In Thailand at last buddy boyos

[Twisted]

Today was the day that all my dreams came true.

Will post a full update later.

I wish I had the money to move out of the UK and finally be happy like you

 

[itsOVER]

OK the promised update now I have a few hours spare.

Met up with that 17 year old. She was cute. Not a Stacy but very bangable. She had previously invited me back to her parents place to spend the night (we hadn't met in person yet, this invitation just came when we were chatting online). I thought well, let's go for it and see what happens.

Once there...well, let's just say they were the typical conservative Thai family. Separate beds were a must (even the mother and the father slept in seperate beds, lol). They were nice enough, gave me lots of food and drink etc, but yeah, I thought the night was pretty much just gonna end up with hand holding only (although we did make out in the bus on the way to her parents house so I know she was up for it).

We went to watch a movie in her room, and her mum was right next door (with the frickin door open). Eventually the mum fell asleep, and the girl started to initiate. We did everything except have sex - I fingered her, we made out, she sucked my dick etc. Quite a dangerous game with the parents right next door but the situation and the danger was so hot.

In the morning I had a massive slice of luck - her parents were going to the buddist temple. So Buddha, praise be his name, was about to help me to get laid. They were gone for an hour and in that time we banged twice. Had to be real quiet though not to alert her sister in the other room.

Later that morning, we told her parents that we were going to get lunch together. Instead, we took a taxi to my room and had sex twice more. Even got to fuck her anally. She's from a conservative Thai family but says she doesn't agree with a lot of Thai culture.

Youngest girl I've ever banged, and I guess it goes some small way to making up for not getting high school chicks back in those days. I'm obviously gonna be meeting up with her again, though we've gotta keep it secret and can't meet too much because of her parents. They know we're 'bf and gf' but they're extremely conservative and overprotective of her. Thankfully she's not like that at all - she kissed me first, initiated with the makeout, although in the morning I was the one who took the final step of getting her clothes off and banging her - there was no protest at all though, just an acknowledgement from us both that it was a risky thing to do. I'll never fucking forget it though!

But yes, the bottom line is - it IS possible to get 'prime females' here.

(Fuck off cucktears users reading this, age of consent in Thailand is 15, age of consent in my country is 16, and unlike the U.S., my country doesn't have some cucked law saying you can't have sex with anyone under 18 when abroad. Get rekt).

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need pics to asses

Anyone who asked for pics of all five foids has now been sent them.
Again, don't think I missed anyone out, but if I did just let me know and I'll resend.

need em too. send em

Anyone who asked for pics of all five foids has now been sent them.
Again, don't think I missed anyone out, but if I did just let me know and I'll resend.

i never got them

All sent. At this point I'm just adding the foids that I shagged to the existing mail that I send to anyone who asks, so if let's say I sent you a mail when I was up to 4 foids, just scroll down until you reach the links for the 5th and 6th foids. Unfortunately due to the volume of people asking for pics I don't have time to type out an individual mail each time so I'm just updating my existing template now.

 

[CopingGymcel]

What kind of family let's an oldcel hang out with their teen daughter, LOL.

Anyway, nice one

You are in Thailand fucking JBs, meanwhile I am slowly killing myself with DNP, just so that I can impress some 4/10 bar slut in a hypergamous hell hole.

Did you see my thread on Manila? Like 10 times as easy as Thailand, lol. You should visit there next.

Send pic of your latest slays, btw.

 

[plutomoon]

Damn, this is some serious inspo. Send pics pls 

 

[itsOVER]

What kind of family let's an oldcel hang out with their teen daughter, LOL.

Anyway, nice one

You are in Thailand fucking JBs, meanwhile I am slowly killing myself with DNP, just so that I can impress some 4/10 bar slut in a hypergamous hell hole.

Did you see my thread on Manila? Like 10 times as easy as Thailand, lol. You should visit there next.

Send pic of your latest slays, btw.

Well, it's not really taboo in the same way it is in the west for fairly large age gaps between couples. But they were definitely a no sex before marriage type thinking family - they still think their daughter is a virgin even though she actually lost it at 14, lol!

Will send now. Just scroll to the last links like I said - all the foids are in order...think you've already seen the first 3 or 4.

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Damn, this is some serious inspo. Send pics pls

Sent.

