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Brutal Incel trait: Art was your only positive reinforcement growing up

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I don't think I've ever had any normie say anything good about me which wasn't related to a doodle in class.

Foids never gave a shit about my talent either, of course :feelsUgh:
 
you need to remember that art is totally useless as a hobby AI can do it better
 
i've never had any positive reinforcement
 
Like the art I drew for the girl I once loved. It was a rose with her name next to it. When I gave it to her she looked more uncomfortable than anything else, after she rejected me I sobbed when I got home because I spent that entire summer building up the courage to give it to her.
 
you need to remember that art is totally useless as a hobby AI can do it better
Cope

Art is all about expression. It will always be meaningful if you do it for the right reasons.

It should always be for yourself first and foremost.
 
Like the art I drew for the girl I once loved. It was a rose with her name next to it. When I gave it to her she looked more uncomfortable than anything else, after she rejected me I sobbed when I got home because I spent that entire summer building up the courage to give it to her.
I thought about doing something like that as a confession, but I ended up going back on it last second. Your experience would've shattered kid me
 
I thought about doing something like that as a confession, but I ended up going back on it last second. Your experience would've shattered kid me
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It shattered me forever.
 
Dude I'm gonna cry :cryfeels:

I wish romance story logic was real and everyone found love by doing stuff like this
It was all a lie. To her I was nothing but an emotional tampon she leaned on just because her family was good friends with mine, and I supposedly was like a brother to her since we knew each other for many years. It was my aunt’s decision to invite her parents over for each birthday party and family get together, so as I got older my feelings for her grew deeper.

I helped that girl when she needed me. I cared for her like no one else ever has or ever will, I spent every night listening to her tears about how she felt worthless, and I told her that she was priceless. Did I expect her to love me in return, yes. But not out of entitlement, but out of longing.

Long story short she had decided to reject me and go back to dating the boy who previously cheated on her for another girl, and that devastated me. I spent years obsessing over her until my mind began deteriorating. Imagine meeting your soulmate but you can’t be with her due to your genetic setbacks?

That boy she chose, she eventually dumped him because he was “too obsessed with her” according to my aunt. Sounds like even if I was good enough to be with her she would’ve done the same thing to me. Then she went off to college and starting dating a 6’1 dude with blue hunter eyes who she is still dating to this day I believe.

I wasted 7 years of my life over something that never truly existed for me. It costed me my happiness, my education, and she is the reason for every self destructive habit I have. I am rotting on this forum mainly because of her. I’ve had arguably more brutal experiences with women who rejected me, but I wasn’t as deeply in love with them as I was with her, not even 5%. This is why what she did to me will scar me for life. This was no random girl, it was a girl who felt like family, led me on, and I received nothing from her in the end after all that I had done for her.

So the hateful man I’ve become, the disgusting things I say about women, and the misanthropic attitude I have about this world all goes back to her rejection of me. I once loved a girl more than anything else in this entire world with all of my heart and soul, the purest and most innocent love I’ve ever known, and somehow she has caused me so much pain that I have been reduced to a man full of rage who can laugh at any woman who suffers.

That is a beautifully tragic perversion of my very soul, a monster she has created. Why did she have to kill me? Why did she kill that boy? The boy who loved her so much. I don’t even know who I am anymore and quite frankly my life will never be as beautiful as it was when I thought I had a chance with her.

So fuck foids, all of the stupid cunts shouldn’t have rights.
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I can relate. I was inclined towards art when I was a kid. I was also a fairly decent artist for my age. The only compliments I've ever received had to do with my art.
 
It was all a lie. To her I was nothing but an emotional tampon she leaned on just because her family was good friends with mine, and I supposedly was like a brother to her since we knew each other for many years. It was my aunt’s decision to invite her parents over for each birthday party and family get together, so as I got older my feelings for her grew deeper.

I helped that girl when she needed me. I cared for her like no one else ever has or ever will, I spent every night listening to her tears about how she felt worthless, and I told her that she was priceless. Did I expect her to love me in return, yes. But not out of entitlement, but out of longing.

