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Ideologies Exist As A Survival Mechanism.

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For an ideology to actually somewhat manifest itself, it requires for a collection of like-minded & characteristically alike individuals to coalesce into some kind of much more larger collective mentality, it requires for some kind of changes to occur within society.

Now to clarify something, everyone who is an adherent to the specific ideology circles it similar to how planets circle a star: You will have those in a very adjacent position with a close proximity, and those whom exist more on the periphery.

In order for these variables to actually coalesce into something greater, it requires for some kind of greater force of nature -such as a societal-civilizational shift- to occur in which the populace are no longer living in comfort & see some kind of threat to their way of life occur: Ideologies also tend to correlate with certain traits, being that of IQ, cognitive ability, religious values, social-class, race, etc.

Essentially, all ideologies exist as is just an accumulation of that: Individuals with various aligned traits & variables whom have been shifted to orbit an ideology -be it in an adjacent position or peripheral one- in order to justify some end-goal & collective accumulation of a desired outcome, albeit in perhaps differing interpretations, yet the core collective thought remains the same. There is no "Left versus Right," but rather "Leftists vs Rightists" whom adhere to a much more broader worldview which manifested itself through their various accumulations of similar traits & for similar needs to be met.

Essentially, everything is rooted in the ideal of Pragmatism, which I attribute virtually all of my worldviews towards, since it is innately American in origins & more characteristically aligned with us:

Pragmatism as a philosophical movement began in the United States around 1870.[2] Charles Sanders Peirce (and his pragmatic maxim) is given credit for its development,[3] along with later 20th-century contributors, William James and John Dewey.[4] Its direction was determined by The Metaphysical Club members Charles Sanders Peirce, William James, and Chauncey Wright as well as John Dewey and George Herbert Mead.

The reason as to why this mentality evolved early on within the United States, was due to the sheer need for it early on: Most early settlers, colonists, etc. such as my ancestors would have needed a mentality similar to this in order to survive, due to the unfamiliarity of the new continent & conflict with Natives, Outlaws, and the such.

However, it of course stems from that of the mentality which many in Europe have, due to the sheer climate & environment of it being one which requires for longer-term planning which thus amounts to adhering to whatever stems from the most efficient & favorable outcomes.

For example, most of humanity existed within the natural state up until the Industrial Revolution: Every civilization which existed up until this point effectively adhered to this, since it had structured class-roles although they arguably were socialist within some metrics, due to the fact the upper-classes understood the need for the lower-classes to exist with their needs adhered to & taken care of, with the leading monarch or church often intervening to keep the rule of local leaders or merchants under some kind of system which worked effectively for the collective good. Similarly, guild systems also existed as a manner of individuals whom needed their needs met or voices heard to accommodate for what they saw as most pragmatic: Again, these followed some natural state which allowed for those whom are most suited for a role to take it.

From my reading of many earlier European societies, mainly Germanic ones, it appears as if they all adhered to patterns similar to this. Functioning purely on a pragmatic scale, whilst also seemingly holding some degree of adherence to the natural state & peoples inherent capabilities.

Now when we fast-forward a bit, we see many new ideologies emerge towards that of the reaction to changing circumstances: For example, National Socialism rose as a reaction to not only the lose & consequences of it Germany experienced after WW1, but also the rising Red tide which already had ascertained control over Russia & was attempting to subvert various nation-states globally. In essence, there was no "National Socialism" but merely just "National Socialists" who stood as some kind of pragmatic reaction towards that of both Judeo-Bolshevism & Liberal Democracy, which regardless of who was behind them effectively represented the two "sides of the same coin" so to speak, due to preaching a false notion of egalitarianism.

Everyone who adheres to a central ideology -even if it technically doesn't exist or its adherents know it's kind of bullshit- do so under the pretext of either self-preservation, or self-gain.
 
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Hitler's National Socialism is the best example of this. Germany was dying before he took over.
 
Never thought of it that way tbh. High IQ post, well written.
Hitler's National Socialism is the best example of this. Germany was dying before he took over.
Yeah, many of history's greatest leaders (regardless of whether you agree with the ideologies they represent or not) emerged under similar circumstances. Napoleon is another example. But there are more recent cases too.
 
High IQ thread as always. I never thought about this before really but it makes a lot of sense
Hitler's National Socialism is the best example of this. Germany was dying before he took over.
Yes exactly :yes:
 
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:yes: High IQ as always.
 
:yes: High IQ as always.
High IQ thread as always. I never thought about this before really but it makes a lot of sense

Yes exactly :yes:
Never thought of it that way tbh. High IQ post, well written.
thanks boyos. :feelsYall:
Yeah, many of history's greatest leaders (regardless of whether you agree with the ideologies they represent or not) emerged under similar circumstances. Napoleon is another example. But there are more recent cases too.
This is correct.

