is it worth the trouble?

[Tunistard]

> 18-year-old, never gotten into any relationship, and by looking at the Modern dating scene, I really doubt that i'll find anyone
so what is the Alternative path? but More importantly, is getting into a Relationship really that important? i mean, in the cultural tradition of my country (Pre-2011 or 15-ish) it was Mandatory for +19 people to have at least a Fianceé, nowadays with the Feminist wave, it's just solely a tradition for men, and usually older men who never been with a wife are assumed by society as mentally ill,criminals or drunkards, or even homosexual.

P.S: Book and Essay Recommendations are more than welcome, as well sorry for my bad English

 

[LesscoBlob]

No, I've tried multiple times, and honestly it's not worth it anymore.

 

[Tunistard]

No, I've tried multiple times, and honestly it's not worth it anymore.

well...so what's the best alternative path?

 

[dungeondragon]

Too young to be making such monumental, definitive life decisions. Take each year as it comes and go at your own pace. Anything can happen, unironically. A little tired of seeing those under 20 talk as if they have already experienced the world (I'm only a little older than you, mind you). Focus on education, copes, what have you.

 

[Trannydestroyer]

fakecels.is

 

[RollD20]

I think even normies are starting to wonder if its worth it.
It's really over.

 

[Tunistard]

Too young to be making such monumental, definitive life decisions. Take each year as it comes and go at your own pace. Anything can happen, unironically. A little tired of seeing those under 20 talk as if they have already experienced the world (I'm only a little older than you, mind you). Focus on education, copes, what have you.

Your right, though not trying to be like "No Gf...Life is over" type of fag, but i kinda never understood the appeal of having "Special one" in life, and i know it sound bit retardly edgy, but the hyperfixation of sex and romantic life is something i'll never understand

 

[dungeondragon]

Your right, though not trying to be like "No Gf...Life is over" type of fag, but i kinda never understood the appeal of having "Special one" in life, and i know it sound bit retardly edgy, but the hyperfixation of sex and romantic life is something i'll never understand

I'm with you on that. Also do not understand those who hyperfixate on that sort of stuff. Perhaps a mixture of biology and socialisation, peer pressure or something akin. Existence does feel rather pointless without something greater to aspire to, but I guess that is where copes come in. Just have to find the one - essentially replacing an obsession with relationships with the material. Pick your poison, haha.

 

[Tunistard]

I'm with you on that. Also do not understand those who hyperfixate on that sort of stuff. Perhaps a mixture of biology and socialisation, peer pressure or something akin. Existence does feel rather pointless without something greater to aspire to, but I guess that is where copes come in. Just have to find the one - essentially replacing an obsession with relationships with the material. Pick your poison, haha.

first thread i do and got that golden Response lol. but yeah, i came to this forum to hear New advices and see how others are doing, being in Arabic incel community didn't satistafie me as it all just either Tate and co. fans or the Religous "Based Muslims" crowd. and for Replacing the one, i kinda plan to move to some rural village or town for university to distance myself from City life and live a simple life, thankfully universities is free here, and even working as Baker can grant you a small house.

 

[dungeondragon]

first thread i do and got that golden Response lol. but yeah, i came to this forum to hear New advices and see how others are doing, being in Arabic incel community didn't satistafie me as it all just either Tate and co. fans or the Religous "Based Muslims" crowd. and for Replacing the one, i kinda plan to move to some rural village or town for university to distance myself from City life and live a simple life, thankfully universities is free here, and even working as Baker can grant you a small house.

Sounds pretty solid. Expect things to go wrong and just go with the flow, not to be a debby downer. The Muslim crowd sounds interesting, haha. I occasionally see YouTube videos of those "based" guys. Interesting to see how Tate has resonated within those sects of the community. Good to see you have something to work towards.