Long story short she had decided to reject me and go back to dating the boy who previously cheated on her for another girl, and that devastated me. I spent years obsessing over her until my mind began deteriorating. Imagine meeting your soulmate but you can’t be with her due to your genetic setbacks?

That boy she chose, she eventually dumped him because he was “too obsessed with her” according to my aunt. Sounds like even if I was good enough to be with her she would’ve done the same thing to me. Then she went off to college and starting dating a 6’1 dude with blue hunter eyes who she is still dating to this day I believe.

I wasted 7 years of my life over something that never truly existed for me. It costed me my happiness, my education, and she is the reason for every self destructive habit I have. I am rotting on this forum mainly because of her. I’ve had arguably more brutal experiences with women who rejected me, but I wasn’t as deeply in love with them as I was with her, not even 5%. This is why what she did to me will scar me for life. This was no random girl, it was a girl who felt like family, led me on, and I received nothing from her in the end after all that I had done for her.

So the hateful man I’ve become, the disgusting things I say about women, and the misanthropic attitude I have about this world all goes back to her rejection of me. I once loved a girl more than anything else in this entire world with all of my heart and soul, the purest and most innocent love I’ve ever known, and somehow she has caused me so much pain that I have been reduced to a man full of rage who can laugh at any woman who suffers.

That is a beautifully tragic perversion of my very soul, a monster she has created. Why did she have to kill me? Why did she kill that boy? The boy who loved her so much. I don’t even know who I am anymore and quite frankly my life will never be as beautiful as it was when I thought I had a chance with her.

So fuck foids, all of the stupid cunts shouldn’t have rights.
Guts GIF

 
It was all a lie. To her I was nothing but an emotional tampon she leaned on just because her family was good friends with mine, and I supposedly was like a brother to her since we knew each other for many years. It was my aunt’s decision to invite her parents over for each birthday party and family get together, so as I got older my feelings for her grew deeper.

I helped that girl when she needed me. I cared for her like no one else ever has or ever will, I spent every night listening to her tears about how she felt worthless, and I told her that she was priceless. Did I expect her to love me in return, yes. But not out of entitlement, but out of longing.

Long story short she had decided to reject me and go back to dating the boy who previously cheated on her for another girl, and that devastated me. I spent years obsessing over her until my mind began deteriorating. Imagine meeting your soulmate but you can’t be with her due to your genetic setbacks?

That boy she chose, she eventually dumped him because he was “too obsessed with her” according to my aunt. Sounds like even if I was good enough to be with her she would’ve done the same thing to me. Then she went off to college and starting dating a 6’1 dude with blue hunter eyes who she is still dating to this day I believe.

I wasted 7 years of my life over something that never truly existed for me. It costed me my happiness, my education, and she is the reason for every self destructive habit I have. I am rotting on this forum mainly because of her. I’ve had arguably more brutal experiences with women who rejected me, but I wasn’t as deeply in love with them as I was with her, not even 5%. This is why what she did to me will scar me for life. This was no random girl, it was a girl who felt like family, led me on, and I received nothing from her in the end after all that I had done for her.

So the hateful man I’ve become, the disgusting things I say about women, and the misanthropic attitude I have about this world all goes back to her rejection of me. I once loved a girl more than anything else in this entire world with all of my heart and soul, the purest and most innocent love I’ve ever known, and somehow she has caused me so much pain that I have been reduced to a man full of rage who can laugh at any woman who suffers.

That is a beautifully tragic perversion of my very soul, a monster she has created. Why did she have to kill me? Why did she kill that boy? The boy who loved her so much. I don’t even know who I am anymore and quite frankly my life will never be as beautiful as it was when I thought I had a chance with her.

So fuck foids, all of the stupid cunts shouldn’t have rights.
Guts GIF

Quality post. Very well written. Thanks for sharing.