 

[CopingGymcel]

Well, it's not really taboo in the same way it is in the west for fairly large age gaps between couples. But they were definitely a no sex before marriage type thinking family - they still think their daughter is a virgin even though she actually lost it at 14, lol!

Will send now. Just scroll to the last links like I said - all the foids are in order...think you've already seen the first 3 or 4.

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Sent.

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Living the dream.

 

[itsOVER]

Living the dream.

It's not even necessarily that the JB is the hottest girl I've ever banged for free in my life (I don't think she is anyway). It's just the fact that I actually got to do it...albeit 10 years later on from the ideal.

Nice to prove to everyone that you can get a decent enough JB girlfriend here though.

I probably won't be racking up as many numbers now as I have been the last 12 days. Wouldn't expect a going-forward average of a new girl every couple of days anyway, as I'm gonna be spending quite a bit of time with this current girl. I feel the point has already been made that you can slay if you come to Thailand with a decent plan of action anyway. Partly for my own frickin development to become a slightly less bitter human being about high school days, I think it's important that I fuck this current girl as much as possible. And she does anal as well (she was the one who asked for it!), so...I feel that will serve my interests more than trying to find new PSL 4's to shag every night.

The whole trip has been very blackpilling though. I always knew looks were massively important but as I never 'slayed' at any time in my life, rather just settling down into relationships as quickly as possible...I never fucking realised how important they were. Now I know, for example, it doesn't even matter what you do or say on a date providing the girl thinks you're attractive. JFL at not being at least a Chadlite in 2018. I've had conversations with girls about facial asthetics, gymcelling being cope, and getting a job being for losers. The ones that were acting interested before were still interested even after I dropped those autism bombs.

 

[CopingGymcel]

It's not even necessarily that the JB is the hottest girl I've ever banged for free in my life (I don't think she is anyway). It's just the fact that I actually got to do it...albeit 10 years later on from the ideal.

Nice to prove to everyone that you can get a decent enough JB girlfriend here though.

I probably won't be racking up as many numbers now as I have been the last 12 days. Wouldn't expect a going-forward average of a new girl every couple of days anyway, as I'm gonna be spending quite a bit of time with this current girl. I feel the point has already been made that you can slay if you come to Thailand with a decent plan of action anyway. Partly for my own frickin development to become a slightly less bitter human being about high school days, I think it's important that I fuck this current girl as much as possible. And she does anal as welll (she was the one who asked for it!), so...I feel that will serve my interests more than trying to find new PSL 4's to shag every night.

At least she can't get pregnant if you fuck her in the butt.

 

[itsOVER]

At least she can't get pregnant if you fuck her in the butt.

Well I'm fucking her in the pussy too ofc.

 

[CopingGymcel]

Well I'm fucking her in the pussy too ofc.

Slayer.



I hope I can lose my virginity when I am done cutting. My face is looking leaner by the day now. Cheeks hollow as fuark and ramus the most defined it has ever been and still got 2 weeks left on DNP, so that should be another 12-14lbs.

Sex sounds like a lot of fun.

 

[GeneticalRecomb]

I checked pics... A few cuties but last girls are meh. Also you're nowhere incel just a failed Norman The Normie.

White
Proportional face
NW1
NT facial expression


I'm white and with receding hairline = even asian girls looked with disgust while I was in Thailand

 

[itsOVER]

Slayer.



I hope I can lose my virginity when I am done cutting. My face is looking leaner by the day now. Cheeks hollow as fuark and ramus the most defined it has ever been and still got 2 weeks left on DNP, so that should be another 12-14lbs.

Sex sounds like a lot of fun.

That's one bad thing about Thailand - I really don't know how much I'm fucking eating, as you don't get any calorie or macros information from food cart street sellers of course, which is the way pretty much everyone eats in Thailand.

Like obviously I know if I go have a big mac and coke that's me screwed for the day, but with the normal street food it's hard to know what would constitute 500 kcal under maintenance. And I still have a long way to go to get down to 10% bodyfat, which may or may not render a significant improvement to my face, but it'd be stupid not to try. It's certainly easier to cut in the west where labels on all the food tell you exactly what you're eating.

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I checked pics... A few cuties but last girls are meh. Also you're nowhere incel just a failed Norman The Normie.