 

[Tunistard]

Sounds pretty solid. Expect things to go wrong and just go with the flow, not to be a debby downer. The Muslim crowd sounds interesting, haha. I occasionally see YouTube videos of those "based" guys. Interesting to see how Tate has resonated within those sects of the community. Good to see you have something to work towards.

thanks Fren. For tate, pretty Much kinda love-hate relationship with them, mostly sunnis accept him "a bit" as they are pretty much the Muslim Version of "the Mainstream counter-culture" and Anti-SJWs. Shia in otherhand despise him and see him as larper.

 

[nystagmuscel]

I think even normies are starting to wonder if its worth it.
It's really over.

 

[dungeondragon]

thanks Fren. For tate, pretty Much kinda love-hate relationship with them, mostly sunnis accept him "a bit" as they are pretty much the Muslim Version of "the Mainstream counter-culture" and Anti-SJWs. Shia in otherhand despise him and see him as larper.

Google tells me that Sunnis makes up the vast majority of the world's Muslims. Seeing as that is the case, I guess Tate's messages/words reach a far larger audience than perhaps many thought. Makes sense, as like you said he opposes the mainstream. With Shias, do they see him as someone who does not practice what he preaches, or is there something more to it? I know very little about that man - I believe he is now a Muslim? Perhaps that is where the issue lies. A publicity stunt or does he genuinely walk that path?

 

[Tunistard]

Google tells me that Sunnis makes up the vast majority of the world's Muslims. Seeing as that is the case, I guess Tate's messages/words reach a far larger audience than perhaps many thought. Makes sense, as like you said he opposes the mainstream. With Shias, do they see him as someone who does not practice what he preaches, or is there something more to it? I know very little about that man - I believe he is now a Muslim? Perhaps that is where the issue lies. A publicity stunt or does he genuinely walk that path?

To summarize it a bit: Shias are bit more esoteric and complex when comes to it beliefs, as they Funnily enough have more Emotional attachment to islam than the sunnis, (Most big arabic youtubers and content creators are from Saudi arabia or gulf) sunnis have the habit of "every Publicity is good Publicity" so they accept tate as both "The based Man" and "Punching bag" for Muslim Preachers and ytbers. to understand how Shias are attached to their own sect and religion, just watch this short video, where Nasr-allah, leader of Hizbuallah, spoke about imam hussien, which is Muslim Equivlent of "Saint Myrter" as he is from same family of Prophet Muhammed that died during first Civil war during Early days of caliphate, after the Prophet death.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrOjhV0M72Y&ab_channel=ALJadeedNews

 

[dungeondragon]

to understand how Shias are attached to their own sect and religion, just watch this short video, where Nasr-allah, leader of Hizbuallah, spoke about imam hussien, which is Muslim Equivlent of "Saint Myrter" as he is from same family of Prophet Muhammed that died during first Civil war during Early days of caliphate, after the Prophet death.

Did he say something emotionally moving that sparked that reaction from himself and the crowd? Is it accurate to say that, as Sunnis are the majority, Shias see themselves as the more pure, true sect of Islam?

 

[LesscoBlob]

well...so what's the best alternative path?

Video games, alcohol and vaping.

 

[Swagpilled]

you should read dragonball

 

[Tunistard]

Did he say something emotionally moving that sparked that reaction from himself and the crowd? Is it accurate to say that, as Sunnis are the majority, Shias see themselves as the more pure, true sect of Islam?

yeah. and for other Question:

The rivalry between Sunni and Shia Muslims has historical roots dating back to the early days of Islam and continues to shape the dynamics of the Muslim world today. The split between Sunni and Shia Muslims occurred soon after the death of the Prophet Muhammad in 632 CE, primarily over the issue of leadership and succession.

Sunni Muslims, the larger of the two sects, believe that the first four caliphs—Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, and Ali—were the rightful successors to the Prophet Muhammad. They follow the path of the majority and adhere to the principles and practices of the early Muslim community, known as the Sunnah. Sunnis constitute the majority in most Muslim-majority countries, including Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey, and Indonesia.

