Incels cannot be communists.

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Communism stands for women's political rights, women's rights to education and women's right to freely dispose of labor - a woman who is educated and can earn money does not need an average man - in total, average women gather in Chad's harems, since they have no motivation to agree to something less, because they can get an education and to work. Communism is a direct path to incelibacy.
Any communism essentially supports women's rights, since Marx has already laid the foundation of ideology for the desire to bring women into society. All varieties of communism: Leninism, Trotskyism, Stalinism, Maoism, Titoism, and so on are only offshoots of Marx's original thought.

 

[Emba]

Whatever you say comrade

 

[vigcookie_227oalgo]

communism is also all about caring about your "fellow workers", who happen to not give a fuck if you're dead or not, even worse, most of the times they absolutely despise you and WANT you to die

 

[blackpillednigga]

communism is also all about caring about your "fellow workers", who happen to not give a fuck if you're dead or not, even worse, most of the times they absolutely despise you and WANT you to die

workers = incels. most incels are either NEETs or mcdonald wagecucks. richfags like elliot rodgers are an exception

 

[blackpillednigga]

anti-communism is cucked. usually it comes from those that want to lick the boots of the rich. "NOOOO NOT THE RICHFAGGORNOS "

 

[DarkStar]

anti-communism is cucked. usually it comes from those that want to lick the boots of the rich. "NOOOO NOT THE RICHFAGGORNOS "

Not always, I see the rich as a problem, but I also do see that some are just more fit to lead compared to others.

When I'm speaking against the rich, I mainly mean the top 2-3% of Billionaires

Ideally, I liked some of Imperial Germany economic reform policies.

 

[blackpillednigga]

Ideally, I liked some of Imperial Germany economic reform policies.

and if you advocated for it in 2024, you'd be considered a marxist or anti-american traitor. thats how low iq anti-communists are

 

[lifesucksandyoudie]

All enlightenment ideologies espousing equality are inherently feminist to a degree.

 

[DarkStar]

and if you advocated for it in 2024, you'd be considered a marxist or anti-american traitor. thats how low iq anti-communists are

The problem is "communism" is also used as an epithet by boomers and the such

I am objectively anti-communist/bolshevik since it's inherently egalitarian and by extension feminist to varying degrees

 

[AutistSupremacist]

Any communism essentially supports women's rights, since Marx has already laid the foundation of ideology for the desire to bring women into society. All varieties of communism: Leninism, Trotskyism, Stalinism, Maoism, Titoism, and so on are only offshoots of Marx's original thought.

Well so does Fascism, by supporting Fascism, you are also advocating for the liberation of women to some degree. Some of the most ardent Feminists of the 20th century were Fascists/Fascist sympathizers Like Mosley.

 

[DarkStar]

Well so does Fascism, by supporting Fascism, you are also advocating for the liberation of women to some degree. Some of the most ardent Fascists of the 20th century were Fascists/Fascist sympathizers Like Mosley.

Fascism adheres to natural hierarchies and laws much more

 

[KingOfInceldia]

"Incels"=who support communism are non whyte subhumans, whyte fags, or kikes.

It's like a non whyte saying it's Incel while it runs away from it's low body count women to live in Jewmerica

 

[Castaway]

Ideally, I liked some of Imperial Germany economic reform policies.

Spengler distinguishes in his book Prussianism and Socialism between Marxist socialism, which reflects the rigid classism and individualism of Victorian England, and German socialism which reflected the collectivist, but at the same time hierarchical and nationalistic Prussian Germany. In Victorian England, the poor and the rich loathe each other, with the former envying the material wealth of the latter, which for the English is the ultimate measure of success. In Prussian Germany, by contrast, workers and employers recognize each other as compatriots and both work for their nation, with the worker's right to fair pay and working conditions guaranteed by the state, as is the employer's right to profit. Essentially, English (Marxist) socialism has its origins in class conflict, while Prussian socialism has its origins in class cooperation.

Prussianism and Socialism - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

State Socialism (Germany) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[LeFrenchCel]

anti-communism is cucked. usually it comes from those that want to lick the boots of the rich. "NOOOO NOT THE RICHFAGGORNOS "

Tbh
Richfag support should be considered as bluepill posting tbhngl

 

[Soystein]

Commies should be shoved into ovens.