IMO these were the most brutal parts as I can relate to them:

Did I expect her to love me in return, yes. But not out of entitlement, but out of longing.

Well said. I hate how people says we act like we're "entitled" to women. In reality we have the same longing for romantic companionship like everyone else.


I wasted 7 years of my life over something that never truly existed for me. It costed me my happiness, my education, and she is the reason for every self destructive habit I have.

Same with me. I've also wasted precious years of my life -- 10+ years -- on one very specific girl. She rejected me to go be with a tall Chad. It was during that time that I developed alcoholism and serious depression. To me, she was the center of my world. But to her, I was just another face in the crowd. Unrequited love is simply brutal.

I am rotting on this forum mainly because of her. I’ve had arguably more brutal experiences with women who rejected me, but I wasn’t as deeply in love with them as I was with her, not even 5%. This is why what she did to me will scar me for life

Same with me. I've been rejected by other girls too but it didn't hurt as much because they never actually cared about me. But that one girl I talked about earlier was different. She was nice to me initially and didn't mind talking to me. She made me feel like a normal human being, which led me to foolishly think she liked me romantically. This is what happens when you never experience positive attention from a female. You mistake basic kindness for romantic affection.
 
Same with me. I've been rejected by other girls too but it didn't hurt as much because they never actually cared about me. But that one girl I talked about earlier was different. She was nice to me initially and didn't mind talking to me. She made me feel like a normal human being, which led me to foolishly think she liked me romantically. This is what happens when you never experience positive attention from a female. You mistake basic kindness for romantic affection.
Brutal, so you’ve shared my kind of pain. The fact that women must be so kind and beautiful to a deprived man even platonically is a joke, it gives the man a false sense of hope because women don’t even realize that their kindness can cause a man to fall deeply in love with them. What’s brutal is the fact that their kindess for men they aren’t sexually attracted to is no where near the way they act around Chad. With Chad they become horny sexual deviants and the sappy shit goes flying out the window. If a foid isn’t treating you like shit and actually being nice to you, it’s always platonic. Women have no idea how hurtful they just by existing sometimes.
 
I double-majored in both art and histology when I was an undergrad. I was surprisingly popular in the art department, but it was also known among all of the other students in the art department that I "had issues".

While my art was admired and I was "the smart guy" in school, even my female friends at the time set their limits as to what they did with me which is why I was never considered to be anything beyond "platonic" for various reasons. My mental illness made romantic relationships impossible in high school with the aide hovering around, and even though I was not being watched anymore, people who knew about my dermatillomania in college were still very guarded around me even if they were sympathetic as to my circumstances.

It does not matter how much you are admired in other areas if people are afraid of you no matter what you do.
 
I double-majored in both art and histology when I was an undergrad. I was surprisingly popular in the art department, but it was also known among all of the other students in the art department that I "had issues".

While my art was admired and I was "the smart guy" in school, even my female friends at the time set their limits as to what they did with me which is why I was never considered to be anything beyond "platonic" for various reasons. My mental illness made romantic relationships impossible in high school with the aide hovering around, and even though I was not being watched anymore, people who knew about my dermatillomania in college were still very guarded around me even if they were sympathetic as to my circumstances.

It does not matter how much you are admired in other areas if people are afraid of you no matter what you do.
There's only one real reason why it never goes beyond platonic

At least drawing is still a fun cope regardless
 
I used to draw as a kid but dropped that down cuz life just got worse and couldn't cope with it even as a kid before puberty.
 