On the other hand, Shia Muslims believe that the Prophet Muhammad designated Ali ibn Abi Talib, his cousin and son-in-law, as his rightful successor. They believe that leadership should remain within the Prophet's bloodline through his descendants, known as Imams. Shia Muslims place great importance on the concept of Imamate, which they see as a source of spiritual and political guidance. Shia communities are found predominantly in Iran, Iraq, Bahrain, and Lebanon, among other countries.

The historical rivalry between Sunnis and Shias has often been intertwined with political conflicts and power struggles. Early disputes over the leadership of the Muslim community led to armed conflicts, most notably the Battle of Karbala in 680 CE, where the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad, Imam Hussein, was martyred. This event holds significant religious and emotional importance for Shia Muslims and has further solidified their separate identity.

Over time, differences in religious practices and beliefs have also contributed to the Sunni-Shia divide. For example, Sunnis emphasize the role of consensus and the community in interpreting Islamic law, while Shias grant more authority to religious scholars and their interpretations. Additionally, Shia Islam incorporates certain unique rituals, such as mourning processions during the month of Muharram to commemorate the martyrdom of Imam Hussein.

 

[Tarquinius]

well...so what's the best alternative path?

Just get the fuck away from them. It's over.

 

[dungeondragon]

yeah. and for other Question:

The rivalry between Sunni and Shia Muslims has historical roots dating back to the early days of Islam and continues to shape the dynamics of the Muslim world today. The split between Sunni and Shia Muslims occurred soon after the death of the Prophet Muhammad in 632 CE, primarily over the issue of leadership and succession.

Sunni Muslims, the larger of the two sects, believe that the first four caliphs—Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, and Ali—were the rightful successors to the Prophet Muhammad. They follow the path of the majority and adhere to the principles and practices of the early Muslim community, known as the Sunnah. Sunnis constitute the majority in most Muslim-majority countries, including Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey, and Indonesia.

On the other hand, Shia Muslims believe that the Prophet Muhammad designated Ali ibn Abi Talib, his cousin and son-in-law, as his rightful successor. They believe that leadership should remain within the Prophet's bloodline through his descendants, known as Imams. Shia Muslims place great importance on the concept of Imamate, which they see as a source of spiritual and political guidance. Shia communities are found predominantly in Iran, Iraq, Bahrain, and Lebanon, among other countries.

The historical rivalry between Sunnis and Shias has often been intertwined with political conflicts and power struggles. Early disputes over the leadership of the Muslim community led to armed conflicts, most notably the Battle of Karbala in 680 CE, where the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad, Imam Hussein, was martyred. This event holds significant religious and emotional importance for Shia Muslims and has further solidified their separate identity.

Over time, differences in religious practices and beliefs have also contributed to the Sunni-Shia divide. For example, Sunnis emphasize the role of consensus and the community in interpreting Islamic law, while Shias grant more authority to religious scholars and their interpretations. Additionally, Shia Islam incorporates certain unique rituals, such as mourning processions during the month of Muharram to commemorate the martyrdom of Imam Hussein.

Read every word .

That is enlightening, thank you for taking the time to write that up. A very rich and historically divisive subject, though that is to be expected of course. As an outsider looking in, I can appreciate the viewpoints of both sects. Caliphs vs the cousin/son-in-law... hmm. I can see arguments for both approaches. I could look this up, but perhaps I'll ask you. Where did the disagreement arise between who should lead the community? Why does one sect, the Shias, believe the Prophet Muhammad appointed his cousin/son-in-law and the other the Caliphs? I guess it was left up for interpretation, a grey area?

Even without this dispute, the approach to Islam from both sects differs regardless, so perhaps they would still have split off anyway, what with one wanting a more consensus/community environment and the other a stricter adherence to the scriptures and religious scholars - among other differences.

 

[Tunistard]

Read every word .

