Yeah, pretty much. When I'm "part" of a conversation, everyone else just winds up talking over me to each other, like I'm somehow not there. And then I just leave when it's clear to me that my presence or not changes nothing.
Same here. I am always talked over, ignored, cut off from what I am saying, or simply derided for even attempting to contribute to the conversation. Group conversations are just worthless for me to even try participating in. Even when it is a 1 on 1 conversation that the other person started, they immediately become disinterested, even if I follow shitty
"advice" and try to speak about their interests/topics, or bounce off of what they say or ask a question.
And it's funny especially when I have something important that the other person NEEDS to know (think like a work or school situation) and I get treated like shit in the conversation. Because then the normans get ANGRY AT ME
! For not telling them some shit when they ignore or deride me! Sometimes they will even try to gaslight and say "Oh you didn't even try to tell me/you didn't say anything!" which is even more hilarious.
It's pointless trying to conversate with normies anyhow. It's not like they will talk about anything interesting or intellectually stimulating. It's not worth the effort
This is also true when it comes to a non-necessity conversation. Typically for normans the conversation goes in circles and only revolves around the latest celebrity gossip, latest show/movie, or latest sports game, with a few shitty jokes sprinkled in. And I am not saying every speech exchange needs to be philosophical or deep, it just shouldn't be bullshit small talk like the normies have.
I should also mention that for a similar reason, many foid conversations are worthless as well, because so many foids literally just talk about things related to how somebody offended them or treated them like shit. They just look for validation and somebody to complain to.