White
Proportional face
NW1
NT facial expression


I'm white and with receding hairline = even asian girls looked with disgust while I was in Thailand

This is, as I mentioned in the PM, the problem with being on vacation rather than living there. You have to push pretty hard for the lays quickly, and don't have time to invest in higher quality girls (which still don't take a long time...let's say 2 to 3 weeks...but it's time you just don't have if you're only there 2 or 3 weeks to begin with). This'll result in you not shagging too many cuties, even though with a bit more time those same girls could well have ended up in your bed.

And remember, no one ever said I was OK looking before this thread was made. Slayer halo + cope from full time rotters who would rather believe it's impossible to take action.

But NW1? Bro have you even looked at my hairline?

 

[845889524]

I know a dude who's oneitis cheated with his best friend and for the last 10 or so years he has just gone to Thailand to fuck traps and is MGTOW

Would kill myself

 

[GeneticalRecomb]

That's one bad thing about Thailand - I really don't know how much I'm fucking eating, as you don't get any calorie or macros information from food cart street sellers of course, which is the way pretty much everyone eats in Thailand.

Like obviously I know if I go have a big mac and coke that's me screwed for the day, but with the normal street food it's hard to know what would constitute 500 kcal under maintenance. And I still have a long way to go to get down to 10% bodyfat, which may or may not render a significant improvement to my face, but it'd be stupid not to try. It's certainly easier to cut in the west where labels on all the food tell you exactly what you're eating.

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This is, as I mentioned in the PM, the problem with being on vacation rather than living there. You have to push pretty hard for the lays quickly, and don't have time to invest in higher quality girls (which still don't take a long time...let's say 2 to 3 weeks...but it's time you just don't have if you're only there 2 or 3 weeks to begin with). This'll result in you not shagging too many cuties, even though with a bit more time those same girls could well have ended up in your bed.

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Cope. I was living there for a few years.

I tried to make dates via Tinder. One girl called me ugly and short (I am 5''9) another one excused and blocked after seeing candid face on LINE video. Another one didn't come to the "date". Also all of them mega social. You MUST be NT to communicate with them.

Again, for slaying in Thailand you need:
1. NW1
2. 170cm+
3. typical western face

 

[CopingGymcel]

And remember, no one ever said I was OK looking before this thread was made. Slayer halo + cope from full time rotters who would rather believe it's impossible to take action.

But NW1? Bro have you even looked at my hairline?

Retards be retarding. Same shit happens over at lookism. Some guy posts a pic of some below average looking guy next to a hot female and everyone overrates by 2 points.

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Again, for slaying in Thailand you need:
1. NW1
2. 170cm+
3. typical western face

Keep coping. You're just extremely ugly, while OP is below average in the west, but not ugly tier. OP has never claimed to be a truecel.

 

[itsOVER]

Cope. I was living there for a few years.

I tried to make dates via Tinder. One girl called me ugly and short (I am 5''9) another one excused and blocked after seeing candid face on LINE video. Another one didn't come to the "date". Also all of them mega social. You MUST be NT to communicate with them.

Again, for slaying in Thailand you need:
1. NW1
2. 170cm+
3. typical western face

You don't need to be NT at all buddy boyo. My conversation topics on dates are lookism and my hatred of wagecucking. If they're interested it doesn't mean a damn what you say. And I never go out to nightclubs alone - I consider them, as someone once excellently put on this forum, like a Jew going to attend a Hitler rally if you're not NT.

I'm not NW1, this is a question of objective fact, not opinion. I've had several consultations with surgerons who say I need between 2000-2500 grafts to restore my natural hairline.

Dunno what a typical western face is supposed to look like, but no one ever claimed I was above a 4/10 before this thread was made. Sounds like high inhib cope  from rotters to convince themselves not to take action.

You think I've not had girls fail to show up, or show up 30+ minutes late? You think I've got interest from every girl I've ever been on a date with in Thailand? Nope. The batting average is a TON higher than in the west though.

Maybe you actually do have PSL2 or below looks and yeah in that case, you're fucked, best go ER. But a lot of PSL3-5's could benefit from going to Asia.

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Retards be retarding. Same shit happens over at lookism. Some guy posts a pic of some below average looking guy next to a hot female and everyone overrates by 2 points.

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Keep coping. You're just extremely ugly, while OP is below average in the west, but not ugly tier. OP has never claimed to be a truecel.

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Yeah. And as for a self-proclaimed truecel complaining that the girls aren't up to his standards...well that's really no different from a 5/10 western roastie who only wants to date 8/10 Chads.

