Serious If you're a mentalcel, then your personality is the problem, just like IncelTears and bluepillers say, right?

[FACEandLMS]

How can you post all day about your looks being the problem when:

- you know of guys around your looks level who date women
- you can't even make friends with men, i.e. your social skills are fucked generally, not just in terms of dating
- you know that your personality, social anxiety, aspergers, inability to function like a human is your real problem.

How do you cope with the fact that you prove IT right, and that all bluepill advice ("Stop posting on .me, it radicalizes already-fragile minds", "confidence helps", "learn to socialize") is actually legit for you?

When I read posts here saying "mentalceldom is the worst", I find it weird how you guys gravitated to a community about LOOKS when that isn't even your problem. Now you can say: "If I were as mentalcel as I am now but had a 9/10 face, foids would love me", but the truth is, foids do date women of your looks if they are sane. Sanity is your problem.

And then when you nail mentalcels on the points above, their fallback is:

"But I'm also ugly"
"But average is ugly to foids"

As a last resort, they will throw looks in there as a trump-card. They only throw that in when their backs are against the wall.

 

[FrothySolutions]

Mental illness isn't a failure of "personality" though.

 

[Henry de Montherlant]

Mentalcels are so mentally alienated for seroius reasons that bluepill advices such as "talk to people bro", "open ya mind bro", be saucial bra" can't work anyway.

So it just proves IT is delusional as fuck.

 

[Deleted member 11159]

When IT cucks talk about "personality" they mean respecting women. No female actually gives a shit if you respect her or not if you're attractive but unless you look like prime Chico then being a socially retarded autist who has nothing to say will lower your SMV.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

Mental illness isn't a failure of "personality" though.

Yeah. It's much serious.

Some people develop mental Inceldom through their constant rejections based on looks.

 

[JovanD]

They have personality disorders, so yes, technically... But it's a death sentence if you're avg or little above looking since foids know vary well they don't have to compromise that way.

Also it's called a disorder for a reason, it's something mentalcels are stuck with and not something that can be controlled or turned off, it's just like having a disability, but without all the sympathy except from ppl going trough same or high iq people.

 

[Mainländer]

Mentalcels should take whatever substance it takes to make them talk to women and memorize some phrases/routines.

 

[RealCel]

I have paranoid schizophrenia but I take pills for that shit and it's far from the problem. It would be way worse if I didn't have my pills though because if I skip a dose I hear voices telling me that everyone is out to get me.

 

[Deleted member 11159]

Mentalcels should take whatever substance it takes to make them talk to women and memorize some phrases/routines.

just become an alcoholic theory

 

[Mainländer]

just become an alcoholic theory

Being an alcoholic is better than being a looks-induced truecel.

Also, most people actually can't become alcoholics. It's something the person must already have a predisposition to. I for example always used alcohol to help me approach and never became an alcoholic. I just don't like alcohol, it was just a tool to me.

 

[Jockcel]

This guy really has a vendetta against a certain demographic here...

 

[cope_over_rope]

How can you post all day about your looks being the problem when:
- you know of guys around your looks level who date women
- you can't even make friends with men, i.e. your social skills are fucked generally, not just in terms of dating
- you know that your personality, social anxiety, aspergers, inability to function like a human is your real problem.

I don't post about that all day. Even on Incels.me, which has rules against criticising the Blackpill, there is plenty of other content on lots of different subjects to engage with.

How do you cope with the fact that you prove IT right, and that all bluepill advice ("Stop posting on .me, it radicalizes already-fragile minds", "confidence helps", "learn to socialize") is actually legit for you?

This advice is not particularly useful to me, just as it isn't for you. I don't have a "fragile" mind, lol -- you have made far more unironically unhinged posts here than I ever have tbh. And it's not like people can just "become" confident or more socially adept. To a large extent, especially after a certain age, you are who you are. Also, some of my difficulties socially are due to a speech impediment that I have gone to speech therapy for and which I still have.