I once drew a very good picture and the art teacher announced to the class and praised and I still remember this. I was also good at math. Now I suck at basically everything
 
It should've been mine; if only i learned to be a drawcel many years back
 
Quite the opposite. I get art mogged which only fucks me up even more. It’s gotten to the point where I avoid anything art related because the comparison to my own is just too fucking brutal.
 
being complimented by the same ones who shit talked me in earshot (i responded ‘i know but your standards for appreciation in anything don’t matter (faggots)’) i realized normoids have no pervading sense of overt budding/reformative value as accorded to their transpicuous milestones wanting to acknowledge the remotely surreal and whatever they say or do to mask that holds no weight. so if someone praised and hyped them around me it’d be a big unamusing din, lame as fuck and checked out long ago. when you enjoy it regardless of that fact is it means you do it because you genuinely like it and find rewarding even if you’re your worst harsh critic. it’s the best one imo
 
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remember this one time some chad scumbag found my sketchbook and for no fucking reason just started scribbling all over them, and then had the audacity to tell the teacher I was drawing "satanic stuff" (I was not, it was all just all like videogame enemies and like dinosaurs or whatever lol) in the end I never got my sketchbook back and the asshole now has a loving wife and a successful career
 
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the only art i like and can do is graff but its pretty fucking useless because its illegal
 
Brutal, so you’ve shared my kind of pain. The fact that women must be so kind and beautiful to a deprived man even platonically is a joke, it gives the man a false sense of hope because women don’t even realize that their kindness can cause a man to fall deeply in love with them.

Yes. Looking back I wish she had just ignored or outright rejected me like all the other girls. It would have been easier to recover from. Instead, she was nice to me, which filled my head with false hope and made me waste years of my life.

What’s brutal is the fact that their kindess for men they aren’t sexually attracted to is no where near the way they act around Chad. With Chad they become horny sexual deviants and the sappy shit goes flying out the window.

Exactly. The girl I liked was always shy and reserved most of the time. But the moment Chad started showing interest in her, I saw a whole new side of her.

Whenever he was around, she became more talkative and giggly. She also let him flirt with her (which he did a lot).

She also changed her looks. She originally had that "plain" look with minimal styling and basic clothes like jeans and t-shirts. But after Chad showed up in her life, she started making herself look more attractive by styling her hair, applying make up and wearing more feminine clothes.

I fucking HATED that she changed so much just for him. It made me feel like a complete subhuman.

If a foid isn’t treating you like shit and actually being nice to you, it’s always platonic. Women have no idea how hurtful they just by existing sometimes.

Yes. It's like they just see you as a brother or a friend. It's so damn emasculating.
 
Yes. It's like they just see you as a brother or a friend. It's so damn emasculating.
That girl I wrote about, that is exactly what she called me at one point. She said I was like a brother to her but I don’t think girls realize how brutal that kind of statement can be.

What also hurt me the most and caused me years of longing and confusion was the fact that even after she rejected me I had to see her at parties my family would throw, so seeing the love of your life who rejected you laughing and talking in the same room as your own flesh and blood feels too personal.

Because I was close to my family, seeing her with them and talking to them as if she was a member of the family herself made it feel like she had already established a deeper connection with me since my family members are extensions of me in a way. She was like a family member but she wasn’t so it was okay for me to have feelings for her, so obviously falling deeply in love with a girl like that is bound to happen.

She wasn’t like other girls to me because she was the only girl my age who was nice to me and I only saw her when I was around my family since she lived in a different city and went to another school, and the girls at my school were better looking than her but they were all terrible people, and I fell in love the plainness she had about herself, how she wasn’t bitch like the other girls and actually acknowledged my existence.

So when she eventually rejected me it was brutal. I should include an important detail which is the fact that she rejected me once, and then she rejected me again a year and a half later and that’s when I gave her that drawing. Her demeanor was far colder and her eyes looked empty that year and a half later compared to the sweet girl I once knew. That’s why I cried so hard that night, I had such a beautiful vision of her reciprocating my feelings because I thought she was the only girl who saw me for me, and she felt like a soulmate to me.

I spent 3 months building up my courage to speak to her that night, and the night I spoke to her I was terrified. I couldn’t eat breakfast that morning due to anxiety induced nausea and I didn’t eat a thing for many hours into the day. I was like a puddle of piss, sitting there and watching this girl who wasn’t being as half as friendly with me as she once did before rejecting me, and I finally built up the courage to speak to her.

