I'm one step closer to getting my hair transplant

[CopingGymcel]

Managed to convince my blue pilled brother it is a great idea. Showed him photos of Erdogan's work and he was fairly impressed. 

By managing to convince him, it's going to be a million times easier to convince my parents of giving me the money that is rightfully mine (inheritance from grandmother). 

Will 100% have the surgery by the end of this year.

No more LDARing.

 

[SeifEsteem]

ur going places buddy with fleek undercut

 

[CopingGymcel]

ur going places buddy with fleek undercut

Erdogan gonna fix my life. He is the only doctor for me.

 

[CopingGymcel]

How much is it going to cost you?

I’ll hopefully be getting one too this year

I am not sure yet. It will probably be a little more expensive with Erdogan, but I don't have that huge of an area to transplant. I will be going for the most density possible of course. Money is not an issue, it's getting it from my parents that is. My grandma left me about 25k and I like 35k more that I inherited.

 

[KyloRen]

Congratulations

 

[CopingGymcel]

Congratulations

Don't congratulate me yet, but when I actually get the surgery this year.

No more fucking around. I need to be focused on my goal, or I will just become complacent. Just lol at actually waiting for such a life changing surgery.

 

[NeverSubmit]

Hair transplant is a last resort have you tried everything else

 

[SeifEsteem]

praise erdogan

 

[CopingGymcel]

I still wanna see your face copingymcel

I'll show you when I get to single digit bf, ok?

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praise erdogan

Praise! He is a living god.

 

[SeifEsteem]

I still wanna see your face copingymcel

I'll show you when I get to single digit bf, ok?

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praise erdogan

Praise! He is a living god.

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u can have my number 9-11

 

[CopingGymcel]

Hair transplant is a last resort have you tried everything else

I'm on fin. Got a little regrowth on the sides, but the hairline is so hard to grow anything back on. I only have a receding hairline, no thinning. I am NW 2.5 or so, but I have a big forehead and need to cover it up.

 

[Sparrow's Song]

If your MPB has fully progressed you will need more transplants in a few years and hair transplant surgeons generally don't like to cut a second strip of skin away and never do a third. They say hair transplants are only a guaranteed one time fix if you're completely bald on top when you get it, but fuck waiting til forty... I'm doing the opposite, I'm doing Persian style hair removal because don't have 10K and twenty something years to wait.

 

[CopingGymcel]

[quote="Sparrow']
If your MPB has fully progressed you will need more transplants in a few years and hair transplant surgeons generally don't like to cut a second strip of skin away and never do a third. They say hair transplants are only a guaranteed one time fix if you're completely bald on top when you get it, but fuck waiting til forty... I'm doing the opposite, I'm doing Persian style hair removal because don't have 10K and twenty something years to wait.
[/quote]

I'm on fin (no more hair loss) and my grandpa on my mother's side was a NW2 in his 50s before his death.

 

[itsOVER]

[quote="Sparrow']
If your MPB has fully progressed you will need more transplants in a few years and hair transplant surgeons generally don't like to cut a second strip of skin away and never do a third. They say hair transplants are only a guaranteed one time fix if you're completely bald on top when you get it, but fuck waiting til forty... I'm doing the opposite, I'm doing Persian style hair removal because don't have 10K and twenty something years to wait.
[/quote]

Why do people say 'you'll need more transplants in a few years' think that's somehow an argument against getting one NOW?

Let's say you're a NW2 who needs 2,000 grafts to restore his hairline. You go to Erdogan who charges you 2.5 euros a graft, so you pay 5,000 euros. Later you progress to NW3, and need another 1,000 grafts. So that's another 2,500 euros, so 7,500 in total.

Now tell me, how's that different from just getting it done when you're an NW3, and paying 7,500 EUR for 3,000 grafts? Aside from of course you having shit hair in the period between NW2 and NW3?

Here's a blackpill for you: when you're 40, everyone looks ugly. Even Chad doesn't slay prime pussy then. So let's say you're 25 now, and NW2. You get one transplant to fix you up, then 5 years later you need another one, and 5 years after that you need one more. 5 years from your 3rd transplant you suffer more hair loss, meaning you really gotta shave the whole thing off or you just look retarded.