Also, when IT talks about the importance of personality, it means being nice to women and acting like a male feminist. I used to have that mindset too and was still incel then as I have been over the past year or so during which time I have become a complete and unapologetic misogynist.

When I read posts here saying "mentalceldom is the worst", I find it weird how you guys gravitated to a community about LOOKS when that isn't even your problem.

See above -- there are threads about a lot of things other than looks and there are looks-related threads that drop some YUGE blackpills about looks. That stuff is still fascinating to me even if I'm like a 5/10 or whatever.

 

[Ritalincel]

It is over.

 

[ControlledInsanity]

I have never posted about my looks. And I don't consider this to be an exclusive looks-only community.

 

[diogenes]

Being a mentalcel doesn't mean you're EXCLUSIVELY mentalcel. In fact, truecels will often be mentalcels as well.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Autism is as incurable as being short, ugly, or ethnic, so I don't fault autists for hanging out here and neither should you OP. They're just as damned as the rest of us.

 

[SuperPerfectCel]

How do you cope with the fact that you prove IT right, and that all bluepill advice ("Stop posting on .me, it radicalizes already-fragile minds", "confidence helps", "learn to socialize") is actually legit for you?

By not being dumb enough to think IT is ever right about anything.

"Stop posting on .me, it radicalizes already-fragile minds", - Has literally nothing to do with getting laid. Not posting here does not improve your looks or charisma. Being ignorant to the realities of women will only hurt your chances with them. Being a blue pill feminist will actively get you friendzoned.

"confidence helps" - Not if you're socially retarded. You would just be making a fool of yourself.

"learn to socialize" - You literally can't if you have something like autism. The brain is just as physically hardcoded as face, height, and skin.

foids do date women of your looks if they are sane. Sanity is your problem.

It is entirely possible to be sane but just not suited for the straight male dating role. Nobody calls foids insane for not knowing how to trick people who aren't too physically attracted to them into bed. Plenty of otherwise normal guys with friends and careers don't get laid simply because they can't do the whole seduction thing. It's like being one inch too short to get on the roller coaster, doesn't make you a midget.

 

[CaptainRussia]

How can you post all day about your looks being the problem when:

- you know of guys around your looks level who date women
- you can't even make friends with men, i.e. your social skills are fucked generally, not just in terms of dating
- you know that your personality, social anxiety, aspergers, inability to function like a human is your real problem.

How do you cope with the fact that you prove IT right, and that all bluepill advice ("Stop posting on .me, it radicalizes already-fragile minds", "confidence helps", "learn to socialize") is actually legit for you?

When I read posts here saying "mentalceldom is the worst", I find it weird how you guys gravitated to a community about LOOKS when that isn't even your problem. Now you can say: "If I were as mentalcel as I am now but had a 9/10 face, foids would love me", but the truth is, foids do date women of your looks if they are sane. Sanity is your problem.

And then when you nail mentalcels on the points above, their fallback is:

"But I'm also ugly"
"But average is ugly to foids"

As a last resort, they will throw looks in there as a trump-card. They only throw that in when their backs are against the wall.

for some of us the social anxiety started with bullying. we got bullied because of our looks. we are still below average looking and have social anxiety on top of that. just be more outgoing, bro. just stop having social anxiety, bro.

 

[NotQuiteChadLite]

Face, this is reaching autistic levels of unhinged rambling. Mental illnesses the likes of which you couldn't even begin to understand, can happen to everyone regardless of looks. You're basically just using the bootstraps fallacy, in that you place all failures in the hands of the individual. It's a logical fallacy.

 

[FACEandLMS]

Interesting replies.

So you're not really into the incel community for the "looks" aspect, but because of the "rejected by women" aspect???

Do you find yourself posting about looks anyway, though?

The incel community advises looksmaxxing for those whose problem is looks, but I have yet to read a sanitymaxxing or NTmaxxing guide written in seriousness. If the community is made up of ugly guys and mentaly ill guys, there should be at least SOME or at least a HANDFUL of tips about NTmaxxing.