I know that the girls on this trip aren't that hot, especially compared to the ones I got when living here. But that's always going to be the case unless you're an actual western Chad, since time pressure calls for different strategies to be used.

With that said, I think the third girl I got with was pretty decent. The fifth girl was OK, and the sixth girl has a pretty decent face and only weighs 47kg, so a nice body too. First two were granted in the PSL3 type tier but if boyos are claiming to be uglier than I am (i.e. PSL 3 themselves) yet won't bang their looksmatch...well, volcel is all I can say to that.

 

[heroinfather]

just holy fuck at this whole thread, would a lightskin darkie work in this shit? Because i know it does in Vietnam but vietnamese girls are ugly as fuck

 

[blackcapcliff]

Been lurking for a bit and made an account just to comment on this.

You are hero status boyo. Thank you for your updates. Would love PM pics but I'm new so prob won't get any. When I finish my degree I might look in to moving over there too.

 

[blackcel]

just holy fuck at this whole thread, would a lightskin darkie work in this shit? Because i know it does in Vietnam but vietnamese girls are ugly as fuck

I know of a black guy who went to the phillipines and absolutely slayed. He was able to get girls here in the states, though, but I always thought he was kinda ugly. Other guys even said he was ugly. He is a super extroverted NT type guy.

 

[Deleted member 2119]

just holy fuck at this whole thread, would a lightskin darkie work in this shit? Because i know it does in Vietnam but vietnamese girls are ugly as fuck

Beggers can't be choosers

 

[KyloRen]

@ItsOVER --> @ItsCHAD

 

[ghostcell]

jesus if u can slay like this in asia i will become a god there

good for u buddy

 

[Deleted member 2119]

jesus if u can slay like this in asia i will become a god there

good for u buddy

I might try my best in mexico in the future but Asia seems like good option as well

 

[BlackpilledTruecel]

Slayer.



I hope I can lose my virginity when I am done cutting. My face is looking leaner by the day now. Cheeks hollow as fuark and ramus the most defined it has ever been and still got 2 weeks left on DNP, so that should be another 12-14lbs.

Sex sounds like a lot of fun.

how old are u? KHHV?

 

[mylifeistrash]

my experience of USA vs thailand/manila

I did tinder dates a few years back when I lived in a big city and had a job. I hate white women/american women but nearly all of them were on time, a few minutes early or late.

in thailand  and manilla, girls are flakey as FUCK, even if they're not hot. probably the biggest downside of southeast asia. they are massive fucking time wasters.

guys trying to get laid without paying in thailand need a lot of time, energy and patience.
like orcs in a Tolkien novel, they go by large numbers and you gotta play a numbers game.

of course the longer you stay and better you know thai (in PH, only need to know english, but PH is a shithole), the easier it all gets.

 

[Deleted member 2119]

my experience of USA vs thailand/manila

I did tinder dates a few years back when I lived in a big city and had a job. I hate white women/american women but nearly all of them were on time, a few minutes early or late.

in thailand  and manilla, girls are flakey as FUCK, even if they're not hot. probably the biggest downside of southeast asia. they are massive fucking time wasters.

guys trying to get laid without paying in thailand need a lot of time, energy and patience.
like orcs in a Tolkien novel, they go by large numbers and you gotta play a numbers game.

of course the longer you stay and better you know thai (in PH, only need to know english, but PH is a shithole), the easier it all gets.

What do you know about south america? Is it easier there than in the west?

 

[BlackpilledTruecel]

@itsover send me pic of the 17yo

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my experience of USA vs thailand/manila

I did tinder dates a few years back when I lived in a big city and had a job. I hate white women/american women but nearly all of them were on time, a few minutes early or late.

in thailand  and manilla, girls are flakey as FUCK, even if they're not hot. probably the biggest downside of southeast asia. they are massive fucking time wasters.

guys trying to get laid without paying in thailand need a lot of time, energy and patience.
like orcs in a Tolkien novel, they go by large numbers and you gotta play a numbers game.

of course the longer you stay and better you know thai (in PH, only need to know english, but PH is a shithole), the easier it all gets.

why is thailand good and manila a shithole? explain plz

 

[mylifeistrash]

my experience of USA vs thailand/manila
I did tinder dates a few years back when I lived in a big city and had a job. I hate white women/american women but nearly all of them were on time, a few minutes early or late.
in thailand and manilla, girls are flakey as FUCK, even if they're not hot. probably the biggest downside of southeast asia. they are massive fucking time wasters.
guys trying to get laid without paying in thailand need a lot of time, energy and patience.
like orcs in a Tolkien novel, they go by large numbers and you gotta play a numbers game.
of course the longer you stay and better you know thai (in PH, only need to know english, but PH is a shithole), the easier it all gets.