 

[weaselbomber]

anti-communism is cucked. usually it comes from those that want to lick the boots of the rich. "NOOOO NOT THE RICHFAGGORNOS "

>all of it is cucked, because some people who support it come from a cucked POV
bravo

 

[based_meme]

I have yet to hear a single argument (let alone a strong, valid and cogent one) or theory (new or an existing one with a history of explanatory power) for why communism will work. We already have plenty of evidence from history that communism does not work, yet communist ideologues persist and are insistent that it does. This naturally devolves into "no true Scotsman" variations, which probably explains the many various sects and offshoots that are derivatives of Marx's original philosophy.

I ask all of you communists one more time: Why do you think, not believe (arguments, not opinions), that communism will, not should, work?

 

[vigcookie_227oalgo]

workers = incels. most incels are either NEETs or mcdonald wagecucks. richfags like elliot rodgers are an exception

jfl, most of your co-workers would probably have a field day reporting you to HR for even calling yourself an incel

"dudeee you don't understand the chad and normie co workers are just like me! they toootally wouldn't hate me!"

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Tbh
Richfag support should be considered as bluepill posting tbhngl

I have no problem with communism in terms of transferring money from the rich to the poor, the problem of communism is female emancipation.

 

[LeFrenchCel]

I have no problem with communism in terms of transferring money from the rich to the poor, the problem of communism is female emancipation.

A male-oriented communism with anti-simp and anti-whores measures would be based af

 

[blackpillednigga]

jfl, most of your co-workers would probably have a field day reporting you to HR for even calling yourself an incel

"dudeee you don't understand the chad and normie co workers are just like me! they toootally wouldn't hate me!"

obviously not all workers are pro-incel but all incels are workers is my point. the ruling class is more likely to be chad or normies

 

[blackpillednigga]

>all of it is cucked, because some people who support it come from a cucked POV
bravo

it's not some, they're like 70% of anti-communists jfl. just enron musk normie bootlickers

 

[blackpillednigga]

I have yet to hear a single argument (let alone a strong, valid and cogent one) or theory (new or an existing one with a history of explanatory power) for why communism will work. We already have plenty of evidence from history that communism does not work, yet communist ideologues persist and are insistent that it does. This naturally devolves into "no true Scotsman" variations, which probably explains the many various sects and offshoots that are derivatives of Marx's original philosophy.

I ask all of you communists one more time: Why do you think, not believe (arguments, not opinions), that communism will, not should, work?

market socialism has never been fully tested yet besides in yugoslavia which was still partially a command economy. I would say communism defined as a "classless, moneyless society" is still in its experimental phrase and is undergoing a lot of different methods towards establishing this utopia. just because one method (the command economy) doesn't work doesn't discredit the entire ideology. that's what low iq boomers think

Market socialism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Cryotron]

transferring money from the rich to the poor

it's not transferring, in Marxist-Leninist ideology it's the seizure of means of production(plants, factories, etc.) from bourgeoise class

and not all workers are the same from Marxist-Leninist ideology point of view, like for example proletariat are the ones who engage in material production of goods, not some pizza delivery guy or someone who is hired by the owner of the factory to supervise the proletariat. Unfortunately, whatever system you have Jews are at the top always.

 

[Abgesang]

Communism is dead ,only peopel who campion such ideals are celebrities/rich peopel/political class/and racist blue haired peopel with no jobs who drown in soylent.

None of those peopel belong to the ,,Proletariat"

The state of socialism.

All communist were ever good at was opression genocide and destruction of culture and history.

An ideology build upon lies and deception accompanied by mountains of corpses.

 

[weaselbomber]

it's not some, they're like 70% of anti-communists jfl. just enron musk normie bootlickers

and does that 70% somehow make the points of that 30% invalid?

 

[blackpillednigga]

and does that 70% somehow make the points of that 30% invalid?

ive heard all anti-communist points, they're all based on low iq propaganda without understanding the ideology. enron musk kikebertarians hate it because "MUH FREEDUMBS!" while SFcels hate it because "MUH CULTURAL MARXISM" which is an even lower iq myth

 

[weaselbomber]

ive heard all anti-communist points, they're all based on low iq propaganda without understanding the ideology.

Alright, what about the this one: An economy based on preset goals tends to create lower quality products as manufactories focus on reaching/exceeding the quota instead of making something that would be actually have quality, since there is a lack of competition in the market, creating no need for innovation for products, as we've seen in the USSR (ever hear the Soviet joke about how they have the best microchips in the world, since they're the biggest?)
Or this one: the Communist ideology as theorized by Marx was created with the society he lived in in mind, and therefore anything made for the present time is so far away and distant that Marxism in its original form, already unfeasible and utopian, is even more unrealistic. In contrast everything made to suit Communism to a modern setting is so far away from its original intent that it's basically a slightly edgier version of social democracy (Eurocommunism, Bill of Rights Socialism, Market Socialism, even Chinese Socialism)

Also how about the fact that communism is literally designed to tear down traditional societies that came before it? Even after all of the shit that happened in the West, when Germany united once again the East had more working, educated, and opinionated women than the West.

