Serious if most men are unattractive, then whats the point of attraction-based selection?

[jet112]

there are multiple theories to this.

1.its because attraction was never really a dealbreaker in previous generations. an ugly landlord could mary 10 different woman

2. men got uglier over time because their T levels got shot to hell

3. men are simply ugly by default, and the few lucky ones that spawned out of supermodel genes were born into the world

regardless of the outcome, it is obvious that on average, females are more attractive than men are, so whats the point of this chance-based reproduction?
im not saying it has to be fair, but nature is supposed to be balanced

 

[Evildoer]

f most men are unattractive, then whats the point of attraction-based selection?

To increase natural selection success rate. Femoids choose the most strong and powerful male to have good offsprings, more likely to to make survival of the species even further. The problem is femoids can't determine your genes, so they rely on traits associated with good genes, but not genes themselves, like thickest beard, tallest, bulkiset, strong jawline, etc.

 

[jet112]

To increase natural selection success rate. Femoids choose the most strong and powerful male to have good offsprings, more likely to to make survival of the species even further. The problem is femoids can't determine your genes, so they rely on traits associated with good genes, but not genes themselves, like thickest beard, tallest, bulkiset, strong jawline, etc.

ok lets back up for a minute

if this is the general thesis, then how did we end up in this situation? our race should have evolved on the chad side since most of us were pre-selected before

 

[Evildoer]

ok lets back up for a minute

if this is the general thesis, then how did we end up in this situation? our race should have evolved on the chad side since most of us were pre-selected before

We weren't. There was a natural selection as well, all strong Chads could go to war with neanderthal tribe and die, while sneaky incel with gay alien skull raped women and impregnated them. Also genetic recombination, that's why having multiple kids is more efficient, as one only kid could always be ugly, despite good genes parents.

 

[Weirdcel]

it is obvious that on average, females are more attractive than men are

I'm not sure if this is true. Without make up and tight clothing, women are on par with men when it comes to how attractive they are. Not to mention women are more likely to be obese. I think it's just that men are horny as fuck while women reserve their thorniness for the top tier males.

 

[jet112]

We weren't. There was a natural selection as well, all strong Chads could go to war with neanderthal tribe and die, while sneaky incel with gay alien skull raped women and impregnated them. Also genetic recombination, that's why having multiple kids is more efficient, as one only kid could always be ugly, despite good genes parents.

thanks for the chuckle

 

[Robtical]

Attraction is random in most species, and femoids are dumb. Even female goats used to chase the male goats with the biggest antlers until they were too big for them to walk anymore. There is no reason for a femoid to choose a pretty boy thug, over a stable in shape man who will treat her well and look after her. That's why femoids must be controlled, or at least take all their privileges and pussy passes away.

 

[Evildoer]

Attraction is random in most species, and femoids are dumb. Even female goats used to chase the male goats with the biggest antlers until they were too big for them to walk anymore.

Excellent point and extremely high IQ post overall. Femoids are not perfect good genes check machine and sometimes their "selection" result in complete extinction of the species.

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/mammal/artio/irishelk.html

 

[Robtical]

Excellent point and extremely high IQ post overall. Femoids are not perfect good genes check machine and sometimes their "selection" result in complete extinction of the species.

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/mammal/artio/irishelk.html

Thanks for the study. Oh yeah, it was deers, not goats, lol.

 

[Weightcel]

Attraction is random in most species, and femoids are dumb. Even female goats used to chase the male goats with the biggest antlers until they were too big for them to walk anymore. There is no reason for a femoid to choose a pretty boy thug, over a stable in shape man who will treat her well and look after her. That's why femoids must be controlled, or at least take all their privileges and pussy passes away.

Excellent point and extremely high IQ post overall. Femoids are not perfect good genes check machine and sometimes their "selection" result in complete extinction of the species.

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/mammal/artio/irishelk.html

Wow that's interesting as fuck.

Tfw foids will lead us to extinction by breeding with low IQ morons because their jawline. Cope though since facial attractiveness is correlated with intelligence but whatever.

 

[jet112]

Wow that's interesting as fuck.

Tfw foids will lead us to extinction by breeding with low IQ morons because their jawline. Cope though since facial attractiveness is correlated with intelligence but whatever.

not in absolutes. google the most successful inventors faces

 

[Robtical]

Wow that's interesting as fuck.

Tfw foids will lead us to extinction by breeding with low IQ morons because their jawline. Cope though since facial attractiveness is correlated with intelligence but whatever.

I haven't noticed chads are smarter. It may appear that way because of all the social validation they've received throughout their lives. But even if chads really were smarter it doesn't matter, femoids don't have kids with chads, they stay on birth control until their mid to late 30's, then they finally decide to settle down with a weak cucked soyboy. So not only are the genes going to turn out shit if we let femoids fuck whoever they want without shaming them, they're also going to have other complications from the femoid's old age.