That is enlightening, thank you for taking the time to write that up. A very rich and historically divisive subject, though that is to be expected of course. As an outsider looking in, I can appreciate the viewpoints of both sects. Caliphs vs the cousin/son-in-law... hmm. I can see arguments for both approaches. I could look this up, but perhaps I'll ask you. Where did the disagreement arise between who should lead the community? Why does one sect, the Shias, believe the Prophet Muhammad appointed his cousin/son-in-law and the other the Caliphs? I guess it was left up for interpretation, a grey area?

Even without this dispute, the approach to Islam from both sects differs regardless, so perhaps they would still have split off anyway, what with one wanting a more consensus/community environment and the other a stricter adherence to the scriptures and religious scholars - among other differences.

the main Problem Comes when comes to this type of stuff that is very Complex to be summarized in one post, and get more shcizo and tricky as you dive deeper, both sides uses "Hadiths" which are quotes from Prophet ti support their causes, despite the recording of hadiths into one book happened after his death by 22 year, using the Vocal tradition (which basically someone told me that someone told someone that Prophet said something). i highly advices you to read more about islam as it history is literal clusterfuck. From "Sahabah", the men who are basically first belivers of Muhammed and his right men, being shitty people that they forgot about burying the Prophet when he died 3 days laterwhile arguing who should rule next, to the Theory that Muhammed Literally Plagirazied Numbers of Holy text during the creation of Quoran (that got origanized into book after his death BTW),so much that One of Early pagans that witnessed his first message stated "He is same as Hanifa". this not Mentioning the late history of islam with Alwaites,Ummayids, and the fact fatima had shota husband...

 

[dungeondragon]

espite the recording of hadiths into one book happened after his death by 22 year, using the Vocal tradition (which basically someone told me that someone told someone that Prophet said something)

tricky stuff. This is all new and interesting; religions seem to do the "up for interpretation" thing quite a lot, haha. History is never as clean as people assume. I admire those who devoutly believe nonetheless. Admirable in a way.

 

[TouhouMathcel]

Too young to be making such monumental, definitive life decisions. Take each year as it comes and go at your own pace. Anything can happen, unironically. A little tired of seeing those under 20 talk as if they have already experienced the world (I'm only a little older than you, mind you). Focus on education, copes, what have you.

 

[Glerforpus]

You’re 18 you till have a little time. Try to go out as much as possible brocel, because you it all ends you have to rot here with the rest of us

 

[Med Anime]

first, you're still young for relationships, wait until you're in your mid twenties atleast since everyone who gets into a relationshit in a muslim country at a young age will be seen as a degenerate and a thug
second, i am gonna assume that you live in tunisia ( i live in tunisia also but i am libyan) so getting a girl these days is very hard since toilets are getting outside and wearing revealing shit and they only choose the 6+ fetters handsome normies, tunisia isn't a good place for ascension, just choose another place like what i will do.

 

[sauruman24]

if you found your way to this forum and you are not a fed it means its absolutely over for you.

 

[sauruman24]

Don't listen to these niggers, I'm 19 and I've pretty much given up tbh

 

[Incedel]

Dealing with foids is like playing a game stacked against while she is fucking the referee so even if you win your cucked and its rigged against, no point in participating

 

[FakeFakecel]

Too young to be making such monumental, definitive life decisions.

 

[Tunistard]

if you found your way to this forum and you are not a fed it means its absolutely over for you.

i thought that goes for 8kun

 

[Tunistard]

first, you're still young for relationships, wait until you're in your mid twenties atleast since everyone who gets into a relationshit in a muslim country at a young age will be seen as a degenerate and a thug
second, i am gonna assume that you live in tunisia ( i live in tunisia also but i am libyan) so getting a girl these days is very hard since toilets are getting outside and wearing revealing shit and they only choose the 6+ fetters handsome normies, tunisia isn't a good place for ascension, just choose another place like what i will do.

a Fellow Dune coon! but Seriously thanks for advice!