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Discussion If people really didn't care whether men were able to get women or not, the sour grapes charge wouldn't be used when men said they don't care either

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Perhaps some of you have seen this chart.
Nevertheless at some level people here are familiar with the sour grapes charge whenever they criticize women, feminism or even society in general when it privileges women:

"lmao you're just mad you couldn't get any", "can't get a date and big mad huh?", "lol y'all salty cause you can't get no pussy".

And yet even outside of criticizing women should a guy talk about how he doesn't care about attracting women he is hit with accusations of having a small dick, "we get it you couldn't get a woman" and similar types of shaming.
Whenever the idea of men trying to find solace in being single is brought up in a group there are always humblebragging normies coming in and talking about how while they pretend to understand and assume you are hurt, a relationship brings many benefits and that they feel sorry for you because you are expressing being okay with being alone.
It even happens in explicitly incel communities where humblebragging normies have to mention "I actually have a gf and I agree with this haha" and when told nobody cares and to stop mentioning something so pointlessly, they start virgin shaming.

Simply put normies demonstrate through their actions that not only do they judge men on whether they can get women or not, they also don't want men to live in ignorance of whether it's possible for them to get women and feel the need to imply it's sour grapes every time to rub it in.
Example:

"I don't really care about women."
"More like you can't get a woman!"

"Sex is overrated I don't really care about it."
"Seems like something a virgin would say but okay."

"I actually think women are more trouble than it is worth it."
"Lol sure bud whatever helps you sleep at night."

Not only are normies happy when they see nonchad men that can't get women, they sadistically want them to know this and will point it out if they seem blisfully unaware or seemingly not phased by it. Women especially but many men are at fault for doing this too.
If people didn't really care nobody would say anything when nonchad men say they are fine not being validated or having attention from women. But infact when such nonchad men do say it especially on social media people come out of the woodwork completely unwarranted to mock them and start attacking them with personal insults like how they have a small dick, are insecure, couldn't get a woman to begin with. Even IRL people will always make it a point to say you proclaiming you are fine if women don't like you and you can live with it to be "sad" and "pathetic".

And if you claim you'd rather not deal with women since you know you aren't going to get anything out of it you are mocked about how you couldn't get a woman anyway and harassed about what you are missing out on and people insist you are just butthurt. These are some of the same people that would otherwise tell you relationships aren't everything and to focus on yourself in other circumstances.

In anti-incel harrassment groups the response of incels joking about fat women or saying they'd rather not stoop to that level when they are themselves thin, is to instead of just taking it as is, is to have to get in the jab of things like "not like she would even consider you/those guys anyway and you're just mad about it XD".
What happened? All that talk of how it doesn't matter whether you are successful with women or not. Yet it's the first thing they attack you on.
Talk about how a woman is old, ugly and delusional and expects chads? The people in those groups again jump to the conclusion that you are just bitter you can't get those women, that the woman you were talking about would reject you anyway and sometimes even say "I don't think women are missing out on much" preemptively without even knowing you.


If normies didn't really care they wouldn't go out of their way to point out so blatantly that any nonchad men realizing their lack of luck with women and living with it is just sour grapes.
 
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Arguing with holes done from both women and men smh
 
Arguing with holes done from both women and men smh
Seriously soyciety is making it so nonchad males can't even feel like they can find some women unattractive. It's all "beggars can't be choosers", "not like you have a choice anyway", "lol I don't think you are in a position to be picky bud" taunts.
 
Very solid post OP, I agree with basically everything

I think the catalyst for them giving this reaction, the humblebragging and trying to shame you, comes from their ego feeling a bit insulted if you say women aren't worth it. Like I understand it sounds ridiculous from an incels point of view but you can see this with really any "hobby" so to speak. If someone is a car enthusiast and he happens to hear you say that you think cars aren't worth the hassle you will likely recieve blowback such as
- You don't like freedom
- You're just lazy
- You must be a poorfag
Just one example, but you know personally these aren't valid arguments. You most likely just did the calculation on the car, you're opportunity cost if say you have easy access to public transport and so on. But yeah, I used to say stuff like "I don't wanna get a girlfriend because its too much work" when I was younger and often got those types of responses, I don't do it anymore
 
Seriously soyciety is making it so nonchad males can't even feel like they can find some women unattractive. It's all "beggars can't be choosers", "not like you have a choice anyway", "lol I don't think you are in a position to be picky bud" taunts.
Women can shit on men 24/7 for things linked to genetics like race, height and balding and be applauded on social media for it

Men can't even mention bad female BEHAVIOR (ie things they choose to do and have control over) such as being obese, being a giga slut, getting pregnant out of wedlock, having an abortion etc
 