Obviously, you can't cure autism, but there is no attempt to even come off as more normal, i.e. no mentalcels post links to behavioural information to help mentalcels navigate certain situations.

 

[Angus13]

How can you post all day about your looks being the problem when:

- you know of guys around your looks level who date women
- you can't even make friends with men, i.e. your social skills are fucked generally, not just in terms of dating
- you know that your personality, social anxiety, aspergers, inability to function like a human is your real problem.

How do you cope with the fact that you prove IT right, and that all bluepill advice ("Stop posting on .me, it radicalizes already-fragile minds", "confidence helps", "learn to socialize") is actually legit for you?

When I read posts here saying "mentalceldom is the worst", I find it weird how you guys gravitated to a community about LOOKS when that isn't even your problem. Now you can say: "If I were as mentalcel as I am now but had a 9/10 face, foids would love me", but the truth is, foids do date women of your looks if they are sane. Sanity is your problem.

And then when you nail mentalcels on the points above, their fallback is:

"But I'm also ugly"
"But average is ugly to foids"

As a last resort, they will throw looks in there as a trump-card. They only throw that in when their backs are against the wall.

You say this though like we can just hit a switch and totally change our brain chemistry, body language, etc. (which is pretty much PUA levels of self delusion). Many mentalcels are also incels for other reasons, such as looks, many manlets, etc, and even with mental inceldom, aspie women will not fuck with aspie men. Not unless he has chad-tier genetics (which is very rare). So no this isn't something we can just "go do" like IT people assume.

Also, not everyone with a mental disorder is "insane." Insanity are the extreme cases. Many people with high functioning mental disorders are not insane, just wired a bit differently.

 

[GeneticFilth]

You're like 6ft4 that's why you can make friends that don't treat you terribly despite having a hideous as fuck face.

 

[Inbuddhist]

How can you post all day about your looks being the problem when:

- you know of guys around your looks level who date women
- you can't even make friends with men, i.e. your social skills are fucked generally, not just in terms of dating
- you know that your personality, social anxiety, aspergers, inability to function like a human is your real problem.

How do you cope with the fact that you prove IT right, and that all bluepill advice ("Stop posting on .me, it radicalizes already-fragile minds", "confidence helps", "learn to socialize") is actually legit for you?

When I read posts here saying "mentalceldom is the worst", I find it weird how you guys gravitated to a community about LOOKS when that isn't even your problem. Now you can say: "If I were as mentalcel as I am now but had a 9/10 face, foids would love me", but the truth is, foids do date women of your looks if they are sane. Sanity is your problem.

And then when you nail mentalcels on the points above, their fallback is:

"But I'm also ugly"
"But average is ugly to foids"

As a last resort, they will throw looks in there as a trump-card. They only throw that in when their backs are against the wall.

The fact that some females date men of your looks level is meaningless, it has to be a regularity and not a statistical oddity for it to matter.

For instance, we don't conclude from the fact that some brazilian who grow up in favella to become a world star football player that growing up in favellas doesn't lead to cycle of poverty, we don't say that the problem in that case isn't "not growing up in the favella, because Gabriel Jesus grow up there and went to become a world star player, your fault is lack of hard work" it has to be a regular occurence, not statistical exceptions that only 5% people in that level of looks can profit from.

 

[ItsSoOver]

I’m not deformed, but I’m your classic mentalcel. My average/subpar looks are an afterthought once I open my mouth. Mentalceldom is a legitimate inceldom cause for lovelessness.

No one cares for me that’s not related to me.

 

[selfloathcel]

The fact that some females date men of your looks level is meaningless, it has to be a regularity and not a statistical oddity for it to matter.

For instance, we don't conclude from the fact that some brazilian who grow up in favella to become a world star football player that growing up in favellas doesn't lead to cycle of poverty, we don't say that the problem in that case isn't "not growing up in the favella, because Gabriel Jesus grow up there and went to become a world star player, your fault is lack of hard work" it has to be a regular occurence, not statistical exceptions that only 5% people in that level of looks can profit from.

