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Discussion Is it that unreasonable that I, a virgin, would also want to spend his first time with another virgin?

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Recently I've started reading this manga (https://myanimelist.net/manga/129815/Shinu_hodo_Kimi_no_Shojo_ga_Hoshii) recommended by @Exhunter45 from this thread.

The gist is it's about a stereotypical fat ugly bastard who somehow manages to land himself a beautiful wife (mogs me), lamenting about how she had more experiences with strangers, with other men, while he has only her. It's quite an interesting read, goes cringe to my high-inhib self at times because of how low-inhib the MC goes, but I still think its pretty good, even getting relatable at times (except with him somehow landing a wife). Just started a few chapters though.

Anyway, I looked at the comment section of the mangadex chapters, and its full of normscum shitting on the MC, calling him disgusting, insecure and pathetic. Like really, is it really that unreasonable to wish that you were with a virgin as a virgin yourself? This is not the first time I've heard this from the goys either. On soyddit, I've come across similar things spewing out of their toungues when (probable) incels make similar posts regarding this, gaslighting them, telling them that "it doesn't mattER", "It's okay that she's sucked 1000s of other dicks before yours", "Imagine how good your dick would feel with an experienced girl" (<- this last one is a direct quote btw, CUCKS actually say this jfl), etc...

Seriously, is it that unreasonable to want a fellow virgin? Why is this so demonized so much?

Bringing this back to a more personal note, to me, I've always wanted my own first to be with a girl who also has me as her first. I've always had this thought even when I was bluepilled. It really would have broken my heart to know that a hypothetical girl that I've gone out was with has lusted over someone before enough to justtify spending a special moment (in my eyes) with him and not me. And then afterwards. everything I do will be compared to her past experiences, and I don't wish to be compared because I myself know that I am inferior, and I'll be judged for that. Why do I say this? Well I am an incel for a reason, and that's not because of my bad pERsonality.

Yes, I will say this outright, I am insecure.

Growing up, I was taught that sex should be a special act. A special act of intimacy and love. To extend this to someone having its first time, I think that its a lovely thing, to have 2 clueless inexperienced morons having this special moment together.

I don't want to spend my first time with someone who thinks that sex is just some casual thing, easily handed out (to chads only). I think that's nasty. I don't go around saying this opinion to people though, obviously, so if any ITrooner reads this and claims that "dis y u r inkwell cos u r spewing incel bs", you are completely retarded.

Everyone goes around to parties and sleeps around and I just think that this isn't the way to go. I feel that it would be really special to be someone's first instead of being settled for as her 200th man after years of fucking random Chads from bars or Tinder.

One sided love isn't. It's just not very nice to have this asymmetry. You are essentially inferior to the ones before, since you are basically placed lower on the priority list. Other STRANGERS would have seen other sides of her that you will never know. You are never getting back the shyness and awkwardness of a girl undressing herself in front of a man for the first time. She is just gonna see you, a virgin, being the shy and awkward one ALONE. Due to your shameful display of being unconfindent you will be judged negatively. This is in contrast to of BOTH of you having the same shy experience AT THE SAME TIME, excited at the new things you're both just trying out.

Some disclaimer: I am a youngcel. Just recently turned 19 actually. And according to stats, in my country, the average age of virginity loss is 22. I don't believe that honestly because of the depraved shit girls were posting on (((Jewstagram))) when I was 14. including explicitly talking about fucking their ever-changing boyfriends. But in the case that this magic number is true, then maybe I have a chance actually. Hopefuel.

But its a cope. No way I'm getting a girl due to my face anytime soon. Even if I somehow wake up tomorrow 6 foot tall, strong jawline, I won't even have the balls to actually to talk to them and not stumble over my words like a retard. Huh, turns out r/ITroons were right about my pERsonality :feelskek: Can't just wish away my total social isolation and being an outcast in my younger years after all.

I also acknowledge that this limits my (already non existent) dating pool to a tiny fraction. And this number drops off more and more with every year as I age. But this is an ideal that I am willing to die on a hill for. Maybe.

We'll see in a decade when I become a wizard. I hope I'll never have my first with an escort, because it really loses all meaning of sex. What's the point of sex when there's no pair bonding between it? You're basically using the other party as a living fleshlight. Might as well rot at home and jerk off.

I really don't want to die alone. Both sets of grandparents married young and lived together as long as they could till the end. I could still remember my grandfather speaking fondly of my grandmother at her funeral. You could really tell that true love was there. I wish that I'll experience it someday.

WALL OF TEXT DONE. Inb4 dnrcels. This is my first book in this site. I hope u like it. I didn't.
 
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No

The problem is you're ugly
 
Unreasonable: No
Unrealistic: Yes

Although as you said in your post might be more realistic for you since the age where foids lose their virginity is supposedly lower, but for someone like me living in the Jewnited States the chance might as well be zero. I have a better chance of winning the lottery.
 