The entire encounter was extremely brutal, I was stuttering the entire time I was trying to confess my feelings yet again, and she was speaking to me the way a special ed teacher would speak to her down syndrome student and explain to him why the easter bunny isn’t real. She was trying to soften the blow of her rejection as much as she could which made it even more awkward and in turn even more brutal.

So months after that, I had to see her at my cousin’s birthday party again, and then at my cousin’s communion at church, both communions for both cousins an entire year apart. Each time I saw her the days leading up to it were the most cope fueled and simultaneously the most anxiety inducing of my life, and every time I would see her my heart would beat rapidly and I would be absolutely infatuated with her. Every time I had to go home empty handed knowing that I never got to speak a word to her was devastating.

After years of obsessing over her, I got nuts. I was going to go fucking insane because I couldn’t understand what it was about this girl that was taking such a heavy toll on my mental health as well as if I was going to have her stuck in my head for the rest of my life. Eventually it got so bad I honestly considered suicide. That’s when I made one of the worst mistakes I could make, I told her. I sent her a long paragraph after adding her on Snapchat (I blocked her before after she rejected me) about how she had ruined my life because I was so deeply infatuated with her and it caused my life to go downhill. I told her about my suicidal thoughts and I told her I was going to kill myself right then and there.

So after I sent the initial message I assumed I got blocked naturally. I was blaming everything on her and normies can find that immoral and wrong if they want but I don’t give a flying fuck anymore, too much pain has been brought upon my life over that girl. Anyway I got really angry that same day because I got into a fight with my mom over the girl, and smashed something and she screamed at the top of her lungs and told me to get out, so I did.

I took a long walk to my friend’s house and I decided to hang out at his place for a bit. Eventually he has a pipe he uses to smoke weed and he asks me if I want to take a hit. I do it without thinking and I start coughing like my lungs would fall out, and after that I just remember disassociating completely and experiencing a mini ego death. I was completely terrified and I had tunnel vision, and my perception of reality is still altered because of that day. It was single handedly the most horrific moment of my life because the weed was laced with pure THC extract so it was much MUCH stronger.

Because my mind was in a daze and I was so miserable, two days later or so I send the girl another message similar to the last one, this time truly emphasizing that all of this pain going on in my life, including the life changing drug experience, was all her fault. Word for word I said I was going to take my own life, and if she thought she was capable of preventing something like that from happening then go ahead, the clock is ticking. Just as I was contemplating if I really wanted to end my life because of this girl, my mother’s landline phone begins ringing. This was around 5-10 minutes after I initially sent the message and I was watching Angry Grandpa videos on YouTube in attempt to comfort myself.

My mother picks up the phone and it ends up being my aunt, the aunt that is friends with this girl’s mother. My aunt was screaming at my mother as my mother shockingly put the phone on speaker and started walking in the direction of my room so I could hear it, and I didn’t have a door at the time so I immediately heard it.

My aunt said “TELL your son, TO STOP” and basically started having a nervous breakdown herself telling my mother everything that I had just said to the girl in the message, as if in that 5 minute timeframe she immediately screenshot the message and sent it to my aunt before calling her up. My aunt said to my mom that I was “fucking obsessed” and that I’m a “fucking psycho”. She then said “he’s a psychopath” to her in a tone that sounded as if she was 100% seeing me as some sort of monster and seeing the girl who tormented my mind for years as the victim just because she is her friend’s daughter.

By this point I was absolutely shitting my pants, but I honestly don’t know what else I expected. I was crying my eyes out as my aunt spoke to me on the phone and started going on and on with her voice being muffled by her own tears and the loudness of her voice muffling the microphone within the phone, and she was saying “she didn’t do anything” when no one understood that she had did something to lead me on and make me fall so deeply in love with her years ago and then she threw me away like trash. I eventually hung up the phone on my aunt and I smashed the phone onto the kitchen floor before sobbing my eyes out, as it turned out the girl’s family threatened me with the police, even though I made no direct threats to her or told her I was going to harm her, I was stating the fact that I was going to harm myself because of her, which I suppose is enough in this gynocentric shit hole of a world for people to see you as a manipulative psychopathic monster and see her as the victim. She allegedly called my aunt shaking and crying after what she read from me. Those are only a fraction of the tears I have cried for her all of those years.