So...is that such a bad trade really? You spend your years from 25-40 with hair. I'd say that's better than waiting until 40 then getting a hair transplant to take you back to a NW2 (given you'll have lost too much to take it to NW1). Suffer shit hair during your better years just so you can have better (but not perfect) hair after 40? Fuck that.

Plus you know, not everyone progresses past NW2 or NW3. You might be one of those guys, in which case you're just making yourself look shit for no reason by not getting a transplant.

 

[Raisincel]

ur going places buddy with fleek undercut

I don't even want to get that haircut again. Almost everybody has it now, or some variation of it. I was an early adopter, but the market is heavily saturated now.

 

[dr-problematic]

if u imply that hair line is only thing stopping u from getting laid u r delusional

 

[hehe xd]

cope

attractive people arent dependant on their hair

 

[CopingGymcel]

Why do people say 'you'll need more transplants in a few years' think that's somehow an argument against getting one NOW?

Let's say you're a NW2 who needs 2,000 grafts to restore his hairline. You go to Erdogan who charges you 2.5 euros a graft, so you pay 5,000 euros. Later you progress to NW3, and need another 1,000 grafts. So that's another 2,500 euros, so 7,500 in total.

Now tell me, how's that different from just getting it done when you're an NW3, and paying 7,500 EUR for 3,000 grafts? Aside from of course you having shit hair in the period between NW2 and NW3?

Here's a blackpill for you: when you're 40, everyone looks ugly. Even Chad doesn't slay prime pussy then. So let's say you're 25 now, and NW2. You get one transplant to fix you up, then 5 years later you need another one, and 5 years after that you need one more. 5 years from your 3rd transplant you suffer more hair loss, meaning you really gotta shave the whole thing off or you just look retarded.

So...is that such a bad trade really? You spend your years from 25-40 with hair. I'd say that's better than waiting until 40 then getting a hair transplant to take you back to a NW2 (given you'll have lost too much to take it to NW1). Suffer shit hair during your better years just so you can have better (but not perfect) hair after 40? Fuck that.

Plus you know, not everyone progresses past NW2 or NW3. You might be one of those guys, in which case you're just making yourself look shit for no reason by not getting a transplant.

Best answer.

It's better to fix the problem now and live a normal life instead of thinking "I'll just let it get worse and fix it at 35" and living a shitty life until then. Make no sense tbh. It's better to just be ready to get multiple transplants if needed.

Better hair = better confidence = better success workcelling = paid more = more money for transplants in the future. Shitty hairline = shitty life = shitty pay = suimaxing before you actually get to the point of getting a transplant at 35 or 40, when you look like shit anyway.

 

[dr-problematic]

Why do people say 'you'll need more transplants in a few years' think that's somehow an argument against getting one NOW?

that is true, with the exception that side effect of HT that i can cause more hair loss to healthy hairs due to scalp trauma

 

[CopingGymcel]

that is true, with the exception that side effect of HT that i can cause more hair loss to healthy hairs due to scalp trauma

Erdogan uses his method that is very precise and doesn't cause much trauma or scarring. He removes each hair individually and places them with precision, that's why he is the best.

 

[dr-problematic]

Erdogan uses his method that is very precise and doesn't cause much trauma or scarring. He removes each hair individually and places them with precision, that's why he is the best.

it's kinda gamble tbh, but risks are defo worth it in this case, cause as far as i know chances of post HT trauma accelerating or causin more hair loss are rather slim

im comparison to possible sides from accutane or fin

 

[CopingGymcel]

it's kinda gamble tbh, but risks are defo worth it in this case, cause as far as i know chances of post HT trauma accelerating or causin more hair loss are rather slim

im comparison to possible sides from accutane or fin

It's a risk worth taking. 

I'm already on fin, so I shouldn't see any more recession if it goes to plan.

My grandpa was a NW2, so maybe I have his genetics instead of my father's suifuel NW5 hairline (he has a good skull shape). I'm always told how much I look like my grandpa when he was younger (we both have big skulls and wide jaws). RIP his soul, died in his 50s.

 

[itsOVER]

Best answer.

It's better to fix the problem now and live a normal life instead of thinking "I'll just let it get worse and fix it at 35" and living a shitty life until then. Make no sense tbh. It's better to just be ready to get multiple transplants if needed.

Better hair = better confidence = better success workcelling = paid more = more money for transplants in the future. Shitty hairline = shitty life = shitty pay = suimaxing before you actually get to the point of getting a transplant at 35 or 40, when you look like shit anyway.