Not unreasonable but very unrealistic as virgin women don’t exist past age 15 really
 
Unreasonable: No
Unrealistic: Yes

Although as you said in your post might be more realistic for you since the age where foids lose their virginity is supposedly lower, but for someone like me living in the Jewnited States the chance might as well be zero. I have a better chance of winning the lottery.
 
Not unreasonable but very unrealistic as virgin women don’t exist past age 15 really
Unfortunate reality. I wish 1-to-1 will be a thing again (like literally for thousands of years of human history). But jews have extended their degenerate cultural tendrils to even here in south east asia
 
Unfortunate reality. I wish 1-to-1 will be a thing again. But jews have extended their degenerate cultural tendrils to even here in south east asia
Yeah but even in an ideal world there isn’t gonna be virgin women past 18. How old are you, I’m 20. So there is gonna be no women my age still virgin
 
I feel the same way. If you ain't her first, you ain't her first pick
 
Umm, wow sweaty wanting a virgin is basically pedophilia, you should be arrested for even saying that. :foidSoy::soy:
 
over for dnrcels
Jfl was gonna type the exact thing. Not gonna expect people to read a whole book doe so he gets a pass
Yeah but even in an ideal world there isn’t gonna be virgin women past 18. How old are you, I’m 20. So there is gonna be no women my age still virgin
Like I said in my post in my country the statistic for virginity loss age is apparently quite high, but I don't really believe that due to the amount of shit foids post at 14 regarding fucking their ever changing boyfriends. I have a feeling that they are lying on the statistic questionairre due to obvious reasons...
Umm, wow sweaty wanting a virgin is basically pedophilia, you should be arrested for even saying that.
Jfl. I know if this post gets featured on IT (yay!) some fag is gonna say this exact thing :feelskek:
 
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If you are an incel you just have to fuck whatever is given to you (nothing)
 
It is unreasonable in the way that its never gonna happen
 
Your thoughts and feelings are valid, now you just need to find a virgin foid

Try looking into JBs, they're more likely to be virgin. In Minecraft
 
No hymen no deal.

Im not getting sex anyways so why not set hight standards (jfl high standards, just dont be run through whore :feelskek: )
 
Seriously, is it that unreasonable to want a fellow virgin? Why is this so demonized so much?
It is unreasonable. Female virgins are not your fellows. They are infinitely more valuable than you.

This is in contrast to of BOTH of you having the same shy experience AT THE SAME TIME, excited at the new things you're both just trying out.
You're not describing an encounter between equals. Shy male virgins are worthless. Shy female virgins are worth everything.

according to stats, in my country, the average age of virginity loss is 22. I don't believe that honestly because of the depraved shit girls were posting on (((Jewstagram))) when I was 14. including explicitly talking about fucking their ever-changing boyfriends. But in the case that this magic number is true, then maybe I have a chance actually. Hopefuel.
No chance. You already know this yourself. Looking the average here masks the true distribution which is what matters. Popular males and all females have sex extremely young. Unpopular males pull this average up.

Get these facts into your head while you're still relatively young:
  • The world is not a fair place.
  • Most women succeed, but only top-tier men succeed.
  • Men and women are not the same and not valued the same.
 
It's really bizarre to me. Basically, the people who are saying that it's weird, creepy, or wrong for you as a virgin man to want a relationship with a virgin woman, are saying that there is inherent inequality between men and women, where if a man and a woman are on the same level (both virgins) then such a relationship is inevitably unequal and exploitative, because in some way the man is inherently above the woman in power. Therefore, the way for a virgin man to have an equal relationship with a woman, he needs to have such a relationship with a much, much more sexually skilled and assertive woman, to balance out the unspecified, inherent advantage any and every man, according to them, has over any and every woman:feelshmm::chad:.

Now, that wouldn't be all that weird if such a worldview were preached and embraced by someone from a forum like this, but the people shitting on you for wanting a relationship with another virgin are the exact opposite of that, and they are the exact people who claim that they are for female empowerment and believers in full gender equality:feelskek:. Like, make it make sense:feelskek:.

It is unreasonable. Female virgins are not your fellows. They are infinitely more valuable than you.
Brutal:feelsbadman:. I guess that's just how it is:feelscry:, it's just pretty hypocritical for the people who virtue signal "muh gender equality:soy::foidSoy:," 24/7 to not even pretend to not believe in this:feelsUgh:.

You're not describing an encounter between equals. Shy male virgins are worthless. Shy female virgins are worth everything.
:feelsrope::feelsrope:

No chance. You already know this yourself. Looking the average here masks the true distribution which is what matters. Popular males and all females have sex extremely young. Unpopular males pull this average up.


Get these facts into your head while you're still relatively young:
  • The world is not a fair place.
  • Most women succeed, but only top-tier men succeed.
  • Men and women are not the same and not valued the same.
Pure truths:blackpill::blackpill::blackpill:.
 

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