 

[weaselbomber]

Alright, what about the this one: An economy based on preset goals tends to create lower quality products as manufactories focus on reaching/exceeding the quota instead of making something that would be actually have quality, since there is a lack of competition in the market, creating no need for innovation for products, as we've seen in the USSR (ever hear the Soviet joke about how they have the best microchips in the world, since they're the biggest?)
Or this one: the Communist ideology as theorized by Marx was created with the society he lived in in mind, and therefore anything made for the present time is so far away and distant that Marxism in its original form, already unfeasible and utopian, is even more unrealistic. In contrast everything made to suit Communism to a modern setting is so far away from its original intent that it's basically a slightly edgier version of social democracy (Eurocommunism, Bill of Rights Socialism, Market Socialism, even Chinese Socialism)

Also how about the fact that communism is literally designed to tear down traditional societies that came before it? Even after all of the shit that happened in the West, when Germany united once again the East had more working, educated, and opinionated women than the West.

Aso, Marx's idea that history is just "poor vs. rich" is really stupid and reductive.

 

[DarkStar]

ive heard all anti-communist points, they're all based on low iq propaganda without understanding the ideology. enron musk kikebertarians hate it because "MUH FREEDUMBS!" while SFcels hate it because "MUH CULTURAL MARXISM" which is an even lower iq myth

Cultural Marxism is very real, holy fuck

 

[based_meme]

market socialism has never been fully tested yet besides in yugoslavia which was still partially a command economy. I would say communism defined as a "classless, moneyless society" is still in its experimental phrase and is undergoing a lot of different methods towards establishing this utopia. just because one method (the command economy) doesn't work doesn't discredit the entire ideology. that's what low iq boomers think

Market socialism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I did not say anything about market socialism. As I said, I'm referring to Marx's original philosophy. Calling all of the failed iterations of its interpretations under various other "isms," which resulted in campaigned genocides and mass murders of tens of millions in the blink of an eye (relative to the rest of history), as "still in its experimental phase" is a gross downplaying of its practical failures that have resulted in such levels death and chaos.

WHY is communism supposed to work?

I will not lead you on and tell you what to think about, because I want to hear a proactive, not reactive, and well-reasoned answer.

ive heard all anti-communist points,

Then give me the strongest anti-Communist argument you've heard. Steelman the position, if you must. If that helps, then use it as a basis to answer my previous question.

 

[Castaway]

"MUH CULTURAL MARXISM" which is an even lower iq myth

Me when I’ve never read anything by Karl Marx

 

[Abou Baldiaby]

Communism is a classless social system with one form of public ownership of the means of production and with full social equality of all members of society.

Now if we transfer this system to the Chad\Normie\Incel class hierarchy it could be interesting, the government would distribute matchmaking and mating and thus ensure social equality.

 

[weaselbomber]

Me when I’ve never read anything by Karl Marx

"Cultural marxism" is just the right wing's way of describing Gramscian metapolitics.

 

[blackpillednigga]

Alright, what about the this one: An economy based on preset goals tends to create lower quality products as manufactories focus on reaching/exceeding the quota instead of making something that would be actually have quality, since there is a lack of competition in the market, creating no need for innovation for products, as we've seen in the USSR (ever hear the Soviet joke about how they have the best microchips in the world, since they're the biggest?)

this is just a more fancy way of saying the command economy doesn't work which was learned from the USSR and I agree with. but there are other forms of socialism as well such as market socialism which does have competition. overall communism still has a lot to experiment and dismissing it just because one experiment didn't go well is a low iq boomer way of thinking

Or this one: the Communist ideology as theorized by Marx was created with the society he lived in in mind, and therefore anything made for the present time is so far away and distant that Marxism in its original form, already unfeasible and utopian, is even more unrealistic. In contrast everything made to suit Communism to a modern setting is so far away from its original intent that it's basically a slightly edgier version of social democracy (Eurocommunism, Bill of Rights Socialism, Market Socialism, even Chinese Socialism)

his core ideas are still quite relevant. eventually we'll reach a time when the wealth gap grows so large due to industrialization and automation that the common people would be forced to launch an uprising. we will eventually have to replace the current model with one that is more equally distributive to common civilians such as workers owning the means of production rather than capitalists

Also how about the fact that communism is literally designed to tear down traditional societies that came before it? Even after all of the shit that happened in the West, when Germany united once again the East had more working, educated, and opinionated women than the West.