Women can shit on men 24/7 for things linked to genetics like race, height and balding and be applauded on social media for it

Men can't even mention bad female BEHAVIOR (ie things they choose to do and have control over) such as being obese, being a giga slut, getting pregnant out of wedlock, having an abortion etc

View: https://twitter.com/yogioabs/status/1276176751467642881

Look at the replies

Very solid post OP, I agree with basically everything

I think the catalyst for them giving this reaction, the humblebragging and trying to shame you, comes from their ego feeling a bit insulted if you say women aren't worth it. Like I understand it sounds ridiculous from an incels point of view but you can see this with really any "hobby" so to speak. If someone is a car enthusiast and he happens to hear you say that you think cars aren't worth the hassle you will likely recieve blowback such as
- You don't like freedom
- You're just lazy
- You must be a poorfag
Just one example, but you know personally these aren't valid arguments. You most likely just did the calculation on the car, you're opportunity cost if say you have easy access to public transport and so on. But yeah, I used to say stuff like "I don't wanna get a girlfriend because its too much work" when I was younger and often got those types of responses, I don't do it anymore
The irony is following bluepilled advice and having your own opinions gets you in more trouble and way more mocked as a male than having the view that redpilled gynocentric males keep preaching about how women have inherent value but men don't and have to earn it.
The fact feminists are fine with this and fall back on biological arguments when talking about things like conscription showed me they weren't serious about equality. It's all about self interest but pursued from a dishonest position with shaming, gaslighting and bullying if you dare recognize the disingenuous nature of things.
 
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"Sex is overrated I don't really care about it."
"Seems like something a virgin would say but okay."
I mean, there might be some truth to it. If I had the option of having sex with the kinda people I like, I wouldn't be obsesing over it. My work discusses sex, porn addiction and other related themes to a focused degree. But If I was having sex, it would be unlikely that sex would even make it into my work at all. It would be like a christopher nolan movie, where there is little to no sex at all.
 
I mean, there might be some truth to it. If I had the option of having sex with the kinda people I like, I wouldn't be obsesing over it. My work discusses sex, porn addiction and other related themes to a focused degree. But If I was having sex, it would be unlikely that sex would even make it into my work at all. It would be like a christopher nolan movie, where there is little to no sex at all.
Whether it has some truth or not is kind of besides the point. My point is normies don't act in the supposedly nonjudgemental way that they say they do about whether a man can get a woman or not . They do things like this and then wonder why incels get mad when they later tell them it doesn't matter that much and to stop focusing on it, while the minute incels start agreeing and saying they might be better off that way they start making it a point to call them out for sour grapes.
 
JFL they are as predictable as simple bots :feelshaha:
tbh and as always when it is a curry male the most hateful comments are predominately from curry foids. It is always foids of your race that will hate you the most and make a point out of it if you are an incel or unattractive normie usually unlucky with women.

This shit is right in the open for anyone that has a few minutes to look at it. Imagine being an ethnic incel and not realizing how much women hate you the minute you say something that society thinks only good looking normie tier white and black guys can say.
 
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Very solid post OP, I agree with basically everything
I would had that the feminist rhetoric consists in enforcing a sentiment of culpability into men in favor of women. "Men should give everything to women and men are guilty if ugly women are unhappy with their normie vanilla husband." The thing is this idiotic narrative is completely blind to the fact that incels are the real dominated class on the actual sexual market, and thus this culpability rhetoric has no power on us. Meanwhile, Chads keep behaving like assholes, because even if this rhetoric is primarily addressed to them, the dominant class of men, they are too busy fucking whores all day to even give a shit.
 
Some people would argue about the tweets: but this guy tweeted out a problematic rapey tweet about alcohol and consent so that's why he's getting the hostile sour grapes accusation responses to all his other tweets.

View: https://twitter.com/yogioabs/status/1208582793170767872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


But then there's also the situation with guys with no history of saying anything misogynistic or rapey being told IRL

"looks like they (women) will be better off for it."
"go ahead, you're probably doing them a favor."
"yes I agree please stay away from us sincerely, all women."
"That's fine. They probably didn't want you anyway."

in response to unattractive males talking about their frustrations with women IRL and saying they want to give up on chasing after them because they don't seem worth it.

Oh the hostility is because the male that expressed this frustration came off as standoffish? What's this? Examining it further it looks like the male was considered too cocky and looked like they were looking at things the wrong way? So then it is about how you look to start with.
 
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i must kill them all
There are millions of people that think this way though. It's not just them. That's the part of the realization of the blackpill. You are outnumbered by such people that privilege women over men and there are more always waiting to come out of the woodwork.
 

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