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I've seen a few examples of websites having a bad time with DreamHost for being incel websites, can somebody confirm?
 
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it just looks bad tbh Idk about its history with incels
 
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Any admin of any involuntary celibate website should be using a Russian VPS from a nondescript company.
 
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I wouldn't recommend them, but RU-Center (one of the big Russian webhosts) is even worse. They not only shut us down, but wouldn't even let us retrieve our data from the server. At least DreamHost had the courtesy to give us a month to move our data off the server.

By trial and error, we're gonna figure out which webhost actually protects free speech.

Here's what I want to know -- if you run a webhost, what is the benefit of shutting down sites in response to complaints? What do you gain from doing that? Is it really a good PR strategy to tell the world, "Hey, if you're hosted with us, and people complain about your site, we'll cave in and shut you down"?

I guess they might worry about DDoS attacks, but SJWs don't actually know how to launch those. They would need help from someone who understands tech.
 
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EARTH said:
Any admin of any involuntary celibate website should be using Russian hosting from a tiny 3rd party company.
I thought about offshore hosting companies, but really suggestions like yours frighten me as I fear their prices could be
completely fucking shit offering you resources a few times worse than you would regularly get for that basic ability to state
opinions people don't like.
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I wouldn't recommend them, but RU-Center (one of the big Russian webhosts) is even worse. By trial and error, we're gonna figure out which webhost actually protects free speech.
I suspect that if its HQ is located in cucked places like California, London and so on you're probably not going to get any protection
of the like.
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I wouldn't recommend them, but RU-Center (one of the big Russian webhosts) is even worse. By trial and error, we're gonna figure out which webhost actually protects free speech.

Here's what I want to know -- if you run a webhost, what is the benefit of shutting down sites in response to complaints? What do you gain from doing that? Is it really a good PR strategy to tell the world, "Hey, if you're hosted with us, and people complain about your site, we'll cave in and shut you down"?

I guess they might worry about DDoS attacks, but SJWs don't actually know how to launch those. They would need help from someone who understands tech.
As for shutting these websites down - It's because of social pressure, if for instance there was a website merely insulting the
ridiculous idea of an infinite number of gender identities if the company would get pressurized enough by companies and
people and media outlets it's likely to assume that company might shut it down, even though it's really within the boundaries of reason,
they don't want to hurt their reputation and lose their customers so they would say what ever it takes to maintain their position.

And Anti DDOS attacks could be handled with Cloudfare although this russian website owner that spoke about it here
mentioned they also caved in to the pressure so I don't fucking know.
 
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AntiPain said:
I thought about offshore hosting companies, but really suggestions like yours frighten me as I fear their prices could be
completely fucking shit offering you resources a few times worse than you would regularly get for that basic ability to state
opinions people don't like.

I suspect that if its HQ is located in cucked places like California, London and so on you're probably not going to get any protection
of the like.

As for shutting these websites down - It's because of social pressure, if for instance there was a website merely insulting the
ridiculous idea of an infinite number of gender identities if the company would get pressurized enough by companies and
people and media outlets it's likely to assume that company might shut it down, even though it's really within the boundaries of reason,
they don't want to hurt their reputation and lose their customers so they would say what ever it takes to maintain their position.

And Anti DDOS attacks could be handled with Cloudfare although this russian website owner that spoke about it here
mentioned they also caved in to the pressure so I don't fucking know.
Well, the situation with CloudFlare is, when they get an abuse report, they'll contact the webhost and say, "Hey, handle this situation." I'm not sure what the consequences would be if they didn't handle the situation. CloudFlare has the power to just refuse to provide DNS services to a site they don't like, but instead they pass the buck to the webhost usually, unless it's the Daily Stormer they're dealing with.

Why would a company LOSE business for protecting free speech? I don't know anyone who would say, "Oh, I'm boycotting that webhost because they hosted a site that I don't like." Normally, tech-minded people (who are probably the ones deciding which webhost to use) don't have that SJW mindset.
 
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Leucosticte said:
Well, the situation with CloudFlare is, when they get an abuse report, they'll contact the webhost and say, "Hey, handle this situation." I'm not sure what the consequences would be if they didn't handle the situation.

Why would a company LOSE business for protecting free speech? I don't know anyone who would say, "Oh, I'm boycotting that webhost because they hosted a site that I don't like."
I wish I could say otherwise, from what I remember if I'm correct some time ago it was reported that GoDaddy cancelled
stormfront's domain for "breaking their rules" or some bullshit
 
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AntiPain said:
I wish I could say otherwise, from what I remember if I'm correct some time ago it was reported that GoDaddy cancelled
stormfront's domain for "breaking their rules" or some bullshit

GoDaddy is totally cucked; nobody should use them if their site is the slightest bit edgy.
 
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GoDaddy is totally cucked; nobody should use them if their site is the slightest bit edgy.
What good domain websites are there?
 
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AntiPain said:
What good domain websites are there?

PRQ.se is the next company I'm going to put to the test to see if they can handle that without cucking out.