I mean does it matter? I don't care about tradition as much as I just want foids to love me. I doubt many people on here care about tradition as well. I'm all for equality and more education between the sexes as long as women don't become hypergamous or abandon men, which is only happening in the capitalist west such as south korea and USA btw

 

[Castaway]

"Cultural marxism" is just the right wing's way of describing Gramscian metapolitics.

Gramsci's metapolitics is an extension and modification of Marx's own theory of the superstructure. Where they conflict is where they prioritize the proletarianization of society. Marx believed that the economy comes first, then the state and then the superstructure, while Gramsci argued that the superstructure must be taken over first - the prerequisite for the proletarianization of the economy and the state. Overall, both believed in rapid social progress as a necessary and natural component of historical materialism.

 

[weaselbomber]

this is just a more fancy way of saying the command economy doesn't work which was learned from the USSR and I agree with. but there are other forms of socialism as well such as market socialism which does have competition.

Now you're disagreeing with the basic premise of workers owning the means of production, since a free market without private ownership of the means of production is impossible.

overall communism still has a lot to experiment and dismissing it just because one experiment didn't go well is a low iq boomer way of thinking

It's not just "one experiment". The Yugoslav semi-market system failed, the Hungarian NEM failed, the Czechoslovak "Socialism with a Human Face" would've crumbled into an open democracy with a free market eventually, Lenin's NEP would've also failed, Gorbachev's Perestroika failed, Ceaucescu's conservative communism failed, Hoxha's unique brand also failed. There's a trend, something about communism, that makes it not last very long. Maybe it'd be low IQ to ignore all these historical trends, and hide behind the cope that "bro, just ONE more try, we'll get it eventually", when we already have a system that WORKS, even if it should be constricted to a degree (like in China or Nazi Germany)?

his core ideas are still quite relevant. eventually we'll reach a time when the wealth gap grows so large due to industrialization and automation that the common people would be forced to launch an uprising.

That's a retarded take. No one will revolt if we still have food in our plates, decent lives, and some slop to watch and play. Who will care if the wealth inequality has grown so large if you can get an AI girlfriend, and use VR to put yourself into movies? This sort of inevitability breeds complacency and is why you'll never get anywhere hoping for a revolution. It won't happen when our bellies are full and we have enough circus to keep us entertained, because revolting means giving up all of that for the sake of ideology. How many people would care? Not many. Why do you think as the West recovered from WW2 most of its communist movements pivoted away from attempting military revolutions and instead trying to win by the ballot, even before the Prague Spring split?

I mean does it matter? I don't care about tradition as much as I just want foids to love me.

Good news. Tradition will mean that women are in their place, less empowered and more subservient. The best ideology to root for as an incel, I would say.

 

[blackpillednigga]

I did not say anything about market socialism. As I said, I'm referring to Marx's original philosophy.

well his original philosophy was quite simplistic and he never expected his ideology to be mass adopted by revolutionaries. remember the communist manifesto is only 40 pages long and is just "workers overthrowing the capitalists" so consider his ideology like a template ideology that can be modified. that's why there's no state that practices just marxism, but instead marxist-leninism, marxist-maoism, stalinism, etc.

Calling all of the failed iterations of its interpretations under various other "isms," which resulted in campaigned genocides and mass murders of tens of millions in the blink of an eye (relative to the rest of history), as "still in its experimental phase" is a gross downplaying of its practical failures that have resulted in such levels death and chaos.

you have to crack a few eggs to make an omelette. look at the transition from monarchy to democracy. establishing true democracy was not bloodless and there were a lot of trials and errors that lead to mass deaths. imagine if we stopped after weimar germany and said "democracy doesn't work." though it's still tragic how much people died

WHY is communism supposed to work?