What do you know about south america? Is it easier there than in the west?

never been. rooshv board has a lot of good info about fucking foreign whores.

supposedly columbia absolutely shits all over asia and nordic countries in terms of how hot their women are but no english is spoken there.

also six month cheap tourist visas, but once again, it's also a shithole.

 

[itsOVER]

@ItsOVER --> @ItsCHAD

Only in Asia lol. As soon as I go back home to finish this course I'll be back to incel status.

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jesus if u can slay like this in asia i will become a god there

good for u buddy

Cheers. You need to make the move too!

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I might try my best in mexico in the future but Asia seems like good option as well

FWIW when I try Tinder in South America I do alright, so chances are a lot of the Latin America countries would be decent to get laid in too.

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my experience of USA vs thailand/manila

I did tinder dates a few years back when I lived in a big city and had a job. I hate white women/american women but nearly all of them were on time, a few minutes early or late.

in thailand  and manilla, girls are flakey as FUCK, even if they're not hot. probably the biggest downside of southeast asia. they are massive fucking time wasters.

guys trying to get laid without paying in thailand need a lot of time, energy and patience.
like orcs in a Tolkien novel, they go by large numbers and you gotta play a numbers game.

of course the longer you stay and better you know thai (in PH, only need to know english, but PH is a shithole), the easier it all gets.

I do agree with most of this. Girls ARE flaky as fuck. That's why I was arguing with another member a couple of months back, who said it'd be pssible to set up 2 dates a day for every day he was there just based off his tinder matches, and thus would be banging a new chick every day. It's just not realistic. 

25% of your dates will cancel last minute leaving you no time to find replacements. Another 50% won't be banging you first date.

With that said it's still a ton easier than the west. If the girl turns up you stand a decent chance of nailing her eventually even if it's not on the first meet.

Here's some advice though - if a girl won't commit to a time, it's over, move on. For example if you ask if she' free Sunday at 8 o clock and she says 'Maybe' - that means no, it's over, end the conversation and move on. You gotta be harsh when filtering out timewasters here.

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Will send everyone pics who requested them later.

 

[mylifeistrash]

do you make them travel to you? I assume you're near skytrain or MRT?

heat in april / may is so fucking brutal, i was always afraid to walk outside and meet people because i'd be sweating in minutes

 

[itsOVER]

do you make them travel to you? I assume you're near skytrain or MRT?

heat in april / may is so fucking brutal, i was always afraid to walk outside and meet people because i'd be sweating in minutes

Not many girls will meet first time in your room. I do stay near the skytrain though.

Normally meet at one of the central skytrain stations.

 

[Miro Chad]

PM me Pics bro

 

[ghostcell]

how hot would u rate the girls out of 10?

 

[Miro Chad]

Can't wait to go to thailand myself

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Do you go raw?

 

[mylifeistrash]

do you make them travel to you? I assume you're near skytrain or MRT?
heat in april / may is so fucking brutal, i was always afraid to walk outside and meet people because i'd be sweating in minutes

Not many girls will meet first time in your room. I do stay near the skytrain though.
Normally meet at one of the central skytrain stations.

I meant to your general location. I suppose you just skip over the ones who want you to go to their area? That always seems like a good idea, especially since bangkok is so unforgiving to anyone who doesn't speak thai.

 

[Narazz]

i'm learning Japanese here. i think i'd like i tthere better past the pussy lol

big thing is just getting past poor status. i need to find a way to get some type of internet business going so i can move where i want to live and buy some hookers where it's legal

 

[itsOVER]

how hot would u rate the girls out of 10?

Mostly 4s, but as Ive mentioned that's the downside of only being here for a few weeks - you have to push aggressively for quick lays which means you can't work on higher quality chicks. If you want though I can PM you the pics and you can judge the hotness or lack thereof for yourself?

Can't wait to go to thailand myself

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Do you go raw?