This incident with the messages happened in 2022, nearly three years after the time I gave her the drawing in 2019. In 2023 her father again threatened to pursue legal action against me because I was stalking her social media and I liked one of her posts for some reason. This one was on me, I was in a dark place and I was trying to freak her out on purpose but once the idea of the law getting involved happened I immediately stopped because I was shitting myself over it like the pathetic sack of shit I am. Anyway I will never bother her again, but that doesn’t mean I won’t forget or forgive the turmoil she has caused me all of these years. The total timeframe between the moment my first non platonic feelings for her crossed my mind to now is nearly 8 years. Half of that time was full of loving her with all of my heart, and the past 4 years has been the love becoming hatred. Hatred for the easy live she got to live because of her wealthy parents, hatred for female nature itself after learning redpill and then finally blackpill which makes the redpill look bluepill. I had hatred for the fact that I was suffering while she was happy, not knowing the full extent of the confusion and pain she has caused me.

So I genuinely think that I will think about her every single day for the rest of my life, even decades down the line if I even make it that far. It is my beautifully perfect tragedy that I will never let go of, and it is my origin story. I would say she created a monster but the truth is that I’m a loser who is too afraid to look a woman in the eyes let alone be intimidating. I am a pathetic man who wallows in self pity over a girl who I didn’t even have the chance to date, and even my family thought it was so strange how I could be so in love with this girl. It’s because she led me on more than they know, and it messed with my heart big time.

She completely ruined my life. I guess all I am trying to do now is pick up the pieces of what’s left and glue them back together again. The final product if I can manage to fix my life is a man who will never be the same but at least I learned something from it, that all women are EVIL. I spend enough time on my phone to know that anyways, and anyone who says social media isn’t real life is coping, but I digress.

If I could go back to the time before I was so in love with her I would, I was so much happier because I still had my innocence. Oh well, time to rot on this forum until I reach paragon while the girl whom I thought was the love of my life gets her back blown out at college by a guy who is half a foot taller than me.
 
I don't think I've ever had any normie say anything good about me which wasn't related to a doodle in class.

Foids never gave a shit about my talent either, of course :feelsUgh:
Well i suck at art just like i suck at anything else
 
I suck at art

I am completely talentless
 
It was hard for me to pay attention in class growing up, so yah.. I drew a lot. Drew a lot of Spider-Man and Power Rangers on my homework and such. Got in trouble a lot because of it. Anyways, that never changed, since I"m a full-time artist nowadays, altho it's for money more-so than for fun. But yah, compared to anything else in my life which I was terrible at, art was the only thing that kept me going.
 
I was never good at drawing. The worst part is that my father knew how to draw and paint, but I didn't inherit any of that talent. I'm like someone with no talent and very clumsy.
 
you need to remember that art is totally useless as a hobby AI can do it better
Most hobbies are not useful and don't make any money. You think model railway enthusiasts make any money out of their hobby unless they're selling locos or scenery? You think most viddie game players are making oodles of cash like fortnite ninja? Hobbies are copes, they don't NEED to be useful.
 
no, as truecel I'm absolutely talentless, everything I do is out of spite
 
Most hobbies are not useful and don't make any money. You think model railway enthusiasts make any money out of their hobby unless they're selling locos or scenery? You think most viddie game players are making oodles of cash like fortnite ninja? Hobbies are copes, they don't NEED to be useful.
im just saying if you are gonna have a hobby you should learn comfy UI instead of drawing
 
I wish I could draw, I really want to try my hand out at making manga, but bests I could do is a shitty stickman
 

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