I will not lead you on and tell you what to think about, because I want to hear a proactive, not reactive, and well-reasoned answer.

because as I stated earlier eventually we will reach a point where the wealth gap rises due to industrialization and automation. therefore we will have no choice but to overthrow the capitalists and re-establish a model that is more equally distributive

Then give me the strongest anti-Communist argument you've heard. Steelman the position, if you must. If that helps, then use it as a basis to answer my previous question.

the strongest anti-communist argument I've heard and is repeated a lot is mentioning that communism doesn't work because the soviet union and its satelite states tried it in the past but failed. the truth is the command economy was never socialist because the workers did not have any control but the government did. the government wasn't even democratic so all property being public only gave control to bureaucrats rather than workers. what happened was after the revolution, lenin and his comrades did not think things through and thought expanding state control would be "socialist" since the government represents the people. obviously the government does not always act in the interests of workers so this isn't really true.

after WWII USSR made gains that transformed them into a superpower. so the bureaucrats including stalin only symbolically declared themselves as socialists but it was really just russian imperialism. they invaded and installed puppet leaders in other countries to be loyal to the russia state, not workers.

"but you're just saying it's not true socialism?"

correct. not sure what's so controversial about saying it. lenin did not think things through, stalin was a russian imperialist larping as communist, and the puppet leaders did not care about workers. that is not to say that all forms of socialism have been tried and failed, if all companies were owned by workers aka market socialism then we could call that proper socialism.

 

[blackpillednigga]

The Yugoslav semi-market system failed

more like the CIA pressured for war in yugoslavia and took advantage of tito dying to break it up and transform it into becoming capitalist. prior to that the market socialist economy was going quite well

That's a retarded take. No one will revolt if we still have food in our plates, decent lives, and some slop to watch and play. Who will care if the wealth inequality has grown so large if you can get an AI girlfriend, and use VR to put yourself into movies? This sort of inevitability breeds complacency and is why you'll never get anywhere hoping for a revolution. It won't happen when our bellies are full and we have enough circus to keep us entertained, because revolting means giving up all of that for the sake of ideology. How many people would care? Not many. Why do you think as the West recovered from WW2 most of its communist movements pivoted away from attempting military revolutions and instead trying to win by the ballot, even before the Prague Spring split?

Jfl. nobody cares about having AI gfs and video games if you can't get employed. ofc people are gonna revolt. heck look at occupy wall street and the economy wasn't even as bad at the time. people will revolt if they struggle to find jobs since they're being replaced by robots

 

[based_meme]

There's a trend, something about communism, that makes it not last very long.

The reasons are very simple, but I've yet to observe diehard communists be aware of them, let alone acknowledge and address them.

I'll keep looking.

 

[Lonelyus]

Communism stands for women's political rights, women's rights to education and women's right to freely dispose of labor - a woman who is educated and can earn money does not need an average man - in total, average women gather in Chad's harems, since they have no motivation to agree to something less, because they can get an education and to work. Communism is a direct path to incelibacy.
Any communism essentially supports women's rights, since Marx has already laid the foundation of ideology for the desire to bring women into society. All varieties of communism: Leninism, Trotskyism, Stalinism, Maoism, Titoism, and so on are only offshoots of Marx's original thought.

Has a commie in picture

 

[Cryotron]

ofc people are gonna revolt.

people are good at coping, they will sleep on wires and get used to it.

look at occupy wall street and the economy wasn't even as bad at the time.

it was bunch of soyboys, same people who wore muzzles during COVID fake pandemic

 

[Cryotron]

Has a commie in picture

 

[DarkStar]

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That guy is Imperial Russian jfl

people are good at coping, they will sleep on wires and get used to it.

10000%

In fact, I'd say the reason why this site is not more active in this day and age where the blackpill is adjacent to the mainstream and gaining traction, is because most men can cope hard

If not, this place would have like 300-500 active users at t time

it was bunch of soyboys, same people who wore muzzles during COVID fake pandemic

Yup, 100%

Doubtful there were the actual working class amongst them

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

View attachment 1345128

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Pyotr Krasnov - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[DarkStar]

Yeah jfl, that guy clearly is Imperia-era Russian

Do't know who he is, but I can tell from the design of it

 

[Cryotron]

Doubtful there were the actual working class amongst them

there was none

 

[DarkStar]

Pyotr Krasnov - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Didn't know he was a Nazi collaborator, but yet again I don't know much about the guy

This is kinda why I find the whole "General Plan Ost" somewhat hard to believe at times.

 

[DarkStar]

there was none

By "working class" they mean the Starbucks barista who actually is a major in Gender-Studies minoring in African-American language history

 

[blackpillednigga]

people are good at coping, they will sleep on wires and get used to it.

if only 10% of people rose up that would be enough for a successful revolution. quantity is actually quite important when it comes to military conflicts