Yeah like ffs, I'm paying 2000 EUR for unlimited grafts, so I guess you could make the economic argument in my case (i.e. that it costs less to just do 1 transplant of 6000 grafts if I go bald than 3x2000). But it's not like it's a huge amount of money to literally raise you a whole PSL point (or alternatively, prevent you DROPPING a PSL point) even if you do end up being the unlucky guy who needs 3 transplants before shaving it all off at 40.

Would I pay 6000 EUR to live 15 more years as a PSL 5 rather than a PSL 4 (or likely a 3 if my hair loss kept up and I did no transplants)? Ummm yeah, absolutely. That's less than the cost of jaw implants, and having a full head of hair and a shit jaw is much better than having a jaw of the gods and being bald.

 

[CopingGymcel]

Yeah like ffs, I'm paying 2000 EUR for unlimited grafts, so I guess you could make the economic argument in my case (i.e. that it costs less to just do 1 transplant of 6000 grafts if I go bald than 3x2000). But it's not like it's a huge amount of money to literally raise you a whole PSL point (or alternatively, prevent you DROPPING a PSL point) even if you do end up being the unlucky guy who needs 3 transplants before shaving it all off at 40.

Would I pay 6000 EUR to live 15 more years as a PSL 5 rather than a PSL 4 (or likely a 3 if my hair loss kept up and I did no transplants)? Ummm yeah, absolutely. That's less than the cost of jaw implants, and having a full head of hair and a shit jaw is much better than having a jaw of the gods and being bald.

I don't understand people who let their hairlines go completely to shit.

How fucking retarded is he? He used to be a huge mogger in his teens, then he lost his hair. Now he looks like utter shit. He is a walking meme at this point. He could EASILY afford the best hair surgeon out there. Look how hard his ginger brother mogs him now.

His brother is red pilled and looksmaxed to the core.

 

[Sparrow's Song]

[quote="Sparrow']
If your MPB has fully progressed you will need more transplants in a few years and hair transplant surgeons generally don't like to cut a second strip of skin away and never do a third. They say hair transplants are only a guaranteed one time fix if you're completely bald on top when you get it, but fuck waiting til forty... I'm doing the opposite, I'm doing Persian style hair removal because don't have 10K and twenty something years to wait.

Why do people say 'you'll need more transplants in a few years' think that's somehow an argument against getting one NOW?
Let's say you're a NW2 who needs 2,000 grafts to restore his hairline. You go to Erdogan who charges you 2.5 euros a graft, so you pay 5,000 euros. Later you progress to NW3, and need another 1,000 grafts. So that's another 2,500 euros, so 7,500 in total.
Now tell me, how's that different from just getting it done when you're an NW3, and paying 7,500 EUR for 3,000 grafts? Aside from of course you having shit hair in the period between NW2 and NW3?
Here's a blackpill for you: when you're 40, everyone looks ugly. Even Chad doesn't slay prime pussy then. So let's say you're 25 now, and NW2. You get one transplant to fix you up, then 5 years later you need another one, and 5 years after that you need one more. 5 years from your 3rd transplant you suffer more hair loss, meaning you really gotta shave the whole thing off or you just look retarded.
So...is that such a bad trade really? You spend your years from 25-40 with hair. I'd say that's better than waiting until 40 then getting a hair transplant to take you back to a NW2 (given you'll have lost too much to take it to NW1). Suffer shit hair during your better years just so you can have better (but not perfect) hair after 40? Fuck that.
Plus you know, not everyone progresses past NW2 or NW3. You might be one of those guys, in which case you're just making yourself look shit for no reason by not getting a transplant.[/quote]
I just assumed OP was thin AF all over his top. If it's a matter of hairline and not major balding, hair transplant is most def the way to go.

 

[itsOVER]

I don't understand people who let their hairlines go completely to shit.

How fucking retarded is he? He used to be a huge mogger in his teens, then he lost his hair. Now he looks like utter shit. He is a walking meme at this point. He could EASILY afford the best hair surgeon out there. Look how hard his ginger brother mogs him now.

His brother is red pilled and looksmaxed to the core.

Tbf he probably slayed so much he just doesn't give a shit anymore.

I think the average guy who lets their hairline go to shit just doesn't even know about it. For example - prior to discovering lookism.net a few months ago, I had no idea I was even balding. It happens so slow you don't even notice until boom, you wake up one day and you're bald.

