Experiment Is Low Testosterone another possible cause for IncelDom?

[AnApparentMyth]

For anyone who has looked into this, could it be another? We know that some people here take TRT and love to boast about it. Especially towards newels
. Like @ethniccel2025 and @incel20.

I haven't gotten mine checked, but does anyone know what could be lowering it? I suspect low protein diets, and to much carbs with added sugar. Carbs aren't the enemy, added sugar and other shit is. I wonder if our isolation and constant domesticating contributes to it. Probably, in some way. I can grow a beard, for what's it worth but that's more genetic then anything. In fact, I feel like this entire conversation is debunked by genetics and models eating like shit but still having those muscles or overall mass if we are talking about masculinity.

 

[AnApparentMyth]

 

[TheGrayWolf]

 

[AnApparentMyth]

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Lol. Nice.

 

[Albertopenheimer]

Normal if u can mesure testo with dick size

 

[TheGrayWolf]

Lol. Nice.

jk hehe (kind of)

It could be for some people. I'm "pretty" sure I have low test., due to how my face looks.
Then again... do so-called pretty-boys have low testosterone?

 

[TheGrayWolf]

However importantly I have to say the probable low test. isn't the reason I'm forever alone. it's my deformed face and height. My dick strangely enough is above the "official average", but this will not help me in any way.

 

[AnApparentMyth]

However importantly I have to say the probable low test. isn't the reason I'm forever alone. it's my deformed face and height. My dick strangely enough is above the "official average", but this will not help me in any way.

Pretty boys probably have more estrogen or feminine features. It's not a negative, but you need to be good looking

I'm sorry that you got the unlucky stick Are your parents also deformed?

 

[incel20]

most men of this generation have low testosterone

I have high testosterone traits and Im athletic, got tested and my shtt is low. but I didnt sleep more than 3hrs for a few weeks so it may be higher if I got it done properly.

microplastics and phytoesteogens are no joke


probably why Im tired 24/7

 

[OwnerOpcell]

For anyone who has looked into this, could it be another? We know that some people here take TRT and love to boast about it. Especially towards newels
. Like @ethniccel2025 and @incel20.

I haven't gotten mine checked, but does anyone know what could be lowering it? I suspect low protein diets, and to much carbs with added sugar. Carbs aren't the enemy, added sugar and other shit is. I wonder if our isolation and constant domesticating contributes to it. Probably, in some way. I can grow a beard, for what's it worth but that's more genetic then anything. In fact, I feel like this entire conversation is debunked by genetics and models eating like shit but still having those muscles or overall mass if we are talking about masculinity.

multi layered combo of things.
did we get enough in the womb? during puberty?
got my suspicions that some of us did not and thus never had the chance to reach our true genetic potential

 

[AnApparentMyth]

most men of this generation have low testosterone

I have high testosterone traits and Im athletic, got tested and my shtt is low. but I didnt sleep more than 3hrs for a few weeks so it may be higher if I got it done properly.

microplastics and phytoesteogens are no joke


probably why Im tired 24/7

So what are signs of it? Like, I can grow a beard and a flock of hair, but isn't that more genetics? Are you talking about high pitched voices and skinny frames?

 

[incel20]

So what are signs of it? Like, I can grow a beard and a flock of hair, but isn't that more genetics? Are you talking about high pitched voices and skinny frames?

you genuinely cant tell if you have low test till you test it. Ive seen guys with high pitched voices with high test

I have deep voice muscular and beard but my test is below average.

your test fluctuates from a lot of things as well. Like stress, depression, sleep, diet, bodyfat %


There are some mma fighters who hopped off gear and have low test lower than pre teens.

I think hgh and dht are more important hormones

Hgh makes you tall
Dht makes your dick big and makes you look and sound masculine

 

[AnApparentMyth]

multi layered combo of things.
did we get enough in the womb? during puberty?
got my suspicions that some of us did not and thus never had the chance to reach our true genetic potential

My mom fed me carby shit while I was in the belly, but didn't smoke, drink, drug, or anything of that sort.