I personally haven't seen women act the same way around their ugly partners as they do around their Chadlike ones. There is a predisposition foids have to be more lovely and submissive to tall square-jawed fuckboys.

 

[ItsSoOver]

I’m so sad. I just wish I had a friend who cares for my feelings. I get that i am not good looking and I’m socially dumb, but I just wish I had someone who wasn’t paid who cares. Not even a woman, but just a real friend. Why does society think I’m such a violent psycho? I’m just a person with feelings.

 

[Inbuddhist]

I personally haven't seen women act the same way around their ugly partners as they do around their Chadlike ones. There is a predisposition foids have to be more lovely and submissive to tall square-jawed fuckboys.

You are 100% right, but this is another topic.

 

[selfloathcel]

I’m so sad. I just wish I had a friend who cares for my feelings. I get that i am not good looking and I’m socially dumb, but I just wish I had someone who wasn’t paid who cares. Not even a woman, but just a real friend. Why does society think I’m such a violent psycho? I’m just a person with feelings.

I understand. You want something organic. Sadly, that isn't up to you in your current state. Friendships like the ones you speak of are unlikely anomalies like the Big Bang. I definitely am lucky to have a friend who saves me from spewing my hate for society publicly.

 

[BlackpilledTruecel]

to be fair all of the decent looking guys on here are in the west, if they were posting here in asia they'd be trolls

 

[ItsSoOver]

I understand. You want something organic. Sadly, that isn't up to you in your current state. Friendships like the ones you speak of are unlikely anomalies like the Big Bang. I definitely am lucky to have a friend who saves me from spewing my hate for society publicly.

Thank you for listening to me. I just have no control over my looks or feelings. I was not born into this world with hatred nor do I have hatred for people. I really try to love all. I’m glad my family loves me, but I wish I had one friend or acquaintance (Heaven forbid a woman) to share my feelings with that’s not a paid doctor. I’m so sad. I just want a friend. I have no real friends.

I know we all want women here but it’s even tougher when absolutely no one who’s not related to you cares.

 

[Deleted member 5861]

The incel community advises looksmaxxing for those whose problem is looks, but I have yet to read a sanitymaxxing or NTmaxxing guide written in seriousness. If the community is made up of ugly guys and mentaly ill guys, there should be at least SOME or at least a HANDFUL of tips about NTmaxxing.

Obviously, you can't cure autism, but there is no attempt to even come off as more normal, i.e. no mentalcels post links to behavioural information to help mentalcels navigate certain situations.

they do exist, just not that common. I, for one, made a low-inhib max guide filled with things such as alcohol to lower inhib and all I got was hate comments.

 

[SUH]

IT thinks persnality can be changed. They have a pull yourself by the bootstraps mentality about personality.


If you think that personality and IQ is malleable then youre no better
than IT

 

[ItsSoOver]

Thank you for listening to me. I just have no control over my looks or feelings. I was not born into this world with hatred nor do I have hatred for people. I really try to love all. I’m glad my family loves me, but I wish I had one friend or acquaintance (Heaven forbid a woman) to share my feelings with that’s not a paid doctor. I’m so sad. I just want a friend. I have no real friends.

I know we all want women here but it’s even tougher when absolutely no one who’s not related to you cares.

Is there such thing as an INSOC, an involuntary social, whereby you can’t even get normal, true friends?

 

[SUH]

Mentalcels should take whatever substance it takes to make them talk to women and memorize some phrases/routines.

Why the fuck do incels believe in the shitty normie "just do drugs bro" advice? Drugs only make you more of a mentalcel. Alchohol for me is a deppressant and increases inhibition. Same with DXM, Heroin, Meth, Weed, etc.

they do exist, just not that common. I, for one, made a low-inhib max guide filled with things such as alcohol to lower inhib and all I got was hate comments.

