If you ever ascend, were you always a fakecel?

[daydreamER]

If you have a true ascension (no betabuxxing, geomaxxing, etc) then in most cases, were you even an incel in the first place? You already had that capacity within you if it ever happens, so you would be a volcel at best.

I don’t know if what I am saying makes sense, what do you think?

 

[JewApologist]

yes

 

[PrinceArthas]

I mean sure. but it's mainly people who surgerymaxx.

 

[NocturnalCel]

I think so, I don't even want to ascend. I'm so black pilled. I despise foids and humanity.

 

[anandkonda29]

it's like asking if an infant grew up to be an adult, was the infant always an adult?

 

[light painted car]

yes

 

[daydreamER]

it's like asking if an infant grew up to be an adult, was the infant always an adult?

I don’t think that is an apt comparison. It more like if someone always had an ability, but found out about it later. If you ascend, it means you always had that ability, so you were never a true incel in the first place.

Inceldom could also just refer to a temporary state though, but on this forum if you have even hugged or kissed a foid, you are (rightfully) labelled a fakecel.

 

[Roastie Crusher]

around foids always be paranoid

 

[Kinkcel1]

yes

 

[Fevet]

Yes

 

[anandkonda29]

I don’t think that is an apt comparison. It more like if someone always had an ability, but found out about it later. If you ascend, it means you always had that ability, so you were never a true incel in the first place.

If you ascended maybe you weren't a truecel, but incel for sure

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

Yes

 

[InsidiousMerchant]

This begs the question on whether or not fatcels can be considered as trucels.

 

[Lazyandtalentless]

Yea that means you’re actually attractive enough to attract a girl

 

[daydreamER]

This begs the question on whether or not fatcels can be considered as trucels.

Here are my thoughts on this:
https://incels.is/threads/the-fatcel-experience-schrodingers-incel.669336/

 

[BurtCocaine]

I’m conflicted on this one. ThERe are ways to ascend as a trucel, but they almost always are expensive (looksmaxx, geomaxx, betabuxx, etc). On one hand, ascension is ascension, and trucels betabuxxing a foid could make you ascend, but on the othER hand, are they legitimate methods of ascension?

 

[FuckNoNutNovember]

Depends

 

[InsidiousMerchant]

Here are my thoughts on this:
https://incels.is/threads/the-fatcel-experience-schrodingers-incel.669336/

I believe in you.

 

[daydreamER]

I’m conflicted on this one. ThERe are ways to ascend as a trucel, but they almost always are expensive (looksmaxx, geomaxx, betabuxx, etc). On one hand, ascension is ascension, and trucels betabuxxing a foid could make you ascend, but on the othER hand, are they legitimate methods of ascension?

I don’t count betabuxxing as a true ascension. I would rather stay an incel for life than betabuxx a foid. Any oofy doofy can betabuxx a used up whore.

 

[Skelly]

(no betabuxxing, geomaxxing, etc)

had a long ass reply until i read this lol

if a female simply hands you pussy then yes you are fakecel

 

[daydreamER]

I believe in you.

Thanks, brocel. Do you agree with what I said about the inceldom status of fatcels (4th paragraph)?

 

[weaselbomber]

I don’t think that is an apt comparison. It more like if someone always had an ability, but found out about it later.

But what if he never does? What is he then?

 

[Todd Thundercock]

I think those who "ascend" (whatever that actually means) but are stuck in nearcel status with no real chance of a healthy, loving relationship should still be allowed here. But, I'm biased.

 

[Notkev]

If you have a true ascension (no betabuxxing, geomaxxing, etc) then in most cases, were you even an incel in the first place? You already had that capacity within you if it ever happens, so you would be a volcel at best.

I don’t know if what I am saying makes sense, what do you think?

I get what you're saying but let's not get lost in terminologies. I really hope we ascend. That would mean we suffer a bit less.

 

[prajeet88]

no betabuxxing

that's standard normie ascension.

 

[daydreamER]

But what if he never does? What is he then?

If he never finds out that he has the capacity to ascend? If you equate capacity to ascend to looks, height, ethnicity, and NT-ness, then it is always obvious if someone will ascend or not. The vast majority of users who ascend don’t have serious deficiencies in any of these categories. Look at the most recent ascension, sure his face was bad, but his height was around average for his country, he was white, and he was extremely NT.

 

[daydreamER]

that's standard normie ascension.

The average age to lose virginity in the west is around 17. Who is betabuxxing at that age?

 

[weaselbomber]

If he never finds out that he has the capacity to ascend? If you equate capacity to ascend to looks, height, ethnicity, and NT-ness, then it is always obvious if someone will ascend or not. The vast majority of users who ascend don’t have serious deficiencies in any of these categories. Look at the most recent ascension, sure his face was bad, but his height was around average for his country, he was white, and he was extremely NT.

Yes, but life is a game of numbers. There are bound to be outliers. The only thing guaranteed in life is death.