 

[AnApparentMyth]

you genuinely cant tell if you have low test till you test it. Ive seen guys with high pitched voices with high test

I have deep voice muscular and beard but my test is below average.

your test fluctuates from a lot of things as well. Like stress, depression, sleep, diet, bodyfat %

Interesting. Are you on TRT? Why does it matter if you look masculine but have a low T? And, by bf%, do you mean lower or higher, or both?

 

[incel20]

Interesting. Are you on TRT? Why does it matter if you look masculine but have a low T? And, by bf%, do you mean lower or higher, or both?

nah

Ive taken sarms to boost my test and I just got acne and mood swings

Bf% is weird cause if its too low your test crashes and if its too high same thing. Exercise as well in excess lowers test

and stress from working which pretty much every young adult is doing

 

[AnApparentMyth]

nah

Ive taken sarms to boost my test and I just got acne and mood swings

Bf% is weird cause if its too low your test crashes and if its too high same thing. Exercise as well in excess lowers test

and stress from working which pretty much every young adult is doing

Wow, that's fucked. You think it's the world doing this, then? Overall stress and massive gym copes are on the rise, as you may know. What are sarms? What does your diet consist of, If I may ask politely? So, if someone is about 10% bf and looks shredded with muscular mass or whatever, it could be Low T too?

 

[OwnerOpcell]

Wow, that's fucked. You think it's the world doing this, then? Overall stress and massive gym copes are on the rise, as you may know. What are sarms? What does your diet consist of, If I may ask politely? So, if someone is about 10% bf and looks shredded with muscular mass or whatever, it could be Low T too?

sarms
"Selective androgen receptor modulators are a class of drugs that selectively activate the androgen receptor in specific tissues, promoting muscle and bone growth while having less effect on male reproductive tissues like the prostate gland."

 

[AnApparentMyth]

sarms
"Selective androgen receptor modulators are a class of drugs that selectively activate the androgen receptor in specific tissues, promoting muscle and bone growth while having less effect on male reproductive tissues like the prostate gland."

So, sorta like TRT, or HGH?

 

[OwnerOpcell]

So, sorta like TRT, or HGH?

i use them as a booster with trt along with hgh and sermorelin

 

[AnApparentMyth]

i use them as a booster with trt along with hgh and sermorelin

Lucky. In my area it's completely illegal to do those.

 

[PersonalityChad]

No high T for your face

 

[AnApparentMyth]

No high T for your face

It can change your bones, afaik.

 

[XtremeMax]

yes i am low T

 

[AnApparentMyth]

yes i am low T

How has it effected you?

 

[OwnerOpcell]

Lucky. In my area it's completely illegal to do those.

sarms are currently unregulated in the US could change. bought cypionate online think it was cut with a sedative or something but it boosted it. prescription stuff is safer but stricter on purchasing.

 

[AnApparentMyth]

sarms are currently unregulated in the US could change. bought cypionate online think it was cut with a sedative or something but it boosted it. prescription stuff is safer but stricter on purchasing.

Yeah, though I might wait and see how my body turns out later down the line before this. How did it work for you?

 

[XtremeMax]

How has it effected you?

i cant grow facial hair and can barely grow body hair

 

[Ryo_Hazuki]

As far as high T vs low T goes theres:

High T ugly (ogre)
High T attractive (chad)
Low T ugly
Low T attractive (pretty boy)

We can debate which is the best, a prime brad pitt vs a prime chico (latter wins hands down but that's besides the point) but one thing is for certain, high T ugly and low T ugly are both incel.

Personally, my natural phenotype is high T ugly. I got called horse face, made fun of for having a big nose, and was told I looked like a "caveman". Also I had HORRIBLE acne as a teen and started balding when I was around 16 (thankfully hair loss meds saved me) both of which are downstream from high T.

In my case, I would have ended up much better off if I were lower T and had a weaker puberty.

 

[AnApparentMyth]

i cant grow facial hair and can barely grow body hair

Brutal, man. Hope you can at least feel okay bro

 

[OwnerOpcell]

Yeah, though I might wait and see how my body turns out later down the line before this. How did it work for you?

very well no complaints or bad effects
total was at 1853 when tested a month ago
free was over 300
estradiol was elevated working on nuking it

 

[AnApparentMyth]

As far as high T vs low T goes theres:

High T ugly (ogre)
High T attractive (chad)
Low T ugly
Low T attractive (pretty boy)

We can debate which is the best, a prime brad pitt vs a prime chico (latter wins hands down but that's besides the point) but one thing is for certain, high T ugly and low T ugly are both incel.