Because low inhib advice doesnt work. You're advice was just a another version of "just be confident bro"

Interesting replies.

So you're not really into the incel community for the "looks" aspect, but because of the "rejected by women" aspect???

Do you find yourself posting about looks anyway, though?

The incel community advises looksmaxxing for those whose problem is looks, but I have yet to read a sanitymaxxing or NTmaxxing guide written in seriousness. If the community is made up of ugly guys and mentaly ill guys, there should be at least SOME or at least a HANDFUL of tips about NTmaxxing.

Obviously, you can't cure autism, but there is no attempt to even come off as more normal, i.e. no mentalcels post links to behavioural information to help mentalcels navigate certain situations.

NTmaxxing doesnt work because you cant consciously sense social cues. You either can pick them up unconsciously or you cant.


Also:
WHY WOULD FOIDS FUCK A GL AUTIST IF THEY HAVE ACCESS TO 10 TIMES MORE NT CHADS?

 

[Dregster]

IT thinks persnality can be changed. They have a pull yourself by the bootstraps mentality about personality.


If you think that personality and IQ is malleable then youre no better
than IT

Literally feel like I lose brain cells just browsing and scrolling through IT.

They always take the extremes to make their points.

 

[Deleted member 1410]

its obviously the woman's personality, being that they lack one.

 

[TheIncelStaresBack]

Jesus christ.

If you don’t think personality/NT/IQ doesn’t matter for a worthwhile relationship *after you pass the looks threshold ofc* then you’re off your rocker or extremely clueless.

 

[Blue Squirtle]

Either way you end up in the same place as everyone else.

 

[jerrycan dan]

Interesting replies.

So you're not really into the incel community for the "looks" aspect, but because of the "rejected by women" aspect???

Do you find yourself posting about looks anyway, though?

The incel community advises looksmaxxing for those whose problem is looks, but I have yet to read a sanitymaxxing or NTmaxxing guide written in seriousness. If the community is made up of ugly guys and mentaly ill guys, there should be at least SOME or at least a HANDFUL of tips about NTmaxxing.

Obviously, you can't cure autism, but there is no attempt to even come off as more normal, i.e. no mentalcels post links to behavioural information to help mentalcels navigate certain situations.

Just fix the structure of your brain and nervous system bro

 

[incelgration]

Cucktears claims that incels are incels because of hate towards women.
Social anxiety aka not being confident and having low social skills does not count as misogyny.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

If you don’t think...IQ doesn’t matter for a worthwhile relationship

This one actually doesn't, unless you're chasing 40 year olds with Pure Math PhDs from MIT.

Maybe it does for 65 IQ bedshitters as well. Maybe.

 

[TheIncelStaresBack]

This one actually doesn't, unless you're chasing 40 year olds with Pure Math PhDs from MIT.

Maybe it does for 65 IQ bedshitters as well. Maybe.

I disagree. Women want to date someone that is well respected, maybe even feared, having a high iq helps towards achieving that goal.

In an office, an iq of 90 is not going to mog an iq of 130, everything else being roughly equal.

 

[Felix97]

I disagree. Women want to date someone that is well respected, maybe even feared, having a high iq helps towards achieving that goal.

In an office, an iq of 90 is not going to mog an iq of 130, everything else being roughly equal.

^^^^

 

[TheIncelStaresBack]

^^^^

I’m literally laying out the importance of genetics in something other than looks and I’m the bluepilled one? Go fuck yourself.

 

[Lebensmüder]

Being a mentalcel doesn't mean you're EXCLUSIVELY mentalcel. In fact, truecels will often be mentalcels as well.

