Discussion Inductive Trauma vs Reductive Trauma

[Shinichi]

I think in broad strokes that there are really only two different types of trauma and I think that each type is more represented between men and women respectively.
The first type of trauma is what I believe what most people think of as trauma and that is inductive trauma. This is when something horrible happens to you. It could be something like getting into a car crash that you survive to getting deployed into a war zone to even sexual assault. These events are what cause you to get depressed and developmental illnesses that will last you your entire life.
The other type of trauma is what I like to call reductive trauma. This is when you are lacking. Sam crucial personal growth milestone and you suffer from it. The best example and most poignant example is literally all of us. Being an incel is for doctor trauma since we lack both the physical intimacy and emotional connection from women that is a vital part of growing and maturing as a person. Other reductive trauma examples are lack of familiar. Being underappreciated at work or at school, and general on recognition from your society.
Now when it comes to dividing these into which gender they are represented the most in, I would easily say that women go through inductive trauma more and men go through reductive trauma more. Women naturally attract attention. + Just people in general around them since they are the machines of society. Without them we cannot reproduce. So on a natural level more bad things are going to occur to them simply because they are attractors in general. Men on the other hand are disposable and because of that there is less attention put on them by society leading into lack of care and compassion that they receive.
This was a very spur of the moment idea and I'd love to see what you guys think of this. I'm not some psychiatrist so don't expect me to give out studies or anything but this is just some top of the head type shit.

 

[oddneg]

dnr but probably high IQ

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

I agree with the overall idea, but I think you’re underestimating how much inductive trauma men experience too. War, workplace deaths, violent crime, suicide, etc... All of these hit men harder. The real difference is that when a woman suffers, society rushes to support her, but when a man suffers, no one gives a damn. The worst part is that men also get reductive trauma on top of that. It’s suffering on all fronts, and no one cares. IIRC men experience traumatic events more often, but women are more likely to have PTSD—my guess is that this is influenced by multiple factors such as cultural norms and how seriously mental health is seen in men. As well as the fact women are mentally weaker thus more susceptible to developing PTSD.

 

[HotDogCel]

when a man suffers, no one gives a damn.

 

[Shinichi]

I agree with the overall idea, but I think you’re underestimating how much inductive trauma men experience too. War, workplace deaths, violent crime, suicide, etc... All of these hit men harder. The real difference is that when a woman suffers, society rushes to support her, but when a man suffers, no one gives a damn. The worst part is that men also get reductive trauma on top of that. It’s suffering on all fronts, and no one cares. IIRC men experience traumatic events more often, but women are more likely to have PTSD—my guess is that this is influenced by multiple factors such as cultural norms and how seriously mental health is seen in men. As well as the fact women are mentally weaker thus more susceptible to developing PTSD.

Fair point. Men also go through so much. But to be fair as you stated even though men go through more shit than women they are less likely to develop PTSD. Not to trivialize men's suffering but on some level men have evolved to some degree to take on inductive trauma. To put things into perspective. The reason why men are almost twice as strong as women is cause men throughout history have had to kill animals and other men . It's hard coded in our DNA. However reductive trauma is something that hits men harder in my opinion since there's no way to combat it in the same way you can with the inductive kind. You can fight off aggressors or win wars but you can't physically combat male loneliness that were facing. It's a complex societal issue you can't punch which causes men to feel helpless and exacerbated the problem.

 

[iicc66]

I think in broad strokes that there are really only two different types of trauma and I think that each type is more represented between men and women respectively.
The first type of trauma is what I believe what most people think of as trauma and that is inductive trauma. This is when something horrible happens to you. It could be something like getting into a car crash that you survive to getting deployed into a war zone to even sexual assault. These events are what cause you to get depressed and developmental illnesses that will last you your entire life.
The other type of trauma is what I like to call reductive trauma. This is when you are lacking. Sam crucial personal growth milestone and you suffer from it. The best example and most poignant example is literally all of us. Being an incel is for doctor trauma since we lack both the physical intimacy and emotional connection from women that is a vital part of growing and maturing as a person. Other reductive trauma examples are lack of familiar. Being underappreciated at work or at school, and general on recognition from your society.
Now when it comes to dividing these into which gender they are represented the most in, I would easily say that women go through inductive trauma more and men go through reductive trauma more. Women naturally attract attention. + Just people in general around them since they are the machines of society. Without them we cannot reproduce. So on a natural level more bad things are going to occur to them simply because they are attractors in general. Men on the other hand are disposable and because of that there is less attention put on them by society leading into lack of care and compassion that they receive.
This was a very spur of the moment idea and I'd love to see what you guys think of this. I'm not some psychiatrist so don't expect me to give out studies or anything but this is just some top of the head type shit.

High iq but dudes also experience alot of inductive trauma because noone cares about them, they are disposable

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

Fair point. Men also go through so much. But to be fair as you stated even though men go through more shit than women they are less likely to develop PTSD. Not to trivialize men's suffering but on some level men have evolved to some degree to take on inductive trauma. To put things into perspective. The reason why men are almost twice as strong as women is cause men throughout history have had to kill animals and other men . It's hard coded in our DNA. However reductive trauma is something that hits men harder in my opinion since there's no way to combat it in the same way you can with the inductive kind. You can fight off aggressors or win wars but you can't physically combat male loneliness that were facing. It's a complex societal issue you can't punch which causes men to feel helpless and exacerbated the problem.

 

[Shinichi]

Another point I wanted to add is that inductor trauma is the main reason why women are whores and fucked up. They get with Chad and he pumps and dumps them which causes lum to feel resentment and triggers their hypergamy to find someone who is better than them in the looks department who will also commit to them. Or they wind up getting molested by a family member or an authority figure and that also fucks with their psyche. As I said before, women are natural attractors both in the sense of the physical and in a also socially magnetic kind of way. They are in essence the ultimate resource so everyone will always try to interact with them in some capacity. Funnily enough, I actually believe that Reductive trauma that men face can be solved quite easily. With female inductive trauma, you can't unfuck these women and you can't really make their events just disappear. What's done is done. However, with Reductive trauma, if you actually give these men the love and attention they deserve, they actually probably will turn into functional members of society and b depressed loners like everyone on this board. I think he'll definitely take some time, but I believe it actually is possible.