No French Revolution, and Napoleon would have just been another...well you know General.
 
That's why it's a good sign whenever quality of life is getting worse. The average normie has no choice but to go to the radical side. Even now in my country everyone is politically passive but with these shitskins coming they will be forced to do something about it. Either your tribe survives or it goes extinct. Toilets don't give a flying fuck about the tribe so they aren't loyal to any ideology.
 
This makes sense as the more extreme ideologies rise up in times of turmoil
 
Ideologies exist because we are primates trying to figure out how nature and the world work and we want to be near people who think like us and use violence against people who think differently and act differently. We are still primates that gather in tribes.
 
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Very based thread. Normie social media should regularly be reminded the slaves were freed when it was economically possible for them to be so. For thousands of years people thought sinning was instant, irreversible hell because cultures that didn't rape and then kill each other into weakness were out competed by cultures that feared punishment. Then some guy comes around and says you don't have to suffer in hell for saying damn when you are 15, and mind numbingly stupid species rejoices. Would not have worked if he did it 1000 years earlier, in fact someone probably did and we don't know about it because it didn't work
 
For an ideology to actually somewhat manifest itself, it requires for a collection of like-minded & characteristically alike individuals to coalesce into some kind of much more larger collective mentality, it requires for some kind of changes to occur within society.

Now to clarify something, everyone who is an adherent to the specific ideology circles it similar to how planets circle a star: You will have those in a very adjacent position with a close proximity, and those whom exist more on the periphery.

In order for these variables to actually coalesce into something greater, it requires for some kind of greater force of nature -such as a societal-civilizational shift- to occur in which the populace are no longer living in comfort & see some kind of threat to their way of life occur: Ideologies also tend to correlate with certain traits, being that of IQ, cognitive ability, religious values, social-class, race, etc.

Essentially, all ideologies exist as is just an accumulation of that: Individuals with various aligned traits & variables whom have been shifted to orbit an ideology -be it in an adjacent position or peripheral one- in order to justify some end-goal & collective accumulation of a desired outcome, albeit in perhaps differing interpretations, yet the core collective thought remains the same. There is no "Left versus Right," but rather "Leftists vs Rightists" whom adhere to a much more broader worldview which manifested itself through their various accumulations of similar traits & for similar needs to be met.

Essentially, everything is rooted in the ideal of Pragmatism, which I attribute virtually all of my worldviews towards, since it is innately American in origins & more characteristically aligned with us:



The reason as to why this mentality evolved early on within the United States, was due to the sheer need for it early on: Most early settlers, colonists, etc. such as my ancestors would have needed a mentality similar to this in order to survive, due to the unfamiliarity of the new continent & conflict with Natives, Outlaws, and the such.

However, it of course stems from that of the mentality which many in Europe have, due to the sheer climate & environment of it being one which requires for longer-term planning which thus amounts to adhering to whatever stems from the most efficient & favorable outcomes.

For example, most of humanity existed within the natural state up until the Industrial Revolution: Every civilization which existed up until this point effectively adhered to this, since it had structured class-roles although they arguably were socialist within some metrics, due to the fact the upper-classes understood the need for the lower-classes to exist with their needs adhered to & taken care of, with the leading monarch or church often intervening to keep the rule of local leaders or merchants under some kind of system which worked effectively for the collective good. Similarly, guild systems also existed as a manner of individuals whom needed their needs met or voices heard to accommodate for what they saw as most pragmatic: Again, these followed some natural state which allowed for those whom are most suited for a role to take it.

From my reading of many earlier European societies, mainly Germanic ones, it appears as if they all adhered to patterns similar to this. Functioning purely on a pragmatic scale, whilst also seemingly holding some degree of adherence to the natural state & peoples inherent capabilities.

Now when we fast-forward a bit, we see many new ideologies emerge towards that of the reaction to changing circumstances: For example, National Socialism rose as a reaction to not only the lose & consequences of it Germany experienced after WW1, but also the rising Red tide which already had ascertained control over Russia & was attempting to subvert various nation-states globally. In essence, there was no "National Socialism" but merely just "National Socialists" who stood as some kind of pragmatic reaction towards that of both Judeo-Bolshevism & Liberal Democracy, which regardless of who was behind them effectively represented the two "sides of the same coin" so to speak, due to preaching a false notion of egalitarianism.

Everyone who adheres to a central ideology -even if it technically doesn't exist or its adherents know it's kind of bullshit- do so under the pretext of either self-preservation, or self-gain.
Yes, Carl Schmitt said it best in The Concept of the Political:
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Man is a political animal precisely because politics is a way of exercising sovereignty, i.e. power over society. It is in man's nature to come into conflict with those who are different from himself, and so communities of similar individuals are formed. Man distinguishes between friend (a member of his community or tribe) and enemy (the other) out of pure pragmatism and self-interest in order to achieve his goal of domination.
 
