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Is it possible to self improve out of inceldom?

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Kenneth005

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The title explains it all. I need to be honest and say that I do want to have a gf and family, not become a Chad but get the good stuff. Is it possible and what is the best route?
 
Can you self-improve as a incel and be things like healthier etc sure, can you self-improve you way out of inceldom no that's not a thing, once incel always incel, otherwise you were just a lost normie
 
tell us your stats first. then we'll decide.
 
if you haven't even attempted anything yet then it could be possible.
Maybe


also:
tell us your stats
 
Money and arranged marriage maybe but those have the risk of ending up with somone hating your guts or you theirs so idk. I think unless you meet someone naturally you're fucked which is not possible for an incel.
 
Can you self-improve as a incel and be things like healthier etc sure, can you self-improve you way out of inceldom no that's not a thing, once incel always incel, otherwise you were just a lost normie
It feels like the definition of incel has shifted from 'involuntary celibate' to 'doomed to forever be involuntarily celibate and ostracised by society at large' on this forum, basically what truecel used to mean.
 
Get leg lengthening if you can afford it. It's not hard if you are tall.
 
It feels like the definition of incel has shifted from 'involuntary celibate' to 'doomed to forever be involuntarily celibate and ostracised by society at large' on this forum, basically what truecel used to mean.
Tbh, I don't what half this forum thinks, I just spew whatever the fuck is on my mind, I have believed that we are all doomed regardless for as long as I can remember, and way longer than I ever knew anything about incel stuff or this forum
 
no it's involuntary celibate not retarded celibate
you can only rare luck out of inceldom
you can self improve out of fakeceldom, and many do because there's a fakecel plague in society
 
The title explains it all. I need to be honest and say that I do want to have a gf and family, not become a Chad but get the good stuff. Is it possible and what is the best route?
If you’re actually an incel, you could become a betabux if you want a wife and kids that bad. Just make a lot of money and marry a woman in her 30s who has fucked her way through her teens and 20s.
 
The title explains it all. I need to be honest and say that I do want to have a gf and family, not become a Chad but get the good stuff. Is it possible and what is the best route?
Most people here are miserable sods who gave up a long time ago.
 
Can you self-improve as a incel and be things like healthier etc sure, can you self-improve you way out of inceldom no that's not a thing, once incel always incel, otherwise you were just a lost normie
where in "involuntarily celibate" does it say one has to forever be doomed?
 
It feels like the definition of incel has shifted from 'involuntary celibate' to 'doomed to forever be involuntarily celibate and ostracised by society at large' on this forum, basically what truecel used to mean.
:yes: this is just stupid. most people here could probably ascend in one way or another if just a few things were different in their lives. they just got unlucky
 
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where in "involuntarily celibate" does it say one has to forever be doomed?
It doesn't, but if something is already happening against you're will and considering most incels aren't going to revolt any time soon, most wont go commiting rape, some wont ever have enough money to get escorts, some may not even have a chance at all, in most cases i think its safe to say most are doomed that's just my opinion, if you still have hope good on you
 
The title explains it all. I need to be honest and say that I do want to have a gf and family, not become a Chad but get the good stuff. Is it possible and what is the best route?
Surgery, if you could improve outside of that, you were a fakecel that never tried… Only claim incel once you genuinely tried everything for months to years.
 
Tbh, I don't what half this forum thinks, I just spew whatever the fuck is on my mind, I have believed that we are all doomed regardless for as long as I can remember, and way longer than I ever knew anything about incel stuff or this forum
Regardless, I think most of the older users follow the same line of thinking, they resent sex-havers, especially former users that ascended (they believe that those people were never incels to begin with, just socially challenged low-tier normies) partially because they believe they're truecels and will never ascend so seeing someone achieve a pleasure they deeply desire but cannot attain causes them pain and also in part because they view it as a betrayal of their trust: This was supposed to be a refuge, a safe space for those who were mentally isolated and mistreated by society due to their permanent inability to have sex and the presence of people who are capable of having sex feels like a violation and invasion of that safe space. I personally don't feel that way, if you ascend then all power to ya.
 
:yes: this is just stupid. most people here could probably ascend in one way or another if just a few things were different in their lives. they just got unlucky
I completely agree, this is not my belief, just the general consensus on this forum that I've observed.
 