Indeed. Everyone can have deficits, but sometimes the shortcomings can't be compensated. At first you have to pass the LooksTest (at least >5/10), if you pass, further testings will be conducted, that's when personality/social status matters. An ugly man will never pass these requirements no matter what he does. A foid will be able to forget about the mental issues of a chad (>9/10), but a normie/ugly person with mental issues will mostly become one of us. And sometimes you are fucked in every possible way, then you are a TrueCel.
Take me for example: I am not physically attractive, but it's not one gross shortcoming, but rather the sum of said shortcomings (akne, manlet, crooked nose, deformed fingers, dirty blond hair, cold & dispassionate eyes, skinny-fat, discoloured teeth) and then we add the mental issues (ADHD, probably ASPD, average IQ) and the low social status. None of said shortcomings would justify a status as an incel, none of them is gross enough to make me an Incel on its own, but the sum of said deficits renders me unable to receive love from a foid. Sometimes people have one problem that prevents them from ascending, but sometimes the sum of problems hinders ascension. The ugly face and mental health issues are only the tip of the iceberg.

 

[Felix97]

I’m literally laying out the importance of genetics in something other than looks and I’m the bluepilled one? Go fuck yourself.

Women want to date someone that is well respected, maybe even feared, having a high iq helps towards achieving that goal.

No, you go back to IT you bluepilled cuck. Having a high IQ doesn‘t help anything that is related to dating foids. Especially prime foids. What gets you respect from both women and men is tallness, decent facial bone structure, wide frame, dominant behaviour, deep voice, having big friends cycles etc.etc. Stuff like these, but not IQ.

 

[everythingislava]

So you're not really into the incel community for the "looks" aspect, but because of the "rejected by women" aspect???

Do you find yourself posting about looks anyway, though?

Every now and then, however it's not my main focus. I think everyone - including most normies - knows that the blackpill is true, however denies it for some odd reason or tries to justify it with rare exceptions. It's an interesting enough topic to post about even though I wouldn't consider it my main problem despite being below average looking (which most shut-in NEETS are bound to be after a while of not taking care of themselves).

The incel community advises looksmaxxing for those whose problem is looks, but I have yet to read a sanitymaxxing or NTmaxxing guide written in seriousness. If the community is made up of ugly guys and mentaly ill guys, there should be at least SOME or at least a HANDFUL of tips about NTmaxxing. Obviously, you can't cure autism, but there is no attempt to even come off as more normal, i.e. no mentalcels post links to behavioural information to help mentalcels navigate certain situations.

The main issue with this is that being a mentalcel is highly stigmatized on here - any NTmaxxing guide would be misconstrued for the bluepilled 'just be confident' advice.
Also, keep in mind that looksmaxxing is fairly straightforward as working out, eating correctly, getting a proper haircut and even surgery are all things that can be approached rationally which is not the case for mental illness.

 

[jerrycan dan]

In an office, an iq of 90 is not going to mog an iq of 130, everything else being roughly equal.

I disagree on this, an IQ of 90 isn't even one standard deviation below the mean. If he's Chad enough to get respect from men and women in the office just by existing he can easily mog a subhuman 130 IQ underling. People are social primates, not calculators.

 

[Opus132]

Mentalcels should take whatever substance it takes to make them talk to women and memorize some phrases/routines.

Doesn't work. Alcohol takes your inhibition away but it can't help you behave normally. ER is a prime example. Being a mentalcel means you can't be normal around other people, and the anxiety comes from that, not the other way around.

 

[TheIncelStaresBack]

No, you go back to IT you bluepilled cuck. Having a high IQ doesn‘t help anything that is related to dating foids. Especially prime foids. What gets you respect from both women and men is tallness, decent facial bone structure, wide frame, dominant behaviour, deep voice, having big friends cycles etc.etc. Stuff like these, but not IQ.

Good luck having dominant behavior if you’re dumb as a rock. High iq is one of the prereqs for dominant behavior, unless you live in a trailer park.

I disagree on this, an IQ of 90 isn't even one standard deviation below the mean. If he's Chad enough to get respect from men and women in the office just by existing he can easily mog a subhuman 130 IQ underling. People are social primates, not calculators.

I agree, to a point, that’s why I put the caveat of everything else (ie looks) being roughly equal.