Hitler's National Socialism is the best example of this. Germany was dying before he took over.
Fun fact did you know homelessness was at a all time low when Hitler ruled Germany
 
Fun fact did you know homelessness was at a all time low when Hitler ruled Germany
Can you share anything on this? I already know it would be, but it would be nice to see an actual stat of sorts
 
For an ideology to actually somewhat manifest itself, it requires for a collection of like-minded & characteristically alike individuals to coalesce into some kind of much more larger collective mentality, it requires for some kind of changes to occur within society.

Now to clarify something, everyone who is an adherent to the specific ideology circles it similar to how planets circle a star: You will have those in a very adjacent position with a close proximity, and those whom exist more on the periphery.

In order for these variables to actually coalesce into something greater, it requires for some kind of greater force of nature -such as a societal-civilizational shift- to occur in which the populace are no longer living in comfort & see some kind of threat to their way of life occur: Ideologies also tend to correlate with certain traits, being that of IQ, cognitive ability, religious values, social-class, race, etc.

Essentially, all ideologies exist as is just an accumulation of that: Individuals with various aligned traits & variables whom have been shifted to orbit an ideology -be it in an adjacent position or peripheral one- in order to justify some end-goal & collective accumulation of a desired outcome, albeit in perhaps differing interpretations, yet the core collective thought remains the same. There is no "Left versus Right," but rather "Leftists vs Rightists" whom adhere to a much more broader worldview which manifested itself through their various accumulations of similar traits & for similar needs to be met.

Essentially, everything is rooted in the ideal of Pragmatism, which I attribute virtually all of my worldviews towards, since it is innately American in origins & more characteristically aligned with us:



The reason as to why this mentality evolved early on within the United States, was due to the sheer need for it early on: Most early settlers, colonists, etc. such as my ancestors would have needed a mentality similar to this in order to survive, due to the unfamiliarity of the new continent & conflict with Natives, Outlaws, and the such.

However, it of course stems from that of the mentality which many in Europe have, due to the sheer climate & environment of it being one which requires for longer-term planning which thus amounts to adhering to whatever stems from the most efficient & favorable outcomes.

For example, most of humanity existed within the natural state up until the Industrial Revolution: Every civilization which existed up until this point effectively adhered to this, since it had structured class-roles although they arguably were socialist within some metrics, due to the fact the upper-classes understood the need for the lower-classes to exist with their needs adhered to & taken care of, with the leading monarch or church often intervening to keep the rule of local leaders or merchants under some kind of system which worked effectively for the collective good. Similarly, guild systems also existed as a manner of individuals whom needed their needs met or voices heard to accommodate for what they saw as most pragmatic: Again, these followed some natural state which allowed for those whom are most suited for a role to take it.

From my reading of many earlier European societies, mainly Germanic ones, it appears as if they all adhered to patterns similar to this. Functioning purely on a pragmatic scale, whilst also seemingly holding some degree of adherence to the natural state & peoples inherent capabilities.

Now when we fast-forward a bit, we see many new ideologies emerge towards that of the reaction to changing circumstances: For example, National Socialism rose as a reaction to not only the lose & consequences of it Germany experienced after WW1, but also the rising Red tide which already had ascertained control over Russia & was attempting to subvert various nation-states globally. In essence, there was no "National Socialism" but merely just "National Socialists" who stood as some kind of pragmatic reaction towards that of both Judeo-Bolshevism & Liberal Democracy, which regardless of who was behind them effectively represented the two "sides of the same coin" so to speak, due to preaching a false notion of egalitarianism.

Everyone who adheres to a central ideology -even if it technically doesn't exist or its adherents know it's kind of bullshit- do so under the pretext of either self-preservation, or self-gain.
Very good analysis:bigbrain::bigbrain:.
 
Good thread. To summarize from a different vantage point, ideologies are consistent with the causal environments that gave rise to their adherents. This has some relation to The Incelopomorphic Principle I have alluded to in another thread.
 
For an ideology to actually somewhat manifest itself, it requires for a collection of like-minded & characteristically alike individuals to coalesce into some kind of much more larger collective mentality, it requires for some kind of changes to occur within society.

Now to clarify something, everyone who is an adherent to the specific ideology circles it similar to how planets circle a star: You will have those in a very adjacent position with a close proximity, and those whom exist more on the periphery.