Personally, my natural phenotype is high T ugly. I got called horse face, made fun of for having a big nose, and was told I looked like a "caveman". Also I had HORRIBLE acne as a teen and started balding when I was around 16 (thankfully hair loss meds saved me) both of which are downstream from high T.

In my case, I would have ended up much better off if I were lower T and had a weaker puberty.

I see. So it's a quadruple edged sword. I think I got mixed. Because, I have a big as hell nose, and acne. Luckily I haven't started balding so it can't be to high.

 

[AnApparentMyth]

very well no complaints or bad effects
total was at 1853 when tested a month ago
free was over 300
estradiol was elevated working on nuking it

What are the benefits? So far?

 

[TheGrayWolf]

Pretty boys probably have more estrogen or feminine features. It's not a negative, but you need to be good looking

Good point. I have a strange head and deformed face and kind of feminine look (people sometimes call me miss) due to quite a few missing facial bones. I think if a woman would ever see my dick (16cm bp, good girth, which is alright ig) she'd be surprised

I'm sorry that you got the unlucky stick Are your parents also deformed?

Thanks for the sympathy boyo. Funnily enough they are not and neither is my sister. Paediatricians predicted I'll be anywhere between 1.78-1.85m (around 5'11-6 feet) tall because my dad is almost 1.90 and my mom is taller than me. I was a good looking child up until age 11 or so but then something mysterious/unknown happened (maybe an unknown mutation, we don't know), my head and face grew very strangely or wrong in some places.

I'm almost 30 so ig it's over either way. I get lots of stares, funny looks, sniggers from random strangers etc.

 

[AnApparentMyth]

Good point. I have a strange head and deformed face and kind of feminine look (people sometimes call me miss) due to quite a few missing facial bones. I think if a woman would ever see my dick (16cm bp, good girth, which is alright ig) she'd be surprised


Thanks for the sympathy boyo. Funnily enough they are not and neither is my sister. Paediatricians predicted I'll be anywhere between 1.78-1.85m (around 5'11-6 feet) tall because my dad is almost 1.90 and my mom is taller than me. I was a good looking child up until age 11 or so but then something mysterious/unknown happened (maybe an unknown mutation, we don't know), my head and face grew very strangely or wrong in some places.

I'm almost 30 so ig it's over either way. I get lots of stares, funny looks, sniggers from random strangers etc.

That sucks. Especially in public and knowing you were once better

At least the dick pill didn't hit you

How was your highschool years?

 

[TheGrayWolf]

That sucks. Especially in public and knowing you were once better

Yup especially as a toddler, I'm not kidding or bragging but if things didn't go wrong...I'd probably be a chad-lite or chad now... and my "ex-gf" would be one (or both) of the two pretty blondes that were in my school but not in my grade.

At least the dick pill didn't hit you

Yeah. I have phimosis but I won't get that fixed (even not with steroid cremes), there's no point.

How was your highschool years?

Oh hs, quite bad tbh. People didn't punch me or anything but they did make memes with my school picture and I often overheard shit "looks like a monster" etc.

I spent lunches or "free hours" (don't remember how they were called) either in the toilet stalls, in an empty computer room or rarely, in a small study room with other people. I had a "kind-of" friend in the last month of hs but we never stayed in touch. But overall it was lonely and shitty.

 

[OwnerOpcell]

What are the benefits? So far?

less depressed more energetic, faster muscle growth. took me out of that rot state where i didn't much care i just was. gives me the drive to improve other things.
still have problems bringing me down but hopefully weight loss/muscle gain will improve some of those.

 

[kcarrots]

I can’t grow a beard and look kinda feminine, I’m sure It’s something with that

 

[AnApparentMyth]

Yup especially as a toddler, I'm not kidding or bragging but if things didn't go wrong...I'd probably be a chad-lite or chad now... and my "ex-gf" would be one (or both) of the two pretty blondes that were in my school but not in my grade.


