Discussion Is betabuxxing ascension? Are normie relationships really the solution to Inceldom?

[Logic55]

Incels typically say that betabuxxing does not count as Ascension regardless of what age you are. Aren't normie relationships the same thing? In a normie relationships the male Is used as a shoulder to cry on by the female. The male usually provides for the female. While men give it their all in these relationships they are sometimes rewarded with sex. Is this the life you want? Do you want a normie relationship?

 

[Hail]

Never, pump and dump in India leave and never come back

 

[Balikesir]

Betabuxxing in the end leads to cucketry. When you work to pay for her needs. She will meet up with her ex lovers. Ascending by cucketry is the highest form of humiliation.

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

Incels typically say that betabuxxing does not count as Ascension regardless of what age you are. Aren't normie relationships the same thing?

yes

 

[Logic55]

Betabuxxing in the end leads to cucketry. When you work to pay for her needs. She will meet up with her ex lovers. Ascending by cucketry is the highest form of humiliation.

The vast majority of modern relationships are cucked, do you agree?

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

normie relationships are relationships where the foid isn't attracted to u and would rather fuck chad

that's not a worthwhile relationship, u r paying to be her court jester

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

betabuxx = pay-to-lose

 

[Logic55]

normie relationships are relationships where the foid isn't attracted to u and would rather fuck chad

that's not a worthwhile relationship, u r paying to be her court jester

I always see people on here say that they want to be a normie so they can ascend. They think normie relationships will save them.

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

I always see people on here say that they want to be a normie so they can ascend. They think normie relationships will save them.

yea but people here are retarded, so

 

[Balikesir]

I always see people on here say that they want to be a normie so they can ascend. They think normie relationships will save them.

Im glad im not normie. I know of human nature. Why I get treated badly and what not to do. People on this page say many things not out of logic but out of emotion. They are upset and let their emotions think for them. They have to get used to being incel. Then they will recognize that being a normie is bad.

 

[Logic55]

Im glad im not normie. I know of human nature. Why I get treated badly and what not to do. People on this page say many things not out of logic but out of emotion. They are upset and let their emotions think for them. They have to get used to being incel. Then they will recognize that being a normie is bad.

The only benefit of being a "normie" is having the ability to make friends.

 

[Balikesir]

The only benefit of being a "normie" is having the ability to make friends.

But what conversation will be held? Stupid topics and common sense subjects. Having normal friends is a time waster.

 

[Logic55]

But what conversation will be held? Stupid topics and common sense subjects. Having normal friends is a time waster.

For me, I have some IRL friends. We talk about similar interests and life in general. I'm not an introvert, I'm somewhat extroverted.

 

[Grodd]

Rather be Incel than Cuck

 

[yourbod_ymychoicel]

short: no, not really. but foid's standards continue to rise, keep that in mind. even for 'Normies' this will be the best Outcome they can achieve.

 

[Undervalued]

Ehh. Some Bluepill advice does work (i.e., lower your standards). But for Incels that would entail looksmaxxing to a very strong 6 or 7, then going for really ugly females (3 and below). Is it worth it, though? You would have a solid relationship since she would be grateful you gave her a chance, but would you be happy? Men are also visual to an extent.

There is a flip side to this. Going for female 9s as a male 6. Every single TikTok girl with astronomical standards is always mid. Adding to this, every single attractive manlet I have known always got the slighter shorter woman. The woman was never taller. Really attractive women understand looks are important, but they are not everything in a relationship (height also makes females less attractive btw). They are also used to being in control. Many of them cannot be with a super good-looking man who knows he is super good-looking. The power dynamics change.

I'm an abused dog, so I would probably use a Femcel/LTB-looking woman with a top 99% percentile personality to build up the confidence to level up.

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

a top 99% percentile personality

 

[failmaxxed]

normie relationships are relationships where the foid isn't attracted to u and would rather fuck chad

that's not a worthwhile relationship, u r paying to be her court jester

This. It can't be considered ascension since they aren't getting any sex, betabuxxing is more akin to extreme orbiting.
Ascension implies getting sex in the relationship.