In order for these variables to actually coalesce into something greater, it requires for some kind of greater force of nature -such as a societal-civilizational shift- to occur in which the populace are no longer living in comfort & see some kind of threat to their way of life occur: Ideologies also tend to correlate with certain traits, being that of IQ, cognitive ability, religious values, social-class, race, etc.

Essentially, all ideologies exist as is just an accumulation of that: Individuals with various aligned traits & variables whom have been shifted to orbit an ideology -be it in an adjacent position or peripheral one- in order to justify some end-goal & collective accumulation of a desired outcome, albeit in perhaps differing interpretations, yet the core collective thought remains the same. There is no "Left versus Right," but rather "Leftists vs Rightists" whom adhere to a much more broader worldview which manifested itself through their various accumulations of similar traits & for similar needs to be met.

Essentially, everything is rooted in the ideal of Pragmatism, which I attribute virtually all of my worldviews towards, since it is innately American in origins & more characteristically aligned with us:



The reason as to why this mentality evolved early on within the United States, was due to the sheer need for it early on: Most early settlers, colonists, etc. such as my ancestors would have needed a mentality similar to this in order to survive, due to the unfamiliarity of the new continent & conflict with Natives, Outlaws, and the such.

However, it of course stems from that of the mentality which many in Europe have, due to the sheer climate & environment of it being one which requires for longer-term planning which thus amounts to adhering to whatever stems from the most efficient & favorable outcomes.

For example, most of humanity existed within the natural state up until the Industrial Revolution: Every civilization which existed up until this point effectively adhered to this, since it had structured class-roles although they arguably were socialist within some metrics, due to the fact the upper-classes understood the need for the lower-classes to exist with their needs adhered to & taken care of, with the leading monarch or church often intervening to keep the rule of local leaders or merchants under some kind of system which worked effectively for the collective good. Similarly, guild systems also existed as a manner of individuals whom needed their needs met or voices heard to accommodate for what they saw as most pragmatic: Again, these followed some natural state which allowed for those whom are most suited for a role to take it.

From my reading of many earlier European societies, mainly Germanic ones, it appears as if they all adhered to patterns similar to this. Functioning purely on a pragmatic scale, whilst also seemingly holding some degree of adherence to the natural state & peoples inherent capabilities.

Now when we fast-forward a bit, we see many new ideologies emerge towards that of the reaction to changing circumstances: For example, National Socialism rose as a reaction to not only the lose & consequences of it Germany experienced after WW1, but also the rising Red tide which already had ascertained control over Russia & was attempting to subvert various nation-states globally. In essence, there was no "National Socialism" but merely just "National Socialists" who stood as some kind of pragmatic reaction towards that of both Judeo-Bolshevism & Liberal Democracy, which regardless of who was behind them effectively represented the two "sides of the same coin" so to speak, due to preaching a false notion of egalitarianism.

Everyone who adheres to a central ideology -even if it technically doesn't exist or its adherents know it's kind of bullshit- do so under the pretext of either self-preservation, or self-gain.
The time of ideologies has passed. Most people are politically passive because they have the means to cope with a miserable life - alcohol, pornography, fast food, drugs, religion, antidepressants. Most of the developed societies and countries are damn old - even in the United States, the average American is 40 years old, and this figure will continue to grow due to the low birth rate. People are disconnected - no one interacts with anyone, even if people had a goal to unite for the sake of survival, they would not be able to do this due to lack of trust. Most ideologies are dead today - none of them is capable of fighting either the left or the right radicals. That the left and the right oppositionists are not capable of armed struggle against governments that are no different from each other, despite the elections. I do not believe in the sovereignty of states after 1991, everything is ruled by corporations and a group of elites, whose speaker is Klaus Schwab.
Whoever you would vote for - the rich will be rich, the poor will be poor, and the middle class will die every year, prices for goods and services are rising, the cost of living is growing. Even inceldom is a side effect of neoliberalism - when a large part of people became superfluous after the globalization of trade markets, the English and American working class died as such. Today, even the classical proletariat is not enough - when a person works in one factory all his life.
 
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The only conflict that exists today is the conflict between the poor and the rich - the rest is just a prop of the type of "right" and the type of "left" both sides, which receive money from the rich and leave the status quo. The rich do not want to part with money or even share it with commoners, so migrants are being imported to the west, as it is cheaper to maintain demographics than to invest money in affordable housing and other benefits that would allow the population to give birth more. Social elevators have collapsed for the most part, higher education and college do not provide anything due to the increase in higher education recipients, it has devalued and most graduates will never find a job, since the world does not need so many lawyers or sociologists. If earlier in the USA higher education was a pass to the elite, today it gives little. The world is ruled by the same group of rich Jews, and the world governments are their puppets. Klaus Schwab can equally invite Putin, Trump, Charles 3 to his WEF.
 

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