Regardless, I think most of the older users follow the same line of thinking, they resent sex-havers, especially former users that ascended (they believe that those people were never incels to begin with, just socially challenged low-tier normies) partially because they believe they're truecels and will never ascend so seeing someone achieve a pleasure they deeply desire but cannot attain causes them pain and also in part because they view it as a betrayal of their trust: This was supposed to be a refuge, a safe space for those who were mentally isolated and mistreated by society due to their permanent inability to have sex and the presence of people who are capable of having sex feels like a violation and invasion of that safe space. I personally don't feel that way, if you ascend then all power to ya.