Discussion Is everything just supposed to "happen naturally"?

[SupremeAutist]

I've seen this 4chan post a multitude of times over the years. The first time I saw it was during my redpill/self-improvement phase and I of course dismissed this as the OP just being lazy. But as my life went on and despite all the attempts to improve I saw little to no results I started to become more and more blackpilled.

I think everyone on this forum would agree that for the above average guy (HTNs, chadlites and chads) things do really just slide into place without much thought put into it. If you're an above average guy opportunities to do well socially and in dating get handed to you because your looks give you value over other people.

But what about the average guy? How much thought does the average guy really put into his life in order to get the results he does? Are we on this forum really such genetic trash that even for average men the things we desire like romantic relationships just happen naturally with little thought behind it while we can't get them even when we put in the effort?

When I think back on my school experience, this post really does seem to line up with it. I don't think the average guys in my school were watching self improvement videos and trying to learn how to socialise properly the way I was but regardless they lifemogged me.

No one ends up the way we do for no reason.

 

[Roastie Crusher]

autism is a real bitch especially when you think you're normal

 

[despisedpaul]

its true. normies just act like themselves and get friends and pussy.

 

[LeonTheSilent]

"Normal" life just happens. But not for us, i fear.

 

[SupremeAutist]

autism is a real bitch especially when you think you're normal

Jfl I used to cope that even though I was diagnosed I was "NT-passing". Even sperged out about it once when autism got brought up for some reason when I was attempting to normiemax.

"Fun fact I actually have it but you wouldn't know it"

"I'm sorry but no I can tell"

Was fucking brutal

 

[SupremeAutist]

its true. normies just act like themselves and get friends and pussy.

This is more brutal a thought than any of the "most guys are incel now" exaggeration of hypergamy. It feels worse when you really feel like the bottom of the barrel rather than one of many.

"Normal" life just happens. But not for us, i fear.

It's depressing how far of the mark we really are

 

[Sgtpinkie]

That post hit right on the money. You think Chad had to think things through? You think he had to strategize and do any kind of self improvement? It’s not just a meme. If you’re a normal, functioning member of soyciety. Things will naturally fit into place. You wouldn’t be on a forum complaining. Chad or quite literally anyone never had to vent on a forum about their sexual frustration.

Jfl I used to cope that even though I was diagnosed I was "NT-passing". Even sperged out about it once when autism got brought up for some reason when I was attempting to normiemax.

"Fun fact I actually have it but you wouldn't know it"

"I'm sorry but no I can tell"

Was fucking brutal

Any normie worth their salt can instantly tell if your not like the “others” if your behaviors are strange and out of the ordinary. You aren’t fooling anyone, if anything your an amusement for them to gawk at.

I’m sorry
But it’s over.

 

[4 eyes nolife]

everything does happen naturally I saw all my friends who were losers in middle school and early high school get girlfriends every single one. Meanwhile I didn’t even get a kiss from a single girl no girlfriend. A woman will come to your life if your not sub 5 she will seek you

 

[Castaway]

Yes, being autistic and/or sub-5 excludes you from key developmental milestones and basically makes you a social pariah. I have male family members younger than me who have already surpassed me and had sex just by living and going with the flow. For NTs, socializing and forming deep relationships comes as naturally as breathing air.

 

[daydreamER]

Yes. Despite many copers on this forum saying shit like "average normie is incel now" most normies get relationships just by cruising through life and most have experienced teen love to some extent. We are mostly genetic trash or non NT weirdos.

 

[TheAbsoluteMaximum]

I'm afraid so brother. Things always just fall into place for normies; they don't actually have to "try" or "improve themselves.

 

[Mistake]

Yes.

 

[DarkStar]

I genuinely cannot even imagine even an AVERAGE person of our age watching the self improvement shit I did in HS

Holy shit

 

[Lazyandtalentless]

Nothing ever happens

 

[SocialOutkast95]

From what I could tell through a lifetime of observing... it's less about talking and more body language. People get with each other (friendships, romantic relationships) naturally. Nothing is supposed to be forced. If it feels awkward and wrong, it's because it is. If you're gut is telling you that you're fucking up, it's because you are. We as humans are able to acknowledge shit like this, but our ego's get in the way most of the time. Like, when you get rejected, it's simply because you were never supposed to approach that foid in the first place. Most guys don't want to admit this, that's why you have red-pill freakouts of dudes who can't handle it. At least with the black pill, it lets you realize nothing is your fault and everything is pre-determined by your genetics. Simple as that. Everything should feel natural.

 

[The Scarlet Prince]

The original post is just a troll, but what he's saying is true.

 

[Todd Thundercock]

20% of best genetics men just live life and women flock to them.

60% of men have limited success with women, but they find one/few that may not even like them, but see them as a decent partner.

20% of worst genetics men get nowhere with women. Maybe some will find a fat/crazy one to fuck or even marry, but they never receive true affection.

 

[Todd Thundercock]

The original post is just a troll, but what he's saying is true.

It wasn't really a troll, he was mocking PUA scam artists which were popular at the time. They obviously deserved it.

 

[Friezacel]

Chad or quite literally anyone never had to vent on a forum about their sexual frustration.

Cope. Plenty of normfags do complain about it, difference is they vent on bluepilled websits like Cuckit

 

[Friezacel]

Most normies i know didnt have gfs

 

[DutchCel01]

for normal people yes, shit just happens kinda crazy right? I have no friends currently but when i did i remember asking them about looksmaxxing and getting girls etc. Looksmaxxing they thought it was just a joke people on tiktok said and for getting girls they just went on tinder or asked girls out irl..

 

[ItsOverMan]

Theory: NT is the MOST important trait for a male to have. If you don't have face, height + NT can make up for it. If you don't have height, face + NT can help. If you don't have height or face, NT + money/status can help. In other words you NEED NT regardless of your other traits (unless you're actually Chad, then being non-NT is forgiven as being "quirky").

You also need to be NT to have a social life or to be desired socially.

 

[To koniec]

yes and no, I think some people need a certain set of circumstances for life to be good but at the same time the genetic trash will always be at the bottom

 

[curryboy420]

Well yeah you're either good enough to make progress in life or you get stuck like me and it's over. If there was a way to try harder with my abilities I would have done it. I'm fucked now

 

[Sex-Starved Beast]

Most people think that that post is wrong because they misunderstand what it's saying. "Chad had to work hard, put effort in sports, school, talk to girls" and so on. They are completely missing the point. The post isn't saying that Chad (or normies) has never put effort in anything, but that it was still natural to do it for him. As an incel, you're constantly fighting against your true nature. When normies tell you to just be yourself, they actually mean it, but it's the worst thing an incel could do.

 

[fullofchagrin]

But what about the average guy? How much thought does the average guy really put into his life in order to get the results he does? Are we on this forum really such genetic trash that even for average men the things we desire like romantic relationships just happen naturally with little thought behind it while we can't get them even when we put in the effort?

Yes.