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Condoms are for cucks, so yes I go raw every time.

do you make them travel to you? I assume you're near skytrain or MRT?
heat in april / may is so fucking brutal, i was always afraid to walk outside and meet people because i'd be sweating in minutes

Not many girls will meet first time in your room. I do stay near the skytrain though.
Normally meet at one of the central skytrain stations.

I meant to your general location. I suppose you just skip over the ones who want you to go to their area? That always seems like a good idea, especially since bangkok is so unforgiving to anyone who doesn't speak thai.

I'll try and arrange a meet first in my general area, failing that somewhere halfway between us/ If they're only willing to meet in their area then I drop them - not because I can't navigate Bangkok, but just because as you've already mentioned, these girls are flakey as hell, so I'm not traveling any long distances given the risk of getting stood up.

i'm learning Japanese here. i think i'd like i tthere better past the pussy lol
big thing is just getting past poor status. i need to find a way to get some type of internet business going so i can move where i want to live and buy some hookers where it's legal

Money is just one more cope in my mind, it's pussy that leads to happiness.

 

[ghostcell]

Mostly 4s, but as Ive mentioned that's the downside of only being here for a few weeks - you have to push aggressively for quick lays which means you can't work on higher quality chicks. If you want though I can PM you the pics and you can judge the hotness or lack thereof for yourself?

thats fine no need to send it. it would probably just be suicide fuel for me at this point, because im still stuck here at home with nothing.

good on you though, hope u can prolong ur stay there and eventually slay even hotter JBs

 

[itsOVER]

PM me Pics bro

@itsover send me pic of the 17yo

Sent boyos

 

[Weed]

PM me all your slays

 

[itsOVER]

PM me all your slays

Done.

 

[VLÖ]

Is there hope there for a poor eastern euro guy? Or do they despise us there too?

 

[itsOVER]

Is there hope there for a poor eastern euro guy? Or do they despise us there too?

If you look white and aren't @Ropeman level looks, there's hope for you.

Of course you still need the money for a plane ticket. The girls aren't gold diggers though much as the coper will tell you others. Sure, you run into the occasional gold digger (just as you fucking would back home), but you just have to shrug your shoulders and kick her to the kerb after the first date.

If you want to definitely know how you'd get on, buy tinder plus for a month, set your location to Bangkok, and see how many matches you get. It'd be well worth the 6 quid investment before deciding on moving somewhere.

 

[theoldnick]

I'd advise against going raw,
these very easy online girls have probably been around with a few foreigners and not the best kind

 

[itsOVER]

I'd advise against going raw,
these very easy online girls have probably been around with a few foreigners and not the best kind

Sex with a condom isn't really sex boyo, and we all have to die eventually.

 

[NeverChad]

Pm me pics. Want to know what I'm missing out on.

 

[itsOVER]

Pm me pics. Want to know what I'm missing out on.

Done.

 

[Tygercel]

Pm me pics pls, I've been to bkk before and curious what your definition of a 4 is.

 

[tlightz]

Something doesn't add up in the story. I saw your pic you seem like a typical average white guy that ethnic girls would certainly like in the west... Are you saying you can't get Asians/Indian/other ethnic girls back in the west just solely for being white (JBW theory). Yea I know you're only 5'7" but you can be 5'10" with lifts and thus appear taller than most girls. I find it hard to believe that you're incel back in the UK. what's your layout count.

Also are you really fucking Thai girls in both pussy and ass raw? It's a high epidemic HIV place aren't you scared? At least get some common stds vaccines and PreP meds to prevent HIV? I don't know just common sense?

 

[itsOVER]

Something doesn't add up in the story. I saw your pic you seem like a typical average white guy that ethnic girls would certainly like in the west... Are you saying you can't get Asians/Indian/other ethnic girls back in the west just solely for being white (JBW theory). Yea I know you're only 5'7" but you can be 5'10" with lifts and thus appear taller than most girls. I find it hard to believe that you're incel back in the UK. what's your layout count.

Also are you really fucking Thai girls in both pussy and ass raw? It's a high epidemic HIV place aren't you scared? At least get some common stds vaccines and PreP meds to prevent HIV? I don't know just common sense?

I don't really care if you find it hard to believe or not tbh. The reason it 'doesn't add up' is cos you're a coper who wants to deny location theory.

Btw JBW gets you nothing in a white country. Only total retards think it does. Most of this board is white.

Sex with a condom isn't really sex. HIV is extremely difficult to transmit heterosexually, and we all have to die of something.