 

[Opus132]

I think the rise of cinema, mass media, telecommunication in general and the ease and speed in which people can move about in modern society is part of the problem. Not the main cause, but certainly one of the main factors. In traditional societies, there wasn't a great deal of movement among groups and communities and people had little exposure to the outside world. In a normal sized town, it was fairly guaranteed people would match according to their looks. There would be an handful of chads who would all be taken by the local stacies, and that would be the end of it. No constant exposure to giga chads in movies or advertisement. No internet to find chads from remove towns and no cars to reach those chads quickly. Each town was an isolated and closely knit community, and women had nothing else to look out for except what the town provided. Only in big cities you would find something analogous to what is happening today but even then it still wouldn't compare.

 

[PleaseKillMeLoseSkin]

The point is the most attractive get to mate and the rest of us get to eat all the scraps.

 

[Wargreymon_Oz]

Being “very attractive” increases the odds of having a daughter by 36% or decreases the odds of having a son by 26%

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/...r-girl-what-determines-the-sex-your-child-iii

 

[Mainländer]

Ancient sex was rape pretty much. Women never had even close the amount of freedom they have today in western societies.

Women are picky, spoiled and full of shit, they are supposed to be forced into doing the things they must do.

Have you ever seen how cats have sex? The male cat goes for it, the female cat resists. The male cat goes for it, the female cat resists. The male cat goes for it, the female cat resists. The male cat goes for it, the female cat resists. The male cat goes for it, the female cat resists. The male cat goes for it, the female cat resists. The male cat goes for it, the female cat resists.

Then finally she gives in and they have sex.

 

[Robtical]

Ancient sex was rape pretty much. Women never had even close the amount of freedom they have today in western societies.

Women are picky, spoiled and full of shit, they are supposed to be forced into doing the things they must do.

That's why men are the logical and stronger ones. We're supposed to be in control. Not sitting at home sending messages to hoes and hoping they write back.

 

[CaptainCuck]

Excellent point and extremely high IQ post overall. Femoids are not perfect good genes check machine and sometimes their "selection" result in complete extinction of the species.

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/mammal/artio/irishelk.html

Reminds me of the article once posted here about the Smilodon that its huge big fangs were the result of sexual selection. The large fangs presented numerous problems which helped bring about the mammal's extinction.

 

[Mainländer]

That's why men are the logical and stronger ones. We're supposed to be in control. Not sitting at home sending messages to hoes and hoping they write back.

The current state of things is bizarre because men are using their superior strength not to command foids but to guarantee foids any freedom that they want. Even the freedom not to have kids and sink the fertility rate of a place to unsustainable levels, even the freedom to have sex with an invader tribe (like it's happening in Europe).

It's absolutely crazy. It's the craziest thing that ever happened.

 

[Robtical]

The current state of things is bizarre because men are using their superior strength not to command foids but to guarantee foids any freedom that they want. Even the freedom not to have kids and sink the fertility rate of a place to unsustainable levels, even the freedom to have sex with an invader tribe (like it's happening in Europe).

It's absolutely crazy. It's the craziest thing that ever happened.

It's a sickness that's taken over men called cuckedom. We need to shame those cucks at the very least, and the whiteknight fags. Isolating them from this site is a good idea that can be used in other places, when men start acting like cucks.

 

[Evildoer]

It's absolutely crazy. It's the craziest thing that ever happened.

There are one craziest thing so far. Cucks call that "equality". Now that is crazy.

 

[Mainländer]

It's a sickness that's taken over men called cuckedom. We need to shame those cucks at the very least, and the whiteknight fags. Isolating them from this site is a good idea that can be used in other places, when men start acting like cucks.

I think we're so far gone that only a total collapse could save us. You're familiar with Turd Flinging Monkey, he talked about it in this vid and I agree.

But even though what you mentioned wouldn't solve the problem IMO, we must still do it because cucks deserve everything bad.

 

[Robtical]

But even though what you mentioned wouldn't solve the problem IMO, we must still do it because cucks deserve everything bad.

I know TFM, but I don't agree with him all the time. He's even an AoC cuck. If we shame cucks and whores really bad, things will change. Only a few guys like catfishman and others make a huge difference, imagine if there are thousands or millions of blackpilled men doing the same thing? The blackpill can't be untaught, so it can only spread.

 

[Mainländer]

I know TFM, but I don't agree with him all the time. He's even an AoC cuck. If we shame cucks and whores really bad, things will change. Only a few guys like catfishman and others make a huge difference, imagine if there are thousands or millions of blackpilled men doing the same thing? The blackpill can't be untaught, so it can only spread.

It can help tbh, but I just can't see it really solving the problem. I encourage it in any case, I think catfishman is a legit hero of our modern crazy times.

Yeah, I remember you mentioning he's an AoC cuck, I didn't find the video that proves that though. A huge disappointment tbh, he's otherwise based.

