that were made in the 50's, and that showed that the richest or the most outcasted people (=mafia criminals to be more precise) had the longest lasting / higher quality sex in the general population (5 hours straight sex on average). There are several explanations to this : they have on average more time and more money, and they like sophisticated games in general, and so in sex.
They are hedonistic for different reasons : the super rich because, well, they can, the criminals because they know their life expectancy is very low, and thus need to make every single moment profitable and intense (and foids are also naturally attracted to this kind of dangerous deviant guys).
Since they are not frustrated irl, these men can play with their own frustration and avoid jerking off during the whole session until the very end, which leverage the effect of the actual ejaculation after several hours of sexual games, "frustration" play, and seeing a female in constant orgasm. Again, the "frustration" here has nothing to do with the frustration of a virgin, it's a well thought calculated "staged" frustration in order to reach nirvana on the final momentum.
They are also generally high IQ or have a good education, making them more willing to give pleasure to their partner : a woman truly reaching orgasm (not pretending, like most foids do today ...) is an excellent catalyst to long lasting male orgasm. Female orgasms also last longer and can be repeated more close in time, which makes a virtuous circle of reciprocal orgasmic nirvana that can last hours.
But this is a really particular way of life. Tbh I highly doubt more than 1% of world population can afford it (5 hours on average means some can last far more ...). Normie sex has nothing to do with this. If one of these hypersexual males had to do normie sex, they would feel like incels and commit suicide asap.
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Not really, it’s just like, oh fuck don’t blow load immediately.... then you’re like desperately hanging on for approximately 10 seconds... the girl looks at you like what the fuck. You don’t enjoy anything cus you’re too stressed. Then you blow and suddenly the whole thing feels utterly disgusting but you must stay there
I've fucked a lot of hookers and honestly it's overrated. Sex is only good if u can nut inside RAW
It’s all a conspiracy, it doesn’t exist.
It's actually really good, but not just sex, the whole "thing", like the cuddling, the kissing, getting to know a new person, the way that person smiles at you, it all builds up to vary euphoric expirience and nothing really comes close. It's nothing like going to escorts.
If you can find a trap or guy you can stomach to do it with id reccomend it.
If you can find a trap or guy you can stomach to do it with id reccomend it.
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Only if its with someone you're attracted to and she's attracted to you as well.
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Suifuel right there.
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