 

[CopingGymcel]

Tbf he probably slayed so much he just doesn't give a shit anymore.

I think the average guy who lets their hairline go to shit just doesn't even know about it. For example - prior to discovering lookism.net a few months ago, I had no idea I was even balding. It happens so slow you don't even notice until boom, you wake up one day and you're bald.

Someone told me I was balding online when I showed my pic back in 2015. I hadn't noticed at all. He saved me.

I probably slowly started to bald back in 2013 and then ended up NW2 in 2015. I had long hair before I cut it short, making it harder to notice.

 

[BonePressed]

My grandfather on my mother's side is in his late 80s and still has a full head of hair and barely any gray.

And my nearly 60 year old father's hair doesn't look like it has thinned or receded at all.

So thankfully this isn't a concern for me.

 

[itsOVER]

My hair is thick as fuck, a bit too thick at times. I have to cut it every month or it becomes too thick and messy.

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Someone told me I was balding online when I showed my pic back in 2015. He saved me. I hadn't noticed at all.

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Well yeah but think about the average normtard going about his daily life, who never discovered lookism/incels/sluthate etc. No one is gonna come up to him and be like 'you're going bald bro'. Normies just don't talk like that to each other. I can see how easy it would be to slowly become bald without really being able to pinpoint a time when you'd think 'damn, I need to do something about this!'.

With regard to the balding prince, well I guarantee he still fucks hot pussy whenever he likes, so there's no reason to think he's anything other than a bluepilled faggot. It's not like he's ever gonna struggle with women, type 'why can't i get laid' into google, and discover that his hairline is shit.

I can't even pinpoint a time when I started balding. My pics from when I was 23 in Thailand...my hair was longer then so it's more difficult to notice, though tbh in some pics I still have the temple recession there. For all I know it might have started when I was 18...no idea really.

 

[CopingGymcel]

My grandfather on my mother's side who's in his late 80s has a full head of hair and barely any gray.

And my nearly 60 year old father's hair doesn't look like it has thinned or receded at all.

So thankfully this isn't a concern for me.

You should just roid like crazy tbh. Go all out on tren. If I had the type of luck, I would be on tren right now.

 

[Octopusgun2]

After that, get a forehead reduction and dye your eyebrows/hair as your phenotype can’t afford to have Nordic genes (you are Nordic but you don’t have the face of a Nordic).

You should also try running squint game.

The morph I did of you was a 8/10, you can achieve that just by a forehead reduction and by thickening your eyebrows, srs.

 

[CopingGymcel]

Well yeah but think about the average normtard going about his daily life, who never discovered lookism/incels/sluthate etc. No one is gonna come up to him and be like 'you're going bald bro'. Normies just don't talk like that to each other. I can see how easy it would be to slowly become bald without really being able to pinpoint a time when you'd think 'damn, I need to do something about this!'.

With regard to the balding prince, well I guarantee he still fucks hot pussy whenever he likes, so there's no reason to think he's anything other than a bluepilled faggot. It's not like he's ever gonna struggle with women, type 'why can't i get laid' into google, and discover that his hairline is shit.

I can't even pinpoint a time when I started balding. My pics from when I was 23 in Thailand...my hair was longer then so it's more difficult to notice, though tbh in some pics I still have the temple recession there. For all I know it might have started when I was 18...no idea really.

My hairline doesn't look receded to the average normie, but my forehead needs to be covered up. And even if they don't consciously notice, a good hairline will always look more aesthetic.

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After that, get a forehead reduction and dye your eyebrows/hair as your phenotype can’t afford to have Nordic genes (you are Nordic but you don’t have the face of a Nordic).

I don't know about a forehead reduction. I'll see first if I can get fix it by just covering it up or perhaps Erdogan knows how to slightly lower the hairline by implant hairs there (if that's even possible).

I don't know how dyed hair would look on me with my fair skin type. Maybe I need to melanotan max on top of that if I am to dye it all.

I've had some 4/10 femoids stare at me in the gym, especially after my fat loss (if I'm not being delusional), so if I can fix my forehead, it should be easy. I need for them to come to me or I need to take some MDMA and talk to them that way.

The time a femoid approached me, I actually had invisible eyebrows (no dye) and was bloated as fuck from Christmas.