Yeah. I have phimosis but I won't get that fixed (even not with steroid cremes), there's no point.


Oh hs, quite bad tbh. People didn't punch me or anything but they did make memes with my school picture and I often overheard shit "looks like a monster" etc.

I spent lunches or "free hours" (don't remember how they were called) either in the toilet stalls, in an empty computer room or rarely, in a small study room with other people. I had a "kind-of" friend in the last month of hs but we never stayed in touch. But overall it was lonely and shitty.

That's horrible I was bullied in my school to, but people never made memes, man. I can only image how depressed and miserable it was for you. I'm glad you got out of there, and at least aren't trapped in that place any longer. I would've been a chadlite to, if I didn't have such a baby face. Do you have any friends now, at least?

 

[AnApparentMyth]

less depressed more energetic, faster muscle growth. took me out of that rot state where i didn't much care i just was. gives me the drive to improve other things.
still have problems bringing me down but hopefully weight loss/muscle gain will improve some of those.

Yeah, that sounds amazing man! I'm glad that it improved you. May I ask how old are you or were you when you started?

 

[AnApparentMyth]

I can’t grow a beard and look kinda feminine, I’m sure It’s something with that

What does your dad look like?

 

[OwnerOpcell]

Yeah, that sounds amazing man! I'm glad that it improved you. May I ask how old are you or were you when you started?

37
38 in a few months. started trt 2 years ago in march test was 158 when i started

 

[XtremeMax]

Brutal, man. Hope you can at least feel okay bro

thank you bro

 

[AnApparentMyth]

37
38 in a few months. started trt 2 years ago in march test was 158 when i started

I see. I feel like you might be an odd ball or rare case. I feel like 158 is way below average, right? Were your parents also low t?

 

[AnApparentMyth]

thank you bro

No problem brocel

 

[OwnerOpcell]

I see. I feel like you might be an odd ball or rare case. I feel like 158 is way below average, right? Were your parents also low t?

medical condition
had the quack idiots diagnosed it when i was a teenager life might of been different

 

[AnApparentMyth]

medical condition
had the quack idiots diagnosed it when i was a teenager life might of been different

I see. That makes more sense then. I was thinking every man might need it or something. You take steroids too?

 

[OwnerOpcell]

I see. That makes more sense then. I was thinking every man might need it or something. You take steroids too?

200mg of test cyp a week
this year i decided to hell will it and went all in
300mg of bootleg test cyp on tuesday
200mg prescription test cyp on thursday
sarms daily
just used the last of the hgh need to order more

 

[ethniccel2025]

For anyone who has looked into this, could it be another? We know that some people here take TRT and love to boast about it. Especially towards newels
. Like @ethniccel2025 and @incel20.

I haven't gotten mine checked, but does anyone know what could be lowering it? I suspect low protein diets, and to much carbs with added sugar. Carbs aren't the enemy, added sugar and other shit is. I wonder if our isolation and constant domesticating contributes to it. Probably, in some way. I can grow a beard, for what's it worth but that's more genetic then anything. In fact, I feel like this entire conversation is debunked by genetics and models eating like shit but still having those muscles or overall mass if we are talking about masculinity.

Low t will cause inceldom

But inceldom also causes low t

 

[TheGrayWolf]

That's horrible I was bullied in my school to, but people never made memes, man. I can only image how depressed and miserable it was for you. I'm glad you got out of there, and at least aren't trapped in that place any longer. I would've been a chadlite to, if I didn't have such a baby face. Do you have any friends now, at least?

Thanks bro. I stay inside now mostly as well because I do a college degree from home.

I have only IRL friends I chat with or play video games with but I never go out or meet people. This has actually never happened.

 

[AnApparentMyth]

Thanks bro. I stay inside now mostly as well because I do a college degree from home.

I have only IRL friends I chat with or play video games with but I never go out or meet people. This has actually never happened.

Well, I'm glad you are hopefully a bit happier now. I'm glad you got a college degree, though. In my area, getting one is only getting harder and harder. Stay safe man. And stay happy, too!