Regardless, I think most of the older users follow the same line of thinking, they resent sex-havers, especially former users that ascended (they believe that those people were never incels to begin with, just socially challenged low-tier normies) partially because they believe they're truecels and will never ascend so seeing someone achieve a pleasure they deeply desire but cannot attain causes them pain and also in part because they view it as a betrayal of their trust: This was supposed to be a refuge, a safe space for those who were mentally isolated and mistreated by society due to their permanent inability to have sex and the presence of people who are capable of having sex feels like a violation and invasion of that safe space. I personally don't feel that way, if you ascend then all power to ya.
Yeah, I do pretty much agree, most will resent the users who do get the chance to ascend, and while I still think those users will always just have been lost normies, I don't see a reason to resent them, because clearly they were still somewhat incelish, I just don't have the energy to really care to resent people that much anymore
 
It feels like the definition of incel has shifted from 'involuntary celibate' to 'doomed to forever be involuntarily celibate and ostracised by society at large' on this forum, basically what truecel used to mean.
Trucel quite literally means True Incel. For you to be INVOLUNTARILY celibate, it would mean your celibacy is outside of your control.

If you could’ve improved and ascended without surgery, it was never involuntary and it doesn’t make sense to claim otherwise. Fuck, am I one of the few here that genuinely tried everything, every single cope for years before I decided I was incel?
 
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Well, you coud betabuxx some foid, but then it would be a sad experience
 
If you’re actually an incel, you could become a betabux if you want a wife and kids that bad. Just make a lot of money and marry a woman in her 30s who has fucked her way through her teens and 20s.
if you are a truecel it doesn't work. betabuxx has just become more of a term here because as an all-incels forum, it's mostly sub5s who won't betabuxx not sub3s
 
Yeah, I do pretty much agree, most will resent the users who do get the chance to ascend, and while I still think those users will always just have been lost normies, I don't see a reason to resent them, because clearly they were still somewhat incelish, I just don't have the energy to really care to resent people that much anymore
Ascend if you can, but if it wasn’t through surgery, it was never involuntary, you just never tried. That’s all it really is…
 
if you are a truecel it doesn't work. betabuxx has just become more of a term here because as an all-incels forum, it's mostly sub5s not sub3s
If this was a truecel forum, 90% of the current userbase would be banned
 
moneymaxxing (which leads to shit like surgery)

and asian women (especially on native land and if your white)

apparently a lot of the people here do ascend tho but thats pretty much it
 
I just don't have the energy to really care to resent people that much anymore
Yeah, I've seen a few of your posts and I've surmised that essentially given up on life (much less trying to ascend) and numbly drift through your empty existence in a drug-induced stupor, occasionally haunting this forum when you're lucid enough. They've actually prompted me to develop what I call the 'passive suicide' theory where depressed people who have lost the will to live will resign themselves to isolation and perception-altering substances in order to 'escape' their life until the adverse effects of isolation and excessive drug use cause their body and mind to deteriorate to the point of death, they do this because they're so drained that the don't even have the energy or determination to kill themselves.
 
Yeah, I've seen a few of your posts and I've surmised that essentially given up on life (much less trying to ascend) and numbly drift through your empty existence in a drug-induced stupor, occasionally haunting this forum when you're lucid enough. They've actually prompted me to develop what I call the 'passive suicide' theory where depressed people who have lost the will to live will resign themselves to isolation and perception-altering substances in order to 'escape' their life until the adverse effects of isolation and excessive drug use cause their body and mind to deteriorate to the point of death, they do this because they're so drained that the don't even have the energy or determination to kill themselves.
meh somewhat accurate, only reason I like the drugs is it keeps me numb for that point yes, but I have no problem taking my pistol and pulling the trigger on myself, i'm still around in this misery because I like watching the stupidty and chaos of this world not much else, but sure you're accurate for some
 
The only true way out of inceldom is through expensive facial surgery that turns your ugly face into beautiful one. But that is not risky (you could die cause surgeon messed up) it also requires a lot of wealth (these surgeries are like $20k).
 
You can try, we'll watch it :feelscomfy:
 
tons of facial+ body surgeries probably will cost more than 100.000$
 
Poor little GrAY, be doesn't know it yet.
 
Left NEETdom for a good job and gymaxxing.
Also start meeting people.
Doing that from a year now.

The results are none. Still trying.
 
The title explains it all. I need to be honest and say that I do want to have a gf and family, not become a Chad but get the good stuff. Is it possible and what is the best route?
money and surgery
 
Surgery, moneymaxxing, SEAmaxxing are your best tools
 
The title explains it all. I need to be honest and say that I do want to have a gf and family, not become a Chad but get the good stuff. Is it possible and what is the best route?
If you have the genetic potential for it yes
 

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