 

[BonePressed]

You should just roid like crazy tbh. Go all out on tren. If I had the type of luck, I would be on tren right now.

Not worth it, still has other bad side effects

 

[Octopusgun2]

Well yeah but think about the average normtard going about his daily life, who never discovered lookism/incels/sluthate etc. No one is gonna come up to him and be like 'you're going bald bro'. Normies just don't talk like that to each other. I can see how easy it would be to slowly become bald without really being able to pinpoint a time when you'd think 'damn, I need to do something about this!'.
With regard to the balding prince, well I guarantee he still fucks hot pussy whenever he likes, so there's no reason to think he's anything other than a bluepilled faggot. It's not like he's ever gonna struggle with women, type 'why can't i get laid' into google, and discover that his hairline is shit.
I can't even pinpoint a time when I started balding. My pics from when I was 23 in Thailand...my hair was longer then so it's more difficult to notice, though tbh in some pics I still have the temple recession there. For all I know it might have started when I was 18...no idea really.

My hairline doesn't look receded to the average normie, but my forehead needs to be covered up. And even if they don't consciously notice, a good hairline will always look more aesthetic.

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After that, get a forehead reduction and dye your eyebrows/hair as your phenotype can’t afford to have Nordic genes (you are Nordic but you don’t have the face of a Nordic).

I don't know about a forehead reduction. I'll see first if I can get fix it by just covering it up or perhaps Erdogan knows how to slightly lower the hairline by implant hairs there (if that's even possible).
I don't know how dyed hair would look on me with my fair skin type. Maybe I need to melanotan max on top of that if I am to dye it all.
I've had some 4/10 femoids stare at me in the gym, especially after my fat loss (if I'm not being delusional), so if I can fix my forehead, it should be easy. I need for them to come to me or I need to take some MDMA and talk to them that way.

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Nah, if you REALLY looksmax religiously then you won’t have to say much to get femoids. You’d only need to download Tinder.

 

[CopingGymcel]

Not worth it, still has other bad side effects

Try and see how you react to it.

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Nah, if you REALLY looksmax religiously then you won’t have to say much to get femoids. You’d only need to download Tinder.

That's what I'll do. At least a hair transplant, then probably an eyebrow transplant if it's doable and then hairline lowering if the risk isn't too high.

 

[Octopusgun2]

Not worth it, still has other bad side effects

Try and see how you react to it.

Does your profile view look better than your front? I’m sure it does because of your lower third and zygos projection. What would you rate yourself from the profile view alone?

 

[itsOVER]

My hairline doesn't look receded to the average normie, but my forehead needs to be covered up. And even if they don't consciously notice, a good hairline will always look more aesthetic.

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Mine is much the same. I don't think the average normie would be able to tell that my hair was receeded, they'd just think I was generally ugly without being able to pinpoint specific features as to WHY like we can do here.

 

[CopingGymcel]

Does your profile view look better than your front? I’m sure it does because of your lower third and zygos projection. What would you rate yourself from the profile view alone?

My side profile is decent, but not super amazing. My forward growth is alright, but it's not MM tier. Framecel mogs my forward growth by far. My brother always tells me how jealous he is of my side-profile, so I guess it's not too bad. He even told me how good it was when I was overweight (I guess that's the only side an overweight person can look good from). I never asked him about it, so he brought it up by his own volition (even before he knew how bad my self-confidence was), so no attempt to blue pill.

Gonial angle, forward growth of chin and ramus length are probably what makes it an above average side-profile. But the forward growth of the midface in general is nothing to write home about.

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Mine is much the same. I don't think the average normie would be able to tell that my hair was receeded, they'd just think I was generally ugly without being able to pinpoint specific features as to WHY like we can do here.

Some Chadlite 7.5 friend of my brother (manlet though) has PERFECT long hair. I told him how jealous I was of his nice hair and he told me "just grow out your hair." I was thinking "you being serious with me nigga? Look at my god damn hairline."

 

[Framecel222]

Very nice. That should raise you about 1 PSL point and will especially help with younger girls. 

I still wanna see your face copingymcel

Have a box of tissues nearby, he's so cute!  :love:

 

[CopingGymcel]

Very nice. That should raise you about 1 PSL point and will especially help with younger girls. 