 

[Vakasneb3856]

If its excluding your factors I would say yes due to the fact they were desirable to a woman and not how useful they are to a foid.

 

[daydreamER]

Yes, but life is a game of numbers. There are bound to be outliers. The only thing guaranteed in life is death.

You shouldn’t base your views on outliers.That is what the average normie or incel in denial does: dream of outliers of financial, romantic, or other type of success. Most people can’t get it in their head that the average person won’t succeed.

 

[weaselbomber]

You shouldn’t base your views on outliers.That is what the average normie or incel in denial does: dream of outliers of financial, romantic, or other type of success. Most people can’t get it in their head that the average person won’t succeed.

That's not what I mean. What I mean is that statistically there are people that should ascend but die alone, and people that should be rotting on this forum but ascend. And they usually are unaware that realistically they'd belong on the opposite end of the spectrum, because reality is cruel like that.
What I'm trying to say is, no one knows until it actually happens.

 

[daydreamER]

That's not what I mean. What I mean is that statistically there are people that should ascend but die alone, and people that should be rotting on this forum but ascend. And they usually are unaware that realistically they'd belong on the opposite end of the spectrum, because reality is cruel like that.
What I'm trying to say is, no one knows until it actually happens.

I see what you mean now. I agree, some of us might actually have been unlucky and truly believe we are incels when we have the capacity to ascend. Inceldom (KHHVdom, to be more accurate) as a whole is a rare thing, after all. We are part of the statistical minority.

 

[prajeet88]

The average age to lose virginity in the west is around 17. Who is betabuxxing at that age?

Maybe guys are lying?

 

[Grey Man]

If you have a true ascension (no betabuxxing, geomaxxing, etc) then in most cases, were you even an incel in the first place? You already had that capacity within you if it ever happens, so you would be a volcel at best.

I don’t know if what I am saying makes sense, what do you think?

Slightly unrelated but there was a girl who I think liked me a few years ago, does this make me always fakecel?

 

[Corvus]

No

 

[Chang.Beijing]

If you have a true ascension (no betabuxxing, geomaxxing, etc) then in most cases, were you even an incel in the first place? You already had that capacity within you if it ever happens, so you would be a volcel at best.

I don’t know if what I am saying makes sense, what do you think?

Thats almost non existent

 

[Grodd]

Yea that means you’re actually attractive enough to attract a girl

 

[DioptricAtol]

If you ever ascend but can't again, are you an incel?

 

[RegularManlet]

I think there is being an incel, then being a truecel where its giga over

 

[InsidiousMerchant]

Thanks, brocel. Do you agree with what I said about the inceldom status of fatcels (4th paragraph)?

Yep. High-IQ pilled. For example, I've always thought it was the fat that held me back, but even after getting lean and mean, it didn't do anything for me really in terms of looks. I just lost hope at the prospect of being attractive. But I've seen fatcels ascend and believe it's possible. I'm just a product of exceptional flaws.

 

[Neucher Koala]

honestly if I knew I was a fakecel/dirty dirty sexhaver why wouldn't I just kill myself on the spot how do you even live with that knowledge

 

[late20scel]

I think so, I don't even want to ascend. I'm so black pilled. I despise foids and humanity.

This. I have given up on women and relationships.

 

[joocel52]

A "true" trucel is rare tbh, most memebers of this site would and probably will find a way to ascend - however that will be at a late age, require tons of effort (geomaxxxing for example) and often will be a compromise... thus it is unlike what normies experience. as society becomes hypergamous ever more so, more men will find themselves in our situation.
so in other words yes trucels are actually quite rare, but that doesnt change the situation here.

 

[LeFrenchCel]

Depends on your past and/or your stats imo

 

[Penguin]

Idk maybe there's a magic "luckpill"

 

[NeverGetUp]

Idk maybe there's a magic "luckpill"

Maybe...

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[fatass30000]

no. Incel = involuntary celibate. If you were involuntary celibate for the first 20 years of your life then you were a incel, simple as. If you had sex then you stop being involuntary celibate, but that doesn’t mean that you weren’t involuntary celibate in the past. You were still incel.

 

[fatass30000]

it's like asking if an infant grew up to be an adult, was the infant always an adult?

 

[Puppeter]

yes unless he surgerymaxxed or became richfag

 

[fatass30000]

I don’t think that is an apt comparison. It more like if someone always had an ability, but found out about it later. If you ascend, it means you always had that ability, so you were never a true incel in the first place.

just because you ascended doesn’t mean that you always had that ability. A incel could get lucky and find a woman who doesn’t care that much about looks and has a lot of common interests with. I have seen guys who are sub 5 and short who get gfs. A lot of relationships come down to luck, finding the right person at the right time. The thing is, that when you’re ugly and non nt, finding the right person is EXTREMELY rare and will probably never happen to most of us, but it will probably happen to some people here.