 

[monkeyman]

Does it have to have a point? No 3 is closest to the truth for what it's worth. You'll see the pattern in many species, where a small % of males have a disproportionate share of mates, while the great majority struggle to find just one, which seems to suggest that most males are simply unattractive. This appears to be the default setting of the natural world so to speak.

Any semblance of balance lies in the fact that males have the capacity (although not always the will) to enforce systematic pair bonding, thereby granting the majority a chance to mate. It's an interesting question, why at certain times we follow a strict adherence to this practice while at other times allowing only a few to reproduce. In any case, there is balance in the way we cycle through different mating systems.

 

[kantero]

Wow that's interesting as fuck.

Tfw foids will lead us to extinction by breeding with low IQ morons because their jawline. Cope though since facial attractiveness is correlated with intelligence but whatever.

Its halo, halo =/= reality

 

[ICanOnlyFapToBDSM]

makeup hypergamy

 

[Nemo9065]

I don't get how after thousands of years of natural selection we still have subhumans. The indian subcontinent makes some sense, after all their passing of genes isnt held in look standards. But what about the rest of the world? Wouldn't balding prematurely, autism, down syndrome, retardation and introverts be breeded out by now? The standards are increasing for whats acceptable to females but we still have all of those aformentioned deformities still existing and quite pervasive throughout society. Unless of course, breeding has actually lowered the number of these deformities in comparison to our ancestors.

 

[jet112]

I don't get how after thousands of years of natural selection we still have subhumans. The indian subcontinent makes some sense, after all their passing of genes isnt held in look standards. But what about the rest of the world? Wouldn't balding prematurely, autism, down syndrome, retardation and introverts be breeded out by now? The standards are increasing for whats acceptable to females but we still have all of those aformentioned deformities still existing and quite pervasive throughout society. Unless of course, breeding has actually lowered the number of these deformities in comparison to our ancestors.

well there is an explanation to this.. somewhat

1.woman now hold off marriage to their 30 and 40th, this decreases the quality of the egg by quite alot. considering that 30 years ago people would marry at their 20's, even 25 was late marriage.
i mean look at all the mexican kids that cross the border, do you think a white kid could do that shit? something to think about.

2. religious marriages, and cousin marriages - religious people usually procreate with different intentions in mind. their intention was to simply make more children. arranged marriage meant that all your finances and assets were bound to a particular family name etc.
if you simply let commoners have many children, it means lesser genes for the future.

3.kings,novelty and and overall polygamy - no need to explain, less genetic diversity leads to worse genes overall

4. welfare, obese woman, homeless fuckers etc - subhumans tend to breed alot, there is a statistical evidence for that.

and don't get me wrong, i don't think all of those reasons combined is enough to explain this

 

[ArtoriasWolf]

Most men can get women.

 

[EARTH]

I don't get how after thousands of years of natural selection we still have subhumans. The indian subcontinent makes some sense, after all their passing of genes isnt held in look standards. But what about the rest of the world? Wouldn't balding prematurely, autism, down syndrome, retardation and introverts be breeded out by now? The standards are increasing for whats acceptable to females but we still have all of those aformentioned deformities still existing and quite pervasive throughout society. Unless of course, breeding has actually lowered the number of these deformities in comparison to our ancestors.

Introvert is no deformity.

 

[Metalhead☥Goth]

there are multiple theories to this.

1.its because attraction was never really a dealbreaker in previous generations. an ugly landlord could mary 10 different woman

2. men got uglier over time because their T levels got shot to hell

3. men are simply ugly by default, and the few lucky ones that spawned out of supermodel genes were born into the world

regardless of the outcome, it is obvious that on average, females are more attractive than men are, so whats the point of this chance-based reproduction?
im not saying it has to be fair, but nature is supposed to be balanced

I'd have to disagree with that last part. bitches on average arn't more attractive than guys, they just fake it by hiding their flaws with fakeup and wearing clothing that holds in their fat properly

 

[jet112]

I'd have to disagree with that last part. bitches on average arn't more attractive than guys, they just fake it by hiding their flaws with fakeup and wearing clothing that holds in their fat properly

i disagree. since attraction is ESSENTIAL for females to survive, they evolve this way

 

[Metalhead☥Goth]

i disagree. since attraction is ESSENTIAL for females to survive, they evolve this way

yeah, that's what the makeup and clothing does, once they take it off alot look terrible, and ones who I originally looked at and thought ''what guy could get her'' and then I saw them without fakeup and I thought, shit , I wouldn't look twice at her on the street, let alone try chat her up or anything

 

[jet112]

yeah, that's what the makeup and clothing does, once they take it off alot look terrible, and ones who I originally looked at and thought ''what guy could get her'' and then I saw them without fakeup and I thought, shit , I wouldn't look twice at her on the street, let alone try chat her up or anything

i seem to be the only one that thinks woman look worse with makeup.
i find it extremely disgusting for some reason, same with nail polish

 

[averageblokecel]

This is a very high IQ thread ngl