Have a box of tissues nearby, he's so cute!  :love:

When I show him my face, I'll have 8-9% body fat with heavy bloatminning and it will be a photo taken at a night club (perfect lighting). It will be the perfect photo.

I'm sauna maxing for 20 min after every gym session now for bloatminning and I upped my AI dosage. Hollow cheeks have made a small comeback. My AI usage was a tad bit too low, which caused my face to look a little too fat for my body fat percentage.

I may even kill my estrogen completely on purpose to look the best possible for pictures when I am done cutting(dick won't work until it's back to normal, so there will be zero chance of sex).

 

[itsOVER]

Some Chadlite 7.5 friend of my brother (manlet though) has PERFECT long hair. I told him how jealous I was of his nice hair and he told me "just grow out your hair." I was thinking "you being serious with me nigga? Look at my god damn hairline."

Normies gonna normie.

 

[CopingGymcel]

Normies gonna normie.

He is a huge slayer. Really nice and chill guy.

 

[itsOVER]

He is a huge slayer. Really nice and chill guy.

Yeah but he's probably still bluepilled as fuck, that's what I meant by normie. Just grow out your hair bro...JFL.

 

[Framecel222]

When I show him my face, I'll have 8-9% body fat with heavy bloatminning and it will be a photo taken at a night club (perfect lighting). It will be the perfect photo.

I'm sauna maxing for 20 min after every gym session now for bloatminning and I upped my AI dosage. Hollow cheeks have made a small comeback. My AI usage was a tad bit too low, which caused my face to look a little too fat for my body fat percentage.

I may even kill my estrogen completely on purpose to look the best possible for pictures when I am done cutting(dick won't work until it's back to normal, so there will be zero chance of sex).

Why is nightclub lighting ideal? I always assumed that gym lighting was the best.

 

[CopingGymcel]

Why is nightclub lighting ideal? I always assumed that gym lighting was the best.

I look like shit in my gym's mirror unless the lighting is right on top of my face : At least my cheekbones are really pronounced in that kind of lighting.

Look at night club photos, then go to their Facebook profile. They usually look like 3-4 times better in those photos. Makes your face look leaner, jawline more accentuated and skin better. Plus it gives social proof. The cameras they use are usually really good, too, so zero distortion and great detail.

I guess it depends on the photo and the lighting in the club. Not all night club photos has this effect (some poorly taken photos even make people look worse).

 

[itsOVER]

I look like shit in my gym's mirror unless the lighting is right on top of my face : At least my cheekbones are really pronounced in that kind of lighting.

Look at night club photos, then go to their Facebook profile. They usually look like 3-4 times better in those photos. Makes your face look leaner, jawline more accentuated and skin better. Plus it gives social proof. The cameras they use are usually really good, too, so zero distortion and great detail.

I guess it depends on the photo and the lighting in the club. Not all night club photos has this effect (some poorly taken photos even make people look worse).

The fuck is this legit?

Brb gonna check my own photos for this.

 

[CopingGymcel]

The fuck is this legit?

Brb gonna check my own photos for this.

It's true in a lot of photos, not all though. It depends on the light in the club and how good of a camera was used. 3-4 times may be a huge exaggeration, but they usually make you look better, at least from normal shitty cameras.

I've seen some club photos that make people look horrible and some that do the exact opposite.

 

[itsOVER]

It's true in a lot of photos, not all though. It depends on the light in the club and how good of a camera was used. 3-4 times may be a huge exaggeration, but they usually make you look better, at least from normal shitty cameras.

Hmm...

I checked the only couple of photos I have in a nightclub (think I actually sent one of them to you too when we were discussing femoids in Thailand). Maybe I might look a bit better but tbh I think it's hard to tell that much difference.

 

[CopingGymcel]

Hmm...

I checked the only couple of photos I have in a nightclub (think I actually sent one of them to you too when we were discussing femoids in Thailand). Maybe I might look a bit better but tbh I think it's hard to tell that much difference.

I think it's all about choosing a club with decent lighting. Not all clubs are red pilled.

 

[Sparrow's Song]

From now on, everytime I shave my head, I run an epilator across everything but my sikha about every six hours and apply a light coat of ant egg oil. If I quit being lazy and keep up with this, I'll never have to shave again and my head will be smooth. If the ant egg oil really works, I'll use it on my back, shoulders, and upper arms too... Maybe even on my balls and pubes if I can take the plucking pain.