Calvinism's 5th point, "perseverance of the saints", is basically: if you're truly an "elect" (they believe God already chose who was gonna get saved and who was gonna go to hell before the world was created), you'll persevere in the faith; i.e. you won't apostatate, you'll have good works, you won't sin (above a certain quota and/or not as seriously I guess, since everybody sins, even after converting; anyway, it doestn't make much sense to me).
So if you call yourself a Christian but apostatate, or keep sinning (again, too much, or too seriously, etc) and not having good works, that just means you're not an "elect" and was never saved to begin with according to most calvinists.
Similarly, some incels say: "if you ever ascend, that just means you were a fakecel all along". I won't even say I disagree, I'll just say it's very debatable because things like the very definition of who's an incel (how ugly you must be, how short, how virgin, how old, how low in standards, how dedicated to ascend, etc) is very complicated.
I personally believe that someone who was not an incel while young can become one with age due to the looks drop or due to an accident or something, even if he had sex or relationships before. The opposite scenario is certainly rarer, but not impossible.
Also, a thought that comes to my mind is: if a female guest/IT member wants some incel here to get banned, all she has to do is start to pretend she's interested in him publicly, perhaps claiming to have already seen his pic as well. Then a mob of angry people here will say: "See? He was a fakecel all along!", and depending on how things progress, he can be banned if he's not smart about how to handle the situation (i.e. falling for it an actually exchanging loving messages with her that can later be made public).
So if you call yourself a Christian but apostatate, or keep sinning (again, too much, or too seriously, etc) and not having good works, that just means you're not an "elect" and was never saved to begin with according to most calvinists.
Similarly, some incels say: "if you ever ascend, that just means you were a fakecel all along". I won't even say I disagree, I'll just say it's very debatable because things like the very definition of who's an incel (how ugly you must be, how short, how virgin, how old, how low in standards, how dedicated to ascend, etc) is very complicated.
I personally believe that someone who was not an incel while young can become one with age due to the looks drop or due to an accident or something, even if he had sex or relationships before. The opposite scenario is certainly rarer, but not impossible.
Also, a thought that comes to my mind is: if a female guest/IT member wants some incel here to get banned, all she has to do is start to pretend she's interested in him publicly, perhaps claiming to have already seen his pic as well. Then a mob of angry people here will say: "See? He was a fakecel all along!", and depending on how things progress, he can be banned if he's not smart about how to handle the situation (i.e. falling for it an actually exchanging loving messages with her that can later be made public).
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